add_action('wp_head', function () { echo '' . "\n"; }, 5);
Background
Top 100 Podart (2026 1)

The Top 100 Animated Series: 100-76 | Part 2 – The 15th Anniversary Countdown

Top 100 Podart (2026 1)
GeekCast Radio™
GeekCast Radio™
Transcript arrow_drop_down

Transcript

GeekCast Radio™
GeekCast Radio™
The Top 100 Animated Series: 100-76 | Part 2 - The 15th Anniversary Countdown
Loading
/

The wait is over! In the official premiere of The GeekCast Radio Network’s Top 100 Animated Series 15th Anniversary Edition, host Steve Megatron kicks off the countdown alongside TFG1Mike and the master of the list himself, OptimusSolo. With over 40 contributors and a decade and a half of history behind us, this is the most diverse and unpredictable ranking we have ever produced.

As we dive into shows 100 through 76, the landscape is already shifting. Some nostalgic classics that once dominated the list have been dethroned, while new contenders and fresh perspectives have pushed their way into the Top 100 for the first time. From early morning favorites to prime-time animation powerhouses, we are breaking down the “nerd data,” the upsets, and the shows that barely survived the cut. If you think you’ve predicted the #1 spot, think again—the 2026 edition is full of surprises!

What you’ll get out of this episode:

  • The official reveal of numbers 100-76 on the 2026 all-time list.
  • Analysis of the shifting demographics: How 40+ contributors changed the ranking from 2011.
  • A first look at the “Nostalgia vs. Quality” debate as older shows fight to stay relevant.
  • Steve, Mike, and Kevin’s live reactions to the first 25 shows are revealed.
WEBVTT

00:00:00.000 –> 00:00:03.279
This is Neil Ross, and you are listening to the

00:00:03.279 –> 00:00:07.780
Geekcast Radio Network. It’s time. The countdown

00:00:07.780 –> 00:00:34.920
begins. The Geekcast Radio Network Top 100 Animated

00:00:34.920 –> 00:00:38.840
Series Countdown! Hello and welcome to The Geekcast

00:00:38.840 –> 00:00:43.439
Radio Network’s Top 100 Animated Series 15th

00:00:43.439 –> 00:00:46.939
Anniversary 2026 Edition. I’m your host, Steve

00:00:46.939 –> 00:00:50.219
Megatron, and joining me in this animated foray

00:00:50.219 –> 00:00:59.799
are TFG and Mike. Hello. And Optimus Solo. This

00:00:59.799 –> 00:01:02.579
year’s countdown is shaping up to be possibly

00:01:02.579 –> 00:01:05.959
the most unpredictable one we’ve ever assembled

00:01:05.959 –> 00:01:09.840
based on our intro episode alone. With over 40

00:01:09.840 –> 00:01:13.260
submissions, new tunes, and a wider age demographic

00:01:13.260 –> 00:01:16.859
than any previous list, well, the results are

00:01:16.859 –> 00:01:20.480
going to be anything but predictable. Some shows

00:01:20.480 –> 00:01:23.459
that didn’t get a single vote last time, suddenly

00:01:23.459 –> 00:01:26.319
gone, while others that were present on the old

00:01:26.319 –> 00:01:29.709
nostalgic list… barely cracked the top 100

00:01:29.709 –> 00:01:33.489
by hitting the 110 to 101 range this time around.

00:01:34.390 –> 00:01:38.390
So with all of these new contenders, fresh perspectives,

00:01:38.450 –> 00:01:40.310
and let’s be honest, more than a few potential

00:01:40.310 –> 00:01:44.150
upsets waiting to happen, and a lot of probably

00:01:44.150 –> 00:01:46.969
upset nerds in the comment section, including

00:01:46.969 –> 00:01:49.829
those on the panel, the combination of longtime

00:01:49.829 –> 00:01:52.049
fans, new voices, and even a bit of celebrity

00:01:52.049 –> 00:01:54.790
input means that this list is going to hit deep.

00:01:55.239 –> 00:01:58.180
surprise more often, and spark more debate than

00:01:58.180 –> 00:02:01.340
ever before. So trust us if you think you know

00:02:01.340 –> 00:02:03.000
what’s coming and taking the number one spot.

00:02:03.159 –> 00:02:06.500
You really don’t. Obviously coming from someone

00:02:06.500 –> 00:02:09.099
who hasn’t even seen the list yet. So with that,

00:02:09.139 –> 00:02:13.000
take it away, Optimus Solo. Yes, that’s a perfect

00:02:13.000 –> 00:02:15.900
intro to what we have in store. I do want to

00:02:15.900 –> 00:02:18.639
peel back the curtain just a little bit here

00:02:18.639 –> 00:02:21.080
at the beginning. I guess it’s a little inside

00:02:21.080 –> 00:02:23.659
baseball or whatever phrase you want to use.

00:02:25.089 –> 00:02:27.650
but obviously folks can’t see us. This is not

00:02:27.650 –> 00:02:30.129
a video version. And even if they could see us,

00:02:30.189 –> 00:02:32.229
they would not be able to see my screen. And

00:02:32.229 –> 00:02:35.469
I just want to give people a little bit of information

00:02:35.469 –> 00:02:39.490
on what I’m looking at, just because it may get

00:02:39.490 –> 00:02:41.250
me out of trouble. If I’m ever like stumbling

00:02:41.250 –> 00:02:44.330
over my words or fumbling through things or this,

00:02:44.389 –> 00:02:46.330
that, and the other. And I also want to talk

00:02:46.330 –> 00:02:48.050
about something that I’m not going to do this

00:02:48.050 –> 00:02:50.069
time around that we have done in previous top

00:02:50.069 –> 00:02:52.449
100s, just because you’ll understand why in a

00:02:52.449 –> 00:02:55.819
minute. So I have. multiple screens open here

00:02:55.819 –> 00:03:01.419
i have uh multiple excel database sheets and

00:03:01.419 –> 00:03:04.139
spreadsheets i have some internet pages open

00:03:04.139 –> 00:03:05.900
not so much that it’s going to bog down the record

00:03:05.900 –> 00:03:07.199
or anything like that but i got a lot of stuff

00:03:07.199 –> 00:03:10.740
open and the main sheet that i’m looking at consists

00:03:10.740 –> 00:03:16.479
of a lot of information so i have the top 100

00:03:16.479 –> 00:03:19.039
list right so i have the numbers that we’re going

00:03:19.039 –> 00:03:21.240
to reveal here 100 through 76 i have the show

00:03:21.240 –> 00:03:24.879
names I have how many points they garnered. I

00:03:24.879 –> 00:03:27.740
have how many lists they appeared on. I have

00:03:27.740 –> 00:03:30.699
how much they increased or decreased their spot

00:03:30.699 –> 00:03:34.219
from 15 years ago, or if they were even on the

00:03:34.219 –> 00:03:39.979
list or got votes 15 years ago. I have the average

00:03:39.979 –> 00:03:42.680
that it got ranked. If you take just the people

00:03:42.680 –> 00:03:45.280
that voted for it, what it would have averaged

00:03:45.280 –> 00:03:51.090
just based on those lists. I also have… what

00:03:51.090 –> 00:03:54.069
spot it was on the last list. I have what company

00:03:54.069 –> 00:03:55.830
produced it. I have what channel it aired on.

00:03:55.870 –> 00:03:58.770
I have what year it debuted. I have how many

00:03:58.770 –> 00:04:01.430
episodes it was on, how many awards it got nominated

00:04:01.430 –> 00:04:04.150
for, how many of the nine lists that we kind

00:04:04.150 –> 00:04:05.729
of looked as we were trying to pressure test

00:04:05.729 –> 00:04:09.650
this they exist on. Then I have some sub -rankings

00:04:09.650 –> 00:04:12.210
of like each time period, each channel, each

00:04:12.210 –> 00:04:17.329
production company as it breaks down just for

00:04:17.329 –> 00:04:20.699
this set of 25. He’s a baseball statistician

00:04:20.699 –> 00:04:24.839
for all stuff. And so we’ll be given a lot of

00:04:24.839 –> 00:04:28.040
information out over the course. And one thing

00:04:28.040 –> 00:04:29.939
that I’ve done in the past that we’re not going

00:04:29.939 –> 00:04:33.180
to do this time is I do not, the one piece of

00:04:33.180 –> 00:04:34.800
information I do not have, I’m sorry. It’s just

00:04:34.800 –> 00:04:38.079
not something I wanted to take on is in the past,

00:04:38.199 –> 00:04:39.839
especially like the first time we did this round,

00:04:39.959 –> 00:04:43.259
I knew exactly where every contributor had each

00:04:43.259 –> 00:04:47.199
show ranked. Okay. So I could say like, You know,

00:04:47.240 –> 00:04:50.180
Steve and Mike and myself had this in the 20s.

00:04:50.180 –> 00:04:51.800
Such and such was the highest rank. They had

00:04:51.800 –> 00:04:53.860
this at 13, et cetera, et cetera. There’s 44

00:04:53.860 –> 00:04:58.079
people. I don’t have that. It’s not worth it.

00:04:58.420 –> 00:05:01.800
Yeah, I do have if it showed up at number one

00:05:01.800 –> 00:05:04.540
on somebody’s list. And if so, how many people

00:05:04.540 –> 00:05:06.920
had it at number one? That’s as much as you’re

00:05:06.920 –> 00:05:09.100
going to get revealed from the contributors list.

00:05:09.180 –> 00:05:11.540
We can do more revealing of contributor stuff

00:05:11.540 –> 00:05:13.720
in the wrap up at the end. Yeah, that’s fine.

00:05:13.899 –> 00:05:18.050
That’s more than fine. I mean, sounds like you

00:05:18.050 –> 00:05:23.209
have an entire bat cave of Dark Knight screens

00:05:23.209 –> 00:05:27.750
in front of you. I could scroll over on my spreadsheet

00:05:27.750 –> 00:05:30.269
and then there’s the old top 100 list from 15

00:05:30.269 –> 00:05:34.350
years ago. And then there’s another chart that

00:05:34.350 –> 00:05:36.170
has just the new shows that made it this time

00:05:36.170 –> 00:05:38.269
that didn’t last time. Then there’s another chart

00:05:38.269 –> 00:05:39.949
that has the shows that were on it last time

00:05:39.949 –> 00:05:41.740
that aren’t on it this time. There’s a lot of

00:05:41.740 –> 00:05:44.699
stuff. You’re not even doing math in my head

00:05:44.699 –> 00:05:47.180
already hurts. That’s just one tab. There’s actually

00:05:47.180 –> 00:05:49.199
like six tabs on this spreadsheet. I’m not even

00:05:49.199 –> 00:05:51.019
going to go into the other ones. All right. So

00:05:51.019 –> 00:05:53.899
that’s what we have against us today. And we’re

00:05:53.899 –> 00:05:55.980
going to start with that first set of 25. So

00:05:55.980 –> 00:05:58.540
we’re going to reveal live on the record numbers

00:05:58.540 –> 00:06:01.120
100 through 76. Steve and Mike do not know what’s

00:06:01.120 –> 00:06:04.350
coming. So there will be live reactions. We should

00:06:04.350 –> 00:06:06.389
be somewhat better prepared than we were 15 years

00:06:06.389 –> 00:06:08.129
ago, like we said in the intro episode, because

00:06:08.129 –> 00:06:11.290
all of us know which shows were on the 264 nominee

00:06:11.290 –> 00:06:13.990
list. So it’s not like we’re going to get something

00:06:13.990 –> 00:06:16.490
completely out of left field that we’ve not discussed

00:06:16.490 –> 00:06:18.730
in the last six months while we did all of those

00:06:18.730 –> 00:06:21.649
nomination records or nomination reveal records.

00:06:21.870 –> 00:06:23.889
So there may be some things that still surprise

00:06:23.889 –> 00:06:26.810
them, but they’re not going to be something that’s

00:06:26.810 –> 00:06:29.389
like, hey, remember when we didn’t talk at all

00:06:29.389 –> 00:06:31.149
about this one show? Like, that’s not going to

00:06:31.149 –> 00:06:34.680
happen. And again, folks, I will say before we

00:06:34.680 –> 00:06:38.420
kick this off, if you have not listened to the

00:06:38.420 –> 00:06:42.420
nomination process episodes, please go listen

00:06:42.420 –> 00:06:45.399
to those. We put a lot of work into those because

00:06:45.399 –> 00:06:49.819
that’s part of this whole experiment this time

00:06:49.819 –> 00:06:53.600
around and how we did this. And to piggyback

00:06:53.600 –> 00:06:56.639
off of that, you’ll get more of our mentality

00:06:56.639 –> 00:07:00.120
and the thoughts behind the list by listening

00:07:00.120 –> 00:07:04.129
to those episodes. Exactly. And I will try to

00:07:04.129 –> 00:07:06.649
do my best for each show that comes up. Like

00:07:06.649 –> 00:07:09.329
we will have a multiple discussions, right? We

00:07:09.329 –> 00:07:11.810
will have the discussion come up of does it belong

00:07:11.810 –> 00:07:13.889
in the top 100 or not, especially more so in

00:07:13.889 –> 00:07:16.269
this episode and maybe the next episode. That’s

00:07:16.269 –> 00:07:18.149
when you usually get the conversations on does

00:07:18.149 –> 00:07:21.389
it belong or not. In the other episodes, when

00:07:21.389 –> 00:07:23.290
we start talking about not the top 50, those

00:07:23.290 –> 00:07:25.850
discussions usually go away. It’s no longer about

00:07:25.850 –> 00:07:28.449
do they belong or do they not? It’s about higher

00:07:28.449 –> 00:07:31.939
or do they belong lower? Yeah. So we will have

00:07:31.939 –> 00:07:35.259
those conversations, but I feel like I can at

00:07:35.259 –> 00:07:41.139
least try to play the role of giving the argument

00:07:41.139 –> 00:07:45.139
for why each of these 25, the argument that some

00:07:45.139 –> 00:07:47.300
people would make, the three of us might disagree.

00:07:47.439 –> 00:07:48.839
The three of us might say, we don’t think this

00:07:48.839 –> 00:07:51.399
one belongs, but I will at least try to give

00:07:51.399 –> 00:07:54.680
the, the rationale for why somebody would make

00:07:54.680 –> 00:07:56.540
a case for each of these shows. And then we’ll

00:07:56.540 –> 00:07:58.579
have to decide if we agree or disagree with it.

00:07:58.639 –> 00:08:00.259
The other thing I would like to point out is

00:08:00.259 –> 00:08:03.160
if, You’ve never listened to any of our top 100

00:08:03.160 –> 00:08:08.160
countdowns before. The intro episode is kind

00:08:08.160 –> 00:08:09.759
of a standard length. The wrap -up episode is

00:08:09.759 –> 00:08:11.439
kind of a standard length. But for these episode

00:08:11.439 –> 00:08:13.399
reveals, when we do these 25 shows, you might

00:08:13.399 –> 00:08:15.500
as well buckle up, get yourself something to

00:08:15.500 –> 00:08:20.420
drink, and sit back because we do spend some

00:08:20.420 –> 00:08:24.740
time on these. Yeah, we do. These 100 through

00:08:24.740 –> 00:08:29.100
76, 75 to… 51 50 to 26 and then especially

00:08:29.100 –> 00:08:35.259
25 to one number one i would say range from two

00:08:35.259 –> 00:08:38.200
hours 15 minutes to just over three hours 30

00:08:38.200 –> 00:08:41.379
minutes we’ll see what happens this time that’s

00:08:41.379 –> 00:08:43.519
just based on history and what how these have

00:08:43.519 –> 00:08:47.360
kind of gone right exactly all right well you

00:08:47.360 –> 00:08:49.460
also want to mention uh do you want to mention

00:08:49.460 –> 00:08:51.899
the fact that we have a numerous amount of ties

00:08:51.899 –> 00:08:55.330
here Or did you want to save that? We are going

00:08:55.330 –> 00:08:58.149
to have six ties over the course of the top 100,

00:08:58.309 –> 00:09:00.669
and half of those will come in today’s episode.

00:09:01.090 –> 00:09:03.470
So we’re going to try something different today

00:09:03.470 –> 00:09:06.210
and debate the placement of each of those on

00:09:06.210 –> 00:09:07.710
air. There’s three of us, so there should be

00:09:07.710 –> 00:09:09.250
an odd number of votes. So that means we can

00:09:09.250 –> 00:09:11.769
kind of pick and choose which ones get those

00:09:11.769 –> 00:09:13.769
specific spots. And if it’s a train wreck, I

00:09:13.769 –> 00:09:16.070
apologize, and we’ll call an audible for the

00:09:16.070 –> 00:09:19.070
next episode. Actually, we won’t have another

00:09:19.070 –> 00:09:22.830
tie until the top 50. We’ll have three in this

00:09:22.830 –> 00:09:26.230
episode, none in the second episode, and then

00:09:26.230 –> 00:09:29.309
we’ll have two in the top 50 episode and one

00:09:29.309 –> 00:09:32.909
in the top 25 episode. All right. So any questions

00:09:32.909 –> 00:09:34.909
or comments before we start revealing, Mike?

00:09:35.970 –> 00:09:40.149
Don’t think so. Steve? I don’t have any either.

00:09:40.610 –> 00:09:44.710
All right. Let’s get into it then. 100. Look

00:09:44.710 –> 00:09:46.629
at those clouds up there. They’re beautiful.

00:09:46.850 –> 00:09:50.000
And it’s a perfect day for a drive. Aw, Trixie,

00:09:50.000 –> 00:09:51.720
please stop talking. I’m trying to figure something

00:09:51.720 –> 00:10:04.759
out. Oh! He’s going over that cliff! 99. A battle

00:10:04.759 –> 00:10:07.559
for our planet’s survival was on, and young Rick

00:10:07.559 –> 00:10:14.110
Hunter found himself caught up in the war. All

00:10:14.110 –> 00:10:17.509
right. As we teased in the last episode, we are

00:10:17.509 –> 00:10:20.250
starting the entire countdown off with a tie.

00:10:20.549 –> 00:10:23.029
And I find this humorous because I can see which

00:10:23.029 –> 00:10:25.529
two shows are tied. And I think it’s going to

00:10:25.529 –> 00:10:28.090
be a fun little interesting debate on which one

00:10:28.090 –> 00:10:30.570
takes the 100 spot and which one takes the 99

00:10:30.570 –> 00:10:33.789
spot. But they are definitely related in a way.

