The Top 100 Animated Series: The 15th Anniversary Ultimate Wrap Up!

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It’s time. The countdown begins. Hello and welcome

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to the Geekcast Radio Network’s Top 100 Animated

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Series 15th Anniversary 2026 Edition Rap Party.

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That’s right, folks. We’re rapping dragons over

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here. All the numbers have been counted and recounted

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for you Florida people. And then we revealed

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them. Now we are closing down the Top 100 shop

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until the next time. But first, I’m of course

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TF2 and Mike. Joining me is Steve Megatron. Hello.

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And Optimus Solo. Hello. I had to just copy Steve.

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Yeah. Well, it is late at night. So cleverness

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is usually a daytime thing around here. Sometimes

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we’re all tired and whatever. And, oh, boy, is

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this been a slobber knocker? And I’m glad we’re

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shutting down the top 100 shop until summer of

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2027 at this point. We need to get our energy

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back, folks. Yikes. I feel like a zero at this

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point. No more heroics for us. Oh, boy. We’ve

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done nine top 100 countdowns in 15 years for

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a grand total, estimated grand total at this

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point. This is everything, guys. This is including

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the nominees for the lead up to this and including

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up to… the top 50 to 26 and the estimated total

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recorded and published time of the top 25 episode,

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171 hours, zero minutes and 52 seconds of published

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audio content. That is not including the thousands

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of hours we’ve put into the work of these nine.

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Top 100 countdowns in the last 15 years. Thousands

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of hours of work. I’ll have my my time card later.

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Yeah, I for some reason feel like this is that

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scene from Deadpool versus, you know, Deadpool

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and Wolverine where he says until he’s 90. Uh

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huh. Uh huh. That’s right. Uh huh. But for now,

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we plan and plot. Obviously, we’re never going

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to get caught. So take it away, Optimus Solo,

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and give the people, as well as us, a little

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quote -unquote wrap on the wrap -up of the 2026

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edition, a .k .a. the 15th anniversary version

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of the Geekcast Radio Network’s Top 100 Animated

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Series Countdown. I’m glad this is the last episode.

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I have to say any of that. I was going to say,

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I was hoping that was the last time you were

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going to say that at all. I’m going to spend

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two comments first. I feel like maybe 171 hours

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was spent just on this top 100 countdown, but

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maybe I’m incorrect on that. It just feels that

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way. And also, it’s going to take me 171 hours

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to understand everything you just said and whatever

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you were trying to reference and whatever jokes

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you were trying to make. So I’ll need the cliff

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notes or the like the, you know, when you watch

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a movie and you don’t understand it, you got

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to go to the interwebs and get like somebody

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else to explain it for you. I’m going to need

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someone else to explain that whole intro to me

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later. live in florida how do you not understand

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counted and recounted it’s election that was

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the only one i understood i don’t know what the

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we plan we plot we never get caught i don’t know

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what the rap is i’m old i don’t get these things

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mike i’m old how do you not understand rap are

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you talking about like rap music yes man man

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i thought we were talking about cartoons Oh,

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my God. Anyway, I am your master of the ceremonies

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for tonight. We’re going to now that we’ve done

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all of the work of revealing the 100 through

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one picks. Obviously, when we do that, they tend

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to be a lengthy conversations and records. So

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once we get to our number one, we generally don’t

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have a whole lot of time to dissect it, to react

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to it, to give you our overall thoughts on everything

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that has transpired. So we like to do that in

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a separate episode. That’s why we’re here tonight.

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So we can kind of give you all of the final thoughts,

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questions, concerns, verdicts on what we have

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compiled here as our new version of the top 100

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animated series countdown. So we’re going to

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do that in a number of different ways here. First,

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we’re going to give Steve, Mike and myself each

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a chance to look at the countdown and decide

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if there was any entries that we would personally

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boot out of the top 100 countdown. If we think

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that there’s any that maybe weren’t worthy, we’re

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going to boot those out because we need to make

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space for maybe some shows that were on our personal

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list or just general shows that we thought of

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that we think should have made it. So you can’t

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add stuff to it without taking stuff away. So

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that’s how that’s going to work. And we’re going

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to get into a quick conversation of some things

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we think were overall way too high or way too

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low that got revealed. Then I’m going to reveal

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in the… pre -episode or the the lead up to

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the reveals we talked about the 101 through 110

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we’re going to give you 111 through about 125

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just real quickly just so you kind of know those

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and then if steve or mike have any that were

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on the ballot that they’re curious where they

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landed we’ll let them ask those questions as

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well since as mike has said about 100 times during

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this countdown this is the 15th anniversary edition

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we’re going to look back at that list 15 years

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ago and compare Now that we’ve seen both of them

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fully, what differences there were between the

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two lists and kind of give some thoughts on that.

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I have some final stats as far as what decade

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reigns supreme, what production company, what

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channel, all of those types of things. So we’ll

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go through some of the numbers. And then in the

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wrap of the wrap, with our both spelled WRAP,

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by the way, we will talk about our final thoughts

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overall on the list, what we felt worked. Um,

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and some, I have some prompts for the guys that

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I’m interested, just kind of see there as well

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as my closing thoughts on how I think this was

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either a success or not a success and, and how

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it may shape how we do top 100 list moving forward.

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Uh, Mike, any questions or comments before we

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get started? I think so. Steve, anything we,

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you want to clarify before I get into it? Uh,

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nope. All right. So we’re going to start with

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shows. we’re booting out of the top 100 we just

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revealed them they just got in the top 100 and

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we’re wasting no time and trying to kick them

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right back out so i’m gonna be interested to

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see from the panel if there’s any that you guys

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feel should not be a part of the list i have

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a few that i would probably boot out i think

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maybe about five that i’m going to give the axe

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to which i think coincides nicely because i I

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may be trying to squeeze more and then I’m kicking

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out. So I might have to make some tough decisions,

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but let’s start with Steve. Is there anything

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that we revealed in the top 100 that you felt

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like, not necessarily that it didn’t deserve

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it, but that you thought maybe something else

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deserved it more. So something that you would

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be willing to move outside to make room for something

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else. So I actually had a list of five that I

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would have removed. My list consisted of, in

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no particular order, Rocko’s Modern Life, The

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Legend of Korra, Speed Racer, the Tartakovsky

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Clone Wars, and X -Men 97. Very good. Any that

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you want to highlight as far as ones that you’re

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most passionate about? About removing? Yeah.

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Or do you think they’re all equal footing as

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far as they all are about the same level? Yeah,

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I mean, honestly, like I think Legend of Korra

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would be one of the number ones I would remove

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just because even from my kids standpoint, like

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there’s not a great love for that series from

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what I’ve heard from a lot of people. Not to

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mention. X -Men 97, I would only boot because

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technically it’s a continuation, but it also

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it we’re still waiting on season two at the time

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of this. this countdown uh i know season two

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is coming i first baby yeah uh and then the tartakovsky

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clone wars i would remove just because we got

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a superior one that came later uh so i mean those

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three are kind of like the main one speed racer

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i feel like it’s kind of a i get what it’s going

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for but i don’t i don’t have a deep appreciation

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or love for it i found it kind of more like the

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the show that i would find at night when I was

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younger to go to sleep. And because it was boring

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to me. And then Rocco’s Modern Life. I’m not

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a huge Nickelodeon fan. I did watch it as a kid,

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but I never loved the show. Like I would have

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rather watched like Angry Beavers or something

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else like or, you know, one of those shows rather

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than this. To me, they’re kind of all on equal

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ground. I prefer out of this list X -Men 97.

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If any of the five would have stayed, that would

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have been it just for the sake of I enjoyed it

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overall, but it also has only had one season.

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And so I felt like it kind of got in by proxy

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of the original show, not necessarily based on

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its own merits yet. Yeah, definitely something

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we debated back and forth a little bit heading

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into this. Yeah, for sure. Those five are pretty

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much my kind of staples of what I would have

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removed. Totally get it. Makes perfect sense.

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I think I’m going to let Mike go next on any

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that you would boot out, Mike. Not what you’re

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adding in, just what you’re taking away. Yeah,

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no, I know. I understand. I understand the task.

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I agree with Steve. Like, I don’t understand.

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I understand why we separated them because X

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-Men 97, even though it is a continuation of

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X -Men, the animated series, it was still marketed

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as its own separate thing. It was so far removed

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in time, obviously from when the original series

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was released and everything else and yada, yada,

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yada, but it’s only got one season. How can you

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like we’ve. already talked about this to death

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top 100 series were top 100 list worthy you have

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to have more than what you can’t just be like

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no one’s putting stripperella on here stripperella

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only had one season it was okay wasn’t great

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but you know you know like you can’t just know

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so i would take as much as i enjoy it i would

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take x -men 97 off I would take Beavis and Butthead

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off. I would take Ren and Stimpy off. This is

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just my bias. This is just me. I don’t like those.

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Beavis and Butthead was okay, but it wasn’t my

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style. Ren and Stimpy, I don’t like Ren and Stimpy.

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It’s just, and I’m specifically, the reason why

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I don’t like Ren and Stimpy is when they got

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to the gross humor. The more… actual funny

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part of the humor i’m okay with but when they

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started just doing the gross out humor i don’t

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like that show speed racer i never watched it

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i and the fact that anyone can fall asleep like

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i never watched it when back when when i was

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a kid is what i mean when i was trying to watch

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it to do research for this I don’t know how you

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fell asleep to this, Steve. Like people tell

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me, I don’t know how you fall asleep to forensic

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files. I’m like, listen to Peter Thomas’s voice

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for more than five minutes. You’ll fall asleep

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immediately, even though he’s talking about murder.

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Like just the man’s voice is amazing. But anyway,

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the only other thing that I probably would remove

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that I don’t think belongs on here. There was

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one that was too high that I thought was too

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high. No, I think that’s it. i think it’s just

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those i’m i’m re -looking through because well

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because as we were doing the countdown i was

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i i have the whole countdown list here so as

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we were doing it i was writing them all down

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so i’m looking through it and i’m like no okay

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well that’s it all i got what do you got kev

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well so when i was looking at mine it was uh

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as far as which ones remove i’m trying to balance

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a little bit like some of it’s going to be biased

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as far as which ones i want to put in but when

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it when it’s Trying to decide what to remove

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and what to put in. I’m trying to think of what

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makes it more of a consensus list and what makes

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it a better list overall. Trying to remove as

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much as I can of some of my personal biases.

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But there is a couple changes that I would make.

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Now, I’m a little bit more extensive because

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I’m like that, I guess. But I have 10, but I’ll

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go through them fairly quickly because some of

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them have already been mentioned. So I would

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also delete Legend of Korra, like you guys said.

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I would probably delete Rocco’s Modern Life,

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like you guys said, and Star Wars, the Clone

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Wars, the Tartagoski one, just because it’s not

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my style. And I think we already have Rebels

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and we already have the Clone Wars. So I feel

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like the Star Wars is well represented, as is

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with a couple entries in the top 100. There’s

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a few others that I would kind of ping along

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that same line here. I think just like we had

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enough Star Wars, and I know personally, I would

00:14:39.480 –> 00:14:42.259
probably have these on my own list. because i’m

00:14:42.259 –> 00:14:44.600
a huge transformers fan but i think we have g1

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and we have beast wars i may squeeze out beast

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machines and transformers prime just to add a

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little diversity into some that i feel like we’re

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missing so i’m gonna it’ll make more sense when

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i go to the ones i’m gonna add but i think out

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of reboots and spinoffs and stuff like that we

00:15:04.059 –> 00:15:05.980
could remove a couple of the transformers ones

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and get a couple different spinoff reboots in

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that i’ll highlight in a second I also think

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there’s a couple classic shows that we were missing

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that I would substitute in for the likes of Underdog.

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And I know, Mike, you like the show and I do

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too, but I would actually take Wacky Races and

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Underdog out. And I have a couple other classic

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shows that I think are more worthy of those two.

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So I would change that as well. And then I’m

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kind of on the fence between Invader Zim, Recess,

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and the Super Mario Bros. Super Show. I’m still

00:15:40.649 –> 00:15:42.950
debating on those three, but those are ones that

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I would have to do some thought and really think

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of those compared to some of these ones that

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I’m trying to squeeze in. So transitioning somewhat

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because it fits this conversation into what I

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would squeeze in. So I talked about the classics

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and taking underdog and wacky races out. And

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I know this is more the historian in me and more

00:16:01.289 –> 00:16:04.009
kind of the old school person in me, but I would

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like Mighty Mouse to be involved somewhere in

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the top 100. For me, some form of Mighty Mouse,

00:16:10.659 –> 00:16:12.519
whether it might be Mighty Mouse Playhouse or

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something like that, I would think would be able

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to take one of those spots. And then I think

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another one that I would put in that would both

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be a classic and also speak to another thing

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that maybe was a little underrepresented in our

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list would be Astro Boy. So I feel like the combination

00:16:30.500 –> 00:16:34.000
of Speed Racer and Astro Boy and a couple of

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those classic anime shows could do well. When

00:16:38.379 –> 00:16:40.519
it comes to the spin -offs and things of that

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nature, reboots, the reason I would take Transformers

00:16:42.919 –> 00:16:45.679
Prime and Beast Machines out, even though originally

00:16:45.679 –> 00:16:48.399
I enjoyed Beast Machines more than any other

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Transformers series outside of G1 for a long

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time. Beast Wars has surpassed that in future

00:16:54.580 –> 00:16:57.940
viewings. But I would take those out and I would

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actually make room for a couple other reboots

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that I think deserve it. So I have four that

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I think deserve. some attention and that would

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be scooby -doo mystery inc which we talked about

00:17:12.369 –> 00:17:15.130
a little bit when we did the the reveal of the

00:17:15.130 –> 00:17:16.890
regular original scooby -doo i think mystery

00:17:16.890 –> 00:17:18.589
inc is worthy of being in the in the conversation

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i would consider the 2003 turtles uh series to

00:17:23.809 –> 00:17:26.190
to be put in there there’s you could also go

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with you know one of the future ones as well

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but i think 2003 turtles is a good good one there

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i know it got cut short but i would at least

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like to talk about masters of the universe 2002

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he made 2002 i think that’s that’s worthy and

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then one that i’m surprised didn’t make it i

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guess it just didn’t have enough love from our

00:17:42.549 –> 00:17:45.990
specific group of 44 folks but i have a feeling

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if we had a different group maybe it would i’m

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surprised my little pony friendship as magic

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didn’t at least crack it now i know there’s different

00:17:54.569 –> 00:17:56.890
feelings or opinions about the show but i don’t

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think anyone can deny how much of a impact it

00:18:00.339 –> 00:18:03.440
had for a specific part of the culture and like

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there was a show that was more popular than it

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during its time and it has produced a lot of

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spinoffs and things of that nature as well so

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i would try to make room for that as far as a

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couple other ones i think from an anime standpoint

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we could probably add in uh neon genesis evangelion

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i think that was perhaps a miss It just missed

00:18:27.609 –> 00:18:30.130
it, though, right? Yeah, it just missed it. It

00:18:30.130 –> 00:18:33.210
was 107. And then the other one that I think

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would serve another portion of the anime fandom

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population would be some representation from

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a Mobile Suit Gundam or something of that nature.