00:10:34.230 –> 00:10:37.769
So the two shows that we need to debate right

00:10:37.769 –> 00:10:39.710
now on which one gets 100 and which one gets

00:10:39.710 –> 00:10:44.429
99, they both scored 762 points. One was on 13

00:10:44.429 –> 00:10:47.730
lists. The other was on 15 lists. One, we did

00:10:47.730 –> 00:10:50.090
not rank at all last time around, even though

00:10:50.090 –> 00:10:53.809
it was eligible. And one has fallen two spots

00:10:53.809 –> 00:10:56.710
from its original ranking 15 years ago. So it’s

00:10:56.710 –> 00:10:58.809
going from, well, or one, depending on how this

00:10:58.809 –> 00:11:01.970
tie breaks ends up, because it was 98 last time

00:11:01.970 –> 00:11:03.809
around, and it’s going to be either 99 or 100

00:11:03.809 –> 00:11:08.309
this time. So one of them is from 1967. The other

00:11:08.309 –> 00:11:11.870
is from 1985. We need to debate the merits and

00:11:11.870 –> 00:11:18.019
decide. The order for Speed Racer from 1967 and

00:11:18.019 –> 00:11:25.159
Robotech from 1985. So Speed Racer, I’ll just

00:11:25.159 –> 00:11:27.500
go quick and then I’ll let Steve and Mike decide

00:11:27.500 –> 00:11:30.179
on what they think of these two and in what order

00:11:30.179 –> 00:11:32.639
we should go in them. Speed Racer is obviously

00:11:32.639 –> 00:11:36.799
a very early anime entry into for the US audience.

00:11:37.019 –> 00:11:40.200
We’re talking about 1967. kind of like a gateway

00:11:40.200 –> 00:11:43.600
show to anime and it probably has a lot of historical

00:11:43.600 –> 00:11:49.080
merit maybe not as much like entertainment quality

00:11:49.080 –> 00:11:54.179
like overall goodness but historical importance

00:11:54.179 –> 00:11:58.659
robotech kind of introduced a different way it’s

00:11:58.659 –> 00:12:01.700
still anime you could still consider it a gateway

00:12:01.700 –> 00:12:05.059
anime show but what this did in the 1980s was

00:12:05.059 –> 00:12:08.419
kind of flip the script a little bit because

00:12:08.419 –> 00:12:10.940
not only was it also introducing anime to some

00:12:10.940 –> 00:12:14.799
folks but in a decade that was much more about

00:12:14.799 –> 00:12:19.659
serialized or not non -serialized content this

00:12:19.659 –> 00:12:23.759
was a serialized storytelling cartoon so up until

00:12:23.759 –> 00:12:25.779
that point we got you know episodes of the week

00:12:25.779 –> 00:12:28.799
and and there was not much continuity and robotech

00:12:28.799 –> 00:12:31.860
kind of did something different for the u .s

00:12:31.860 –> 00:12:34.700
audiences here in 1985 steve what do you think

00:12:34.700 –> 00:12:36.879
of the merits of these two and which one would

00:12:36.879 –> 00:12:43.220
you rank higher so i i remember watching these

00:12:43.220 –> 00:12:49.019
late at night as a as a young teenager and honestly

00:12:49.019 –> 00:12:52.919
like they they both have their own individual

00:12:52.919 –> 00:12:56.299
charm they both have their individual things

00:12:56.299 –> 00:12:58.679
that they kind of did for animation you know

00:12:58.679 –> 00:13:00.519
especially with speed racer being kind of that

00:13:00.519 –> 00:13:04.620
initial kind of jump into the you know the anime

00:13:04.620 –> 00:13:09.460
then you get the theme song you get the fact

00:13:09.460 –> 00:13:13.500
that you know the Mach 5 and you know just everything

00:13:13.500 –> 00:13:20.019
about that after a while I found Speed Racer

00:13:20.019 –> 00:13:25.000
to be very grating to watch the voice acting

00:13:25.000 –> 00:13:28.080
was fine the I mean it wasn’t stellar either

00:13:28.080 –> 00:13:31.549
but The characters were kind of annoying to some

00:13:31.549 –> 00:13:35.870
degree. They both share a very similar aesthetic

00:13:35.870 –> 00:13:39.370
as far as the people are concerned. Even though

00:13:39.370 –> 00:13:43.629
they’re 20 years apart. Although Robotech has

00:13:43.629 –> 00:13:46.610
more of that polished look. Kind of the look

00:13:46.610 –> 00:13:49.610
that they gave some of the later Transformers

00:13:49.610 –> 00:13:52.629
series that never made it over to America. And

00:13:52.629 –> 00:13:58.259
between the two… Speed Racer has that longevity

00:13:58.259 –> 00:14:00.179
that you kind of just know what it is and they

00:14:00.179 –> 00:14:02.220
tried to make a film of it and it was terrible.

00:14:05.019 –> 00:14:07.899
Robotech, as far as I can recall, they’ve only

00:14:07.899 –> 00:14:10.120
done animation with it. They’ve done some video

00:14:10.120 –> 00:14:14.960
games. They’ve tried to kind of do different

00:14:14.960 –> 00:14:17.899
things with it with different films, animated

00:14:17.899 –> 00:14:22.500
films. I honestly liked it just because we got…

00:14:23.240 –> 00:14:26.019
transforming you know kind of mechs that you’re

00:14:26.019 –> 00:14:30.600
able to have them pilot uh it’s a little bit

00:14:30.600 –> 00:14:35.379
darker it has i don’t know i i actually read

00:14:35.379 –> 00:14:37.299
some and i can’t remember them now but i read

00:14:37.299 –> 00:14:40.039
some robotech books like back when i was like

00:14:40.039 –> 00:14:45.500
11 or 12 and i just remember enjoying them so

00:14:45.500 –> 00:14:50.860
i i for me i’m gonna vote robotech as the superior

00:14:50.860 –> 00:14:54.120
show out of these two I understand that people

00:14:54.120 –> 00:14:55.419
are going to like one more than the other, but

00:14:55.419 –> 00:14:57.440
I honestly think that Robotech kind of has that.

00:14:58.879 –> 00:15:03.399
Even though it started in the 80s, it’s still,

00:15:03.559 –> 00:15:08.000
they’ve still released content even into the,

00:15:08.059 –> 00:15:12.940
you know, 20 teens and tried to bring it about

00:15:12.940 –> 00:15:17.240
with video games and card games and everything

00:15:17.240 –> 00:15:19.500
else. I think it’s interesting because I think,

00:15:19.500 –> 00:15:22.529
you know, like the Speed Racer, important versus

00:15:22.529 –> 00:15:24.370
enjoyable. And like you said, it’s, it can be

00:15:24.370 –> 00:15:26.070
great. And if you could like try to watch a bunch

00:15:26.070 –> 00:15:29.490
of it today, do you just like say, well, the

00:15:29.490 –> 00:15:32.169
important part outweighs it or does the, the,

00:15:32.230 –> 00:15:34.529
the lack of enjoyability that you get from watching

00:15:34.529 –> 00:15:36.570
it, bring it down. And then Robotech is kind

00:15:36.570 –> 00:15:39.669
of, I guess some people call it like a Frankenstein

00:15:39.669 –> 00:15:42.149
of, of a cartoon show because it is pretty much

00:15:42.149 –> 00:15:44.110
a combination of a lot of different things that

00:15:44.110 –> 00:15:45.970
was happening that kind of got brought together

00:15:45.970 –> 00:15:49.909
for a U S audience. So it’s interesting, but

00:15:49.909 –> 00:15:53.700
I, I think, you know, Mike, you mentioned in

00:15:53.700 –> 00:15:56.419
the intro episode that we might get some science

00:15:56.419 –> 00:15:59.980
fiction and some robot related stuff and things

00:15:59.980 –> 00:16:02.480
like that. And we’re starting exactly in that

00:16:02.480 –> 00:16:05.419
kind of space. So for you, how does it come down

00:16:05.419 –> 00:16:10.100
to Speed Racer and Robotech? So in the lead up

00:16:10.100 –> 00:16:13.659
to all of this, in our however many months long

00:16:13.659 –> 00:16:16.159
that it took us to plan this whole thing, to

00:16:16.159 –> 00:16:24.570
get where we are to today, R2, D2. huh uh i that’s

00:16:24.570 –> 00:16:28.070
the astromech at robotech yeah i know i watched

00:16:28.070 –> 00:16:31.289
a lot of stuff that i’ve never seen before and

00:16:31.289 –> 00:16:35.269
speed racer and robotech were two of the things

00:16:35.269 –> 00:16:38.970
that i had seen here there kind of thing i’ve

00:16:38.970 –> 00:16:42.049
seen them in past yeah i’ve never really i never

00:16:42.049 –> 00:16:45.110
really sought those out i it was just neither

00:16:45.110 –> 00:16:48.730
one of them were real like When you mentioned

00:16:48.730 –> 00:16:51.629
Speed Racer to me, I know what it is and I had

00:16:51.629 –> 00:16:54.529
seen what it was, but I’m more speed buggy than

00:16:54.529 –> 00:17:01.350
I am Speed Racer. I’m more sputtering speed buggy

00:17:01.350 –> 00:17:04.029
than I am Speed Racer. So I went and I because

00:17:04.029 –> 00:17:07.009
again, part of the part of this project for me

00:17:07.009 –> 00:17:10.869
was seeking out the stuff that I had never seen

00:17:10.869 –> 00:17:15.130
before or rewatching things and trying to. give

00:17:15.130 –> 00:17:18.069
them a better fair shake than i did the first

00:17:18.069 –> 00:17:22.170
time around 15 years ago i still hate family

00:17:22.170 –> 00:17:25.329
guy for the most part anyway i’ll forgive you

00:17:25.329 –> 00:17:33.369
yeah whatever anyway uh but yeah i i gotta go

00:17:33.369 –> 00:17:37.829
with robotech robotech was cooler it was more

00:17:37.829 –> 00:17:40.569
interesting even though it was going up against

00:17:40.569 –> 00:17:45.359
aliens It was still more interesting to me than

00:17:45.359 –> 00:17:48.759
Speed Racer. Robotech definitely fared better

00:17:48.759 –> 00:17:51.859
15 years ago. So like I said, last time we did

00:17:51.859 –> 00:17:54.299
this countdown, Robotech was at the number 98

00:17:54.299 –> 00:17:58.559
spot. Speed Racer may make the case for the biggest

00:17:58.559 –> 00:18:01.640
jump that we’re going to see in this entire countdown.

00:18:02.079 –> 00:18:07.279
Because Speed Racer 15 years ago came in at 349th

00:18:07.279 –> 00:18:11.839
place. Wow. And it now is climbing into what

00:18:11.839 –> 00:18:15.200
appears to be the 100th spot here because you

00:18:15.200 –> 00:18:17.619
two have both said Robotech, which is the way

00:18:17.619 –> 00:18:20.819
I would have gone as well. So we have Speed Racer

00:18:20.819 –> 00:18:25.059
at number 100. So from 349 to 100, and then Robotech

00:18:25.059 –> 00:18:29.799
goes from 98 to 99. So that is where we start

00:18:29.799 –> 00:18:33.180
today. One humongous jump and one change of one

00:18:33.180 –> 00:18:36.859
spot. Nice. We see both ends of the spectrum.

00:18:38.170 –> 00:18:39.650
It’s an interesting start. Let’s see where we

00:18:39.650 –> 00:18:43.109
go from here. 98. Daddy has a lot of work to

00:18:43.109 –> 00:18:48.450
do. Bye -bye. Full Metal Alchemist. Well, we’re

00:18:48.450 –> 00:18:50.549
not going to go too far, I guess, in one respect

00:18:50.549 –> 00:18:54.009
for our number 98. Although time period, we are

00:18:54.009 –> 00:18:56.809
jumping a little bit. So we went from 1967 with

00:18:56.809 –> 00:19:00.609
Speed Racer to 1985 with Robotech. And let’s

00:19:00.609 –> 00:19:05.359
go on into the 2000s, 2003 specifically. for

00:19:05.359 –> 00:19:09.579
this show that did not appear on the original

00:19:09.579 –> 00:19:13.759
countdown because it didn’t didn’t exist or barely

00:19:13.759 –> 00:19:16.700
existed at that point um and we’re gonna keep

00:19:16.700 –> 00:19:19.519
it though with the uh the theme of some anime

00:19:19.519 –> 00:19:22.359
to start off our countdown so let’s go with full

00:19:22.359 –> 00:19:28.920
metal alchemist for our number 98 spot now this

00:19:28.920 –> 00:19:32.039
is one that’s interesting because it’s also kind

00:19:32.039 –> 00:19:36.440
of a First foray into shows that have had multiple

00:19:36.440 –> 00:19:40.079
incarnations or variations or spinoffs or sequels,

00:19:40.079 –> 00:19:42.400
reboots, whatever you want to call it, which

00:19:42.400 –> 00:19:45.380
always brings up the discussion point as we go

00:19:45.380 –> 00:19:48.500
through these countdowns of when that happens.

00:19:49.440 –> 00:19:51.839
Is it harder for a show because you split your

00:19:51.839 –> 00:19:54.140
vote between some of the different versions of

00:19:54.140 –> 00:19:56.099
it and you only vote for one versus the others?

00:19:56.460 –> 00:19:58.680
Or how does that affect things? It’s kind of

00:19:58.680 –> 00:20:00.579
interesting when it comes to that. It is widely

00:20:00.579 –> 00:20:03.920
respected, though, in the world of anime. So,

00:20:03.920 –> 00:20:05.900
Mike, what do you think? We have three animes

00:20:05.900 –> 00:20:09.140
here in a row and we’re jumping decades at a

00:20:09.140 –> 00:20:11.180
time. So we’re at Fullmetal Alchemist here with

00:20:11.180 –> 00:20:16.759
number 98. I think this list is way more interesting

00:20:16.759 –> 00:20:19.119
at this point compared to the old one when it

00:20:19.119 –> 00:20:24.700
comes to the anime representation. I even though

00:20:24.700 –> 00:20:27.160
I already said so far that I tried going back

00:20:27.160 –> 00:20:30.640
and watching some of the stuff. Some of this

00:20:30.640 –> 00:20:33.740
stuff was hard for me to find on legal channels

00:20:33.740 –> 00:20:37.740
that I didn’t really have to purchase like or

00:20:37.740 –> 00:20:41.559
finding good quality versions of stuff like on

00:20:41.559 –> 00:20:45.019
YouTube and things like that. And I just never

00:20:45.019 –> 00:20:47.480
could get into Full Metal Alchemist. So I haven’t

00:20:47.480 –> 00:20:50.460
seen a lot of this show. Sorry. Also, our first

00:20:50.460 –> 00:20:52.940
entrance or entrance that originally debuted

00:20:52.940 –> 00:20:56.670
on Adult Swim, I think here in the US. Steve,

00:20:56.769 –> 00:20:59.369
from an anime standpoint, we already teased one

00:20:59.369 –> 00:21:02.009
of them in our introduction episode because Neon

00:21:02.009 –> 00:21:04.569
Genesis Evangelion has already fallen. It was

00:21:04.569 –> 00:21:07.650
107. Now we get Robotech Speed Racer and Full

00:21:07.650 –> 00:21:10.529
Metal. Is that a good sign for anime or a bad

00:21:10.529 –> 00:21:13.849
sign for anime? I mean, the fact that it made

00:21:13.849 –> 00:21:16.450
the list to begin with is a good thing for anime.

00:21:17.150 –> 00:21:22.180
Yes, this one is very critically acclaimed. as

00:21:22.180 –> 00:21:25.900
a manga series, as well as its iteration here.

00:21:27.579 –> 00:21:32.140
I wonder… I’m sure we’re going to get hate

00:21:32.140 –> 00:21:35.119
for this one, just because of the nature of it.

00:21:35.279 –> 00:21:41.839
I do know that it has a certain audience. It’s

00:21:41.839 –> 00:21:49.599
not one that I’ve put on my list, but it’s also

00:21:49.599 –> 00:21:53.140
not one that I… hated like outright just didn’t

00:21:53.140 –> 00:21:56.119
like it was just kind of one i i had to make

00:21:56.119 –> 00:21:58.119
a selection of which animes i was putting on

00:21:58.119 –> 00:22:00.359
there and it didn’t resonate as much with me

00:22:00.359 –> 00:22:03.940
as some other ones so it ended up not making

00:22:03.940 –> 00:22:07.519
the chopping block for me there but i i do know

00:22:07.519 –> 00:22:11.599
that this one is very much along the same lines

00:22:11.599 –> 00:22:13.940
of some of the shows i would have put on my list

00:22:13.940 –> 00:22:18.130
had other ones not been there yeah um Got the

00:22:18.130 –> 00:22:20.869
same kind of, you know, cheesy stuff, battles,

00:22:20.910 –> 00:22:24.650
magic. I mean, you’ve got, you’ve got all these

00:22:24.650 –> 00:22:29.309
different elements that, that kind of play into

00:22:29.309 –> 00:22:32.730
that. Um, it, it even, as far as like some of

00:22:32.730 –> 00:22:35.210
the, some of the notoriety has even beaten things

00:22:35.210 –> 00:22:37.190
like attack on Titan and some other stuff like

00:22:37.190 –> 00:22:41.509
that. So, um, and they also have it on Netflix.

00:22:42.410 –> 00:22:46.950
So if you’re trying to watch some of it, they

00:22:46.950 –> 00:22:49.730
have you know the the different uh they have

00:22:49.730 –> 00:22:54.450
five parts uh which are i believe like five episodes

00:22:54.450 –> 00:22:58.569
a piece or something or maybe more uh about 10

00:22:58.569 –> 00:23:00.950
episodes a piece per part so you’re looking at

00:23:00.950 –> 00:23:03.410
about like 50 episodes i had all three of these

00:23:03.410 –> 00:23:05.910
first shows ranked on my list all between numbers

00:23:05.910 –> 00:23:10.910
77 and 82 so i i understand why the argument

00:23:10.910 –> 00:23:14.609
exists for all of them and i i don’t think we

00:23:14.609 –> 00:23:18.819
can i think all of them couldn’t be debated too

00:23:18.819 –> 00:23:21.099
much about belonging or not. I think order and

00:23:21.099 –> 00:23:23.319
where they fall, that’ll be a different conversation

00:23:23.319 –> 00:23:25.859
we can have later. But yeah, interesting start

00:23:25.859 –> 00:23:27.779
to the countdown with our first three shows,

00:23:27.839 –> 00:23:31.000
all being anime. We are not going to go very

00:23:31.000 –> 00:23:35.460
far for the next one. 97. For over a thousand

00:23:35.460 –> 00:23:37.700
generations, the Jedi Knights were the guardians

00:23:37.700 –> 00:23:41.019
of peace and justice in the old Republic before

00:23:41.019 –> 00:23:45.599
the dark times, before the empire. All right.

00:23:45.839 –> 00:23:47.259
I might’ve teased you by thinking we were going

00:23:47.259 –> 00:23:48.940
to have another anime, but instead we’re going

00:23:48.940 –> 00:23:50.940
to stay in the year 2003. That’s what I meant

00:23:50.940 –> 00:23:53.579
by not going too far. Um, so with our number

00:23:53.579 –> 00:23:56.359
98 pick, we had our first adult swim show for

00:23:56.359 –> 00:23:58.839
our number 97 pick. We’re going to the world

00:23:58.839 –> 00:24:02.859
of cartoon network from 2003. You either are

00:24:02.859 –> 00:24:05.599
a fan of this show or you do not like it at all.

00:24:05.660 –> 00:24:07.579
I feel like it’s one extreme or the other. I

00:24:07.579 –> 00:24:09.259
don’t think there’s a lot of people in the middle.

00:24:09.720 –> 00:24:16.250
Our number 97 is the 2003 star Wars. Clone Wars.

00:24:16.470 –> 00:24:21.230
This would be the Tarkovsky one, not Star Wars

00:24:21.230 –> 00:24:23.970
The Clone Wars from 2008. This is Star Wars Clone

00:24:23.970 –> 00:24:32.289
Wars 2003. Yes. So this one actually fell quite

00:24:32.289 –> 00:24:37.470
a few spots from our last time. It fell 31 spots

00:24:37.470 –> 00:24:40.150
on the countdown. So it was somewhere in the

00:24:40.150 –> 00:24:42.630
60s, 15 years ago. It has dropped all the way

00:24:42.630 –> 00:24:45.819
down to number 97, almost off the list. entirely

00:24:45.819 –> 00:24:48.539
mike what do you think of star wars clone wars

00:24:48.539 –> 00:24:52.900
it was okay it was interesting at the time it

00:24:52.900 –> 00:25:00.940
was coming off the heels of attack of the it

00:25:00.940 –> 00:25:03.180
was in between attack of the clones and revenge

00:25:03.180 –> 00:25:06.799
of the sith so it was an interesting time period

00:25:06.799 –> 00:25:17.119
between 2002 and 2005 so It was a cool interest.

00:25:17.299 –> 00:25:20.720
Again, you’re talking about Genndy Tartakovsky,

00:25:20.839 –> 00:25:24.039
who didn’t do the Powerpuff Girls, or he did

00:25:24.039 –> 00:25:26.880
something else. I forget what else he did. He

00:25:26.880 –> 00:25:33.640
did Samurai Jack. Samurai Jack, yeah. Dexter,

00:25:33.720 –> 00:25:35.880
that’s what he did. Two Stupid Dogs, Dexter’s

00:25:35.880 –> 00:25:39.900
Lab. He did do the Powerpuff Girls. He did direct

00:25:39.900 –> 00:25:44.299
several of them. uh so guy was a staple of of

00:25:44.299 –> 00:25:46.640
cartoon network like the beginning of cartoon

00:25:46.640 –> 00:25:49.579
network so and he’s done other things like you

00:25:49.579 –> 00:25:52.779
know hotel transylvania the powerpuff girls uh

00:25:52.779 –> 00:25:55.599
he’s worked on batman the animated series yeah

00:25:55.599 –> 00:25:59.740
he’s the he’s one of the main reasons why i was

00:25:59.740 –> 00:26:01.359
not a fan of cartoon network in the beginning

00:26:01.359 –> 00:26:04.640
it was it was definitely an acquired taste at

00:26:04.640 –> 00:26:07.460
the beginning and i feel like you either loved

00:26:07.460 –> 00:26:11.420
his animation style or you didn’t yes and In

00:26:11.420 –> 00:26:14.799
some instances, it worked. In this particular

00:26:14.799 –> 00:26:18.460
instance, I don’t think so. But we at least got

00:26:18.460 –> 00:26:21.799
to keep the voice actors for when they actually

00:26:21.799 –> 00:26:26.400
brought it over as the Clone Wars. I have heard

00:26:26.400 –> 00:26:28.140
the argument out there from some people that

00:26:28.140 –> 00:26:30.039
say this is the coolest Star Wars ever looked.

00:26:30.180 –> 00:26:33.160
I am not in that camp, but I know there is a

00:26:33.160 –> 00:26:34.960
segment of the population that believes that.

00:26:36.009 –> 00:26:41.250
I think at the time, if we didn’t get the Clone

00:26:41.250 –> 00:26:47.750
Wars and everything the Clone Wars did, if we

00:26:47.750 –> 00:26:53.049
had only gotten this, it was at the time the

00:26:53.049 –> 00:26:59.069
coolest. Because before this, what did we have?

00:26:59.410 –> 00:27:01.230
I mean, we had the Ewoks and the droids in the

00:27:01.230 –> 00:27:06.069
80s. but that’s all we had yeah that’s all we

00:27:06.069 –> 00:27:08.849
had the star wars christmas special yeah that’s

00:27:08.849 –> 00:27:10.690
all that existed this also did introduce kind

00:27:10.690 –> 00:27:11.990
of that like mike i don’t know if it introduced

00:27:11.990 –> 00:27:14.210
it but uh it’s one of the first times i remember

00:27:14.210 –> 00:27:16.710
it i shouldn’t say it introduced it because this

00:27:16.710 –> 00:27:19.430
existed like in the early classic era but like

00:27:19.430 –> 00:27:22.230
from a cartoon that was coming out in this time

00:27:22.230 –> 00:27:24.470
period like the the micro episode format from

00:27:24.470 –> 00:27:26.990
a storytelling standpoint and things of that

00:27:26.990 –> 00:27:29.089
nature was kind of a an interesting take i’ll

00:27:29.089 –> 00:27:31.779
give it that much but Yeah, it was kind of a

00:27:31.779 –> 00:27:35.200
new foray into the world of animation for this

00:27:35.200 –> 00:27:42.019
franchise. Yeah, no, absolutely. And again, they

00:27:42.019 –> 00:27:45.880
had to do something. And literally, as I’m looking

00:27:45.880 –> 00:27:48.940
at the Wikipedia article, it begins shortly after

00:27:48.940 –> 00:27:51.700
Attack of the Clones. So literally, they were

00:27:51.700 –> 00:27:55.400
bridging the gap between Attack of the Clones

00:27:55.400 –> 00:27:59.519
and… Yes. I was going to say, however, it’s…

00:27:59.920 –> 00:28:04.980
not considered official canon no no no yeah yeah

00:28:04.980 –> 00:28:08.079
yeah no no i understand that i’m just saying

00:28:08.079 –> 00:28:11.779
going with the timeline of what star wars was

00:28:11.779 –> 00:28:16.880
doing at the time from 2002 to 2005 they had

00:28:16.880 –> 00:28:21.000
it’s similar it’s not as bad as the christmas

00:28:21.000 –> 00:28:26.029
special thank god uh but it’s similar to what

00:28:26.029 –> 00:28:29.269
the christmas special did between star wars and

00:28:29.269 –> 00:28:35.970
empire this is the bridge between phantom or

00:28:35.970 –> 00:28:38.789
not phantom attack of the clones and revenge

00:28:38.789 –> 00:28:42.170
of the sith i liked it i thought it was fun i

00:28:42.170 –> 00:28:45.750
like the clone wars much better speaking of that

00:28:45.750 –> 00:28:48.849
steve we are into a franchise here obviously

00:28:48.849 –> 00:28:52.150
with star wars if star wars Clone Wars comes

00:28:52.150 –> 00:28:54.690
in here at number 97. What is your guess for

00:28:54.690 –> 00:28:56.569
how many Star Wars shows we get in total on the

00:28:56.569 –> 00:29:01.670
entire countdown? Probably all of them. Okay.

00:29:01.769 –> 00:29:06.529
Because there’s three more. Three more prominent

00:29:06.529 –> 00:29:08.250
ones, I should say. There have been a couple

00:29:08.250 –> 00:29:10.369
other limited edition series, but I think there’s

00:29:10.369 –> 00:29:13.430
three other prominent ones. So I foresee a lot

00:29:13.430 –> 00:29:15.390
of them being on the list, but we’ll have to

00:29:15.390 –> 00:29:19.779
see. Well, let’s see where we go and what time

00:29:19.779 –> 00:29:21.279
period we go to next. We’re not going to stay

00:29:21.279 –> 00:29:25.119
in 2003. 96. This is Principal Brickley talking.

00:29:25.380 –> 00:29:27.980
I want to inform you all that I have a fat, saggy

00:29:27.980 –> 00:29:30.279
butt, which I like to scratch every hour on the

00:29:30.279 –> 00:29:32.799
out. Get ready. Into a decade we have not heard

00:29:32.799 –> 00:29:36.940
from yet. The 90s. So let’s go to something completely

00:29:36.940 –> 00:29:42.559
different. 1997 is the year this show drops 10

00:29:42.559 –> 00:29:47.299
spots from its previous. location on our countdown

00:29:47.299 –> 00:29:52.299
15 years ago coming in at 96 this time we’re

00:29:52.299 –> 00:29:54.240
going to go to the wonderful world of disney

00:29:54.240 –> 00:29:58.960
in a series that aired on abc originally this

00:29:58.960 –> 00:30:04.220
would be recess recess the playground politics

00:30:04.220 –> 00:30:09.180
universally loved childhood almost like sitcom

00:30:09.180 –> 00:30:14.099
for kids recess at number 96 mike you reacted

00:30:14.099 –> 00:30:18.059
first so i’ll let you go first i love this show

00:30:18.059 –> 00:30:24.539
this show is so funny uh this is one of those

00:30:24.539 –> 00:30:27.700
shows that i don’t hear a lot of people talking

00:30:27.700 –> 00:30:32.559
like you see fandoms and other things for a lot

00:30:32.559 –> 00:30:35.440
of shows and stuff i don’t see a lot of people

00:30:35.440 –> 00:30:40.490
talking about recess but recess uh basically

00:30:40.490 –> 00:30:43.089
about the lives of six different fourth graders

00:30:43.089 –> 00:30:50.970
uh just very very interesting very cool very

00:30:50.970 –> 00:30:58.309
fun uh and it was just an interesting time to

00:30:58.309 –> 00:31:02.390
to have a show like this because you know when

00:31:02.390 –> 00:31:05.049
we were all kids we were all going out to recess

00:31:05.049 –> 00:31:09.650
and whatever else because for me i was let’s

00:31:09.650 –> 00:31:12.609
see kindergarten to sixth grade i was that was

00:31:12.609 –> 00:31:21.150
85 to 92 so for me in fourth grade recess was

00:31:21.150 –> 00:31:25.710
not as wild as this show is it was wild but it

00:31:25.710 –> 00:31:31.069
wasn’t this wild um but like you you think about

00:31:31.069 –> 00:31:36.589
all the all the ideas in the world in the 90s

00:31:36.589 –> 00:31:42.230
that that that a creator could come up with hey

00:31:42.230 –> 00:31:46.250
let’s do a show about recess and i know it’s

00:31:46.250 –> 00:31:48.210
not on the countdown and that’s more than fine

00:31:48.210 –> 00:31:52.130
same thing with film or film wars on you know

00:31:52.130 –> 00:31:54.569
school safety patrol who in the hell would do

00:31:54.569 –> 00:31:58.769
a cartoon show anyway but it’s you know same

00:31:58.769 –> 00:32:01.950
concept like i love shows like that and this

00:32:01.950 –> 00:32:04.109
is you know recess just absolutely love this

00:32:04.109 –> 00:32:08.000
show wow i can’t believe it went down This is

00:32:08.000 –> 00:32:10.740
the, I mean, as we talked about in the introductory

00:32:10.740 –> 00:32:13.519
episode, like some shows we’re going to have

00:32:13.519 –> 00:32:15.440
to either get bounced from the countdown or go

00:32:15.440 –> 00:32:18.019
down or just how far they would fall. And out

00:32:18.019 –> 00:32:19.619
of all the movement that we’re going to see in

00:32:19.619 –> 00:32:21.819
today’s episode, obviously we’re going to have

00:32:21.819 –> 00:32:24.359
a big chunk of the not ranked before list. We

00:32:24.359 –> 00:32:27.119
said that there was 27 shows that are added this

00:32:27.119 –> 00:32:28.900
time around that weren’t ranked last time. We’re

00:32:28.900 –> 00:32:31.180
going to have just under half of those are going

00:32:31.180 –> 00:32:33.960
to show up in today’s episode. And the shows

00:32:33.960 –> 00:32:37.250
that were ranked last time. Every single one

00:32:37.250 –> 00:32:41.109
of them that we talk about today will have fallen

00:32:41.109 –> 00:32:44.349
down except for two. There’s only two shows that

00:32:44.349 –> 00:32:45.549
we’re going to talk about that we had ranked

00:32:45.549 –> 00:32:47.789
last time that are ranked higher this time. So

00:32:47.789 –> 00:32:50.049
we’ll get to those here in a little bit. The

00:32:50.049 –> 00:32:52.730
craziest thing about recess to me is that it

00:32:52.730 –> 00:32:55.670
took until 1997 for someone to do this. Yeah,

00:32:55.690 –> 00:32:57.750
really? Don’t you think it would have been done

00:32:57.750 –> 00:33:00.109
way earlier? Yeah, it’s like a great concept.

00:33:00.170 –> 00:33:01.609
It’s a great idea. It’s got to be one that it

00:33:01.609 –> 00:33:03.150
came out and people are like, why didn’t we do

00:33:03.150 –> 00:33:05.079
that earlier? Yeah, why didn’t we do that earlier?

00:33:05.720 –> 00:33:08.160
Before Steve goes and gives his thoughts, the

00:33:08.160 –> 00:33:10.599
one thing I will say is, and I’m going to say

00:33:10.599 –> 00:33:12.839
it now so I don’t have to repeat, repeat, repeat

00:33:12.839 –> 00:33:16.880
myself later. Half the shows that we end up revealing

00:33:16.880 –> 00:33:20.460
on our countdown here. I’m going to say this

00:33:20.460 –> 00:33:22.359
now so I don’t have to repeat this in other episodes.

00:33:22.420 –> 00:33:25.359
I guarantee you, as long as they’re on any streaming

00:33:25.359 –> 00:33:27.140
service, they’re probably going to end up on

00:33:27.140 –> 00:33:30.099
ToonCast. Because all the episodes of Recess

00:33:30.099 –> 00:33:33.299
are currently on Disney Plus in the U .S. And

00:33:33.299 –> 00:33:36.000
I guarantee you, I’m going to cover Recess on

00:33:36.000 –> 00:33:40.039
ToonCast at some point this year. We’re just

00:33:40.039 –> 00:33:41.640
trying to create more content for Mike to do.

00:33:41.720 –> 00:33:43.880
So it’s what we do here. Steve, what are your

00:33:43.880 –> 00:33:47.950
thoughts on Recess? I remember watching this

00:33:47.950 –> 00:33:52.170
on the one Saturday morning that Disney used

00:33:52.170 –> 00:33:55.750
to have. And honestly, I really enjoyed it. It

00:33:55.750 –> 00:34:00.109
was fun. It kind of played to that younger kid.

00:34:00.230 –> 00:34:03.509
I mean, I wasn’t that age anymore, but at the

00:34:03.509 –> 00:34:05.890
same time, I could relate and I found it entertaining.

00:34:06.630 –> 00:34:10.409
I didn’t watch it through its entire 65 episode

00:34:10.409 –> 00:34:13.860
run. but I did catch episodes here and there

00:34:13.860 –> 00:34:16.119
when I would watch Saturday morning cartoons,

00:34:16.559 –> 00:34:22.420
uh, cause it would be on like ABC. And I, I found

00:34:22.420 –> 00:34:24.860
that the dynamic between the friends kind of

00:34:24.860 –> 00:34:26.960
interesting, you know, you had all the different

00:34:26.960 –> 00:34:30.840
stereotypes in there. You had the, uh, the crazy,

00:34:30.940 –> 00:34:37.460
uh, security guard teacher, uh, Randall. Yeah.

00:34:37.559 –> 00:34:44.239
Well, not just Randall, the, The lady is my God,

00:34:44.340 –> 00:34:46.260
what was her name? I butcher in the names because

00:34:46.260 –> 00:34:49.820
I don’t remember any of the names. I just I remember

00:34:49.820 –> 00:34:54.340
watching the show and genuinely in a spinster.

00:34:54.500 –> 00:34:58.219
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I remember genuinely enjoying

00:34:58.219 –> 00:35:01.440
it, though. It kind of gave me a different parallel

00:35:01.440 –> 00:35:04.420
to like a Simpsons, but it’s more like more grounded

00:35:04.420 –> 00:35:08.289
in situations you might see. Or like the dynamics

00:35:08.289 –> 00:35:10.909
of the playground. You know, the sixth grader

00:35:10.909 –> 00:35:14.309
is the king of the playground and things like

00:35:14.309 –> 00:35:16.969
that. So it was just, I don’t know, it was kind

00:35:16.969 –> 00:35:19.190
of fresh and different. So it was enough to catch

00:35:19.190 –> 00:35:22.989
my interest at that point. Yeah, I think it’s

00:35:22.989 –> 00:35:25.349
a show that gets a lot of love. It was nominated

00:35:25.349 –> 00:35:29.909
for at least 10 awards that we looked at. So

00:35:29.909 –> 00:35:32.670
it’s got some critical acclaim there as well.

00:35:32.789 –> 00:35:35.960
So we went from anime to anime to anime. And

00:35:35.960 –> 00:35:40.659
then we went from 2003 to 2003. And now we’re

00:35:40.659 –> 00:35:43.519
going to go from Disney to another Disney show.

00:35:46.280 –> 00:35:50.139
95. There aren’t any gummy bears now, but they

00:35:50.139 –> 00:35:52.760
used to exist. Everyone knows that. Everyone

00:35:52.760 –> 00:35:55.219
knows that. Everyone knows they’re just fairy

00:35:55.219 –> 00:36:01.260
tales. All right. Number 95. A Disney show, but

00:36:01.260 –> 00:36:04.809
not from the 90s. And actually, for the second

00:36:04.809 –> 00:36:06.349
time this countdown, we’re going to have a second

00:36:06.349 –> 00:36:09.090
year represented. So we had two 2003 shows, and

00:36:09.090 –> 00:36:10.949
now this is going to be our second show from

00:36:10.949 –> 00:36:14.570
1985. And a lot of people will call this kind

00:36:14.570 –> 00:36:17.969
of a foundational show for Disney, maybe a precursor

00:36:17.969 –> 00:36:21.869
to the Disney afternoon. Our number 95 pick dropped

00:36:21.869 –> 00:36:25.030
18 slots in the last 15 years, but still made

00:36:25.030 –> 00:36:27.090
the countdown. We’re talking about Disney’s Adventures

00:36:27.090 –> 00:36:29.610
of the Gummy Bears, one of the best theme songs.

00:36:30.460 –> 00:36:33.139
ever created for a cartoon if you don’t believe

00:36:33.139 –> 00:36:36.780
me go listen to it it’s just i always have it

00:36:36.780 –> 00:36:39.760
in my top five all -time theme songs but um it’s

00:36:39.760 –> 00:36:42.599
also one of those uh serialized kids storytelling

00:36:42.599 –> 00:36:46.880
shows that existed that was kind of not commonplace

00:36:46.880 –> 00:36:50.300
in the 80s i’m a big fan of this one i had it

00:36:50.300 –> 00:36:53.860
ranked in my 60s on my list um i just think that

00:36:53.860 –> 00:36:57.380
this is from a disney standpoint yes there was

00:36:57.380 –> 00:37:01.250
a Prior to this, but this one was so crucial

00:37:01.250 –> 00:37:04.630
in getting us to everything that Disney did in

00:37:04.630 –> 00:37:07.750
the late 80s, early 90s. So I think it has a

00:37:07.750 –> 00:37:11.050
lot of influential aspects going that you could

00:37:11.050 –> 00:37:13.469
give it some props for and reasons for why it

00:37:13.469 –> 00:37:15.989
should be on the list for that point. From a

00:37:15.989 –> 00:37:19.150
quality standpoint, overall, do you compare it

00:37:19.150 –> 00:37:20.929
to some of the other Disney shows that come later?