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I think that could be worthy. The only other

00:18:45.910 –> 00:18:51.069
one I had on my list was Bojack Horseman, which

00:18:51.069 –> 00:18:52.730
just missed it. I feel like that probably was

00:18:52.730 –> 00:18:54.690
deserving of being in there. It landed at the

00:18:54.690 –> 00:18:57.460
104th spot. And then I will agree with Dan from

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last week. I would probably make way for Bluey

00:19:00.180 –> 00:19:02.859
to be in there somewhere, which was 105. So I

00:19:02.859 –> 00:19:04.319
know a couple of those just missed with Bojack

00:19:04.319 –> 00:19:07.819
Horseman, Bluey, and Evangelion. But I think

00:19:07.819 –> 00:19:12.839
when I compare those to like, I don’t know, Invader

00:19:12.839 –> 00:19:15.200
Zim or Rocko’s Modern Life or The Legend of Korra

00:19:15.200 –> 00:19:17.839
or Underdog, like I feel like they’re probably

00:19:17.839 –> 00:19:21.400
a little bit more worthy. What about you, Mike?

00:19:21.460 –> 00:19:23.460
We’ll go in reverse order. So anything that you

00:19:23.460 –> 00:19:27.920
would add in that didn’t make it? Well, now that

00:19:27.920 –> 00:19:32.059
you’re saying all this, I would put He -Man 2002.

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I would put Turtles 2003. I would actually put

00:19:43.740 –> 00:19:46.259
My Little Pony Friendship is Magic, because like

00:19:46.259 –> 00:19:52.380
you’re saying, not only for the fact of the giant…

00:19:52.890 –> 00:19:56.950
fandom that it had it was a really good show

00:19:56.950 –> 00:20:01.269
it really really like i watched like maybe half

00:20:01.269 –> 00:20:06.470
of the first season and just was really really

00:20:06.470 –> 00:20:12.390
good i’m trying to think oh for the for me when

00:20:12.390 –> 00:20:16.910
it comes to anime there’s one show and really

00:20:16.910 –> 00:20:20.130
there’s only one show that i’ve ever fully gotten

00:20:20.130 –> 00:20:24.190
into That’s Yu -Gi -Oh! Dual Monsters. It’s the

00:20:24.190 –> 00:20:28.009
one with Yugi and Kaiba and Joey and Blue Eyes

00:20:28.009 –> 00:20:30.769
White Dragon and Red Eyes Black Dragon. It’s

00:20:30.769 –> 00:20:34.809
the famous one from 2000 with the cards and Grandpa

00:20:34.809 –> 00:20:36.910
and this and that and the other thing and everything

00:20:36.910 –> 00:20:41.529
else. I would put that in as my anime choice.

00:20:42.450 –> 00:20:47.349
Anything else that you would add in? Steve, anything

00:20:47.349 –> 00:20:54.500
you’re putting in that missed? So. It’s funny

00:20:54.500 –> 00:20:59.259
because I have like more than what. Than what,

00:20:59.319 –> 00:21:07.519
you know, we have. Yeah. There were. And I agree

00:21:07.519 –> 00:21:09.880
with like Mario and, you know, some of those

00:21:09.880 –> 00:21:12.720
other ones removing them in favor of others.

00:21:13.960 –> 00:21:17.460
Some that like a couple that were in the last.

00:21:18.200 –> 00:21:21.880
Top 100 like Slaughter Deathmatch, Mighty Max,

00:21:22.259 –> 00:21:28.299
Pirates of Dark Water, Hong Kong Fui didn’t make

00:21:28.299 –> 00:21:31.440
this one. So some of these like I do think the

00:21:31.440 –> 00:21:34.440
2003 Turtles definitely should have made it Neon

00:21:34.440 –> 00:21:38.200
Genesis or at least definitely Mobile Suit Gundam

00:21:38.200 –> 00:21:43.019
of some force just because. It kind of lived

00:21:43.019 –> 00:21:48.480
in tandem with Dragon Ball Z on Toonami. Because

00:21:48.480 –> 00:21:51.940
I remember Peter Cullen doing the announcement

00:21:51.940 –> 00:21:58.099
for it. I would almost argue like Naruto or Inuyasha

00:21:58.099 –> 00:22:02.759
being on there. Because again, those were ones

00:22:02.759 –> 00:22:05.680
that were kind of played in the Konami run as

00:22:05.680 –> 00:22:10.660
well. And those have pretty decent followings.

00:22:13.160 –> 00:22:19.549
I think for… a difference of shows star trek

00:22:19.549 –> 00:22:23.549
lower decks yes could have been in there because

00:22:23.549 –> 00:22:26.190
it was star trek it stayed true to the canon

00:22:26.190 –> 00:22:28.549
but it also was a comedy and it was kind of like

00:22:28.549 –> 00:22:31.690
if you like and this is this is what i’ve heard

00:22:31.690 –> 00:22:34.130
from people is if you like rick and morty you’ll

00:22:34.130 –> 00:22:38.470
like lower decks because there’s a very similar

00:22:38.470 –> 00:22:42.640
like humor to it right in animation style I’m

00:22:42.640 –> 00:22:45.259
not like the biggest fan of the animation, but

00:22:45.259 –> 00:22:47.940
at the same time, I was able to overlook it because

00:22:47.940 –> 00:22:53.960
the story was interesting. And so. Plus, it’s

00:22:53.960 –> 00:22:58.299
Star Trek, so I was going to tune in. So, I mean,

00:22:58.319 –> 00:23:01.880
I think those shows I would definitely have in

00:23:01.880 –> 00:23:05.059
there. Some I’m kind of on the fence about, like

00:23:05.059 –> 00:23:10.509
a celebrity death match or. like hong kong phooey

00:23:10.509 –> 00:23:12.309
or pup named scooby -doo or things like that

00:23:12.309 –> 00:23:17.089
just because while i remember them more recent

00:23:17.089 –> 00:23:18.910
generations aren’t going to have a clue and there’s

00:23:18.910 –> 00:23:21.710
been no continuation or revival or reboot or

00:23:21.710 –> 00:23:26.390
anything to keep that title going so right i

00:23:26.390 –> 00:23:28.670
think the the few that i did mention though would

00:23:28.670 –> 00:23:32.309
would kind of fit still with replacing what i

00:23:32.309 –> 00:23:34.890
mentioned yeah i don’t necessarily specifically

00:23:34.890 –> 00:23:38.109
what pup named scooby -doo i don’t think necessarily

00:23:38.109 –> 00:23:41.549
there needs to be something to keep that going

00:23:41.549 –> 00:23:45.430
i think that was specifically a series of its

00:23:45.430 –> 00:23:48.869
time like if you want to do that again for a

00:23:48.869 –> 00:23:54.670
new generation that is not that style like not

00:23:54.670 –> 00:23:57.109
that and like if you want to do that like a new

00:23:57.109 –> 00:24:00.130
version of that that’s fine but i don’t think

00:24:00.130 –> 00:24:03.650
they’re gonna do a continuation of that x number

00:24:03.650 –> 00:24:08.099
of decades later like Oh God, we’re almost coming.

00:24:08.259 –> 00:24:10.920
Oh God, we’re two years away from the 40th anniversary

00:24:10.920 –> 00:24:15.759
of the show. Oh God, I’m so old. Oh God. So when

00:24:15.759 –> 00:24:18.240
it comes to things that we would rank lower or

00:24:18.240 –> 00:24:19.839
higher, I don’t know how you guys did this. The

00:24:19.839 –> 00:24:21.859
way I kind of looked at it was just the top 50

00:24:21.859 –> 00:24:24.599
versus bottom 50 and ones I would kind of make

00:24:24.599 –> 00:24:26.660
a move. Mostly that’s kind of how I looked at

00:24:26.660 –> 00:24:29.259
it. So I’ll start us off with this one. There

00:24:29.259 –> 00:24:32.039
was only two shows in the top 50 that I didn’t

00:24:32.039 –> 00:24:35.920
vote on specifically on my list. So I was. happy

00:24:35.920 –> 00:24:37.700
with you know all of them showing up and one

00:24:37.700 –> 00:24:39.200
of them was just a technicality i didn’t vote

00:24:39.200 –> 00:24:41.640
for justice league unlimited because i just voted

00:24:41.640 –> 00:24:44.180
for justice league instead um and then the only

00:24:44.180 –> 00:24:45.880
other one that i didn’t vote for was the tick

00:24:45.880 –> 00:24:48.640
so everything else in the top 50 i voted on but

00:24:48.640 –> 00:24:51.680
as far as just because i voted on doesn’t mean

00:24:51.680 –> 00:24:53.660
i would have the same top 50 so there’s some

00:24:53.660 –> 00:24:55.920
that i definitely would put in the top 50 that

00:24:55.920 –> 00:24:58.960
didn’t quite make it um so i’m going to go over

00:24:58.960 –> 00:25:00.720
those real quick first the ones that i think

00:25:00.720 –> 00:25:03.180
should have been a little bit higher and there’s

00:25:03.180 –> 00:25:06.339
going to be a theme here with my historic classic

00:25:06.339 –> 00:25:10.160
cartoon love so i guess you can prepare for that

00:25:10.160 –> 00:25:15.500
but there’s a there’s a quartet of shows that

00:25:15.500 –> 00:25:17.099
i would put in the top 50 that didn’t make it

00:25:17.099 –> 00:25:19.759
from the classic era so that would be the the

00:25:19.759 –> 00:25:22.740
woody woodpecker show the pink panther show the

00:25:22.740 –> 00:25:25.039
huckleberry hound show and popeye the sailor

00:25:25.039 –> 00:25:27.519
i would i would probably make a case for all

00:25:27.519 –> 00:25:29.480
four of those to be in the top 50 just from an

00:25:29.480 –> 00:25:33.819
important standpoint um they ended up at 60 72

00:25:33.819 –> 00:25:39.079
73 and 76 so almost all in the top 75 but i would

00:25:39.079 –> 00:25:41.160
make a case for those to be higher as far as

00:25:41.160 –> 00:25:44.119
other ones outside of that from a personal bias

00:25:44.119 –> 00:25:46.700
i guess i would have loved to see danger mouse

00:25:46.700 –> 00:25:51.500
crack the top 75 it landed at 93 so i would i

00:25:51.500 –> 00:25:53.740
would love to see that i thought dj made a pretty

00:25:53.740 –> 00:25:55.839
good case for robot chicken maybe being a little

00:25:55.839 –> 00:26:00.049
bit higher and then the only other one the only

00:26:00.049 –> 00:26:03.869
other two that i had that were well one on one

00:26:03.869 –> 00:26:05.269
on this side of 50 and one on the other star

00:26:05.269 –> 00:26:07.809
wars the clone wars at 52 i think that’s probably

00:26:07.809 –> 00:26:11.890
a top 50 worthy cartoon and then i could see

00:26:11.890 –> 00:26:14.089
even though i have never watched a single episode

00:26:14.089 –> 00:26:18.349
of it just from the reach that it has had and

00:26:18.349 –> 00:26:20.470
the staying power i could see a lot of people

00:26:20.470 –> 00:26:22.589
making the argument for spongebob being higher

00:26:22.589 –> 00:26:26.109
than 42 being maybe somewhere in the top 30 top

00:26:26.109 –> 00:26:29.019
25 and things like that and then Even though

00:26:29.019 –> 00:26:31.880
they were 34 and 35, I would make a case for

00:26:31.880 –> 00:26:33.680
the Tom and Jerry show and the Yogi Bear show

00:26:33.680 –> 00:26:36.200
to both be a little bit higher as well. So a

00:26:36.200 –> 00:26:38.519
lot of classic love that I’m trying to show out,

00:26:38.579 –> 00:26:41.180
I guess, for those. But go to you, Steve. Next,

00:26:41.299 –> 00:26:43.119
anything that you felt like, you know, that we

00:26:43.119 –> 00:26:44.839
talked about maybe in those first two episodes

00:26:44.839 –> 00:26:46.619
that you were hoping would have stuck around

00:26:46.619 –> 00:26:50.519
until the final two episodes. So in the first

00:26:50.519 –> 00:27:05.240
two. I felt like a lot of them. I wasn’t decided

00:27:05.240 –> 00:27:08.759
in either direction on some of them. However,

00:27:09.599 –> 00:27:12.019
that being said, I feel like Dragon Ball probably

00:27:12.019 –> 00:27:13.640
should have gotten a little bit higher just because

00:27:13.640 –> 00:27:15.480
I know Dragon Ball Z put everything into the

00:27:15.480 –> 00:27:17.779
mainstream, but Dragon Ball kind of lit the fire

00:27:17.779 –> 00:27:19.819
that everything else kind of copied from there.