00:37:21.050 –> 00:37:23.230
Maybe not, but I think just for its impact and

00:37:23.230 –> 00:37:26.090
influential. aspects that it deserves a spot

00:37:26.090 –> 00:37:27.889
on the list so i’m happy it’s even though it

00:37:27.889 –> 00:37:30.329
dropped 18 spots i’m happy that it stayed here

00:37:30.329 –> 00:37:32.230
mike what do you think of disney’s adventures

00:37:32.230 –> 00:37:35.170
of the gummy bears love this show this show’s

00:37:35.170 –> 00:37:39.130
amazing and because of the last show that we

00:37:39.130 –> 00:37:45.510
just revealed in this show uh miss finster was

00:37:45.510 –> 00:37:50.460
voiced by april winchell Her father plays Zummy

00:37:50.460 –> 00:37:52.960
Gummy. Paul Winchell plays Zummy. Connections

00:37:52.960 –> 00:37:57.840
all over the place. Yep. But no, Adventures of

00:37:57.840 –> 00:38:02.760
the Gummy Bears. Oh, man. Absolutely love, love

00:38:02.760 –> 00:38:08.900
this show. This show was so cool. This is one

00:38:08.900 –> 00:38:13.010
of the cartoon shows that just… Was so original

00:38:13.010 –> 00:38:17.070
that lets you just escape. It was kind of an

00:38:17.070 –> 00:38:20.329
Arthurian legend, but it really wasn’t. It was

00:38:20.329 –> 00:38:22.389
kind of an offshoot of the Arthurian legend.

00:38:22.929 –> 00:38:28.969
And it just lets you, like I said, escape. And

00:38:28.969 –> 00:38:33.690
it was so cool. It was so fun. You know, you

00:38:33.690 –> 00:38:37.769
got June Foray as Grammy Gummy. You got Lorenzo

00:38:37.769 –> 00:38:42.519
Music as Tummy. And such a great voice cast in

00:38:42.519 –> 00:38:46.280
this and the adventures they would go on. The

00:38:46.280 –> 00:38:50.719
ogres fighting them and fighting the Duke and

00:38:50.719 –> 00:38:54.380
saving Princess Kala and all that. Just it’s

00:38:54.380 –> 00:38:57.760
so good. Steve, what do you think of the Adventures

00:38:57.760 –> 00:39:04.860
of the Gummy Bears? I like the theme song. He’s

00:39:04.860 –> 00:39:07.519
never seen it. No, I’ve seen it because I gave

00:39:07.519 –> 00:39:12.159
every show a shot. that went into our 264 pounds,

00:39:12.460 –> 00:39:18.980
I didn’t really care for it. I found, and I get

00:39:18.980 –> 00:39:21.900
it, it’s probably the fact that I wasn’t raised

00:39:21.900 –> 00:39:25.539
on it is why it doesn’t resonate. And I would

00:39:25.539 –> 00:39:27.860
argue that’s probably the same reason why Speed

00:39:27.860 –> 00:39:30.440
Racer didn’t resonate with me. It’s because,

00:39:30.519 –> 00:39:33.579
again, I wasn’t raised with it. It was just something

00:39:33.579 –> 00:39:36.610
I caught. when it was on and i didn’t have the

00:39:36.610 –> 00:39:38.670
disney channel when i was a kid so if it wasn’t

00:39:38.670 –> 00:39:42.369
on abc i didn’t see it until much much later

00:39:42.369 –> 00:39:45.690
so i don’t necessarily have the nostalgia for

00:39:45.690 –> 00:39:49.829
it to enjoy it the way that like you guys do

00:39:49.829 –> 00:39:53.329
so yeah um yeah that’s that’s why for me like

00:39:53.329 –> 00:39:55.110
it’s not as much about the quality of the overall

00:39:55.110 –> 00:39:56.869
show like i think it’s kind of hit or miss with

00:39:56.869 –> 00:40:00.250
some of the things i think for me i i the reason

00:40:00.250 –> 00:40:02.510
i have it on my list is more about the impact

00:40:02.510 –> 00:40:06.260
that it had on on the disney animation vehicle

00:40:06.260 –> 00:40:10.980
i watch this all the time i mean i feel like

00:40:10.980 –> 00:40:12.960
if this isn’t successful we don’t get some of

00:40:12.960 –> 00:40:15.320
the shows that i’m sure will come up later well

00:40:15.320 –> 00:40:18.039
and it was good as far as the animation like

00:40:18.039 –> 00:40:21.280
that there were i mean and that’s something disney’s

00:40:21.280 –> 00:40:24.219
pretty much always been stellar at is like one

00:40:24.219 –> 00:40:26.699
up in their game with the animation some other

00:40:26.699 –> 00:40:30.800
studios had similar situations but like overall

00:40:30.800 –> 00:40:33.139
like disney constantly was one -upping throughout

00:40:33.139 –> 00:40:38.400
the 80s through to the 90s yeah and i mean this

00:40:38.400 –> 00:40:42.380
show it’s the animation it’s the music it’s the

00:40:42.380 –> 00:40:46.420
voice cast it’s also the storytelling the start

00:40:46.420 –> 00:40:51.260
like i don’t remember if it had serialized or

00:40:51.260 –> 00:40:53.380
if they were episodic yeah they were serialized

00:40:53.380 –> 00:40:56.039
was wasn’t most of it serialized because it’s

00:40:56.039 –> 00:40:58.699
been a while since i’ve gone back and watched

00:40:58.699 –> 00:41:01.400
every episode i’ve gone back and watched episodes

00:41:01.400 –> 00:41:04.280
here or there it might not be heavily serialized

00:41:04.280 –> 00:41:06.820
but it is serialized but some of it is okay yeah

00:41:06.820 –> 00:41:13.860
uh but just man like every time i did watch this

00:41:13.860 –> 00:41:16.460
show because i remember having the original dvd

00:41:16.460 –> 00:41:20.500
set when i came out i went nuts i was like stalking

00:41:20.500 –> 00:41:22.719
best buy like when is it coming out when is it

00:41:22.719 –> 00:41:25.420
coming because back then when the dvd set came

00:41:25.420 –> 00:41:28.860
out it was like tv shows on dvd .com which isn’t

00:41:28.860 –> 00:41:31.239
available anymore and everything else and all

00:41:31.239 –> 00:41:33.920
this and all that because i actually i think

00:41:33.920 –> 00:41:36.019
i have a youtube video on my youtube channel

00:41:36.019 –> 00:41:39.820
about getting the dvd set and whatever else just

00:41:39.820 –> 00:41:41.900
absolutely love adventures the gummy bears it’s

00:41:41.900 –> 00:41:44.480
so good this is one of many shows that will come

00:41:44.480 –> 00:41:46.400
up over the curse of this countdown that i own

00:41:46.400 –> 00:41:49.599
uh the complete series of on dvd as well so yeah

00:41:49.599 –> 00:41:53.219
all right so we have seen some anime we’ve seen

00:41:53.219 –> 00:41:56.260
an entrance from lucasfilm with the clone with

00:41:56.510 –> 00:41:59.329
Clone Wars, seen a couple of Disney shows. Let’s

00:41:59.329 –> 00:42:09.849
hear from a new production company next. I say

00:42:09.849 –> 00:42:17.010
new production company, but I guess it’s kind

00:42:17.010 –> 00:42:20.190
of old as well because this one’s from 1961 and

00:42:20.190 –> 00:42:22.969
it’s going to come in at number 94 this time

00:42:22.969 –> 00:42:26.400
around. It was not ranked. in our top 115 years

00:42:26.400 –> 00:42:28.199
ago even though it was definitely eligible since

00:42:28.199 –> 00:42:33.199
it came out in 1961 so it has risen from 166th

00:42:33.199 –> 00:42:38.440
place all the way up to 94th it will be a our

00:42:38.440 –> 00:42:42.360
first entrant from the production company known

00:42:42.360 –> 00:42:47.380
as hannah barbara originally aired on abc we’re

00:42:47.380 –> 00:42:52.239
talking about top cat so the interesting part

00:42:52.670 –> 00:42:55.090
about Top Cat. I was doing some research on this

00:42:55.090 –> 00:42:59.309
in the days and whatnot leading up to this. I

00:42:59.309 –> 00:43:03.230
didn’t realize how popular this show is internationally.

00:43:04.349 –> 00:43:07.429
It’s not as big in the US as it is internationally,

00:43:07.570 –> 00:43:10.630
especially in Latin America. For some reason,

00:43:10.690 –> 00:43:13.369
Top Cat is a big hit there, but obviously one

00:43:13.369 –> 00:43:16.210
of the more well -known characters from Hanna

00:43:16.210 –> 00:43:19.250
-Barbera’s catalog, but it didn’t make our list

00:43:19.250 –> 00:43:21.030
last time. It does this time. Mike, what are

00:43:21.030 –> 00:43:25.289
your thoughts? I forgot it didn’t make the list

00:43:25.289 –> 00:43:30.670
last time. I thought it would have. I love Top

00:43:30.670 –> 00:43:33.849
Cat. I love Benny. I love them all. Hanna -Barbera

00:43:33.849 –> 00:43:35.869
didn’t get as much love as I had anticipated

00:43:35.869 –> 00:43:38.510
last time around. I will say that much. Yeah.

00:43:40.150 –> 00:43:44.030
The adventures of Top Cat, Benny the Ball, Choo

00:43:44.030 –> 00:43:50.070
Choo, Brain, Spook, and all of them. Just so

00:43:50.070 –> 00:43:56.840
good. Top cat was one of the, like, he was one

00:43:56.840 –> 00:43:59.699
of the ultimate schemers. He really, really was

00:43:59.699 –> 00:44:05.300
like, it was so good. Do you think it’s worthy

00:44:05.300 –> 00:44:07.099
of being top 100, even though we did not put

00:44:07.099 –> 00:44:09.699
it on there last time? Oh yeah, absolutely. This

00:44:09.699 –> 00:44:13.360
show is so good. It’s so fun because you, so

00:44:13.360 –> 00:44:18.159
let’s see. Trying to see top cat versus Garfield.

00:44:18.519 –> 00:44:21.559
What’s the comparison. The comparison would be

00:44:21.559 –> 00:44:25.780
Top Cat is trying to get away with schemes away

00:44:25.780 –> 00:44:28.880
from what’s the… I would say Top Cat is way

00:44:28.880 –> 00:44:31.260
more comparable to Heathcliff than it is Garfield.

00:44:31.559 –> 00:44:42.440
Okay, well, Officer Charlie Dibble. But who does

00:44:42.440 –> 00:44:45.280
Heathcliff have? No, I’m just saying Heathcliff

00:44:45.280 –> 00:44:47.920
is like a group of street cats that is trying

00:44:47.920 –> 00:44:50.380
to go around, and that’s kind of what Top Cat

00:44:50.380 –> 00:44:53.519
is, whereas Garfield is just a house cat. Yeah,

00:44:53.579 –> 00:45:00.179
okay, fine. So Heathcliff versus Top Cat. I was

00:45:00.179 –> 00:45:02.639
trying to compare Top Cat to Garfield, where

00:45:02.639 –> 00:45:07.579
Top Cat has Officer Dibble and Garfield has John.

00:45:08.699 –> 00:45:11.219
Garfield’s always trying to get the lasagna kind

00:45:11.219 –> 00:45:14.309
of thing. I see where you’re going with that.

00:45:14.389 –> 00:45:18.530
Yeah. So, you know, Top Cat’s always trying to

00:45:18.530 –> 00:45:20.530
do schemes, and he’s always trying to get this

00:45:20.530 –> 00:45:23.230
and get that and whatever else. And I always

00:45:23.230 –> 00:45:25.650
thought Heathcliff was just trying to do mischief

00:45:25.650 –> 00:45:31.889
just to do mischief. He was. Yeah. Top Cat, you

00:45:31.889 –> 00:45:34.670
know, they always, they were more of a, like,

00:45:34.789 –> 00:45:37.889
honestly, and I know this is really sad, but

00:45:37.889 –> 00:45:41.780
excuse me for being a sheltered white kid. in

00:45:41.780 –> 00:45:46.119
southeast massachusetts in the 80s but top cat’s

00:45:46.119 –> 00:45:50.400
gang was the first gang i ever saw on tv sorry

00:45:50.400 –> 00:45:56.679
uh but like he him and his that that’s why officer

00:45:56.679 –> 00:45:58.980
dibble was always after him you know they’re

00:45:58.980 –> 00:46:01.079
always you know getting schemes i don’t know

00:46:01.079 –> 00:46:05.280
i just i liked top cat he was he was always you

00:46:05.280 –> 00:46:09.900
know that that cat that just always you know

00:46:09.900 –> 00:46:15.679
had to I don’t know. Top Cat did not make my

00:46:15.679 –> 00:46:19.239
list. I respect Top Cat as far as a Hanna -Barbera

00:46:19.239 –> 00:46:22.340
character and a classic cartoon character. I

00:46:22.340 –> 00:46:24.199
just didn’t quite have enough room. I had some

00:46:24.199 –> 00:46:25.940
other Hanna -Barbera shows that I ranked instead.

00:46:26.119 –> 00:46:30.659
But from an influence or kind of pop culture

00:46:30.659 –> 00:46:32.739
standpoint, he has appeared in a lot of stuff.

00:46:32.880 –> 00:46:35.659
So Top Cat and his gang or members of his gang

00:46:35.659 –> 00:46:37.920
appeared in Yogi’s Art Clark, appeared in Yogi’s

00:46:37.920 –> 00:46:40.750
Treasure Hunt. appeared in wake rattle and roll

00:46:40.750 –> 00:46:43.449
harvey birdman attorney at law the powerpuff

00:46:43.449 –> 00:46:46.869
girls foster’s home for imaginary friends futurama

00:46:46.869 –> 00:46:50.829
jellystone teen titans go and how about this

00:46:50.829 –> 00:46:53.289
mike which i guess solidifies my comparison top

00:46:53.289 –> 00:46:56.130
cat and his gang appeared in the march 10th 2016

00:46:56.130 –> 00:47:00.510
strip of heathcliff So there is a crossover,

00:47:00.690 –> 00:47:02.489
I guess, from that standpoint. I didn’t realize

00:47:02.489 –> 00:47:05.389
how popular it was internationally and things

00:47:05.389 –> 00:47:07.389
of that nature. So I had other Hanna -Barbera

00:47:07.389 –> 00:47:09.969
characters on my list, not Top Cap, but I’m not

00:47:09.969 –> 00:47:12.170
saying he’s not necessarily worthy. Steve, what

00:47:12.170 –> 00:47:15.289
do you think? So I actually did not list this

00:47:15.289 –> 00:47:17.250
show on my list. I actually went in favor of

00:47:17.250 –> 00:47:22.449
Heathcliff. And it’s funny because I was kind

00:47:22.449 –> 00:47:25.130
of torn between the two. Like I wanted to list

00:47:25.130 –> 00:47:28.460
them both, but I had other. uh series that i

00:47:28.460 –> 00:47:31.039
was trying to include both old and new and other

00:47:31.039 –> 00:47:33.280
hannah barbarian series that i felt like were

00:47:33.280 –> 00:47:39.780
more enjoyable to watch um and some of them i

00:47:39.780 –> 00:47:42.780
had on my list because i mean it would be like

00:47:42.780 –> 00:47:46.920
sacrilegious to not have them so i had to sacrifice

00:47:46.920 –> 00:47:49.000
somewhere and top cat unfortunately was one of

00:47:49.000 –> 00:47:51.320
them however i did really enjoy this cartoon

00:47:51.320 –> 00:47:54.710
uh yeah For me, it was kind of neck and neck

00:47:54.710 –> 00:47:59.050
between Top Cat and Heathcliff. Top Cat was more.

00:48:01.050 –> 00:48:04.510
You’re smooth talking kind of almost had like

00:48:04.510 –> 00:48:08.650
an urban sitcom. Yeah, I mean, he had all these

00:48:08.650 –> 00:48:10.570
different scams and all these other things, but

00:48:10.570 –> 00:48:16.030
it was more like he was. It was very sitcom ish,

00:48:16.030 –> 00:48:22.750
but he also had. like this this different presence

00:48:22.750 –> 00:48:25.070
with himself like he wasn’t trying to get into

00:48:25.070 –> 00:48:28.849
trouble but he was trying to make you know trying

00:48:28.849 –> 00:48:31.710
to get into trouble yeah he’s trying to make

00:48:31.710 –> 00:48:34.210
trouble yeah yeah whereas heathcliff is like

00:48:34.210 –> 00:48:38.849
everything he’s doing is trouble you know it

00:48:38.849 –> 00:48:42.070
was like taking garfield but mixing him with

00:48:42.070 –> 00:48:45.119
top cat and you get heathcliff Yeah, I think

00:48:45.119 –> 00:48:46.860
their two characters are different. I think where

00:48:46.860 –> 00:48:49.500
I see the similarities is the Cadillac Cats that

00:48:49.500 –> 00:48:51.780
followed Heathcliff compared to Top Cat’s gang.

00:48:52.360 –> 00:48:54.880
Correct. Is like kind of the similarity. And

00:48:54.880 –> 00:48:57.679
I feel like that’s where Heathcliff got better

00:48:57.679 –> 00:49:01.679
was with the Cadillac Cats. Yes. And I feel like

00:49:01.679 –> 00:49:04.159
Top Cat, you know, his his gang. I mean, it very

00:49:04.159 –> 00:49:07.199
much looks like a Hanna -Barbera show. Like you’ve

00:49:07.199 –> 00:49:09.780
got a lot of Flintstones cues right in there

00:49:09.780 –> 00:49:11.559
and Jetsons cues like right in the animation

00:49:11.559 –> 00:49:14.780
style, which is not a bad thing. It just. It

00:49:14.780 –> 00:49:19.099
makes it, I think, more familiar and more readily

00:49:19.099 –> 00:49:22.480
to be accepted because it shares a similar style

00:49:22.480 –> 00:49:25.119
to those two series. And so therefore, I feel

00:49:25.119 –> 00:49:28.340
like it got adopted better. Steve, I have one

00:49:28.340 –> 00:49:31.019
other question somewhat unrelated to Top Cat

00:49:31.019 –> 00:49:33.059
itself, but kind of more about our list overall.