00:27:21.099 –> 00:27:28.680
I would almost argue… I would have liked to

00:27:28.680 –> 00:27:30.559
have seen like Freakazoid a little bit higher

00:27:30.559 –> 00:27:37.539
or, you know, Robot Chicken, Beast Machines.

00:27:39.859 –> 00:27:42.279
I’m not like the biggest fan of like Pokemon

00:27:42.279 –> 00:27:45.900
nowadays, but I could see that being a little

00:27:45.900 –> 00:27:47.900
bit higher just because it’s the longevity of

00:27:47.900 –> 00:27:55.039
it. There’s a number of other shows I probably

00:27:55.039 –> 00:27:58.799
would have moved. a lot farther down the list.

00:28:00.559 –> 00:28:04.059
Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, but I mean, as far as

00:28:04.059 –> 00:28:07.900
the first, the first 50, like that’s, that’s

00:28:07.900 –> 00:28:11.079
kind of the shows I would pick. Okay. Any in

00:28:11.079 –> 00:28:13.539
that second group of 50 that did make it to the

00:28:13.539 –> 00:28:15.059
top 50, but you would have preferred that they

00:28:15.059 –> 00:28:18.000
were closer to, you know, maybe the top 20, top

00:28:18.000 –> 00:28:22.890
15, top 25, something like that. out of any of

00:28:22.890 –> 00:28:25.190
the numbers or just yeah just anything you know

00:28:25.190 –> 00:28:26.549
maybe it was something that was like I don’t

00:28:26.549 –> 00:28:28.910
know 26 through 50 in that third episode that

00:28:28.910 –> 00:28:30.549
you would have preferred to be in the last episode

00:28:30.549 –> 00:28:32.569
or something along those lines that you just

00:28:32.569 –> 00:28:35.349
thought was more top 10 top 20 worthy that didn’t

00:28:35.349 –> 00:28:40.470
quite make it I would argue I would almost argue

00:28:40.470 –> 00:28:42.470
like Phineas and Ferb should have been in there

00:28:42.470 –> 00:28:51.420
Spongebob just because the longevity of it I

00:28:51.420 –> 00:29:00.339
would argue like Batman Beyond. Yeah, I would

00:29:00.339 –> 00:29:02.680
have argued probably Superman, the animated series.

00:29:04.720 –> 00:29:07.720
I could see it. This landing with some people,

00:29:07.759 –> 00:29:14.519
maybe not me personally, but like Rugrats. Girls

00:29:14.519 –> 00:29:18.319
like I could see those landing. But yeah, I think

00:29:18.319 –> 00:29:20.579
that would be it as far as me for that. block

00:29:20.579 –> 00:29:24.119
between 25 and 50. Okay. Mike, what about you?

00:29:24.140 –> 00:29:25.799
Anything that you would like to slide up closer

00:29:25.799 –> 00:29:28.079
to the top half of the countdown or into the

00:29:28.079 –> 00:29:32.319
top 10, 20? Yeah. So there’s basically two shows

00:29:32.319 –> 00:29:36.440
from the bottom 50 that I want to be in, in the

00:29:36.440 –> 00:29:40.180
top 50, if not the top 25. And basically I’ve

00:29:40.180 –> 00:29:42.559
picked two numbers where I think they should

00:29:42.559 –> 00:29:45.700
go and where the shows that are in those current

00:29:45.700 –> 00:29:48.059
numbers that they should move to the other slots.

00:29:48.960 –> 00:29:52.660
So Ren and Stimpy gets kicked to 81, and Jem

00:29:52.660 –> 00:29:57.740
goes in the 36 slot. Okay. And Family Guy gets

00:29:57.740 –> 00:30:02.259
kicked to 65, and Kim Possible gets put in the

00:30:02.259 –> 00:30:10.000
32 slot. Jem is more of a… We’ve already talked

00:30:10.000 –> 00:30:15.059
about Jem. It was the 80s girl. I feel it’s not

00:30:15.059 –> 00:30:17.619
just a girls cartoon. It’s for everybody, boys

00:30:17.619 –> 00:30:20.980
and girls. But it was basically, hey, look, we

00:30:20.980 –> 00:30:24.640
can do anything. We’re the superstars. But it

00:30:24.640 –> 00:30:27.759
wasn’t just that. It was just really for anything.

00:30:27.900 –> 00:30:30.039
Same thing with Kim Possible. Her whole thing.

00:30:30.559 –> 00:30:34.579
I’m Kim Possible. I can do anything. And then

00:30:34.579 –> 00:30:36.960
on the flip side of that, her buddy Ron Stoppable,

00:30:37.039 –> 00:30:39.859
voiced by Will Friedle, a .k .a. Batman Beyond.

00:30:40.019 –> 00:30:45.440
I’m Ron Stoppable. I can’t do anything. I just

00:30:45.440 –> 00:30:50.460
can’t do anything. I love this show. This show’s

00:30:50.460 –> 00:30:55.839
amazing. It’s so fun. It’s so good. It’s just

00:30:55.839 –> 00:31:00.339
awesome. I feel like those two. entries should

00:31:00.339 –> 00:31:03.099
have been much much higher even though they’re

00:31:03.099 –> 00:31:09.500
not uh as far as other things like yeah i would

00:31:09.500 –> 00:31:12.720
have liked to see things higher batman beyond

00:31:12.720 –> 00:31:18.319
going from 16 in 2011 to 27 it kind of hurt but

00:31:18.319 –> 00:31:22.279
at least it’s still in the top half at least

00:31:22.279 –> 00:31:26.420
it’s it’s still in the top 50 if it had dropped

00:31:26.420 –> 00:31:30.519
any lower i might have had my batman beyond blood

00:31:30.519 –> 00:31:34.160
boiling a little bit more than what it was but

00:31:34.160 –> 00:31:38.960
again it’s an amazing show it is what it is i

00:31:38.960 –> 00:31:42.380
really can’t complain with what we’ve put together

00:31:42.380 –> 00:31:47.980
for the most part and what you know we’re always

00:31:47.980 –> 00:31:51.000
gonna have things that we want to see higher

00:31:52.079 –> 00:31:55.759
or lower or things move around or whatever phineas

00:31:55.759 –> 00:31:59.319
and ferb would i love to have seen it not be

00:31:59.319 –> 00:32:05.259
38 and maybe be 21 or or whatever and hey at

00:32:05.259 –> 00:32:07.420
least it made the countdown at least it wasn’t

00:32:07.420 –> 00:32:10.599
104 and didn’t make the countdown because you

00:32:10.599 –> 00:32:15.210
know 104 days of summer But it is what it is.

00:32:15.349 –> 00:32:18.069
I do have to put it on the record that I just

00:32:18.069 –> 00:32:20.710
so everyone’s clear. This is Optimus Solo speaking,

00:32:20.829 –> 00:32:24.170
and I do not support the hate for Ren and Stimpy

00:32:24.170 –> 00:32:26.509
or the Family Guy. So direct that message to

00:32:26.509 –> 00:32:31.970
TFG. I do not generally hate Family Guy. However,

00:32:34.650 –> 00:32:40.509
as I said, I don’t mind when Ren and Stimpy has.

00:32:41.529 –> 00:32:45.930
decent humor but i’m sorry i do not laugh at

00:32:45.930 –> 00:32:49.289
grossed out humor i puke at grossed out humor

00:32:49.289 –> 00:32:53.009
sorry that’s that’s just the way it is that show

00:32:53.009 –> 00:32:55.150
just making it clear to the listeners who to

00:32:55.150 –> 00:32:58.289
direct what opinions at towards you know as far

00:32:58.289 –> 00:33:00.650
as some some ones that i thought maybe were were

00:33:00.650 –> 00:33:03.109
too high i don’t have a lot i only really highlighted

00:33:03.109 –> 00:33:05.789
two on my kind of run through here i thought

00:33:05.789 –> 00:33:11.500
that rescue rangers at 15 was a little high for

00:33:11.500 –> 00:33:18.779
me i do like the new rangers is it was 100 or

00:33:18.779 –> 00:33:21.880
60 yeah uh 16 excuse me it lost the tie break

00:33:21.880 –> 00:33:25.019
um whatever it was tied with picking the brain

00:33:25.019 –> 00:33:27.380
uh before the record and i don’t i didn’t update

00:33:27.380 –> 00:33:30.680
my numbers after that rescue rangers just being

00:33:30.680 –> 00:33:33.279
in the top 20 to me i’d love the disney afternoon

00:33:33.279 –> 00:33:35.039
i probably wouldn’t have put it in the top 20

00:33:35.039 –> 00:33:37.119
so i would probably have moved that outside of

00:33:37.119 –> 00:33:40.319
the top 25 to make room for something else. And

00:33:40.319 –> 00:33:42.559
I’m a fan of Voltron, but I probably wouldn’t

00:33:42.559 –> 00:33:45.299
have put Voltron in the top 50. I just think

00:33:45.299 –> 00:33:47.259
there’s a couple other shows that I would have

00:33:47.259 –> 00:33:49.799
rather slid into the top 50, like the Clone Wars

00:33:49.799 –> 00:33:53.779
or one of those classics like Popeye or something

00:33:53.779 –> 00:33:56.359
of that nature instead. But those are about the

00:33:56.359 –> 00:33:58.779
only two I highlighted. Steve, anything that

00:33:58.779 –> 00:34:01.920
you would have lowered and then, and or anything,

00:34:02.180 –> 00:34:03.619
well, let’s start with that. Anything you would

00:34:03.619 –> 00:34:08.760
have lowered in the countdown? So lowering, I

00:34:08.760 –> 00:34:13.659
would have lowered Ren and Stimpy, Ghostbusters,

00:34:13.980 –> 00:34:17.400
Muppet Babies, Teen Titans, Gravity Falls, Adventure

00:34:17.400 –> 00:34:22.980
Time, Smurfs, and Thundercats. Everything he

00:34:22.980 –> 00:34:26.800
said except Thundercats. Which leads me to another

00:34:26.800 –> 00:34:29.159
question, and Steve can continue on some of his

00:34:29.159 –> 00:34:30.579
thoughts with those shows too, but I was also

00:34:30.579 –> 00:34:34.639
curious what some of your biggest surprise moments…

00:34:34.989 –> 00:34:39.369
in the countdown were so for me the fact that

00:34:39.369 –> 00:34:43.130
one of my overall biggest surprises was gi joe

00:34:43.130 –> 00:34:46.050
at number 28 and i bring that up because you

00:34:46.050 –> 00:34:49.250
said thundercats and i would have never put and

00:34:49.250 –> 00:34:50.869
i would have never thought thundercats would

00:34:50.869 –> 00:34:53.269
have beat out gi joe this time around yeah having

00:34:53.269 –> 00:34:55.849
gi joe at 28 and thundercats at 26 was probably

00:34:55.849 –> 00:34:58.670
for me one of the biggest surprises any steve

00:34:58.670 –> 00:34:59.789
i’ll let you comment on the ones you would have

00:34:59.789 –> 00:35:01.489
moved a little bit more or anything else that

00:35:01.489 –> 00:35:06.489
you were surprised by Honestly, I was super surprised

00:35:06.489 –> 00:35:14.630
that Thundercats beat out G .I. Joe, Inspector

00:35:14.630 –> 00:35:20.409
Gadget, Jetsons, and Batman Beyond. I would have

00:35:20.409 –> 00:35:28.130
put it in the 40s. I would not have… 40s or

00:35:28.130 –> 00:35:33.630
50s. Or at the very least, 50. I don’t think

00:35:33.630 –> 00:35:39.679
that it… has the longevity or the care that

00:35:39.679 –> 00:35:42.619
the rest of the shows do that actually preceded

00:35:42.619 –> 00:35:46.599
it and so i would have i would have moved that

00:35:46.599 –> 00:35:50.039
that one was kind of shocking to me uh i was

00:35:50.039 –> 00:35:54.980
shocked mostly about gi joe yeah um in that regard

00:35:54.980 –> 00:35:58.500
uh i was i was also kind of shocked that you

00:35:58.500 –> 00:36:01.019
know spongebob went where it went and although

00:36:01.019 –> 00:36:03.380
it kind of landed right where it did last time

00:36:05.039 –> 00:36:09.579
But seeing some of the flip -flops of numbers,

00:36:10.500 –> 00:36:16.099
Family Guy dropped, Beast Wars actually went

00:36:16.099 –> 00:36:19.019
up, which I was fearful it was going to drop

00:36:19.019 –> 00:36:22.300
farther. What do you think Family Guy dropped?

00:36:22.900 –> 00:36:29.360
It was 21st. I thought it was at 100 last time.

00:36:29.579 –> 00:36:35.010
You voted for it at 100. It was 21. Damn, your

00:36:35.010 –> 00:36:37.449
hate couldn’t overpower the panel last time.

00:36:37.769 –> 00:36:42.369
God damn it. Yeah, I mean, I was surprised that

00:36:42.369 –> 00:36:44.730
Dragon Ball even made it on the list. I was surprised

00:36:44.730 –> 00:36:52.469
that Dragon Ball Z went up 14. And there was

00:36:52.469 –> 00:36:54.750
a lot of numbers that did a lot of flip -flopping,

00:36:54.869 –> 00:36:56.949
and I was quite surprised the ones that did.