00:49:33.539 –> 00:49:37.320
So we had Speed Racer, which is a 1967 show that

00:49:37.320 –> 00:49:41.869
rose from 349th to 100th. We had Top Cat that

00:49:41.869 –> 00:49:45.989
rose from 166th to 94th. That was from 1961.

00:49:47.150 –> 00:49:50.469
Does this speak to a theme that we will see throughout

00:49:50.469 –> 00:49:54.489
the rest of the countdown on our wider range

00:49:54.489 –> 00:49:57.989
of age demographics that are included in our

00:49:57.989 –> 00:50:00.289
contributors? Or do you think it’s just a few

00:50:00.289 –> 00:50:02.030
shows like that that just got more love over

00:50:02.030 –> 00:50:06.429
time? I think it’s both. I think a lot of it

00:50:06.429 –> 00:50:10.539
is like we’ve got… a different age range a

00:50:10.539 –> 00:50:12.619
lot of us have gotten older and seen a lot more

00:50:12.619 –> 00:50:17.300
stuff and then you know those of us that you

00:50:17.300 –> 00:50:19.460
know have kids have introduced them to some of

00:50:19.460 –> 00:50:22.739
these series and so i mean i feel like there’s

00:50:22.739 –> 00:50:24.679
that i feel like there’s age too that’s kind

00:50:24.679 –> 00:50:29.659
of hit some of us and uh it made us enjoy things

00:50:29.659 –> 00:50:32.880
differently than we once did and so giving shows

00:50:32.880 –> 00:50:34.800
a shot that may not have had it the first time

00:50:34.800 –> 00:50:40.739
around so i’m I’m pleasantly surprised to see

00:50:40.739 –> 00:50:43.480
that shows that didn’t make it the first time

00:50:43.480 –> 00:50:46.739
around are making it or making it into the top

00:50:46.739 –> 00:50:50.039
100 to begin with. But then again, we’ve had

00:50:50.039 –> 00:50:55.500
other shows that missed it by that much and were

00:50:55.500 –> 00:51:00.480
on the original list. And so Neon Genesis Evangelion

00:51:00.480 –> 00:51:04.300
was 99 in the old list. It’s 107 this time. magic

00:51:04.300 –> 00:51:06.860
school bus was 89 last time it’s 102 this time

00:51:06.860 –> 00:51:09.320
so like some of them have flip -flopped and it’s

00:51:09.320 –> 00:51:12.139
not just been a minor flip -flop like those have

00:51:12.139 –> 00:51:14.840
been a minor flip -flop i mean with top cat and

00:51:14.840 –> 00:51:17.260
speed racer specifically it was a huge flip -flop

00:51:17.260 –> 00:51:19.760
yeah yeah we’ll have to kind of track that as

00:51:19.760 –> 00:51:22.239
we go to to see if that trend continues with

00:51:22.239 –> 00:51:23.719
some of the older shows or if it’s just kind

00:51:23.719 –> 00:51:26.340
of random shows across the block that have just

00:51:26.340 –> 00:51:29.760
uh maybe aged more gracefully i guess over the

00:51:29.760 –> 00:51:33.679
last 15 years so We’re international flavor a

00:51:33.679 –> 00:51:35.059
little bit with Top Cat with its popularity.

00:51:35.260 –> 00:51:38.739
Let’s go to one that was literally produced internationally.

00:51:39.599 –> 00:51:42.320
93. Where can we get a rasher of bacon five yards

00:51:42.320 –> 00:51:50.260
long? The ferocious Tibetan butter. Oh, no. All

00:51:50.260 –> 00:51:54.579
right. For our number 93, for us in the U .S.,

00:51:54.579 –> 00:51:57.780
we first saw this show on, first time I’ve mentioned

00:51:57.780 –> 00:52:01.039
this on today’s countdown, on Nickelodeon. is

00:52:01.039 –> 00:52:04.679
where we first saw this back in 1981, and I am

00:52:04.679 –> 00:52:07.760
ecstatic that this show has remained on the countdown.

00:52:08.219 –> 00:52:15.039
It dropped from number 69 to 93, and it was in

00:52:15.039 –> 00:52:16.719
danger, I guess, of falling out of the countdown

00:52:16.719 –> 00:52:19.360
completely, and I’m so happy that it didn’t because

00:52:19.360 –> 00:52:22.480
I think this one is criminally underrated because

00:52:22.480 –> 00:52:28.630
most of it is super popular more in the UK. I

00:52:28.630 –> 00:52:30.530
think it’s probably one of the top five, top

00:52:30.530 –> 00:52:33.170
10 shows in the UK all time, and it doesn’t get

00:52:33.170 –> 00:52:36.130
that same attention here in the US. So I’m ecstatic

00:52:36.130 –> 00:52:38.849
that Danger Mouse has come in here at number

00:52:38.849 –> 00:52:42.690
93 from Cosgrove Hall. Like I said, it came over

00:52:42.690 –> 00:52:45.929
to us on Nickelodeon, and I think it deserves

00:52:45.929 –> 00:52:49.389
all the love. So Danger Mouse, number 93. Mike,

00:52:49.489 –> 00:52:50.909
you thought it was something else, but it’s Danger

00:52:50.909 –> 00:52:53.929
Mouse. Yeah, for a minute there, I was getting

00:52:53.929 –> 00:52:56.769
scared. I’m like, oh my God, if he mentions that

00:52:56.769 –> 00:53:00.360
one that I hate. I said 1981, so that should

00:53:00.360 –> 00:53:03.300
have been a clue for you. Yeah, I know. But I

00:53:03.300 –> 00:53:06.460
forgot when that other evil thing came out. Thank

00:53:06.460 –> 00:53:09.719
God. Yeah, Danger Mouse. Absolutely. Best show

00:53:09.719 –> 00:53:13.619
ever. Mike just went straight to best show ever.

00:53:13.679 –> 00:53:15.059
I guess we can close up the countdown, Steve.

00:53:15.199 –> 00:53:17.599
We don’t need to do any more of this. He’s already

00:53:17.599 –> 00:53:20.719
crowned it top show ever. Well, no, I said best

00:53:20.719 –> 00:53:23.780
show ever. No, I absolutely love Danger Mouse.

00:53:23.880 –> 00:53:26.440
I grew up watching Danger Mouse. It was so cool.

00:53:26.519 –> 00:53:30.239
It was so fun. Absolutely love that. I think

00:53:30.239 –> 00:53:31.659
it would have been easy for this one to slip

00:53:31.659 –> 00:53:34.099
out since we didn’t have a big UK conglomerate

00:53:34.099 –> 00:53:37.000
and our contributors. So that’s why I’m happy

00:53:37.000 –> 00:53:40.980
that it remained. It was on 14 lists. It was

00:53:40.980 –> 00:53:42.699
out of the I haven’t mentioned this yet today,

00:53:42.780 –> 00:53:44.670
but we. We talked about different lists that

00:53:44.670 –> 00:53:46.269
we looked at as we were trying to come up with

00:53:46.269 –> 00:53:48.409
our nominees, right? Like we had our own list.

00:53:48.550 –> 00:53:50.449
We had our own thoughts. We did a lot of pressure

00:53:50.449 –> 00:53:52.650
tests. We also looked at a variety of lists just

00:53:52.650 –> 00:53:54.090
to see if we had missed anything. And I looked

00:53:54.090 –> 00:53:57.269
at the original PCAST radio list. We looked at

00:53:57.269 –> 00:54:00.309
the IGN list. We looked at a list from Wizard,

00:54:00.570 –> 00:54:02.750
from TV Guide, from Digital Dream Door, Channel

00:54:02.750 –> 00:54:04.949
4, IndieWire, Ranker, and a couple other ones.

00:54:05.329 –> 00:54:09.409
And this show actually appeared on five of those

00:54:09.409 –> 00:54:11.409
lists, which is more than any show we’ve talked

00:54:11.409 –> 00:54:13.960
about so far today. So it does have some universal

00:54:13.960 –> 00:54:16.480
praise when it comes into the more critic circles,

00:54:16.699 –> 00:54:19.559
but I feel like the majority of audiences may

00:54:19.559 –> 00:54:22.440
not have been exposed to Danger Mouse because

00:54:22.440 –> 00:54:25.059
of when it came out and because of it not being

00:54:25.059 –> 00:54:29.280
a U .S. cartoon. And if you didn’t have Nickelodeon,

00:54:29.340 –> 00:54:31.559
maybe you didn’t have a way to watch it. But

00:54:31.559 –> 00:54:34.719
like I said, it flung to its spot within our

00:54:34.719 –> 00:54:36.739
top 100, and that makes me happy. Steve, have

00:54:36.739 –> 00:54:39.980
you had any exposure to Danger Mouse? Yeah, actually.

00:54:41.280 –> 00:54:45.280
And no, I’m not talking about the new one. I

00:54:45.280 –> 00:54:47.599
have seen bits and pieces of the new one, but

00:54:47.599 –> 00:54:53.159
no. The old one, it had its own particular charm

00:54:53.159 –> 00:54:58.800
to it. I love the song, the theme. I think I

00:54:58.800 –> 00:55:02.059
love theme songs for old animated shows just

00:55:02.059 –> 00:55:06.360
because nowadays we don’t get that kind of awesomeness.

00:55:06.599 –> 00:55:13.599
The 80s and 90s were, quite frankly, Cartoon

00:55:13.599 –> 00:55:16.840
theme heaven. Yeah. Yeah. I couldn’t think of

00:55:16.840 –> 00:55:21.780
the right word, but that that fits. So. I think

00:55:21.780 –> 00:55:23.460
that this is really cool. This kind of fits along

00:55:23.460 –> 00:55:25.579
with like your secret squirrel. A lot of the

00:55:25.579 –> 00:55:27.320
other type of shows that they kind of fit into

00:55:27.320 –> 00:55:34.179
this realm. This one did also create a. Follow

00:55:34.179 –> 00:55:37.079
up or spinoff series and, you know, Count Ducula.

00:55:37.460 –> 00:55:39.920
Yeah. Which was interesting on its own right,

00:55:39.960 –> 00:55:43.230
too. I don’t remember what year the reboot came

00:55:43.230 –> 00:55:48.130
out. It was within the last 10 years or so. It

00:55:48.130 –> 00:55:53.269
was Boulder Media that did some of it. It’s been

00:55:53.269 –> 00:55:58.610
passed around. They did it from 2015 to 2019.

00:56:00.289 –> 00:56:02.150
I think I’ve seen bits and pieces of the new

00:56:02.150 –> 00:56:03.989
one as well, but not as much to make a judgment

00:56:03.989 –> 00:56:07.989
on it. I’m not always huge on all British humor.

00:56:08.429 –> 00:56:11.889
But the British humor in this specific cartoon,

00:56:12.070 –> 00:56:14.449
similar to Count Ducula, just really worked for

00:56:14.449 –> 00:56:18.090
me. And it kind of feels like a cartoon, almost

00:56:18.090 –> 00:56:23.010
like Spy vs. Spy or 007 type thing. Yeah, and

00:56:23.010 –> 00:56:26.329
it definitely reminds you of the type of… Obviously,

00:56:26.329 –> 00:56:29.710
Nickelodeon in our time period was more well

00:56:29.710 –> 00:56:31.929
-known for game shows and more well -known for

00:56:31.929 –> 00:56:35.170
probably its live action in the early days. I

00:56:35.170 –> 00:56:37.539
know they did more… cartoons later on but like

00:56:37.539 –> 00:56:39.800
in the beginning it was much more about you know

00:56:39.800 –> 00:56:43.860
snick and and game shows and things of that nature

00:56:43.860 –> 00:56:46.000
there wasn’t a ton of cartoon stuff but this

00:56:46.000 –> 00:56:50.039
is very like symbolic of the type of animation

00:56:50.039 –> 00:56:55.260
that existed they they like to do some more non

00:56:55.260 –> 00:56:57.920
-traditional a little bit more off the beaten

00:56:57.920 –> 00:57:00.460
path animation and some of their even some of

00:57:00.460 –> 00:57:02.159
their other shows so this fit right in with like

00:57:02.159 –> 00:57:06.659
early nickelodeon to me Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

00:57:06.980 –> 00:57:09.039
I don’t know how much of a player Nickelodeon

00:57:09.039 –> 00:57:10.719
will be on this countdown. It’ll have to be something

00:57:10.719 –> 00:57:13.440
we track. Like I said, I may not be the first

00:57:13.440 –> 00:57:15.000
place you think of when you think of animated

00:57:15.000 –> 00:57:16.800
series, but we’ll have to see how many entrants

00:57:16.800 –> 00:57:19.679
come from the world of Nickelodeon over the course

00:57:19.679 –> 00:57:24.380
of this countdown. Yep. Right. So we were at

00:57:24.380 –> 00:57:26.940
Hanna -Barbera a second ago. Let’s go back there

00:57:26.940 –> 00:57:31.630
next. 92. Their mission to fight injustice, to

00:57:31.630 –> 00:57:34.889
right that which is wrong, and to serve all mankind.

00:57:36.690 –> 00:57:41.070
All right, for our number 92, we go back to Hanna

00:57:41.070 –> 00:57:43.090
-Barbera and another show that originally debuted

00:57:43.090 –> 00:57:47.730
on ABC. This one has dropped more than any show

00:57:47.730 –> 00:57:51.349
that we have talked about today. It was ranked

00:57:51.349 –> 00:57:56.889
40 last time. It falls to 92. this time so a

00:57:56.889 –> 00:58:01.170
drop of 52 places for the conglomerate known

00:58:01.170 –> 00:58:05.469
as super friends which debuted in the 70s so

00:58:05.469 –> 00:58:07.750
we had this 40 in our top 50 last time at number

00:58:07.750 –> 00:58:10.570
40 it drops all the way down to 92 i know in

00:58:10.570 –> 00:58:13.210
the nominee episodes we talked about this one

00:58:13.210 –> 00:58:16.670
specifically and if it was one that we had kind

00:58:16.670 –> 00:58:19.349
of targeted that could potentially fall all the

00:58:19.349 –> 00:58:22.250
way out of our top 100 it did not quite do that

00:58:22.250 –> 00:58:25.210
it made it to 92 start with you this time steve

00:58:25.519 –> 00:58:27.719
What do you think of Super Friends coming in

00:58:27.719 –> 00:58:31.000
here? Obviously, another one that, similar to

00:58:31.000 –> 00:58:34.760
Speed Racer, is it more important, culturally

00:58:34.760 –> 00:58:38.179
impactful, or influential to the genre versus

00:58:38.179 –> 00:58:41.059
good quality? Kind of like we talked about with

00:58:41.059 –> 00:58:43.139
Speed Racer, or where do you kind of land with

00:58:43.139 –> 00:58:47.000
Super Friends? I’m kind of torn because a lot

00:58:47.000 –> 00:58:52.219
of these old animated series were pretty hokey.

00:58:52.519 –> 00:58:57.190
I don’t know. it’s it’s to me it’s almost like

00:58:57.190 –> 00:58:59.949
it’s better than like Star Trek the animated

00:58:59.949 –> 00:59:04.690
series but it’s not great compared to what we

00:59:04.690 –> 00:59:06.650
got in the 90s I feel like we got spoiled in

00:59:06.650 –> 00:59:09.969
the 90s like we got quality like good writing

00:59:09.969 –> 00:59:13.110
good voice acting good animation like just all

00:59:13.110 –> 00:59:16.530
the way around it was good this I mean it works

00:59:16.530 –> 00:59:19.449
for the time but I don’t know if it necessarily

00:59:19.449 –> 00:59:22.329
translates to now to anything anybody’s gonna

00:59:22.329 –> 00:59:25.550
watch outside of us that kind of grew up with

00:59:25.550 –> 00:59:30.250
it or saw it on rerun somewhere or you know have

00:59:30.250 –> 00:59:32.070
the nostalgia for it I don’t I don’t see this

00:59:32.070 –> 00:59:35.349
one having the longevity of it so I can definitely

00:59:35.349 –> 00:59:39.510
see why it jumped this high in the list like

00:59:39.510 –> 00:59:41.929
I personally did not rank this one this time

00:59:41.929 –> 00:59:44.670
I don’t remember what I ranked last time but

00:59:44.670 –> 00:59:48.469
I I’m I’m pretty sure that I didn’t rank it either

00:59:48.469 –> 00:59:52.530
at that point so I’ve actually recently watched

00:59:52.530 –> 00:59:55.559
all I haven’t watched the obviously this had

00:59:55.559 –> 00:59:57.280
some like different titles for different seasons

00:59:57.280 –> 00:59:59.920
so can i run down those really quick since i’m

00:59:59.920 –> 01:00:01.940
i’m looking right at him if you must if you must

01:00:01.940 –> 01:00:06.500
all right so 1973 we had super friends in 77

01:00:06.500 –> 01:00:09.460
we had the all -new super friends hour in 78

01:00:09.460 –> 01:00:13.059
we had challenge of the super friends in 79 the

01:00:13.059 –> 01:00:16.760
world’s greatest super friends in 80 to 83 super

01:00:16.760 –> 01:00:22.070
friends And then in 84, Super Friends, the Legendary

01:00:22.070 –> 01:00:25.150
Superpowers Show. And then 85, the Galactic Guardians

01:00:25.150 –> 01:00:30.309
Superpowers Team. So those are everything under

01:00:30.309 –> 01:00:32.809
the banner. I have recently watched, in the last

01:00:32.809 –> 01:00:35.610
two years, I’ve watched all of the 80s episodes

01:00:35.610 –> 01:00:38.110
that appeared in all the different incarnations.

01:00:38.110 –> 01:00:41.530
So I’ve seen everything that aired in 1980 through

01:00:41.530 –> 01:00:44.429
the end of the run for this show. And there is

01:00:44.429 –> 01:00:47.010
some that is much better than others. I will

01:00:47.010 –> 01:00:49.579
get that. Like not all of it holds up to the

01:00:49.579 –> 01:00:51.800
same quality. And there’s definitely some seasons,

01:00:51.920 –> 01:00:54.340
quote unquote, that are better substantially

01:00:54.340 –> 01:00:58.139
than others. I think the reason I still kept

01:00:58.139 –> 01:01:01.019
this on mine, I had this ranked number 86, I

01:01:01.019 –> 01:01:02.900
believe, or somewhere in there. So I don’t think

01:01:02.900 –> 01:01:04.679
it belonged in the top 50 like we had it last

01:01:04.679 –> 01:01:07.539
time, but I still gave it a vote. And I think

01:01:07.539 –> 01:01:12.300
more so because this introduced DC heroes to

01:01:12.300 –> 01:01:16.610
like an entire couple generations of. like mass

01:01:16.610 –> 01:01:21.190
audiences and so to me how many people that watched

01:01:21.190 –> 01:01:25.849
a version of super friends then grew up to be

01:01:25.849 –> 01:01:31.530
involved in the dc universe whether it be in

01:01:31.530 –> 01:01:34.369
comic form or whether it be the sub -subsequential

01:01:34.369 –> 01:01:38.300
like series that we get like I feel like, you

01:01:38.300 –> 01:01:39.719
know, a lot of them had to have watched that.