00:36:57.070 –> 00:37:00.889
And then, of course, I was ecstatic when certain

00:37:00.889 –> 00:37:06.119
ones didn’t. such as our number one, number two,

00:37:06.119 –> 00:37:10.079
and number five, that essentially stayed exactly

00:37:10.079 –> 00:37:14.199
where they were. Speaking of which, you talked

00:37:14.199 –> 00:37:15.639
about some movement. I’m going to give you real

00:37:15.639 –> 00:37:18.579
quick the shows that increased their standing

00:37:18.579 –> 00:37:22.159
20 spots or more. These are shows that increased

00:37:22.159 –> 00:37:25.079
where they landed by at least 20 spots. So we

00:37:25.079 –> 00:37:30.320
had Huckleberry Hound did that. We had Powerpuff

00:37:30.320 –> 00:37:37.900
Girls, Cowboy… bebop phineas and ferb and king

00:37:37.900 –> 00:37:41.019
of the hill and avatar those were the ones that

00:37:41.019 –> 00:37:44.980
climbed the most and uh oh and i’m sorry teen

00:37:44.980 –> 00:37:48.239
titans and daria uh if i didn’t mention those

00:37:48.239 –> 00:37:51.340
daria was the biggest climber of the entire group

00:37:51.340 –> 00:37:56.199
going up 61 spots and then teen titans 58 spots

00:37:56.199 –> 00:37:58.579
powerpuff girls 54 spots so those were like the

00:37:58.579 –> 00:38:01.579
huge movers everything else was closer to 20.

00:38:02.159 –> 00:38:05.300
And then as far as like the biggest drops, we

00:38:05.300 –> 00:38:09.940
had Star Wars Clone Wars dropped 31 spots. Super

00:38:09.940 –> 00:38:13.400
Friends dropped 52. Alvin and the Chipmunks surprisingly

00:38:13.400 –> 00:38:19.420
dropped 46. Beavis and Butthead dropped 31. And

00:38:19.420 –> 00:38:22.639
I think those are the only ones over 30. So there

00:38:22.639 –> 00:38:26.179
was definitely some big movers one way or the

00:38:26.179 –> 00:38:28.880
other. Mike, any other big surprises for you?

00:38:30.780 –> 00:38:34.599
No. not really all right well let’s get into

00:38:34.599 –> 00:38:38.219
uh another part here where we talk a little bit

00:38:38.219 –> 00:38:40.739
about some other picks that we haven’t revealed

00:38:40.739 –> 00:38:45.199
yet so like we said we talked about the 101 through

00:38:45.199 –> 00:38:51.039
110 that we revealed in the pre show and then

00:38:51.039 –> 00:38:53.260
i figured it’d be fun to take a quick look at

00:38:53.260 –> 00:38:55.760
111 through 125 i’ll go through these fairly

00:38:55.760 –> 00:38:58.079
quickly since there’s 15 of them or whatever

00:38:58.079 –> 00:38:59.340
we’re talking about which i think is fitting

00:38:59.340 –> 00:39:02.320
15 years 15 more picks that will reveal i guess

00:39:02.320 –> 00:39:06.260
so like we talked about with 101 through 110

00:39:06.260 –> 00:39:08.420
that was georgia the jungle magic school bus

00:39:08.420 –> 00:39:11.320
young justice bojack horseman bluey captain n

00:39:11.320 –> 00:39:14.300
and genesis evangelion winnie the pooh american

00:39:14.300 –> 00:39:16.199
dad and a pup named scooby -doo those are those

00:39:16.199 –> 00:39:18.199
we had already revealed if we pick up after that

00:39:18.199 –> 00:39:20.960
with 111 we would have transformers animated

00:39:20.960 –> 00:39:25.130
at number 111 We would have had Star Trek The

00:39:25.130 –> 00:39:28.530
Animated Series at 112. This is where we would

00:39:28.530 –> 00:39:30.789
have gotten the 2003 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

00:39:30.849 –> 00:39:36.469
Selection at 113. Doug at 114. Gumby Show at

00:39:36.469 –> 00:39:40.630
115. The Boondocks at 116. Sonic the Hedgehog

00:39:40.630 –> 00:39:45.449
at 117. Goof Troop 118. Harley Quinn 119. Star

00:39:45.449 –> 00:39:49.309
Trek Lower Decks 120. Quick Draw McGraw 121.

00:39:49.690 –> 00:39:55.750
2012 Turtles at 122. Hey Arnold, 123. My Little

00:39:55.750 –> 00:39:59.550
Pony Friendship is Magic, 124. And the 2017 DuckTales

00:39:59.550 –> 00:40:05.050
at 125. Mike, any thoughts about those 15 that

00:40:05.050 –> 00:40:09.449
came close but didn’t quite make it? Damn, TFA

00:40:09.449 –> 00:40:15.130
got in at 111. Was that close to having five

00:40:15.130 –> 00:40:18.579
Transformers series in our countdown? That’s

00:40:18.579 –> 00:40:22.300
not that close. That’s 11 spots off of getting

00:40:22.300 –> 00:40:27.179
in. It was like 90 points away. Oh, God. You

00:40:27.179 –> 00:40:30.599
failed us, Mike Seibert and Michael Andrews.

00:40:30.739 –> 00:40:33.679
Two Mikes, two Furious. You failed us, people.

00:40:35.039 –> 00:40:37.480
It’s interesting the amount of reboot love that

00:40:37.480 –> 00:40:39.099
came in there. We had Transformers animated,

00:40:39.360 –> 00:40:43.940
2003 Turtles. We had the 2012 Turtles, My Little

00:40:43.940 –> 00:40:45.739
Pony, Friendship and Magic, and DuckTales, the

00:40:45.739 –> 00:40:49.000
reboots. Those were all within 25 spots of making

00:40:49.000 –> 00:40:51.739
it. Mike or Steve, any other thoughts on those

00:40:51.739 –> 00:40:57.719
15? What was 121 through 123 again? 121 was Quick

00:40:57.719 –> 00:41:01.480
Draw McGraw, 122 was the 2012 Turtles, and 123

00:41:01.480 –> 00:41:08.000
was Hey Arnold. The good old football head. So

00:41:08.000 –> 00:41:10.139
interestingly, from a 90s standpoint, we would

00:41:10.139 –> 00:41:13.139
have only added A few, Doug, Sonic, Goof Troop,

00:41:13.139 –> 00:41:16.139
and Hey Arnold. From the more modern, we would

00:41:16.139 –> 00:41:17.699
have gotten quite a few. Harley Quinn, Lower

00:41:17.699 –> 00:41:21.099
Decks, 2012 Turtles, Friendship is Magic, and

00:41:21.099 –> 00:41:27.139
the 2017 DuckTales. No additions in that section

00:41:27.139 –> 00:41:30.000
from the 80s. There would have been no additional

00:41:30.000 –> 00:41:33.980
80s shows in there. And then we would have gotten,

00:41:34.039 –> 00:41:37.519
from an older school standpoint, Star Trek, Gumby,

00:41:37.679 –> 00:41:41.559
and Quick Draw McGraw. It’s kind of funny because

00:41:41.559 –> 00:41:48.940
out of this 111 through 125, I would have probably

00:41:48.940 –> 00:41:53.079
put Transformers animated. Star Trek, the animated

00:41:53.079 –> 00:41:58.300
series was not very good. I would not have. I

00:41:58.300 –> 00:42:03.039
would not have been for that. TMNT 2003, like

00:42:03.039 –> 00:42:07.630
100 % would have been for that. Yep. I know there’s

00:42:07.630 –> 00:42:10.469
a following for Boondocks. Sonic the Hedgehog,

00:42:10.510 –> 00:42:12.230
of course, like I would have voted for that.

00:42:13.170 –> 00:42:16.789
I think I did vote for that. Harley Quinn, I

00:42:16.789 –> 00:42:18.730
know there’s a following and there are some humorous

00:42:18.730 –> 00:42:20.789
aspects. Still haven’t seen that all the way,

00:42:20.849 –> 00:42:22.869
but I’ve seen enough episodes to know that it’s

00:42:22.869 –> 00:42:26.670
pretty good. Quick Draws, good. Lower Decks,

00:42:26.769 –> 00:42:30.530
I would have voted for because I did. 2012 TMNT

00:42:30.530 –> 00:42:33.809
was really good. Had a nice crossover at the

00:42:33.809 –> 00:42:37.130
87 Turtles. Hey Arnold had a good following.

00:42:37.389 –> 00:42:40.550
My Little Pony had a good following instead of

00:42:40.550 –> 00:42:43.429
the DuckTales. I think these are all solid contenders

00:42:43.429 –> 00:42:47.389
to get into the list. And they just lost out

00:42:47.389 –> 00:42:49.969
to other shows that had more notoriety and popularity

00:42:49.969 –> 00:42:57.429
from our panel of 44. Yeah, it was interesting.

00:42:57.530 –> 00:43:00.289
There was no 80s in that section. It would have

00:43:00.289 –> 00:43:02.969
actually taken us down to 131 to get to our next

00:43:02.969 –> 00:43:04.929
80s. There’s only actually three other 80 shows

00:43:04.929 –> 00:43:06.710
in the top 140. That would have been Dungeons

00:43:06.710 –> 00:43:09.590
and Dragons, Heathcliff, and She -Ra would have

00:43:09.590 –> 00:43:11.769
been three that were in the top 140. But otherwise,

00:43:11.869 –> 00:43:17.130
they had no representation from 111 to 130. So

00:43:17.130 –> 00:43:19.929
interesting from there. As far as shows that

00:43:19.929 –> 00:43:23.570
were on our nominees ballots or the 50 shows

00:43:23.570 –> 00:43:25.889
from each decade, is there any that you guys

00:43:25.889 –> 00:43:27.530
or stuff that you had on your list that you’re

00:43:27.530 –> 00:43:30.769
curious as far as where they came in that we

00:43:30.769 –> 00:43:36.159
haven’t revealed so far? Steve, anything that

00:43:36.159 –> 00:43:40.500
you’re curious about where it fell? I would say,

00:43:40.639 –> 00:43:48.099
where did the Masters of the Universe 2000X show?

00:43:48.679 –> 00:43:55.500
That would have been 149. So, 104, well, it was

00:43:55.500 –> 00:43:58.659
tied with, it was tied, 147, 148, and 149 were

00:43:58.659 –> 00:44:01.119
all tied. That was Arthur, Fat Albert, and the

00:44:01.119 –> 00:44:04.039
2002 He -Man series were all tied right around

00:44:04.039 –> 00:44:12.170
that. 149 spot. Interesting. What about… I

00:44:12.170 –> 00:44:13.849
know you were a fan of Dragon Ball. Dragon Ball

00:44:13.849 –> 00:44:20.269
Super would have been 145. Been in the top 150.

00:44:24.789 –> 00:44:30.250
What was What If at? What If? Marvel What If.

00:44:34.860 –> 00:44:36.860
Well, everything got votes except for four. The

00:44:36.860 –> 00:44:40.420
four shows we revealed in the pre. What if would

00:44:40.420 –> 00:44:50.119
have been 139? 39. Mighty Max? Mighty Max. Let’s

00:44:50.119 –> 00:44:56.340
see where that one fell. Perusing Mighty Max

00:44:56.340 –> 00:44:59.760
would have fallen all the way down to 198. Wow.

00:44:59.760 –> 00:45:05.610
Damn. Mega Man? Mega Man was 197 right before

00:45:05.610 –> 00:45:15.610
Mighty Max. Okay. Swatcats? I just saw that one

00:45:15.610 –> 00:45:20.230
a little bit ago. Where was that one? Apologize

00:45:20.230 –> 00:45:27.730
for my scrolling. Swatcats, 164. Hmm. Nice. Interesting.

00:45:29.389 –> 00:45:32.510
I had a few others that I voted on that I was

00:45:32.510 –> 00:45:36.829
curious about. What about the cybernetic space

00:45:36.829 –> 00:45:41.170
cube transformers generation two? That was not

00:45:41.170 –> 00:45:44.250
an option. I know, I know. That’s the point.

00:45:46.309 –> 00:45:52.010
Lord have mercy. It’s so obscure, it’s not even

00:45:52.010 –> 00:45:55.289
a contender. The only shows that received…

00:45:55.289 –> 00:46:00.570
Let’s see. The only shows that were on only one

00:46:00.570 –> 00:46:02.909
list. So only one person voted for these shows.

00:46:03.070 –> 00:46:04.809
So outside of the four that didn’t get any votes,

00:46:04.929 –> 00:46:06.650
these would have been the next ones that only

00:46:06.650 –> 00:46:09.710
received one vote. And that would have been C

00:46:09.710 –> 00:46:12.230
-Lab 2020, The Backyardigans, We Bare Bears,

00:46:12.650 –> 00:46:14.789
New Adventures of Flash Gordon, Big Hero 6, the

00:46:14.789 –> 00:46:17.780
series. banana splits adventure hour marvel spider

00:46:17.780 –> 00:46:20.460
-man harlem globetrotters wild kratts those were

00:46:20.460 –> 00:46:23.039
the ones that were only on one list interesting

00:46:23.039 –> 00:46:26.780
i know wild kratts was on my sons there we go

00:46:26.780 –> 00:46:31.480
i thought about voting for it for sure um another

00:46:31.480 –> 00:46:33.179
interesting thing we can do that i didn’t uh

00:46:33.179 –> 00:46:36.599
forgot to put in the script here but everybody’s

00:46:36.599 –> 00:46:39.179
number one so we did reveal that three people’s

00:46:39.179 –> 00:46:42.260
number one did not make the countdown so uh going

00:46:42.260 –> 00:46:46.570
through that here obviously we had The top, the

00:46:46.570 –> 00:46:49.050
most number one entries was actually Looney Tunes.

00:46:49.090 –> 00:46:51.449
Looney Tunes made it on nine people’s number

00:46:51.449 –> 00:46:53.429
one list, even though it wasn’t our number one

00:46:53.429 –> 00:46:55.849
overall or our number two overall. It did have

00:46:55.849 –> 00:46:59.050
the most times on the number one list. That was

00:46:59.050 –> 00:47:00.869
followed by Batman, the animated series, which

00:47:00.869 –> 00:47:04.650
was on eight people’s number ones. Then the next

00:47:04.650 –> 00:47:06.949
highest would be three appearances on a number

00:47:06.949 –> 00:47:08.650
one list, which would have been Gargoyles and

00:47:08.650 –> 00:47:11.409
Avatar, the last Airbender. Those both appeared

00:47:11.409 –> 00:47:14.500
on three. As far as ones that appeared on two,

00:47:14.579 –> 00:47:18.019
that would have been the 1980s DuckTales, Transformers,

00:47:18.039 –> 00:47:21.960
the Flintstones, Turtles, and Rocky and Bullwinkle.