01:01:39.760 –> 01:01:41.460
Maybe that was their introduction from an animation

01:01:41.460 –> 01:01:44.039
standpoint. And then we go on to get stuff like

01:01:44.039 –> 01:01:45.719
Batman, the animated series, Superman, the animated

01:01:45.719 –> 01:01:48.039
series, et cetera, et cetera. So like, I can’t

01:01:48.039 –> 01:01:52.139
downplay like that it adds some impact, but I

01:01:52.139 –> 01:01:54.880
do see the argument similar to speed racer that

01:01:54.880 –> 01:01:59.099
do you weigh impact or influence over overall

01:01:59.099 –> 01:02:01.219
quality? And like, where do you fall on that

01:02:01.219 –> 01:02:03.579
debate? So I can see both sides. So Mike, what

01:02:03.579 –> 01:02:07.019
do you think? Well, here’s the thing. A lot of

01:02:07.019 –> 01:02:11.099
people that, like Bruce Timm and Paul Dini and

01:02:11.099 –> 01:02:13.780
a lot of those guys that went on to create Batman

01:02:13.780 –> 01:02:17.219
the Animated Series and the entirety of the DCAU

01:02:17.219 –> 01:02:21.420
cartoons that we got in the 90s, they grew up

01:02:21.420 –> 01:02:25.340
on Super Friends, the first one in 1973. And

01:02:25.340 –> 01:02:30.480
in that voice cast, you have two of the very

01:02:30.480 –> 01:02:34.840
most important people. which are Olan Sol, who

01:02:34.840 –> 01:02:38.980
voices Batman, and Casey Kasem, who voices Robin.

01:02:40.039 –> 01:02:44.260
Now, say what you will about Casey Kasem voicing

01:02:44.260 –> 01:02:46.940
Robin. It is what it is, but that’s what happened.

01:02:47.260 –> 01:02:55.199
You have Ted Knight as the narrator. You’ve got

01:02:55.199 –> 01:02:57.679
John Stevenson as Colonel Wilcox. I’m looking

01:02:57.679 –> 01:03:00.500
for… frank welker’s in here as marvin white

01:03:00.500 –> 01:03:03.579
aka and also wonder dog i was trying to see where

01:03:03.579 –> 01:03:07.460
superman was unless it’s listed as a plastic

01:03:07.460 –> 01:03:13.340
man but like yeah you’ve got this specific the

01:03:13.340 –> 01:03:17.900
original 1973 version that probably affected

01:03:17.900 –> 01:03:22.980
a lot of people that went on to create comic

01:03:22.980 –> 01:03:27.380
books and create other things and i don’t No,

01:03:27.380 –> 01:03:30.340
like I remember watching the challenge, the 1978

01:03:30.340 –> 01:03:33.579
version challenge of the super friends. I don’t

01:03:33.579 –> 01:03:37.519
remember watching the other versions. I don’t

01:03:37.519 –> 01:03:40.420
remember any of the other versions other than

01:03:40.420 –> 01:03:44.260
those two, the 73 version and the 78 version.

01:03:44.860 –> 01:03:47.159
I don’t remember the later versions do a little

01:03:47.159 –> 01:03:48.659
bit more of the team up stuff. They introduced

01:03:48.659 –> 01:03:51.059
some different characters. So like you go from

01:03:51.059 –> 01:03:54.139
the wonder twins to like, there’s some. Yeah,

01:03:54.179 –> 01:03:56.539
I remember the Wonder Twins and stuff, but I

01:03:56.539 –> 01:03:58.960
don’t remember. Firestorm comes in in the 80s.

01:03:59.239 –> 01:04:03.900
I just don’t remember the names of the shows

01:04:03.900 –> 01:04:06.659
is what I’m saying. I remember some of the events

01:04:06.659 –> 01:04:10.019
of it, and I liked it for what it was when I

01:04:10.019 –> 01:04:17.559
was a kid, but I don’t know. You guys know how

01:04:17.559 –> 01:04:23.789
I am for the most part. Unfortunately. Sad. sad

01:04:23.789 –> 01:04:27.769
but i’m the type of person that i like i just

01:04:27.769 –> 01:04:30.130
mentioned earlier i will look at something and

01:04:30.130 –> 01:04:33.030
be like oh i now need to do a whole podcast series

01:04:33.030 –> 01:04:37.570
on this you know i’ve there is a episode by episode

01:04:37.570 –> 01:04:39.710
review of everyone in the 80s already on geekcast

01:04:39.710 –> 01:04:43.309
radio network no there isn’t yes there is i’ve

01:04:43.309 –> 01:04:45.050
already done a written review of every episode

01:04:45.050 –> 01:04:47.309
that aired in the 80s okay there’s a written

01:04:47.309 –> 01:04:49.670
review but there isn’t a podcast but you know

01:04:49.670 –> 01:04:52.679
what i’m saying like for me i i I don’t just

01:04:52.679 –> 01:04:55.219
watch things to watch them anymore. That’s my

01:04:55.219 –> 01:04:59.599
point. I watch things and then podcast about

01:04:59.599 –> 01:05:03.920
them. Right. So I don’t know if I could bring

01:05:03.920 –> 01:05:07.400
myself to do an episode by episode review of

01:05:07.400 –> 01:05:10.940
super friends or challenge of the super friends.

01:05:10.980 –> 01:05:15.679
Yeah. I might be able to do like a season or

01:05:15.679 –> 01:05:19.269
two. Maybe. yeah a lot of them were made up of

01:05:19.269 –> 01:05:20.969
very small segments so a lot of times you had

01:05:20.969 –> 01:05:23.329
like a seven or a ten minute like mini story

01:05:23.329 –> 01:05:25.590
and they had a couple of them per thing but yeah

01:05:25.590 –> 01:05:29.170
for sure so this did appear on five of the nine

01:05:29.170 –> 01:05:31.510
lists that we looked at as well so just like

01:05:31.510 –> 01:05:33.570
danger mouse it had some presence amongst the

01:05:33.570 –> 01:05:36.050
other lists so seems like some critical acclaim

01:05:36.050 –> 01:05:38.329
and universal love for for super friends i think

01:05:38.329 –> 01:05:40.570
the debate goes is historical impact more important

01:05:40.570 –> 01:05:43.409
than overall quality yes or no i don’t know so

01:05:44.059 –> 01:05:47.719
it’s a product of its time and it is a nice like

01:05:47.719 –> 01:05:51.119
it’s a nice thing to look at like oh my god i

01:05:51.119 –> 01:05:53.800
haven’t seen this in forever let me again it’s

01:05:53.800 –> 01:05:56.760
for me it’s one of those things oh i’m going

01:05:56.760 –> 01:05:59.260
to look at one or two or three like you said

01:05:59.260 –> 01:06:02.139
it’s made up of segments insert uh in the episode

01:06:02.139 –> 01:06:04.880
so hey let me watch a couple of segments of this

01:06:04.880 –> 01:06:08.880
to remind myself how cool this was at the time

01:06:08.880 –> 01:06:11.239
when i was a child like i remember watching this

01:06:11.239 –> 01:06:13.969
when i was five six and seven years old So it’s

01:06:13.969 –> 01:06:16.449
one of those things. It’s a product of its time.

01:06:17.329 –> 01:06:19.429
Absolutely. All right, before Mike finishes his

01:06:19.429 –> 01:06:21.710
dissertation, we’re going to make a move back

01:06:21.710 –> 01:06:26.530
to Nickelodeon for our next one. I’d have to

01:06:26.530 –> 01:06:29.909
take this opportunity to say, filthy earth creatures!

01:06:30.150 –> 01:06:33.250
It is clear who the superior species is! Isn’t

01:06:33.250 –> 01:06:39.199
it? Isn’t it? You stink! We are back to the world

01:06:39.199 –> 01:06:41.099
of Nickelodeon, but we’re going to jump in time.

01:06:41.280 –> 01:06:44.559
So we were at 1981 for Danger Mouse. For number

01:06:44.559 –> 01:06:46.840
91, we’re going to go all the way up to the year

01:06:46.840 –> 01:06:49.000
2001. I’m just trying to throw a lot of ones

01:06:49.000 –> 01:06:51.900
at y ‘all. This one was not ranked in our original

01:06:51.900 –> 01:06:56.739
list. It was 173rd, and now it makes it to 91st.

01:06:57.380 –> 01:07:01.019
From Nickelodeon, we are talking about Invader

01:07:01.019 –> 01:07:06.679
Zim. So Invader Zim. I do not have a ton of experience

01:07:06.679 –> 01:07:09.360
with this. I know it has a kind of a rabid fan

01:07:09.360 –> 01:07:14.019
base, kind of a cult following that got boosted

01:07:14.019 –> 01:07:16.679
because it got somewhat of a premature cancellation,

01:07:16.780 –> 01:07:19.239
I think, in a lot of people’s eyes. It has a

01:07:19.239 –> 01:07:21.900
little bit more of a dark, unique tone compared

01:07:21.900 –> 01:07:24.780
to some other stuff that we had gotten before

01:07:24.780 –> 01:07:27.860
that. I did not have this one ranked personally.

01:07:28.460 –> 01:07:31.559
Steve, any thoughts on Invader Zim? I didn’t

01:07:31.559 –> 01:07:35.320
personally have this one listed either. We all

01:07:35.320 –> 01:07:39.139
suck. Well, it did have an 8 .4 out of 10 on

01:07:39.139 –> 01:07:43.599
IMDb, 94 % like the show and then 100 % on Rotten

01:07:43.599 –> 01:07:46.019
Tomatoes. So obviously there’s something there.

01:07:46.179 –> 01:07:51.820
Yeah, I don’t love the concept of it. Like, I

01:07:51.820 –> 01:07:53.579
don’t love the animation either. And so this

01:07:53.579 –> 01:07:59.130
is again, like I mentioned in the. in the premiere

01:07:59.130 –> 01:08:02.570
episodes where we were kind of showing what we

01:08:02.570 –> 01:08:05.809
kind of garnered towards. It’s a Nickelodeon

01:08:05.809 –> 01:08:09.449
show. I don’t have a love for a lot of those.

01:08:09.650 –> 01:08:13.050
Now, it does have Richard Stephen Horvitz, who

01:08:13.050 –> 01:08:18.430
played like Alpha 5. Yep. In Power Rangers. He

01:08:18.430 –> 01:08:20.590
also was in like Billy and Mandy. He was in,

01:08:20.649 –> 01:08:23.350
you know, the Shrek movie, Angry Beavers, you

01:08:23.350 –> 01:08:25.470
know, a lot of other stuff that people would

01:08:25.470 –> 01:08:28.779
know him for. And then you get Wally Wingard,

01:08:28.939 –> 01:08:31.800
you get a bunch of different other people. I

01:08:31.800 –> 01:08:42.779
feel like it’s a bit annoying, but yeah. You’ll

01:08:42.779 –> 01:08:45.500
have to let us know in the comments on this episode

01:08:45.500 –> 01:08:49.359
post of what your defense for Invader Zim is.

01:08:49.460 –> 01:08:52.140
Do you guys think it’s worthy, not worthy? If

01:08:52.140 –> 01:08:55.039
so, where should it fall? I understand the cult

01:08:55.039 –> 01:08:57.220
following. I just don’t have the experience.

01:08:57.340 –> 01:08:59.060
We tried to do our homework on a lot of these

01:08:59.060 –> 01:09:01.239
and watched five episodes or eight episodes of

01:09:01.239 –> 01:09:03.520
different things. This is not one that I made

01:09:03.520 –> 01:09:05.460
my way to. I just had too many other stuff I

01:09:05.460 –> 01:09:06.899
was trying to catch up with, and it fell through

01:09:06.899 –> 01:09:09.920
the cracks. So I wasn’t able to do my homework,

01:09:10.060 –> 01:09:11.760
but it did appear on four of the nine lists we

01:09:11.760 –> 01:09:13.380
talked about. Mike, final thoughts on Invader

01:09:13.380 –> 01:09:17.100
Zim? Yeah, same here. No homework for me. I had

01:09:17.100 –> 01:09:20.520
too much other homework I had to do. So another

01:09:20.520 –> 01:09:23.159
Nickelodeon show makes the countdown. That’s

01:09:23.159 –> 01:09:25.020
the end of the first 10 that we’ve revealed.

01:09:25.140 –> 01:09:27.390
Let’s see what we… do where we go when we start

01:09:27.390 –> 01:09:34.270
here with the next one 90 hey paisanos next up

01:09:34.270 –> 01:09:37.210
on the countdown we’re into our top 90 now this

01:09:37.210 –> 01:09:41.029
was a cartoon that appeared on our list last

01:09:41.029 –> 01:09:43.909
time but it has fallen 23 spots from its previous

01:09:43.909 –> 01:09:50.670
placements from saban and deke this is a syndicated

01:09:50.670 –> 01:09:56.340
show that’s debuted in 1989 We’re talking, it’s

01:09:56.340 –> 01:09:59.079
our second, no, our first 1989 show, our third

01:09:59.079 –> 01:10:01.840
or fourth 1980 show overall. We’re talking about

01:10:01.840 –> 01:10:05.800
the Super Mario Brothers Super Show. Ah, the

01:10:05.800 –> 01:10:10.279
Super Show. It fell from 67 to 90. Didn’t quite

01:10:10.279 –> 01:10:11.939
fall out of the countdown. Mike, what do you

01:10:11.939 –> 01:10:15.600
think of this one? I love it. Obviously, this

01:10:15.600 –> 01:10:18.140
has that hybrid format, which has part cartoons,

01:10:18.300 –> 01:10:20.300
some little live action wraparounds and introductions,

01:10:20.359 –> 01:10:22.949
which was… somewhat unique so i guess it kind

01:10:22.949 –> 01:10:25.010
of did some things there that were interesting

01:10:25.010 –> 01:10:28.010
it was also an early video game adaptation i

01:10:28.010 –> 01:10:29.890
can see some people making the argument that

01:10:29.890 –> 01:10:32.949
it doesn’t belong mike where do you fall on that

01:10:32.949 –> 01:10:36.630
no i love this show this this definitely belongs

01:10:36.630 –> 01:10:40.770
uh for what it’s worth my five -year -old has

01:10:40.770 –> 01:10:43.050
watched a few of these episodes just recently

01:10:43.050 –> 01:10:46.390
and actually really enjoyed them my my kids did

01:10:46.390 –> 01:10:49.510
too must work even though it’s from 1989 she

01:10:49.510 –> 01:10:52.369
thought she was in there laughing her face off

01:10:52.369 –> 01:10:54.949
and thought it was hilarious and watched more

01:10:54.949 –> 01:10:59.050
than i expected her to and the the sad thing

01:10:59.050 –> 01:11:04.810
is the last time we did this uh well actually

01:11:04.810 –> 01:11:08.689
both times i didn’t realize wow he died that

01:11:08.689 –> 01:11:17.130
long ago uh so just before we did the first countdown

01:11:18.569 –> 01:11:22.569
Captain Lou Albano, who is Mario in this, died

01:11:22.569 –> 01:11:28.529
October 14th, 2009. And just after we did the

01:11:28.529 –> 01:11:31.770
first countdown, Danny Wells, who plays Luigi

01:11:31.770 –> 01:11:35.529
in the live action, died November 28th, 2013.

01:11:35.789 –> 01:11:40.310
Now, I thought Danny Wells died a lot later than

01:11:40.310 –> 01:11:47.600
2013. But yeah, no. Absolutely love this show.

01:11:47.659 –> 01:11:49.880
The coolest thing, I remember everything about

01:11:49.880 –> 01:11:52.960
this show. I don’t need to do any research, even

01:11:52.960 –> 01:11:55.000
though I’m sitting here on the Wikipedia page

01:11:55.000 –> 01:11:59.560
for the show. TV’s Mr. Neal and I did a whole

01:11:59.560 –> 01:12:02.439
podcast, Pixels and the Animation on the Geekcast

01:12:02.439 –> 01:12:04.880
Radio Network. We covered all of the episodes

01:12:04.880 –> 01:12:09.819
for this show and others. But I remember watching

01:12:09.819 –> 01:12:12.739
this show as a kid. I was nine years old in 1989.

01:12:16.489 –> 01:12:20.329
The coolest thing about this show running five

01:12:20.329 –> 01:12:24.090
days a week, Monday through Thursday, you got

01:12:24.090 –> 01:12:27.090
Mario and Luigi just as they are, Captain Lou

01:12:27.090 –> 01:12:30.970
Albano and Danny Wells just as they are, and

01:12:30.970 –> 01:12:34.489
you got four Mario cartoons Monday through Thursday.

01:12:34.930 –> 01:12:39.930
On Fridays, you still got them, but then you

01:12:39.930 –> 01:12:43.840
got The Legend of Zelda. And then Monday rolls

01:12:43.840 –> 01:12:46.380
around. You’re like, wait, where’s Zelda? Damn

01:12:46.380 –> 01:12:51.500
it. I want more Zelda. So they ran Zelda every

01:12:51.500 –> 01:12:55.479
Friday. And it is the one of, if not the best,

01:12:55.479 –> 01:12:57.880
I think is one of the only Zelda cartoons they’ve

01:12:57.880 –> 01:13:02.739
ever made. It is the best Legend of Zelda animated

01:13:02.739 –> 01:13:07.619
thing they’ve ever done. And man, I love that

01:13:07.619 –> 01:13:11.039
series. It is so cool. Absolutely love this series.

01:13:11.720 –> 01:13:13.819
You said it dropped how many spots since the

01:13:13.819 –> 01:13:17.680
last time we did this? 23. What’s wrong with

01:13:17.680 –> 01:13:22.180
you people? Not you guys. Not you guys. No, I’m

01:13:22.180 –> 01:13:24.439
going to say something. It went from 67 down

01:13:24.439 –> 01:13:28.460
to 90. I didn’t rank it. I didn’t have room for

01:13:28.460 –> 01:13:30.899
it in my top 100. No, no, no. I wasn’t talking

01:13:30.899 –> 01:13:33.539
about you. I was talking about the other 23 people.

01:13:33.739 –> 01:13:38.659
I don’t know. I don’t know if it has like…

01:13:38.810 –> 01:13:40.970
I for the me the combination like I don’t know

01:13:40.970 –> 01:13:43.510
if it has the quality that deserves top 100 and

01:13:43.510 –> 01:13:45.449
I don’t know if it has the influence I think

01:13:45.449 –> 01:13:47.829
it has some nostalgia and I guess maybe a little

01:13:47.829 –> 01:13:49.609
bit of uniqueness when it comes to video game

01:13:49.609 –> 01:13:51.409
adaptations but I don’t know if I see it as a

01:13:51.409 –> 01:13:56.810
top 100 show so it does have the uniqueness and

01:13:56.810 –> 01:14:00.390
it it does have the quality the uniqueness part

01:14:00.390 –> 01:14:06.170
is I just don’t know if I’ve put it in like Steve

01:14:06.170 –> 01:14:08.779
so the video games haven’t They’ve both dropped

01:14:08.779 –> 01:14:10.439
quite a bit. Captain N dropped right out of the

01:14:10.439 –> 01:14:15.539
countdown. They went from 80 or 79 to off of

01:14:15.539 –> 01:14:17.720
the countdown. And then we have Super Mario Bros.

01:14:17.859 –> 01:14:21.279
Super Show goes from 67 to 90. So both have dropped

01:14:21.279 –> 01:14:23.560
kind of precipitously. What do you think of the

01:14:23.560 –> 01:14:27.319
Super Mario Bros. Super Show? So I did list this

01:14:27.319 –> 01:14:30.020
on my list. Actually, my new list here, I have

01:14:30.020 –> 01:14:32.079
it. I don’t even remember what my old list was.

01:14:32.180 –> 01:14:35.119
But this one, I had it listed at 85. So I’m not

01:14:35.119 –> 01:14:40.229
that far off. It wasn’t it wasn’t that it was

01:14:40.229 –> 01:14:43.810
this stellar show. I think it was because. Out

01:14:43.810 –> 01:14:46.810
of all the different video game series, I picked

01:14:46.810 –> 01:14:49.050
this one because I enjoyed it the most and I

01:14:49.050 –> 01:14:52.390
can still kind of sit down and watch it. Like

01:14:52.390 –> 01:14:54.489
one of my sons had in his top 20, the other one

01:14:54.489 –> 01:14:58.689
had in his top 35, which is probably why it’s

01:14:58.689 –> 01:15:03.949
even on the list. They found it enjoyable. They

01:15:03.949 –> 01:15:05.569
really liked the show. And then, you know, they

01:15:05.569 –> 01:15:07.810
found the part where they do the hybrid thing

01:15:07.810 –> 01:15:13.250
kind of weird. But and to that degree, I kind

01:15:13.250 –> 01:15:16.149
of agree. Like I it was kind of a staple of some

01:15:16.149 –> 01:15:18.170
of the 80s shows, you know, the Ed Grimley type

01:15:18.170 –> 01:15:25.869
thing. I don’t. I don’t I don’t know if like

01:15:25.869 –> 01:15:29.789
any of these old. cartoons i know i have it on

01:15:29.789 –> 01:15:31.770
my list but i don’t know if any of them really

01:15:31.770 –> 01:15:34.649
stand the test of time i think out of the different

01:15:34.649 –> 01:15:37.989
ones that came out in the 80s this is this one

01:15:37.989 –> 01:15:40.109
or the super mario world are the only ones i

01:15:40.109 –> 01:15:43.470
would actually pick uh the other reason i kind

01:15:43.470 –> 01:15:46.369
of put it in here was because the new super mario

01:15:46.369 –> 01:15:50.369
brothers film actually used the theme song from

01:15:50.369 –> 01:15:55.590
this show and so i feel like if people are searching

01:15:55.590 –> 01:15:57.369
it out they’ll be like oh wait what is what’s

01:15:57.369 –> 01:15:59.710
this and you know it’ll get some kind of a small

01:15:59.710 –> 01:16:02.710
resurgence for this one alone because of the

01:16:02.710 –> 01:16:05.170
theme that’s in the movie and that’s why I put

01:16:05.170 –> 01:16:07.850
it on for my daughter so 100 % and that’s why

01:16:07.850 –> 01:16:12.130
I kind of introduced it and why I think this

01:16:12.130 –> 01:16:15.510
one alone stands out but as a whole like none

01:16:15.510 –> 01:16:18.569
of these 80s animated series that are video games

01:16:18.569 –> 01:16:21.069
stand the test of time which is why they’re making

01:16:21.069 –> 01:16:23.510
them all movies and Nintendo is heavily involved

01:16:23.510 –> 01:16:27.020
in them now to make sure that they have the quality

01:16:27.020 –> 01:16:31.560
and the standards of the games. And so in that

01:16:31.560 –> 01:16:36.500
regard, the newer stuff’s better. But if I had

01:16:36.500 –> 01:16:38.779
to pick any of the old 80s shows, this would

01:16:38.779 –> 01:16:41.079
be it for me. I’m interested to see what other

01:16:41.079 –> 01:16:44.020
people comment on when it comes to Super Mario

01:16:44.020 –> 01:16:45.859
Bros. Super Show, as well as all the other shows

01:16:45.859 –> 01:16:48.100
that are being revealed in this episode, see

01:16:48.100 –> 01:16:49.779
which ones they like and which ones they don’t

01:16:49.779 –> 01:16:51.420
like that we’re revealing. It should be interesting.

01:16:52.079 –> 01:16:55.119
All right. Let’s go away from Super Mario Brothers

01:16:55.119 –> 01:16:59.640
Super Show and the 80s into a first, I think,

01:16:59.680 –> 01:17:03.000
a first entrance from the 2010s to now. Coming

01:17:03.000 –> 01:17:08.359
up next. 89. Flood from cosmic shores. Gaze upon

01:17:08.359 –> 01:17:14.840
Dark Inner John. All right. Like I said, this

01:17:14.840 –> 01:17:18.800
is our first entrant from 2010 onward. So just

01:17:18.800 –> 01:17:22.079
hitting that cut because it is from 2010. um

01:17:22.079 –> 01:17:24.619
this is one that i had ranked i had it ranked

01:17:24.619 –> 01:17:27.699
at 97 obviously was not ranked originally since

01:17:27.699 –> 01:17:31.779
it didn’t exist yet interested to see the reaction

01:17:31.779 –> 01:17:34.279
we get from listeners when it comes to this one

01:17:34.279 –> 01:17:36.779
and i’m also interested to hear what your guys’s

01:17:36.779 –> 01:17:41.140
take on if this one is appearing how this franchise

01:17:41.140 –> 01:17:44.079
will fare overall we know there’s a bias here

01:17:44.079 –> 01:17:48.319
let’s go with our first cartoon from the world

01:17:48.319 –> 01:17:52.239
of the transformers this is 2010’s Transformers

01:17:52.239 –> 01:17:56.319
Prime at number 89. Steve, what do you think

01:17:56.319 –> 01:17:59.300
of Transformers Prime making it into our top

01:17:59.300 –> 01:18:03.920
100? To be honest, I’m kind of surprised that

01:18:03.920 –> 01:18:09.239
it made it at this spot. It is pretty good, but

01:18:09.239 –> 01:18:11.359
I do feel like it’s an acquired taste. It’s very

01:18:11.359 –> 01:18:17.140
dark. We did get Frank Walker and Peter Cullen.

01:18:17.710 –> 01:18:19.670
reprising their roles, which was awesome. We

01:18:19.670 –> 01:18:24.069
got Steve Bloom as Starscream. I mean, there’s

01:18:24.069 –> 01:18:29.029
a lot of iconic voice actors in this show. And

01:18:29.029 –> 01:18:31.529
the show is pretty good, but I feel like it also

01:18:31.529 –> 01:18:36.489
kind of lost its way the longer it went. So I

01:18:36.489 –> 01:18:41.510
can see why it’s as high as it is or low, depending

01:18:41.510 –> 01:18:45.949
on how you’re looking at it. Are you surprised

01:18:45.949 –> 01:18:48.689
that it’s in our top 100? I’m not surprised it

01:18:48.689 –> 01:18:52.229
is it is top 100 worthy more than I would say

01:18:52.229 –> 01:18:55.029
probably the you know the rescue bots or things

01:18:55.029 –> 01:18:58.550
like that because each each version of Transformers

01:18:58.550 –> 01:19:01.590
has its own flavor and we have I mean we’ve had

01:19:01.590 –> 01:19:04.989
multiple multiple series but I feel like this

01:19:04.989 –> 01:19:09.189
and animated were kind of the last I would say

01:19:09.189 –> 01:19:12.369
good series we got because it’s it’s been kind

01:19:12.369 –> 01:19:15.179
of floundering with a bunch of random series

01:19:15.179 –> 01:19:20.220
that have various issues, whether it’s. Or writing

01:19:20.220 –> 01:19:24.399
or not long enough episodes or the voice cast

01:19:24.399 –> 01:19:29.000
is kind of mediocre or. Voice direction is terrible.

01:19:30.720 –> 01:19:32.899
It’s been plagued by a lot of those different

01:19:32.899 –> 01:19:36.399
things, so I feel like this is the last good.

01:19:37.220 –> 01:19:41.100
CG series we’ve gotten. So I do feel like it’s

01:19:41.100 –> 01:19:44.289
top 100 worthy. Yeah, this one debuted on The

01:19:44.289 –> 01:19:46.489
Hub, and I’m going to tell you both sides, in

01:19:46.489 –> 01:19:49.050
my opinion, of what this is. So I think on one

01:19:49.050 –> 01:19:50.590
side, you’re going to have people that say it’s

01:19:50.590 –> 01:19:53.630
top 100 worthy because this is probably, some

01:19:53.630 –> 01:19:55.470
people would make the argument that this is kind

01:19:55.470 –> 01:19:58.630
of peak Transformers storytelling. That’s strong

01:19:58.630 –> 01:20:01.310
character writing, that it’s one of the most

01:20:01.310 –> 01:20:03.550
complete versions of Transformers we got, and

01:20:03.550 –> 01:20:05.449
it has that cinematic tone. That’s going to be

01:20:05.449 –> 01:20:07.569
one camp. The other camp is going to say that

01:20:07.569 –> 01:20:09.489
we’re biased towards Transformers shows. Mike,

01:20:09.630 –> 01:20:12.920
what do you think? 89. Okay, 89. This should

01:20:12.920 –> 01:20:19.340
at least be 86. Hurry up. But anyway, look, this

01:20:19.340 –> 01:20:22.380
show, when it came out, when it debuted, it was

01:20:22.380 –> 01:20:25.199
super cool. It was awesome to get Peter and Frank

01:20:25.199 –> 01:20:30.279
back. I understand a lot of people were skeptical

01:20:30.279 –> 01:20:34.399
at the time with the CGI stuff. A lot of people,

01:20:34.479 –> 01:20:36.720
because, you know, you’re going from animated

01:20:36.720 –> 01:20:40.449
style to this. and a lot of people were skeptical

01:20:40.449 –> 01:20:43.470
about that but this definitely does deserve a

01:20:43.470 –> 01:20:45.430
spot like i said i think it should be at least

01:20:45.430 –> 01:20:51.949
three spots higher but is the civic that’s the

01:20:51.949 –> 01:20:54.310
most specific critique i’ve ever heard this one

01:20:54.310 –> 01:20:56.810
he wants it to be 86 like transformers the movie

01:20:56.810 –> 01:21:00.510
exactly oh my god so hey i read between mike’s

01:21:00.510 –> 01:21:04.489
lines because i talked to him exactly i try to

01:21:04.489 –> 01:21:07.369
avoid mike’s lines and reading i know exactly

01:21:07.369 –> 01:21:10.369
you’ve been trying to avoid my lines since 2009

01:21:10.369 –> 01:21:14.310
yeah anyway uh so it’s one year before this show

01:21:14.310 –> 01:21:19.949
came out i know right anyway wait yeah you’re

01:21:19.949 –> 01:21:25.210
right it was um so yeah i i like it i think it’s

01:21:25.210 –> 01:21:27.930
a good show i think it does deserve to be on

01:21:27.930 –> 01:21:31.199
the countdown as far as how many other Transformers

01:21:31.199 –> 01:21:34.420
shows are going to be on the countdown. Don’t

01:21:34.420 –> 01:21:36.979
you people know who we are? We’re the podcast

01:21:36.979 –> 01:21:39.180
radio network. Of course, there’s going to be

01:21:39.180 –> 01:21:41.359
other Transformers shows on this countdown. I

01:21:41.359 –> 01:21:42.899
feel like there’s non -Transformers fans that

01:21:42.899 –> 01:21:45.079
hear Transformers Prime at 89 and they’re like,

01:21:45.100 –> 01:21:49.500
uh -oh. Well, yeah. Here we go. Hello? Don’t

01:21:49.500 –> 01:21:51.439
you know who we are by now? We’ve been online

01:21:51.439 –> 01:21:54.899
for almost 17 years. Now, if Beast Wars doesn’t

01:21:54.899 –> 01:21:57.470
make the list, I’m… filing a formal protest

01:21:57.470 –> 01:22:00.449
he’s gonna riot we’ll give you the we’ll give

01:22:00.449 –> 01:22:03.210
you the name of the founder of the website well

01:22:03.210 –> 01:22:06.829
that’s him he he can’t yeah he can’t he can’t

01:22:06.829 –> 01:22:09.529
riot on himself he can’t go all beast mode on

01:22:09.529 –> 01:22:13.050
an interesting live show all right it lands double

01:22:13.050 –> 01:22:17.210
zero from one franchise to another let’s see

01:22:17.210 –> 01:22:22.409
where we go next 88 an adventure begins and a

01:22:22.409 –> 01:22:27.180
legend is born The Dragon Balls have been scattered,

01:22:27.279 –> 01:22:29.819
and it’s up to Goku and friends to collect them.

01:22:29.960 –> 01:22:36.180
Witness the birth of the Dragon Ball Saga. It’ll

01:22:36.180 –> 01:22:38.020
be interesting also to see what people think

01:22:38.020 –> 01:22:41.039
as this one makes its debut into our countdown.

01:22:41.199 –> 01:22:43.220
It was eligible last time, but didn’t quite make

01:22:43.220 –> 01:22:47.100
it. It was ranked 143rd last time. It climbs

01:22:47.100 –> 01:22:49.920
all the way up to 88 this time. So one of those

01:22:49.920 –> 01:22:52.010
that we didn’t consider. When we were doing all

01:22:52.010 –> 01:22:54.470
our speculation, the shows that got votes last

01:22:54.470 –> 01:22:57.729
time, that would actually rise up the rankings.

01:22:57.829 –> 01:23:01.449
So this one came over to us in 1986. How about

01:23:01.449 –> 01:23:04.010
another anime entry into our countdown? This

01:23:04.010 –> 01:23:09.930
is the original Dragon Ball. 1986 syndicated

01:23:09.930 –> 01:23:12.770
from Harmony Gold here. I’m going to start with

01:23:12.770 –> 01:23:14.630
Steve because he’s the most knowledgeable person

01:23:14.630 –> 01:23:16.550
we have when it comes to the universe that is

01:23:16.550 –> 01:23:20.180
Dragon Ball. So the first series makes its appearance

01:23:20.180 –> 01:23:23.180
here at number 88. What are your thoughts? I

01:23:23.180 –> 01:23:25.659
think it’s awesome because this show is what

01:23:25.659 –> 01:23:32.920
spawned a lot of the fighting action anime that

01:23:32.920 –> 01:23:35.619
came to America, even though it’s not as widely

01:23:35.619 –> 01:23:38.979
known. Yeah, not just for Dragon Ball either.

01:23:39.119 –> 01:23:41.680
This is the foundation of a global anime fandom.

01:23:42.760 –> 01:23:45.640
Yeah, totally. And they they dubbed it and they’ve

01:23:45.640 –> 01:23:48.300
it’s been redubbed with the same voice cast is

01:23:48.300 –> 01:23:51.260
like Dragon Ball Z. When they redid all of that,

01:23:51.359 –> 01:23:55.840
they kind of have this unified voice front. You

01:23:55.840 –> 01:23:59.500
know, it starts off. You can you can kind of

01:23:59.500 –> 01:24:02.960
tell he’s rewriting. The continuity as he goes

01:24:02.960 –> 01:24:07.460
on some of it, but it’s it’s very. Story based

01:24:07.460 –> 01:24:10.659
character based like Goku’s, you know, this optimist

01:24:10.659 –> 01:24:13.010
that kind of picks up. friends along the way

01:24:13.010 –> 01:24:16.789
and you find out his story slowly as you know

01:24:16.789 –> 01:24:19.270
his friends kind of peel back the the onion that’s

01:24:19.270 –> 01:24:22.689
his life uh and you find out that he’s not actually

01:24:22.689 –> 01:24:26.510
human but they don’t know that he’s not like

01:24:26.510 –> 01:24:30.189
they they don’t know why he has the tail or turns

01:24:30.189 –> 01:24:34.250
into the uh the giant uzaru monkey uh when the

01:24:34.250 –> 01:24:36.729
the moon comes out and you don’t find out until

01:24:36.729 –> 01:24:38.869
dragon ball z that he’s a saying like that didn’t

01:24:38.869 –> 01:24:43.050
even exist until that point but You get to meet

01:24:43.050 –> 01:24:45.090
a lot of the main cast that kind of stick through

01:24:45.090 –> 01:24:47.189
and have been with the series since the very

01:24:47.189 –> 01:24:50.489
beginning and find out how they went from…

01:24:50.489 –> 01:24:52.949
Pretty much everybody Goku fights goes from enemy

01:24:52.949 –> 01:24:58.029
to friend by the end of that arc. So it’s been…

01:24:58.029 –> 01:25:02.090
There’s a lot of comedy in it. There’s a lot

01:25:02.090 –> 01:25:03.989
of things that wouldn’t get displayed on TV now.

01:25:05.270 –> 01:25:07.489
Namely, when Goku’s running around butt naked.

01:25:09.420 –> 01:25:11.319
Like there’s literally scenes where you see his

01:25:11.319 –> 01:25:13.600
butt or his balls. Like it’s just it’s weird.

01:25:14.359 –> 01:25:19.760
It would not get displayed on TV now. But yeah,

01:25:19.800 –> 01:25:21.979
like you get to meet Bulma, Yamcha, Tien, like

01:25:21.979 –> 01:25:24.079
all these other characters with Goku. But it’s

01:25:24.079 –> 01:25:27.460
it’s very much the story of him and his goal

01:25:27.460 –> 01:25:30.420
of becoming stronger and a better fighter. And

01:25:30.420 –> 01:25:35.199
it continues on through even. Dragon Ball Super,

01:25:35.359 –> 01:25:38.460
though. It’s definitely a foundational series.