00:47:22.019 –> 00:47:24.179
Those all made two appearances on people’s number

00:47:24.179 –> 00:47:26.440
ones. And then for the ones that were only on

00:47:26.440 –> 00:47:28.599
one, that would be The Simpsons, which came in

00:47:28.599 –> 00:47:30.179
number two, but it was only on one person’s number

00:47:30.179 –> 00:47:35.539
one. The Animaniacs, South Park, He -Man, Batman

00:47:35.539 –> 00:47:41.019
Beyond, The Ren and Stimpy Show, Reboot. sailor

00:47:41.019 –> 00:47:44.719
moon and then the ones that didn’t make the top

00:47:44.719 –> 00:47:48.239
100 which would have been bojack horseman then

00:47:48.239 –> 00:47:51.139
we got to go down to 148 somebody did have fat

00:47:51.139 –> 00:47:53.239
albert and the cosby kids as their number one

00:47:53.239 –> 00:47:57.360
and then we got to go all the way down to what

00:47:57.360 –> 00:48:02.059
would have came in at 199 visionaries knights

00:48:02.059 –> 00:48:05.280
of the magical light was one person’s number

00:48:05.280 –> 00:48:10.070
one overall and i will uh i will maybe reveal

00:48:10.070 –> 00:48:11.690
that that might have been the person that wrote

00:48:11.690 –> 00:48:17.050
the show so point dilly definitely had visionaries

00:48:17.050 –> 00:48:20.630
as his number one oh i mean you know you know

00:48:20.630 –> 00:48:23.530
if you write the show it’s your number one show

00:48:23.530 –> 00:48:25.969
i mean even some love to it i understand why

00:48:25.969 –> 00:48:29.969
so um that was definitely some interesting things

00:48:29.969 –> 00:48:32.769
to see some of some of their their picks um to

00:48:32.769 –> 00:48:34.809
go over some of the i guess the celebrities that

00:48:34.809 –> 00:48:38.309
we had involved or the historians, voice actors,

00:48:38.489 –> 00:48:42.090
writers, et cetera, what their number ones were.

00:48:42.289 –> 00:48:44.070
So Flint Dilley had Visionary as number one.

00:48:44.170 –> 00:48:47.190
Buzz Dixon had Rocky and Bullwinkle. Tom Ruger,

00:48:47.329 –> 00:48:49.909
no surprise here, he had Animaniacs as his number

00:48:49.909 –> 00:48:54.550
one. We had Keith Scott had Looney Tunes. Greg

00:48:54.550 –> 00:48:57.969
Airbar had the Flintstones. And Jerry Beck had

00:48:57.969 –> 00:49:01.510
Rocky and Bullwinkle. So those were some of those.

00:49:02.090 –> 00:49:05.389
uh votes as far as number ones from from those

00:49:05.389 –> 00:49:09.809
folks so let’s do a little comparison contrast

00:49:09.809 –> 00:49:14.710
from 15 years ago to today so i’m going to give

00:49:14.710 –> 00:49:17.289
you a set of shows and i’m going to go through

00:49:17.289 –> 00:49:19.730
them fairly try to do it fairly quickly there

00:49:19.730 –> 00:49:23.409
was 27 shows that switched so we had 27 that

00:49:23.409 –> 00:49:26.579
exited the countdown 27 that entered I’m going

00:49:26.579 –> 00:49:28.579
to give you that block and see what you guys

00:49:28.579 –> 00:49:30.980
think is the block that we ended up with better

00:49:30.980 –> 00:49:35.280
than the block we kicked out. So here’s the 27

00:49:35.280 –> 00:49:38.300
new shows to the countdown. We have Justice League

00:49:38.300 –> 00:49:42.840
Unlimited, Teen Titans, Daria, Archer, Schoolhouse

00:49:42.840 –> 00:49:45.579
Rock, The Venture Brothers, Bob’s Burgers, Rick

00:49:45.579 –> 00:49:48.280
and Morty, Gravity Falls, Kim Possible, Star

00:49:48.280 –> 00:49:50.599
Wars Rebels, Adventure Time, Beast Machines,

00:49:50.619 –> 00:49:53.800
Robot Chicken. Underdog, Invincible, The Legend

00:49:53.800 –> 00:49:56.679
of Korra, Rocko’s Modern Life, Wacky Races, Beetlejuice,

00:49:56.780 –> 00:50:00.019
X -Men 97, Dragon Ball, Transformers Prime, Invader

00:50:00.019 –> 00:50:03.559
Zim, Speed Racer, Hopcat, and Full Metal Alchemist.

00:50:03.599 –> 00:50:07.039
Those were all new to the countdown. As far as

00:50:07.039 –> 00:50:12.679
the ones that left, Mask, the 2002 He -Man, the

00:50:12.679 –> 00:50:16.659
2003 Turtles, She -Ra, Silver Hawks, Bravestar,

00:50:16.880 –> 00:50:20.010
Johnny Bravo, Doug, Death Note, Spider -Man and

00:50:20.010 –> 00:50:22.829
His Amazing Friends, Captain N, Aladdin, Care

00:50:22.829 –> 00:50:25.670
Bears, The Original Spider -Man, Mighty Max,

00:50:25.829 –> 00:50:29.369
Static Shock, Arthur, Cops, Harvey Birdman, Where

00:50:29.369 –> 00:50:31.369
on Earth is Carmen Sandiego, Mobile Suit Gundam,

00:50:31.449 –> 00:50:33.510
Fat Albert, Captain Planet, Hong Kong Phooey,

00:50:33.570 –> 00:50:36.289
Swat Cats, Magic School Bus, and Neon Genesis

00:50:36.289 –> 00:50:39.550
Evangelion. Just when you hear those two groups,

00:50:39.789 –> 00:50:42.750
Mike, do you feel like the 25 that we put in

00:50:42.750 –> 00:50:45.889
this time outweigh the 25 that we took out? Thanks

00:50:45.889 –> 00:50:49.019
and match. No, can’t mix and match. If you had

00:50:49.019 –> 00:50:53.539
to take one set of 25 or the other, do you think

00:50:53.539 –> 00:50:57.239
we ended up with a better one? I don’t know.

00:50:57.239 –> 00:51:00.840
That’s why I asked. Can we mix and match? Because

00:51:00.840 –> 00:51:04.039
some of the ones from the other group are better

00:51:04.039 –> 00:51:06.420
than some of the ones from the group we ended

00:51:06.420 –> 00:51:10.199
up with. I would argue it’s subjective just based

00:51:10.199 –> 00:51:12.119
on opinion and what you grew up with because

00:51:12.119 –> 00:51:16.039
there’s a lot of the shows that… made it in

00:51:16.039 –> 00:51:19.840
this time that would have been introduced either

00:51:19.840 –> 00:51:25.900
just before or during the time span of the last

00:51:25.900 –> 00:51:29.300
top 100 yeah so that would be like yeah we had

00:51:29.300 –> 00:51:31.420
justice league archer bob’s burgers rick and

00:51:31.420 –> 00:51:33.619
morty’s gravity falls star wars rebels adventure

00:51:33.619 –> 00:51:36.480
time invincible legend of korra x -men 97 and

00:51:36.480 –> 00:51:37.940
transformers prime wouldn’t have been eligible

00:51:37.940 –> 00:51:45.110
yeah so i mean I feel like the original list

00:51:45.110 –> 00:51:49.789
of the ones that didn’t make the list, I mean,

00:51:49.789 –> 00:51:53.170
obviously, I wish I could mix and match between

00:51:53.170 –> 00:51:55.409
the two because there’s ones that made this list

00:51:55.409 –> 00:51:59.530
that I was like, eh. But if I had to choose between

00:51:59.530 –> 00:52:01.989
those two, like the ones that left and the ones

00:52:01.989 –> 00:52:04.010
that entered, I would go with the ones that entered

00:52:04.010 –> 00:52:08.110
because we got a much more diverse group of shows.

00:52:08.250 –> 00:52:12.940
We got things that have… More or less resonated

00:52:12.940 –> 00:52:16.659
with the public are not forgotten. A lot of the

00:52:16.659 –> 00:52:20.500
shows that were that were in the last block from

00:52:20.500 –> 00:52:25.500
15 years ago were either even recent as the 90s

00:52:25.500 –> 00:52:28.619
or some of them are from, you know, 60s on up.

00:52:28.659 –> 00:52:32.769
And. I feel like because there’s been so many

00:52:32.769 –> 00:52:35.750
new iterations and the scarcity of seeing those

00:52:35.750 –> 00:52:37.769
shows now because, I mean, we don’t have Saturday

00:52:37.769 –> 00:52:39.690
morning cartoons. We don’t have Cartoon Network

00:52:39.690 –> 00:52:42.510
on cable. We don’t have, you know, all of these

00:52:42.510 –> 00:52:44.550
things that we had back then that introduced

00:52:44.550 –> 00:52:48.489
us to a wider variety of content. Plus, we didn’t

00:52:48.489 –> 00:52:52.710
have streaming and YouTube where, well, yes,

00:52:52.769 –> 00:52:55.570
you can find them. The likelihood of someone

00:52:55.570 –> 00:52:57.630
clicking on them unless they grew up with it

00:52:57.630 –> 00:53:02.269
is very slim. And yeah, I feel like any of the

00:53:02.269 –> 00:53:04.250
things that made the list this time as opposed

00:53:04.250 –> 00:53:07.909
to last time, that would that would be why that

00:53:07.909 –> 00:53:11.869
they were seen is because they had a more broad

00:53:11.869 –> 00:53:16.510
marketing appeal to the more recent generations.

00:53:16.610 –> 00:53:19.289
And so I feel like those have stuck around a

00:53:19.289 –> 00:53:21.349
little bit better. I think you can make an argument

00:53:21.349 –> 00:53:23.409
for the He -Man reboot, the Turtles reboot. I

00:53:23.409 –> 00:53:25.130
think you can make an argument for Mobile Suit

00:53:25.130 –> 00:53:28.030
Gundam and Genesis Evangelion. I think those

00:53:28.030 –> 00:53:29.429
are maybe the ones that you might want to put

00:53:29.429 –> 00:53:33.349
in. Maybe Doug. But when you think about the

00:53:33.349 –> 00:53:36.690
list that replaced it with stuff like Star Wars

00:53:36.690 –> 00:53:43.159
Rebels and Daria and… For me, Archer or, you

00:53:43.159 –> 00:53:45.800
know, we added a few other like the original

00:53:45.800 –> 00:53:48.659
Dragon Ball and Robot Chicken and the Venture

00:53:48.659 –> 00:53:50.059
Brothers. Like, I feel like there’s some heavy

00:53:50.059 –> 00:53:51.659
hitters that we added. I know one group that

00:53:51.659 –> 00:53:54.159
definitely took a beating in the 15 years, and

00:53:54.159 –> 00:53:57.340
that was 80s action cartoons. So we probably

00:53:57.340 –> 00:53:59.440
had a little bit more biases toward those 15

00:53:59.440 –> 00:54:01.840
years ago. But when you’re looking at the fact

00:54:01.840 –> 00:54:03.300
that when we’re talking about the countdown,

00:54:03.519 –> 00:54:06.579
you know, G .I. Joe fell to number 28 and. You

00:54:06.579 –> 00:54:07.960
know, we talked about some of that, but then

00:54:07.960 –> 00:54:09.420
you look at the ones that didn’t make it. So

00:54:09.420 –> 00:54:12.820
we have Mask that didn’t make it, She -Ra, Silverhawks,

00:54:12.860 –> 00:54:20.380
Bravestar, Captain N, Care Bears, Cops. All of

00:54:20.380 –> 00:54:23.099
those fell to the wayside. So there was definitely

00:54:23.099 –> 00:54:27.320
a swinging of the pendulum back away from some

00:54:27.320 –> 00:54:32.000
of these 80s action. And I don’t necessarily

00:54:32.000 –> 00:54:34.000
think it’s wrong. Like, yes, a bunch of those

00:54:34.000 –> 00:54:36.320
are ones that hold a special heart from a special

00:54:36.320 –> 00:54:39.500
spot in my heart. But I do think we’ve kind of

00:54:39.500 –> 00:54:40.980
landed on some of the best of the best that made

00:54:40.980 –> 00:54:42.639
it right. Like we got our turtles, we got our

00:54:42.639 –> 00:54:44.699
transformers, we got our He -Man, our Thundercats,

00:54:44.699 –> 00:54:47.860
our G .I. Joe. And then some of the non -action

00:54:47.860 –> 00:54:51.039
ones when you go to like Muppet Babies and Inspector

00:54:51.039 –> 00:54:55.320
Gadget and Alvin and the Chipmunks, like some

00:54:55.320 –> 00:54:58.260
of those like that kind of stuck around. I’m

00:54:58.260 –> 00:55:00.579
not surprised to see some of the likes of Mask

00:55:00.579 –> 00:55:04.900
and Cops and Silverhawks and Bravestar not make

00:55:04.900 –> 00:55:09.380
it this time around. Mike, any thoughts on the

00:55:09.380 –> 00:55:13.659
two lists comparatively? Yeah, I mean, they’re

00:55:13.659 –> 00:55:16.519
just very, very different. And again, like you

00:55:16.519 –> 00:55:19.119
guys have said, it shows the difference in the

00:55:19.119 –> 00:55:23.780
time span since we started this 15 years ago

00:55:23.780 –> 00:55:28.199
and just how the times have changed. I mean,

00:55:28.219 –> 00:55:30.360
like we were talking earlier about what we would

00:55:30.360 –> 00:55:34.920
take off and what we would add in. Honestly,

00:55:35.099 –> 00:55:39.840
I would probably replace Brendan Stimpy with

00:55:39.840 –> 00:55:44.820
mask, you know, like, no, it’s not, not for me,

00:55:44.880 –> 00:55:53.300
not for me personally. Just saying that some

00:55:53.300 –> 00:55:54.780
of the ones that missed it didn’t miss it by

00:55:54.780 –> 00:55:58.170
that much either. The Turtles would have been

00:55:58.170 –> 00:56:01.369
113, Doug would have been 114, Captain N 106,

00:56:01.789 –> 00:56:04.989
we have Magic School Bus 102, Evangelion 107,

00:56:05.110 –> 00:56:06.889
so even though they didn’t make the countdown,

00:56:07.110 –> 00:56:10.469
they didn’t necessarily fall that far. The ones

00:56:10.469 –> 00:56:14.769
that fell far, Bravestar would have been 221st,

00:56:14.769 –> 00:56:16.449
and Spider -Man, the original, would have been

00:56:16.449 –> 00:56:19.070
231st. Those would have fallen quite significantly.

00:56:19.789 –> 00:56:22.250
um other than that but spider -man the original

00:56:22.250 –> 00:56:24.750
what year are you talking about i don’t i don’t

00:56:24.750 –> 00:56:26.130
have all that listed there were so many spider

00:56:26.130 –> 00:56:28.989
-mans uh yeah so the one we have on here the

00:56:28.989 –> 00:56:31.389
one we have on here spider -man 94 that’s the

00:56:31.389 –> 00:56:33.809
one that counts well we have two we have that

00:56:33.809 –> 00:56:36.789
one and we have the uh spectacular spider -man

00:56:36.789 –> 00:56:40.710
whereas last time we had last time we had the

00:56:40.710 –> 00:56:42.329
original spider -man and spider -man and his

00:56:42.329 –> 00:56:44.690
amazing friends so we had a much heavier spider

00:56:44.690 –> 00:56:50.059
-man last time than we did this time. But Spider

00:56:50.059 –> 00:56:51.260
-Man and his Amazing Friends would have fallen

00:56:51.260 –> 00:56:55.400
to 173, Mighty Max 198, Pops 170, Carmen San

00:56:55.400 –> 00:57:00.239
Diego 171. So those would have been not as close.

00:57:00.320 –> 00:57:02.179
But we did have quite a few that were pretty

00:57:02.179 –> 00:57:04.739
close to making it. And we had some that just

00:57:04.739 –> 00:57:06.119
missed last time that made it this time. Teen

00:57:06.119 –> 00:57:08.840
Titans last time was 104, Dario was 107, Schoolhouse

00:57:08.840 –> 00:57:11.519
Rock was tied for 100, Impossible 110, Beast

00:57:11.519 –> 00:57:14.239
Machines 106. So all of those were able to just

00:57:14.239 –> 00:57:18.199
get enough to kind of bump into the top 100 this

00:57:18.199 –> 00:57:20.400
time around. And another thing we did is we kind

00:57:20.400 –> 00:57:22.199
of looked through the list and had those revealed

00:57:22.199 –> 00:57:24.079
as we did talk some stats and things like that

00:57:24.079 –> 00:57:26.159
as far as decades and channels and production

00:57:26.159 –> 00:57:29.000
companies. So the final stats on that went as

00:57:29.000 –> 00:57:33.719
follows. It was interesting to see, especially

00:57:33.719 –> 00:57:38.900
how it progressed over the time. So we had the

00:57:38.900 –> 00:57:44.179
2010 to present. It had 10, I believe it was

00:57:44.179 –> 00:57:46.940
10 shows total. All of those were in the first

00:57:46.940 –> 00:57:51.400
two episodes. So if they were appeared in the

00:57:51.400 –> 00:57:54.260
last 15 years, they weren’t going to crack the

00:57:54.260 –> 00:57:56.980
top 50. They didn’t have enough time to do that,

00:57:57.019 –> 00:57:59.139
but we did have 10 of them that made it onto

00:57:59.139 –> 00:58:03.300
the countdown. Then the 2000s was next with 16

00:58:03.300 –> 00:58:05.599
entries. They were spread out pretty evenly.

00:58:05.619 –> 00:58:09.130
We had five in the first episode, four. and the

00:58:09.130 –> 00:58:11.210
second, four, and the third, and three, and the

00:58:11.210 –> 00:58:13.610
last one. So the 2000s were kind of just divvied

00:58:13.610 –> 00:58:17.469
up equally amongst the group. 90s, we only had

00:58:17.469 –> 00:58:19.670
three of them in the first episode. Then we had

00:58:19.670 –> 00:58:22.030
nine in the second, and then 11 in both the third

00:58:22.030 –> 00:58:23.510
and the fourth. So they’re going to reign supreme

00:58:23.510 –> 00:58:28.110
with 34 entries total. 80s was also an interesting

00:58:28.110 –> 00:58:29.969
one. Eight in the first episode, only one in

00:58:29.969 –> 00:58:31.789
the second, and then seven in the final two.

00:58:31.849 –> 00:58:35.429
So they had 22. And then the classics. kind of

00:58:35.429 –> 00:58:38.309
evenly spread out five six three and four so

00:58:38.309 –> 00:58:41.449
there was 18 of those so 90s reign supreme with

00:58:41.449 –> 00:58:44.670
34 then the 80s with 22 then the old classics

00:58:44.670 –> 00:58:47.909
with 18 then the 2000s with 16 and then the last

00:58:47.909 –> 00:58:50.909
15 years with 10 steve any surprises or did that

00:58:50.909 –> 00:58:54.710
go kind of how you expected i mean kind of how

00:58:54.710 –> 00:58:59.190
i expected yeah it’s yeah i was surprised that

00:58:59.190 –> 00:59:00.889
the 90s had an episode where they only had three

00:59:00.889 –> 00:59:02.269
and the 80s had an episode where they only had

00:59:02.269 –> 00:59:04.190
one just how they’re kind of broken down in the

00:59:04.190 –> 00:59:07.150
rankings but uh they did obviously reign supreme

00:59:07.150 –> 00:59:09.530
but 80s only four more shows in the 80s than

00:59:09.530 –> 00:59:13.010
there was in the classics so it was a little

00:59:13.010 –> 00:59:14.889
closer than than we had last time that’s for

00:59:14.889 –> 00:59:19.010
sure and then i know yeah that’s different well

00:59:19.010 –> 00:59:23.110
i think the difference is we’re getting closer

00:59:23.110 –> 00:59:26.989
to where and no disrespect to the 80s obviously

00:59:26.989 –> 00:59:30.409
i’m an 80s kid but The difference is we’re getting

00:59:30.409 –> 00:59:35.250
to the point where the 90s is. Obviously, it’s

00:59:35.250 –> 00:59:39.550
30 years away from where we are now, but it’s

00:59:39.550 –> 00:59:41.670
going to get closer to the point where it’s 40

00:59:41.670 –> 00:59:45.449
years away and the 80s is going to be 50 years

00:59:45.449 –> 00:59:49.090
away kind of thing. So when the 90s gets to the

00:59:49.090 –> 00:59:52.239
point of hitting that 40th anniversary. it’s

00:59:52.239 –> 00:59:57.159
going to hit nineties kids like Steve, like a

00:59:57.159 –> 01:00:01.079
ton of bricks, a lot more. It’s kind of like

01:00:01.079 –> 01:00:03.840
when the eighties got to the 40th anniversary

01:00:03.840 –> 01:00:09.760
of stuff, like right now in 2026, we’re celebrating

01:00:09.760 –> 01:00:12.539
the 40th anniversary of transformers, the movie,

01:00:12.579 –> 01:00:15.079
and it’s all, it’s hitting all of us like a ton

01:00:15.079 –> 01:00:18.900
of bricks kind of thing. So I think that’s why

01:00:18.900 –> 01:00:24.219
this time around. the 90s reigned supreme and

01:00:24.219 –> 01:00:27.760
again like we’ve mentioned this whole time in

01:00:27.760 –> 01:00:29.880
the countdown episodes in the nominee episodes

01:00:29.880 –> 01:00:35.719
we had 44 people versus last time where we only

01:00:35.719 –> 01:00:40.579
had 20 21 whatever it was i think it was 20 so

01:00:40.579 –> 01:00:45.639
we had double the people this time doing so i

01:00:45.639 –> 01:00:47.260
think one thing that we’ve found out through

01:00:47.260 –> 01:00:50.969
this countdown is that at least that I think

01:00:50.969 –> 01:00:53.250
reveals in the numbers is that 15 years ago,

01:00:53.289 –> 01:00:55.010
the classics were already kind of cemented as

01:00:55.010 –> 01:00:57.289
the classics, right? So when we’re looking to

01:00:57.289 –> 01:00:59.190
see like, what’s going to these 10 shows that

01:00:59.190 –> 01:01:01.530
are going to be entering from the last 15 years,

01:01:01.610 –> 01:01:04.630
the likelihood of those taking one of the classic

01:01:04.630 –> 01:01:07.849
spots, maybe not as high because they were already

01:01:07.849 –> 01:01:10.309
old, right? Like they were already classic. So

01:01:10.309 –> 01:01:12.510
like, we’re not going to change our opinions

01:01:12.510 –> 01:01:15.730
too much on the classics. So for me, those 10

01:01:15.730 –> 01:01:19.659
spots have to steal from somebody else. and the

01:01:19.659 –> 01:01:22.239
80s makes more sense, I guess, because there

01:01:22.239 –> 01:01:23.699
was probably a little bit more biases in there

01:01:23.699 –> 01:01:26.460
to steal from the 80s. I don’t think you’re going

01:01:26.460 –> 01:01:28.159
to steal a whole lot from the 2000s because some

01:01:28.159 –> 01:01:29.860
of those were just needing a little bit of time,

01:01:29.920 –> 01:01:31.599
unless there was a recency bias and somebody

01:01:31.599 –> 01:01:33.559
voted on it just because it was current. So I

01:01:33.559 –> 01:01:35.639
think it makes sense for those additional shows

01:01:35.639 –> 01:01:38.179
to not necessarily take from the classics, but

01:01:38.179 –> 01:01:40.000
maybe take more from one of those other time

01:01:40.000 –> 01:01:43.800
periods. So eventually you get to the point where

01:01:43.800 –> 01:01:47.679
those 18 shows that we included in the… classic

01:01:47.679 –> 01:01:52.599
era would probably be relevant and mentioned

01:01:52.599 –> 01:01:55.860
almost no matter when we do this and over time

01:01:55.860 –> 01:01:57.960
i think that happens to the 80s and the 90s as

01:01:57.960 –> 01:02:01.139
well right like the the more the time goes on

01:02:01.139 –> 01:02:04.960
i guess you know like a polishing stone or stone

01:02:04.960 –> 01:02:06.920
polishing stone or whatever that iron sharpening

01:02:06.920 –> 01:02:08.579
iron or whatever you whatever phrase you want

01:02:08.579 –> 01:02:11.559
to go like you’ll you’ll whittle yourself down

01:02:11.559 –> 01:02:15.559
to like these are the shows yeah that’s one I

01:02:15.559 –> 01:02:16.800
haven’t heard before, but these are the shows

01:02:16.800 –> 01:02:18.519
from the eighties that are like, are just going

01:02:18.519 –> 01:02:20.039
to make it no matter what. Right. Like you’re

01:02:20.039 –> 01:02:21.840
going to have your transformers. You’re going

01:02:21.840 –> 01:02:23.260
to have your turtles. You’re going to have your

01:02:23.260 –> 01:02:25.519
duck tails, like whatever those shows are. And

01:02:25.519 –> 01:02:27.219
it won’t matter when you do this, like those

01:02:27.219 –> 01:02:29.840
will appear. And so I think the further you get

01:02:29.840 –> 01:02:31.840
away from stuff, maybe the more you end up with

01:02:31.840 –> 01:02:36.519
like the best of the best from that era. Yeah.

01:02:37.059 –> 01:02:41.079
Yeah. So, um, as far as channels go, obviously

01:02:41.079 –> 01:02:42.980
we had more syndicated shows than anything else.

01:02:43.000 –> 01:02:45.909
They reign supreme. When it comes to actual channels,

01:02:45.989 –> 01:02:48.909
though, I was shocked that ABC was the most represented.

01:02:49.070 –> 01:02:51.550
I didn’t realize that was a thing. I had no idea

01:02:51.550 –> 01:02:55.030
between CBS, NBC and ABC which one had more of

01:02:55.030 –> 01:02:57.869
a cartoon presence. But ABC came away with 14

01:02:57.869 –> 01:03:02.670
shows. Fox or Fox Kids had 11 and Cartoon Network

01:03:02.670 –> 01:03:05.130
had 11 and then down to Nickelodeon and Disney

01:03:05.130 –> 01:03:07.369
with eight apiece. Steve, anything surprise you

01:03:07.369 –> 01:03:14.880
as far as that goes? No, I mean. I really didn’t

01:03:14.880 –> 01:03:18.940
expect anything like as far as that. I was more

01:03:18.940 –> 01:03:21.280
dialing into the shows. So like, of course, it’s

01:03:21.280 –> 01:03:25.099
interesting when I hear the metrics on channels

01:03:25.099 –> 01:03:28.619
that these actually came from. Yeah. But it’s

01:03:28.619 –> 01:03:31.260
also like they’ve all changed so much over the

01:03:31.260 –> 01:03:33.179
years because people have bought different ones.

01:03:33.199 –> 01:03:35.519
So it’s kind of like, what one did that actually

01:03:35.519 –> 01:03:38.809
belong to? For sure. No, I totally get that.

01:03:38.869 –> 01:03:40.809
And we had five companies that kind of separated

01:03:40.809 –> 01:03:42.690
themselves as well. We had Nickelodeon that had

01:03:42.690 –> 01:03:45.929
seven shows represented. Marvel had eight, Disney

01:03:45.929 –> 01:03:50.110
10, Hanna -Barbera 11, and the WB 12. WB kind

01:03:50.110 –> 01:03:52.050
of has a benefit there of not only having some

01:03:52.050 –> 01:03:55.809
of those DC shows, but then also having the Animaniacs,

01:03:55.829 –> 01:03:58.829
Tiny Toons, Pinky and the Brain, WB shows as

01:03:58.829 –> 01:04:01.929
well. So WB edges out Hanna -Barbera by one,

01:04:02.010 –> 01:04:05.429
and Hanna -Barbera edged out Disney by one. Mike,

01:04:05.530 –> 01:04:09.730
any surprises there? no all right so because

01:04:09.730 –> 01:04:11.969
again because again you’re you’re even though

01:04:11.969 –> 01:04:15.610
the reason why it doesn’t surprise me is because

01:04:15.610 –> 01:04:22.349
wb and hannah barbara were both at the time in

01:04:22.349 –> 01:04:26.730
the olden times they were theatrical shorts and

01:04:26.730 –> 01:04:31.769
disney when they started doing like the full

01:04:31.769 –> 01:04:35.650
-fledged theatrical stuff they shifted their

01:04:35.650 –> 01:04:39.190
focus to that like they still did the mickey

01:04:39.190 –> 01:04:41.809
shorts and the mickey stuff and the goofy and

01:04:41.809 –> 01:04:45.230
then the donald and all that but starting in

01:04:45.230 –> 01:04:49.170
37 and going forward the focus was the features

01:04:49.170 –> 01:04:55.250
and warner’s for the most part for animation

01:04:55.250 –> 01:05:00.449
like i don’t remember hearing about in the olden

01:05:00.449 –> 01:05:04.019
times Full -fledged Warner Brothers animation.

01:05:04.920 –> 01:05:09.260
I remember hearing about shorts for Bugs and

01:05:09.260 –> 01:05:13.139
Daffy and Porky and everybody. Same thing with,

01:05:13.139 –> 01:05:16.719
with Hanna -Barbera. I don’t remember, like,

01:05:16.800 –> 01:05:20.500
I remember I’m a steely -eyed, blue -eyed stranger.

01:05:20.800 –> 01:05:23.260
I remember Huckleberry Hound having like, but

01:05:23.260 –> 01:05:25.579
that was, you know, cobbled together kind of

01:05:25.579 –> 01:05:28.320
thing. But like, so no, that doesn’t surprise

01:05:28.320 –> 01:05:30.800
me at all. Because again, that’s the classic

01:05:30.800 –> 01:05:34.300
era. where Warner Brothers and Hanna -Barbera

01:05:34.300 –> 01:05:37.900
are going to edge out Disney on certain things.

01:05:39.559 –> 01:05:42.420
Going back just real quick, last thing I want

01:05:42.420 –> 01:05:45.239
to just mention on the time period piece, because

01:05:45.239 –> 01:05:46.840
that’s kind of what we’ve been talking about.

01:05:46.920 –> 01:05:50.800
But the 90s, I think sometimes may get, you know,

01:05:50.800 –> 01:05:52.860
you see this list and you see the 90s reign supreme,

01:05:53.159 –> 01:05:56.000
you know, quite a few more shows than any other

01:05:56.000 –> 01:05:57.900
time period. And you might get some people that

01:05:57.900 –> 01:06:00.340
say, you know, 90s nostalgia or what’s the age

01:06:00.340 –> 01:06:02.769
of the folks involved. and things of that nature

01:06:02.769 –> 01:06:07.210
i would say that that’s not what happened for

01:06:07.210 –> 01:06:09.969
me like yes i will always be an 80s kid and that’ll

01:06:09.969 –> 01:06:11.789
always be like my generation and then the stuff

01:06:11.789 –> 01:06:14.929
that i love to go back to but i don’t think 90s

01:06:14.929 –> 01:06:17.150
reigning supreme is just a 90s nostalgia thing

01:06:17.150 –> 01:06:19.030
or has anything to do with the age of the folks

01:06:19.030 –> 01:06:22.690
that were present and taking a part of this poll

01:06:22.690 –> 01:06:27.800
the 90s really were unique because Every major

01:06:27.800 –> 01:06:30.139
corner of television animation peaked at the

01:06:30.139 –> 01:06:32.420
same time. And I’m going to give you guys a rundown.

01:06:32.500 –> 01:06:35.420
So you had Disney afternoon reaching its peak

01:06:35.420 –> 01:06:38.699
in the nineties. You had Warner brothers having

01:06:38.699 –> 01:06:41.300
their television Renaissance in the nineties.

01:06:41.420 –> 01:06:44.500
You had Nickelodeon creating Nick tunes in the

01:06:44.500 –> 01:06:47.340
nineties. You had cartoon network launching original

01:06:47.340 –> 01:06:51.139
programming during this decade. You had Fox redefining

01:06:51.139 –> 01:06:54.059
adult animation. You had Marvel television animation

01:06:54.059 –> 01:06:57.199
exploding. You had DC creating the animated universe.

01:06:57.320 –> 01:06:59.780
And you had anime entering the American mainstream.

01:07:00.019 –> 01:07:03.679
No decade before the 90s or since has had all

01:07:03.679 –> 01:07:05.739
of those movements happening simultaneously.

01:07:06.619 –> 01:07:09.679
So I don’t think it’s nostalgia. I don’t think

01:07:09.679 –> 01:07:11.800
it’s an age thing. I think it’s talking about

01:07:11.800 –> 01:07:16.219
a decade that in multiple facets was expanding

01:07:16.219 –> 01:07:19.750
and reaching different things. during the 90s

01:07:19.750 –> 01:07:21.389
and i don’t think that can i don’t think anybody

01:07:21.389 –> 01:07:23.130
can like really make an argument against that

01:07:23.130 –> 01:07:28.329
and i’m just looking at our top 20 hell our top

01:07:28.329 –> 01:07:32.449
21 starting with king of the hill going to batman

01:07:32.449 –> 01:07:36.809
the animated series in our top 21 of this top

01:07:36.809 –> 01:07:41.820
100 there are so many different things and maybe

01:07:41.820 –> 01:07:45.760
one or two or maybe 10 of them out of the top

01:07:45.760 –> 01:07:49.760
21 might be outside the nineties, but most of

01:07:49.760 –> 01:07:53.539
them are inside the nineties in the top 10 alone.

01:07:54.599 –> 01:08:03.679
There are one, two, three that I can count without

01:08:03.679 –> 01:08:07.019
like actually having to count kind of thing,

01:08:07.159 –> 01:08:11.789
uh, that are like designated. technically four

01:08:11.789 –> 01:08:16.029
now that i can see south park uh but like designated

01:08:16.029 –> 01:08:21.369
90s cartoons that actually start because for

01:08:21.369 –> 01:08:25.909
me like turtles i don’t count turtles as a 90s

01:08:25.909 –> 01:08:29.449
cartoon even though it went into the 90s it started

01:08:29.449 –> 01:08:35.369
in 1987 like that’s when it started Okay. That

01:08:35.369 –> 01:08:38.149
that’s how I count something. I don’t count something

01:08:38.149 –> 01:08:41.510
as a nineties thing. If it started in the previous

01:08:41.510 –> 01:08:45.630
decade. Okay. Like the Flintstones started in

01:08:45.630 –> 01:08:48.069
the sixties. I don’t count it as a seventies

01:08:48.069 –> 01:08:49.670
card. You know what I mean? Even though it didn’t

01:08:49.670 –> 01:08:52.369
last until the seventies, obviously, but like,

01:08:52.369 –> 01:08:54.250
you know what I mean? Like, I don’t understand

01:08:54.250 –> 01:08:57.310
people that will do that. That will say, oh,

01:08:57.409 –> 01:09:01.029
well it started. It’s a, like if something aired

01:09:01.029 –> 01:09:05.159
the first episode. December 31st of 1989 and

01:09:05.159 –> 01:09:09.760
then aired all the way up to 1996. Oh, it’s a

01:09:09.760 –> 01:09:11.539
90s cartoon. No, it’s not. It started in the

01:09:11.539 –> 01:09:14.180
80s. I still would say that’s a 90s cartoon.

01:09:14.380 –> 01:09:16.600
Okay, but you know what I mean, though. But you

01:09:16.600 –> 01:09:18.319
know what I, you know what, you get what I’m,

01:09:18.340 –> 01:09:20.920
you see what I’m saying, though. But like, if

01:09:20.920 –> 01:09:23.539
you look at our top 100 countdown this time around,

01:09:23.640 –> 01:09:28.520
15th anniversary, 2026 edition, I would say that.

01:09:28.880 –> 01:09:35.720
this time around we do have more of a overall

01:09:35.720 –> 01:09:41.939
rounded like every era is represented even though

01:09:41.939 –> 01:09:45.720
some people might say oh i want just like us

01:09:45.720 –> 01:09:48.479
we want this in this number we want this higher

01:09:48.479 –> 01:09:52.359
we want this lower it’s a really great representation

01:09:52.359 –> 01:09:57.270
of of of everything i think Yeah, I think it

01:09:57.270 –> 01:09:58.829
goes into some of the arguments that we had or

01:09:58.829 –> 01:10:00.170
the debates we talked about. Like, what do you

01:10:00.170 –> 01:10:02.390
value? And like some people like myself, you

01:10:02.390 –> 01:10:04.649
know, historical foundation or, you know, importance

01:10:04.649 –> 01:10:07.310
to like what what they open doors to. I think

01:10:07.310 –> 01:10:09.729
we have a good spattering of that, right? We

01:10:09.729 –> 01:10:11.369
have the Flintstones and Rocky and Bullwinkle

01:10:11.369 –> 01:10:12.970
and Scooby -Doo and Popeye. Obviously, some of

01:10:12.970 –> 01:10:14.369
those classic Huckleberry Hound Looney Tunes.

01:10:14.909 –> 01:10:17.430
We also have stuff like Space Coast Coast to

01:10:17.430 –> 01:10:19.670
Coast, which kind of opened things up for Adult

01:10:19.670 –> 01:10:21.529
Swim. And we have Reboot, which was the first

01:10:21.529 –> 01:10:24.069
fully CGI television series and things of that

01:10:24.069 –> 01:10:26.000
nature. So we have some. historical foundation

01:10:26.000 –> 01:10:28.520
shows we have some cultural phenomenon shows

01:10:28.520 –> 01:10:31.880
like you know you get into pokemon spongebob

01:10:31.880 –> 01:10:35.439
um you get into stuff like south park dragon

01:10:35.439 –> 01:10:38.960
ball z family guy sailor moon uh some of those

01:10:38.960 –> 01:10:41.020
that are just like you know cultural yeah obviously

01:10:41.020 –> 01:10:43.119
our stuff too transformers and turtles and he

01:10:43.119 –> 01:10:44.960
-man and gi joe and things like that but they’re

01:10:44.960 –> 01:10:46.680
just like we’re had cultural phenomenons they

01:10:46.680 –> 01:10:49.000
became bigger than television right and then

01:10:49.000 –> 01:10:52.359
you had shows that like literally changed television

01:10:52.359 –> 01:10:56.630
so you think of Simpsons, South Park, those things

01:10:56.630 –> 01:10:58.529
changed television. Batman, the animated series

01:10:58.529 –> 01:11:02.210
in many ways. You think of Avatar, Animaniacs,

01:11:02.250 –> 01:11:03.989
Ren and Stimpy Eye, whatever Mike says, it’s

01:11:03.989 –> 01:11:05.590
still something that helped change television.

01:11:05.750 –> 01:11:08.250
Robot Chicken, things of that nature. You had

01:11:08.250 –> 01:11:11.630
superhero animation that got redefined by Batman,

01:11:11.729 –> 01:11:13.310
the animated series, X -Men, the animated series,

01:11:13.470 –> 01:11:15.430
Justice League, Batman Beyond, Spider -Man, the

01:11:15.430 –> 01:11:16.829
animated series, Superman, the animated series,

01:11:17.010 –> 01:11:21.289
etc. Children’s animation that went to new levels

01:11:21.289 –> 01:11:25.689
with a lot of these things. You have shows that

01:11:25.689 –> 01:11:28.149
define their generation. So for baby boomers,

01:11:28.170 –> 01:11:30.510
you have Looney Tunes, Flintstones, Rocking Bullwinkle,

01:11:30.649 –> 01:11:32.869
Yogi Bear, Huckleberry Hound, right? For Gen

01:11:32.869 –> 01:11:35.149
X or whatever you want to call it, you have He

01:11:35.149 –> 01:11:37.930
-Man, Transformers, G .I. Joe, DuckTales, Scooby

01:11:37.930 –> 01:11:40.409
-Doo, Millennials. You have all of the Marvel

01:11:40.409 –> 01:11:42.689
and DC things. You have the Animaniacs, Tiny

01:11:42.689 –> 01:11:45.609
Toons, Rugrats, Pokemon, Dragon Ball Z, SpongeBob.

01:11:45.890 –> 01:11:47.430
And then, you know, for the more modern stuff,

01:11:47.529 –> 01:11:49.409
you have stuff like Avatar, Adventure Time, Gravity

01:11:49.409 –> 01:11:51.090
Falls, Phineas and Ferb, and Rick and Morty.

01:11:52.390 –> 01:11:54.489
You’re speaking to a lot of different things.

01:11:54.569 –> 01:11:56.430
And another thing that’s interesting, and I’ll

01:11:56.430 –> 01:11:59.489
kind of get your guys’ final thoughts, but I

01:11:59.489 –> 01:12:03.069
thought it was interesting that if you look across

01:12:03.069 –> 01:12:08.970
all of the top 100, it is almost a history of

01:12:08.970 –> 01:12:12.170
animated television told through these 100 series.

01:12:12.630 –> 01:12:16.189
So if someone watched all 100 shows that we put

01:12:16.189 –> 01:12:19.510
on our top 100, they would experience the following

01:12:19.510 –> 01:12:23.329
things. The birth of television animation. They

01:12:23.329 –> 01:12:26.970
would experience Saturday morning cartoons. They

01:12:26.970 –> 01:12:30.329
would experience the rise of the syndicated action

01:12:30.329 –> 01:12:33.550
cartoons. They would experience the Disney afternoon

01:12:33.550 –> 01:12:35.390
and the Warner Brothers Renaissance. The rise

01:12:35.390 –> 01:12:37.949
of Nickelodeon. The originals that came out of

01:12:37.949 –> 01:12:40.449
Cartoon Network. Anime’s explosion in the West.

01:12:40.569 –> 01:12:43.710
Superhero animation’s evolution. Rise of adult

01:12:43.710 –> 01:12:47.479
animation and some… Really high quality serialized

01:12:47.479 –> 01:12:49.920
animation, which kind of changed things across

01:12:49.920 –> 01:12:54.119
the industry. So it’s not just a ranking of shows.

01:12:54.180 –> 01:12:57.779
It really accidentally also tells the story of

01:12:57.779 –> 01:13:00.100
how television animation has evolved over nearly

01:13:00.100 –> 01:13:03.359
70 years. We planned it the whole time, folks.

01:13:03.699 –> 01:13:07.399
We did somehow manage to capture all of that.

01:13:07.479 –> 01:13:10.300
Steve, when you look back at kind of what this

01:13:10.300 –> 01:13:12.159
list represents, because I think there was a

01:13:12.159 –> 01:13:14.350
couple important things that came out. And I

01:13:14.350 –> 01:13:17.630
know Dan at one point had said, you know, the

01:13:17.630 –> 01:13:21.189
best cartoons of all time. And that’s one way

01:13:21.189 –> 01:13:23.069
to look at it, right? What are the best cartoons?

01:13:23.470 –> 01:13:25.649
I think I have a different approach. I view it

01:13:25.649 –> 01:13:28.930
as what are the most important cartoons because

01:13:28.930 –> 01:13:31.430
I do put a value in stuff that opened up doors

01:13:31.430 –> 01:13:33.970
or had an impact on the industry or different

01:13:33.970 –> 01:13:36.789
genres and sub genres, et cetera. So everybody

01:13:36.789 –> 01:13:39.010
has a different way of looking at this, but when

01:13:39.010 –> 01:13:41.710
you look overall at, you know, this experience

01:13:41.710 –> 01:13:45.250
and kind of what we crafted here, with the 100

01:13:45.250 –> 01:13:47.810
that we landed on what are your takeaways and

01:13:47.810 –> 01:13:49.850
kind of how do you feel about the project overall

01:13:49.850 –> 01:13:53.630
i i feel like i i learned something new about

01:13:53.630 –> 01:13:56.109
this process every time and and the shows that

01:13:56.109 –> 01:13:59.909
are represented just because uh one i i did make

01:13:59.909 –> 01:14:04.869
the attempt to watch every single show uh this

01:14:04.869 –> 01:14:07.869
time around as opposed to the last time where

01:14:07.869 –> 01:14:12.619
i was like i don’t know Just because I wanted

01:14:12.619 –> 01:14:15.000
to kind of understand it, even if it was like

01:14:15.000 –> 01:14:18.539
animation that I hated or I couldn’t get into

01:14:18.539 –> 01:14:22.619
the art style or the storylines or the voice

01:14:22.619 –> 01:14:26.399
acting or, you know, I tried to give all of them

01:14:26.399 –> 01:14:30.619
a fair shake of at least three episodes just

01:14:30.619 –> 01:14:35.460
to kind of see, you know, what. What the redeeming

01:14:35.460 –> 01:14:40.130
qualities are, what the. behind the shows are,

01:14:40.250 –> 01:14:43.850
why they’re important to animation. Because,

01:14:43.930 –> 01:14:46.869
I mean, if you go through this list, say what

01:14:46.869 –> 01:14:49.630
you will about any of them. Like, I wouldn’t

01:14:49.630 –> 01:14:53.010
say it’s like the ultimate top 100. No, I would

01:14:53.010 –> 01:14:59.029
say it is, as you mentioned, the most memorable

01:14:59.029 –> 01:15:05.430
of the animation. And each one of them revolutionized

01:15:05.430 –> 01:15:08.800
animation in some different way. Like some of

01:15:08.800 –> 01:15:11.859
them brought some specific ounce of something

01:15:11.859 –> 01:15:15.560
to the animation sphere. And I mean, if we didn’t

01:15:15.560 –> 01:15:18.819
have, you know, as it was mentioned, you know,

01:15:18.819 –> 01:15:21.619
Tiny Toons and then leading to, you know, animated

01:15:21.619 –> 01:15:24.640
Batman, the animated series or, you know, Batman,

01:15:24.699 –> 01:15:26.979
the animated series has been kind of the poster

01:15:26.979 –> 01:15:31.039
child for every superhero cartoon since. And

01:15:31.039 –> 01:15:34.659
they’ve just one up certain aspects of it. But

01:15:34.659 –> 01:15:38.439
each one of these shows. has been not only a

01:15:38.439 –> 01:15:40.699
gateway for people getting into animation, but

01:15:40.699 –> 01:15:44.699
it’s also been something different. Like most

01:15:44.699 –> 01:15:47.399
of these, even in the different iterations of

01:15:47.399 –> 01:15:50.819
the shows that are represented here, like Dragon

01:15:50.819 –> 01:15:52.899
Ball to Dragon Ball Z, they’re totally different

01:15:52.899 –> 01:15:55.920
styles and tones, but it’s the same universe.

01:15:56.199 –> 01:16:00.420
You look at Batman, the animated series, and

01:16:00.420 –> 01:16:02.539
Superman, and Justice League, and Batman Beyond,

01:16:02.760 –> 01:16:05.510
they’re all the same universe. different tone

01:16:05.510 –> 01:16:07.810
and style to each one of them you know you look

01:16:07.810 –> 01:16:12.229
at uh like pretty much any of these shows in

01:16:12.229 –> 01:16:15.529
here there’s something different to each one

01:16:15.529 –> 01:16:18.289
but it’s something that causes them to be memorable

01:16:18.289 –> 01:16:24.430
and to stand out and i feel like well yes there

01:16:24.430 –> 01:16:28.409
are a ton of new cartoons all the time most of

01:16:28.409 –> 01:16:30.609
the stuff that’s coming out now i don’t feel

01:16:30.609 –> 01:16:36.340
like has I feel like we hit that that peak in

01:16:36.340 –> 01:16:39.000
the 90s and then it’s been kind of, you know,

01:16:39.000 –> 01:16:41.359
we’ve had the random hits here or there, you

01:16:41.359 –> 01:16:44.880
know, but I feel like that was peak animation.

01:16:44.939 –> 01:16:47.060
And now we’re kind of like on the downward decline

01:16:47.060 –> 01:16:51.079
to where animation is at this like five to six

01:16:51.079 –> 01:16:55.859
minute episode thing where it’s very low entry.

01:16:55.920 –> 01:17:01.039
It’s very like placating to trying to get kids

01:17:01.039 –> 01:17:03.989
to watch it. But I feel like they’ve dumbed them

01:17:03.989 –> 01:17:06.649
down so much that there’s nothing interesting

01:17:06.649 –> 01:17:09.869
to the new stuff. Whereas the old stuff, it was

01:17:09.869 –> 01:17:13.149
not written totally for kids. It was written

01:17:13.149 –> 01:17:15.449
for the people that literally were writing it.

01:17:15.770 –> 01:17:19.810
And they hid things in it, yes. But it wasn’t

01:17:19.810 –> 01:17:22.729
an in -your -face thing that caused the show

01:17:22.729 –> 01:17:28.569
to fall apart based on it. But the show persevered

01:17:28.569 –> 01:17:31.989
and we ended up with… all of this stuff that

01:17:31.989 –> 01:17:36.670
we remember today yeah no i totally agree i i

01:17:36.670 –> 01:17:40.149
did throw this into our list overall and the

01:17:40.149 –> 01:17:43.210
ai and asked it to you know pressure test us

01:17:43.210 –> 01:17:45.409
and tell us how we did and i think it was interesting

01:17:45.409 –> 01:17:47.970
the results that it shot back out it said um

01:17:47.970 –> 01:17:52.710
it said it could tell or based on the top 100

01:17:52.710 –> 01:17:55.689
that voters tried to balance four main criteria

01:17:55.689 –> 01:17:58.829
which was historical importance cultural impact

01:17:58.829 –> 01:18:01.090
artistic quality and then personal affection

01:18:01.090 –> 01:18:03.329
or nostalgia and it says for the most part i

01:18:03.329 –> 01:18:06.550
think that succeeded you know batman being number

01:18:06.550 –> 01:18:09.630
one tells tells told ai that quality mattered

01:18:09.630 –> 01:18:12.710
transformers being in the top 10 told you that

01:18:12.710 –> 01:18:14.890
cultural influence and impact mattered flintstones

01:18:14.890 –> 01:18:16.970
being in the top 10 you know history mattered

01:18:16.970 –> 01:18:19.649
ducktales being in the top five you know nostalgia

01:18:19.649 –> 01:18:22.430
and personal affection wasn’t ignored said you

01:18:22.430 –> 01:18:24.890
know as far as like looking at this overall that

01:18:25.529 –> 01:18:27.970
It not only gave us a snapshot of the history

01:18:27.970 –> 01:18:32.210
of televisions, but it also made it that there

01:18:32.210 –> 01:18:35.250
was an interesting balance between history, artistry,

01:18:35.250 –> 01:18:37.710
influence, cultural footprint, nostalgia, and

01:18:37.710 –> 01:18:40.430
that it didn’t overcorrect or show a bias in

01:18:40.430 –> 01:18:44.090
any one particular way. And where it may not

01:18:44.090 –> 01:18:46.449
be what some people would say is the best cartoons

01:18:46.449 –> 01:18:49.210
list, it is a snapshot of the history of animated

01:18:49.210 –> 01:18:52.640
television and more of a consensus. top 100 which

01:18:52.640 –> 01:18:54.060
i think is a word that came up multiple times

01:18:54.060 –> 01:18:56.220
that we would probably agree with that nobody

01:18:56.220 –> 01:18:59.520
got you know uh an extra boost based on one category

01:18:59.520 –> 01:19:01.520
or the other it was a more of a consensus look

01:19:01.520 –> 01:19:04.859
based on 44 contributors with the various ages

01:19:04.859 –> 01:19:08.159
and and experience and things of that nature

01:19:08.159 –> 01:19:11.880
so i think we struck a good balance of what could

01:19:11.880 –> 01:19:14.520
be seen as a consensus look at like some of the

01:19:14.520 –> 01:19:17.319
most important or most relevant cartoons that

01:19:17.319 –> 01:19:21.560
have defined a history of animation so i’m pleasantly

01:19:21.560 –> 01:19:23.680
surprised with how this uh this went mike any

01:19:23.680 –> 01:19:28.460
other thought i think i’m good well that’s all

01:19:28.460 –> 01:19:31.420
we have if you have more questions about this

01:19:31.420 –> 01:19:33.760
countdown and things like that mike will give

01:19:33.760 –> 01:19:35.399
you more information on how you can reach out

01:19:35.399 –> 01:19:37.539
to us and do stuff like that and and some maybe

01:19:37.539 –> 01:19:41.140
some teases along the way mike we got a teaser

01:19:41.140 –> 01:19:43.800
for you folks we’ve been talking behind the scenes

01:19:43.800 –> 01:19:46.699
and i did a little math and a little other things

01:19:46.699 –> 01:19:50.949
uh around here behind the scenes and i found

01:19:50.949 –> 01:19:56.630
out that uh 10 years ago in 2017 because i have

01:19:56.630 –> 01:20:01.350
a a master list in a different document because

01:20:01.350 –> 01:20:05.149
i keep track of all the top 100s we do and we’ve

01:20:05.149 –> 01:20:08.050
done nine of these as i mentioned earlier in

01:20:08.050 –> 01:20:13.369
the show and our 10th top 100 countdown will

01:20:13.369 –> 01:20:17.859
be coming up in the summer of 2027 and i looked

01:20:17.859 –> 01:20:21.680
at all the ones we did before and in 2017 we

01:20:21.680 –> 01:20:27.159
did a top 100 countdown that was very very evil

01:20:27.159 –> 01:20:31.760
because we did the top 100 villains and i talked

01:20:31.760 –> 01:20:35.800
to steve and i talked to kevin and i’m like what

01:20:35.800 –> 01:20:42.550
if we did something heroic let’s be heroes And

01:20:42.550 –> 01:20:44.430
we talked about it and we talked about it and

01:20:44.430 –> 01:20:47.630
we’re going to do it in the same way we did this

01:20:47.630 –> 01:20:52.090
one. We’re going to do nominations like we did

01:20:52.090 –> 01:20:54.949
with this. And then where you guys get to vote.

01:20:55.010 –> 01:20:57.930
So there’ll be nomination episodes and then there’ll

01:20:57.930 –> 01:21:02.050
be the countdown. So in the summer of 2027 coming

01:21:02.050 –> 01:21:05.829
up, the top 100 geek cast radio network, top

01:21:05.829 –> 01:21:12.500
100 heroes is coming soon. Anything you’d like

01:21:12.500 –> 01:21:15.000
to say, Steve, before I run through the outro?

01:21:17.279 –> 01:21:21.699
No, I think I hear a voice or anything. I know

01:21:21.699 –> 01:21:27.039
you usually do villains, but. Yeah, I don’t have

01:21:27.039 –> 01:21:28.899
any heroes off the top of my head right now.

01:21:30.000 –> 01:21:32.460
That would be interesting to hear a hero side

01:21:32.460 –> 01:21:38.600
of Beast Wars Megatron. Shattered glass. Oh,

01:21:38.840 –> 01:21:47.119
yeah. Work on that. oh damn i don’t even know

01:21:47.119 –> 01:21:49.579
what colors you would be oh wow that that’s a

01:21:49.579 –> 01:21:52.079
whole idea that’s a whole thing for next time

01:21:52.079 –> 01:21:58.180
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