01:25:38.619 –> 01:25:43.220
And I think that to have any other Dragon Ball

01:25:43.220 –> 01:25:47.880
series, like if you I love Dragon Ball Z. To

01:25:47.880 –> 01:25:50.239
me, it’s like my favorite. That was my intro

01:25:50.239 –> 01:25:55.079
to the whole anime sphere. But to not have Dragon

01:25:55.079 –> 01:25:57.439
Ball on the list is kind of a disservice to all

01:25:57.439 –> 01:25:59.939
anime and especially the Dragon Ball franchise,

01:26:00.100 –> 01:26:04.300
because some argue that it is the best that we

01:26:04.300 –> 01:26:07.939
got storytelling wise. Yeah. And I think from

01:26:07.939 –> 01:26:09.600
a foundational standpoint, we’ve had that a number

01:26:09.600 –> 01:26:12.319
of times so far in today’s episode from Speed

01:26:12.319 –> 01:26:16.159
Racer and Robotech in a way to Gummy Bears to

01:26:16.159 –> 01:26:19.020
Super Friends. I think Dragon Ball kind of fits

01:26:19.020 –> 01:26:21.539
in that same realm of like being influential

01:26:21.539 –> 01:26:25.500
for what comes after it as well. So it sounds

01:26:25.500 –> 01:26:26.760
like it might have a little bit more quality

01:26:26.760 –> 01:26:28.659
in and of itself than maybe a couple of other

01:26:28.659 –> 01:26:31.399
ones did. But the history, I think, plays a part

01:26:31.399 –> 01:26:32.739
as well. Mike, what do you think about Dragon

01:26:32.739 –> 01:26:36.189
Ball coming in here at number 88? never seen

01:26:36.189 –> 01:26:39.729
it all right i figured that was the case but

01:26:39.729 –> 01:26:43.630
uh wanted to check anyway so all right we’re

01:26:43.630 –> 01:26:46.050
gonna take a break from dragon ball and let’s

01:26:46.050 –> 01:26:49.109
go to our what will end up being our most recent

01:26:49.109 –> 01:26:53.350
show to make the entire list coming up next 87

01:26:53.350 –> 01:26:59.970
we have to stay vigilant to me my x -men magneto

01:27:00.600 –> 01:27:03.859
The last will and testament of Charles Xavier.

01:27:04.619 –> 01:27:11.260
Everything he built now belongs to me. No yet,

01:27:11.319 –> 01:27:13.800
Mike. This is the most recent show that is going

01:27:13.800 –> 01:27:18.579
to make our entire list. This is from 2024. So

01:27:18.579 –> 01:27:21.140
there will be no shows that came out in 2025

01:27:21.140 –> 01:27:24.640
that make our list. So from 2024, we’ve already

01:27:24.640 –> 01:27:27.600
had one DC show. So let’s have our first Marvel

01:27:27.600 –> 01:27:33.090
show. Coming in at number 87 is X -Men 97. So

01:27:33.090 –> 01:27:35.609
it’s from Marvel. I believe it originally aired

01:27:35.609 –> 01:27:39.970
on Disney+. Coming in here at number 87, X -Men

01:27:39.970 –> 01:27:44.329
97. Mike, what do you think? Yeah, it’s a continuation

01:27:44.329 –> 01:27:48.869
of X -Men, the animated series from 1992. X -Men

01:27:48.869 –> 01:27:52.890
97, the one thing that gets talked about right

01:27:52.890 –> 01:27:56.899
now is that… it’s very good for what’s come

01:27:56.899 –> 01:27:59.760
out so far. And the cliffhanger that a lot of

01:27:59.760 –> 01:28:02.439
people are left with is they think it has the

01:28:02.439 –> 01:28:05.020
potential to be even better than X -Men, the

01:28:05.020 –> 01:28:06.859
animated series, or at least elevate that to

01:28:06.859 –> 01:28:08.880
a certain point. But then the other side of the

01:28:08.880 –> 01:28:10.420
coin, I’ll try to finish a sentence before you

01:28:10.420 –> 01:28:12.739
go, Mike, let me, let me try. But the other side

01:28:12.739 –> 01:28:15.920
of the coin is that, is it too new? And do we

01:28:15.920 –> 01:28:18.460
need to wait until it finishes before it becomes

01:28:18.460 –> 01:28:21.300
top 100 worthy or not? That’s the question. Go

01:28:21.300 –> 01:28:24.789
ahead, Mike. Well, the thing of it is, is we

01:28:24.789 –> 01:28:27.930
decided to separate it from X -Men, the animated

01:28:27.930 –> 01:28:30.729
series, even though technically it is a continuation

01:28:30.729 –> 01:28:35.850
of X -Men, the animated series. The thing of

01:28:35.850 –> 01:28:38.590
it is, is there is only currently one season

01:28:38.590 –> 01:28:42.949
that’s available, which is 10 episodes. The second

01:28:42.949 –> 01:28:46.069
season is supposed to come out mid this year

01:28:46.069 –> 01:28:50.090
at some point. I thought the second season was

01:28:50.090 –> 01:28:55.050
already out for some odd reason. uh the 10 episodes

01:28:55.050 –> 01:29:04.149
are very good i don’t know if it’s stop 100 worthy

01:29:04.149 –> 01:29:09.289
and coming in where where are we at now 87 87

01:29:09.289 –> 01:29:13.670
should have been way lower this honestly flip

01:29:13.670 –> 01:29:17.710
-flop 100 in this steve what does this mean for

01:29:17.710 –> 01:29:21.289
the superhero segment of our So we’ve seen a

01:29:21.289 –> 01:29:23.409
couple now already. So just two, we’ve had super

01:29:23.409 –> 01:29:26.189
friends at 92. We’ve had X -Men 97 at 87. Does

01:29:26.189 –> 01:29:29.029
this mean there’s a lot still to come or what

01:29:29.029 –> 01:29:31.050
do you think the impact of X -Men 97 showing

01:29:31.050 –> 01:29:36.689
up on our countdown is? So I, I understood like

01:29:36.689 –> 01:29:40.449
some people were, were asking, and this was in

01:29:40.449 –> 01:29:45.029
the fan vote, actually do have X -Men 97 included

01:29:45.029 –> 01:29:46.649
because originally I think we were going to lump

01:29:46.649 –> 01:29:48.979
it all together because it. still is a continuation

01:29:48.979 –> 01:29:53.500
of x -men the animated series from the 90s and

01:29:53.500 –> 01:29:57.119
people were like no i mean it’s the same but

01:29:57.119 –> 01:29:59.760
it’s not like it’s got a different title card

01:29:59.760 –> 01:30:04.840
and so like in that regard i understood what

01:30:04.840 –> 01:30:06.939
they were going for and they are kind of flipping

01:30:06.939 –> 01:30:09.340
things on its head it is marvel animation it’s

01:30:09.340 –> 01:30:14.119
not like fox studios it’s um They did reuse the

01:30:14.119 –> 01:30:16.600
theme song. They brought back as many voice casts

01:30:16.600 –> 01:30:18.220
as they could from the original that were still

01:30:18.220 –> 01:30:27.359
alive. But. It’s also. I think it’s a recency

01:30:27.359 –> 01:30:30.560
bias, like for one, but I think, too, like I

01:30:30.560 –> 01:30:34.000
can’t tell. Like, it’s this weird, this weird

01:30:34.000 –> 01:30:38.500
conundrum because it’s a new series. It’s but

01:30:38.500 –> 01:30:41.180
it’s a continuation and it plays with nostalgia.

01:30:41.680 –> 01:30:44.439
Right. So we’re dealing with all three simultaneously

01:30:44.439 –> 01:30:46.640
and it’s like, okay, so where does this actually

01:30:46.640 –> 01:30:50.300
lie? Like where, where should it go? And it’s

01:30:50.300 –> 01:30:52.720
also got one season. So theoretically it shouldn’t

01:30:52.720 –> 01:30:56.579
never have been in, in this list because by,

01:30:56.720 –> 01:30:59.140
you know, our own account of certain shows that

01:30:59.140 –> 01:31:02.699
we axed from the list that had one season, it

01:31:02.699 –> 01:31:06.479
should have never made it. However, it was supposed

01:31:06.479 –> 01:31:08.560
to have another season and I believe it was supposed

01:31:08.560 –> 01:31:10.359
to come out sooner, but because of all of the,

01:31:10.909 –> 01:31:14.350
the drama with production team and Marvel and

01:31:14.350 –> 01:31:20.670
Disney, like it got postponed. So I agree. It

01:31:20.670 –> 01:31:24.789
should be here. I kind of, I mean, I had it much

01:31:24.789 –> 01:31:28.289
higher on my list than, than this, but it was

01:31:28.289 –> 01:31:30.489
because it’s, it’s giving us that modern animation.

01:31:30.529 –> 01:31:32.670
It’s still playing with the nostalgia. It’s continuing

01:31:32.670 –> 01:31:34.890
that universe. And I always enjoyed it as a kid.

01:31:35.529 –> 01:31:41.720
Uh, it does have a pretty good rating on, on

01:31:41.720 –> 01:31:44.640
Rotten Tomatoes at 99%, whereas the original

01:31:44.640 –> 01:31:47.619
X -Men has 83%. So, I mean, I think, again, it’s

01:31:47.619 –> 01:31:49.380
just because a new generation has been exposed

01:31:49.380 –> 01:31:54.380
to it. So, I don’t know. This one’s weird for

01:31:54.380 –> 01:31:56.300
me. So, I’ll be interested to see what people’s

01:31:56.300 –> 01:31:58.539
arguments are in the comments. It was definitely

01:31:58.539 –> 01:32:00.500
one that was very highly ranked by those that

01:32:00.500 –> 01:32:04.000
ranked it. So, everything that appears in today’s

01:32:04.000 –> 01:32:08.520
segment is appearing on anywhere from 12 to 19

01:32:08.520 –> 01:32:13.050
of the 44 list. this is one of the four shows

01:32:13.050 –> 01:32:16.989
that appeared on only 12 lists which means that

01:32:16.989 –> 01:32:19.470
it was pretty highly ranked amongst those 12

01:32:19.470 –> 01:32:22.409
contributors i mean that’s a fourth of our list

01:32:22.409 –> 01:32:25.869
kind of um so it was highly ranked by those folks

01:32:25.869 –> 01:32:28.409
for sure but i do think you you make a good point

01:32:28.409 –> 01:32:30.329
it’s both playing on nostalgia and recency which

01:32:30.329 –> 01:32:33.250
is a maybe a good recipe for getting some more

01:32:33.250 –> 01:32:35.609
points for sure and the funny thing is really

01:32:35.609 –> 01:32:38.109
quickly i just looked at the episodes and i looked

01:32:38.109 –> 01:32:41.359
at the cast list and steve’s point about both

01:32:41.359 –> 01:32:44.840
recency and nostalgia the only nostalgia part

01:32:44.840 –> 01:32:48.100
for me when i watched it was cal dodd returning

01:32:48.100 –> 01:32:53.640
as the voice of wolverine and storm i don’t and

01:32:53.640 –> 01:32:57.880
yeah and it doesn’t look exactly the same no

01:32:57.880 –> 01:32:59.939
it doesn’t and that’s fine you know you have

01:32:59.939 –> 01:33:02.359
updated animation and whatever else the animation

01:33:02.359 –> 01:33:05.520
changed that’s fine after 30 years or whatever

01:33:05.520 –> 01:33:08.159
almost 30 years i thought they made it like as

01:33:08.159 –> 01:33:11.239
close to looking as they tried they did their

01:33:11.239 –> 01:33:13.539
best you’re also dealing with people that don’t

01:33:13.539 –> 01:33:17.039
do classic animation anymore everything’s yeah

01:33:17.039 –> 01:33:21.920
generated exactly but like i don’t even like

01:33:21.920 –> 01:33:27.260
the first season came out talking two years ago

01:33:27.260 –> 01:33:30.439
so i watched it two years ago when it came out

01:33:30.439 –> 01:33:33.699
and the 10 episodes literally i just looked at

01:33:33.699 –> 01:33:36.579
all of their descriptions and i’m like I don’t

01:33:36.579 –> 01:33:39.220
remember any of this, any of any of these plots.

01:33:39.840 –> 01:33:42.659
Like, I now feel like I have to go back and watch

01:33:42.659 –> 01:33:45.000
these 10 episodes to remember what the hell happened

01:33:45.000 –> 01:33:49.939
in this show. Like, no clue. Whereas I could

01:33:49.939 –> 01:33:53.680
tell you exactly what happened in Dawn of Futures,

01:33:53.680 –> 01:33:57.619
Days of Futures Past in the original show. Like,

01:33:57.619 –> 01:34:01.000
it’s just weird. So like I said, it’s the most

01:34:01.000 –> 01:34:02.739
recent one. So it’ll be interesting to see what

01:34:02.739 –> 01:34:05.479
people’s thoughts are on X -Men 97. Like we said,

01:34:05.520 –> 01:34:07.840
this only got in through the fan vote. And then

01:34:07.840 –> 01:34:09.899
once it was in through the fan vote, enough people

01:34:09.899 –> 01:34:11.859
voted for it. 12 people voted for it high enough

01:34:11.859 –> 01:34:13.920
to get it on the list. So here it sits at number

01:34:13.920 –> 01:34:19.060
87. Let’s go to a new production studio. Let’s

01:34:19.060 –> 01:34:24.359
go back to the 80s for number 86. Ghostly haunting.

01:34:24.439 –> 01:34:28.359
I turn loose. Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice.

01:34:30.449 –> 01:34:33.949
All right. Next up on our list from Nelvana,

01:34:34.109 –> 01:34:37.729
which we haven’t said before, debuted on ABC,

01:34:37.810 –> 01:34:41.449
which seems to be a common theme today. This

01:34:41.449 –> 01:34:44.789
is 1989 series. I’m interested to hear your guys’s

01:34:44.789 –> 01:34:49.350
take on this one. It was 157 15 years ago. It

01:34:49.350 –> 01:34:52.390
has risen all the way up to 86. I guess there’s

01:34:52.390 –> 01:34:55.609
more love in this group of 44 people for Beetlejuice.

01:34:56.039 –> 01:34:58.300
Or maybe this was influenced by the more recent

01:34:58.300 –> 01:35:01.680
movies. I don’t know. But we have 1989’s Beetlejuice

01:35:01.680 –> 01:35:05.960
here at number 86. Mike, what do you think? Interesting.

01:35:07.420 –> 01:35:09.779
Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice. Doesn’t

01:35:09.779 –> 01:35:13.140
work. Mike would do that, though. Of course I

01:35:13.140 –> 01:35:17.840
would. Very interesting. I love this cartoon.

01:35:18.039 –> 01:35:21.399
This cartoon was crazy. And I did not know until

01:35:21.399 –> 01:35:25.359
we actually interviewed Michael Hirsch, who…

01:35:25.920 –> 01:35:30.479
was the founder of nirvana uh did not know that

01:35:30.479 –> 01:35:33.180
nirvana was the one that created this cartoon

01:35:33.180 –> 01:35:38.159
but this cartoon was crazy back then absolutely

01:35:38.159 –> 01:35:41.279
loved it because i was a as a kid i was a i loved

01:35:41.279 –> 01:35:46.460
that movie sorry i did have a couple award nominations

01:35:46.460 –> 01:35:50.060
so it is a little critically praised as well

01:35:50.060 –> 01:35:51.960
mike or steve i guess to start with steve do

01:35:51.960 –> 01:35:54.199
you think this one benefited from the recent

01:35:54.199 –> 01:35:58.579
beetlejuice movie Getting votes or do you think

01:35:58.579 –> 01:35:59.859
it’s just a different pool of people that just

01:35:59.859 –> 01:36:03.420
like Beetlejuice? I think 100 % it was fueled

01:36:03.420 –> 01:36:05.800
by the movie. Also, I noticed right around the

01:36:05.800 –> 01:36:10.460
time that the movie came out on DVD and Blu -ray

01:36:10.460 –> 01:36:15.579
because I frequent Walmart out of boredom. Yeah,

01:36:16.640 –> 01:36:20.220
pretty much every other day. I go on my lunch

01:36:20.220 –> 01:36:21.800
break because I’m like, I got to get out of here.

01:36:22.380 –> 01:36:24.300
do something and so i started looking at the

01:36:24.300 –> 01:36:27.140
dvds and so when the movie came out on dvd is

01:36:27.140 –> 01:36:29.359
that you know the the release of beetlejuice

01:36:29.359 –> 01:36:34.279
2 the animated series miraculously shows up as

01:36:34.279 –> 01:36:39.159
a box set of the animated series in walmart and

01:36:39.159 –> 01:36:43.420
i was like oh did not know that you know that

01:36:43.420 –> 01:36:46.380
it was out on disc and not that i bought it but

01:36:46.380 –> 01:36:49.140
it was just it was interesting to find and so

01:36:49.140 –> 01:36:51.539
i think that a lot of people are kind of rediscovering

01:36:51.819 –> 01:36:54.279
the animated series in proxy because of the beetle

01:36:54.279 –> 01:36:59.300
juice to a film that came out. And so I think

01:36:59.300 –> 01:37:02.220
some of it’s a, a recency bias, but I think that,

01:37:02.220 –> 01:37:05.659
uh, two, it was kind of original cause you had

01:37:05.659 –> 01:37:08.600
some CG mixed in with the animation. The voice

01:37:08.600 –> 01:37:11.899
acting was great. It was weird. Uh, it had a

01:37:11.899 –> 01:37:16.140
very nineties vibe to it and the toys were fun.

01:37:16.840 –> 01:37:22.630
And it just, overall like the whole series kind

01:37:22.630 –> 01:37:25.770
of played in the the nether realm and you had

01:37:25.770 –> 01:37:27.729
all these weird moments that kind of fit with

01:37:27.729 –> 01:37:30.069
something like the magic school bus like going

01:37:30.069 –> 01:37:33.890
into his brain or you know different different

01:37:33.890 –> 01:37:37.449
explorations of of him or his world you know

01:37:37.449 –> 01:37:39.550
his feet start talking in an episode you know

01:37:39.550 –> 01:37:42.689
detach and i mean there’s just all kinds of weird

01:37:42.689 –> 01:37:44.409
stuff that happens so i definitely think it’s

01:37:44.409 –> 01:37:47.029
more of a recency bias by collaboration with

01:37:47.029 –> 01:37:50.239
the films uh but it’s not a bad series and i

01:37:50.239 –> 01:37:52.640
i think it’s kind of deserving to be on the list

01:37:52.640 –> 01:37:55.079
this time around i’m kind of surprised it didn’t

01:37:55.079 –> 01:37:57.880
make the list last time around honestly like

01:37:57.880 –> 01:37:59.220
out of all the shows i would have thought there

01:37:59.220 –> 01:38:01.000
would have been more love for it it is interesting

01:38:01.000 –> 01:38:03.199
also interesting reinvention of the character

01:38:03.199 –> 01:38:04.979
beetle just because he kind of goes from a villain

01:38:04.979 –> 01:38:08.960
uh to an ally uh you know film to cartoon in

01:38:08.960 –> 01:38:11.359
a way too so i’m not surprised that it appears

01:38:11.359 –> 01:38:13.119
here i’m more surprised that it didn’t the first

01:38:13.119 –> 01:38:16.750
time i guess agree And I got to say, Stephen

01:38:16.750 –> 01:38:20.170
Oimet, I hope I’m pronouncing that right, Canadian

01:38:20.170 –> 01:38:24.710
voice actor, does a great Michael Keaton impression

01:38:24.710 –> 01:38:27.930
as the main voice of Beetlejuice in the cartoon.

01:38:28.569 –> 01:38:32.050
Yeah. All right. We’re going to go back quite

01:38:32.050 –> 01:38:37.310
a ways in time here for this next one. 85. And

01:38:37.310 –> 01:38:40.390
now here they are, the most daredevil group of

01:38:40.390 –> 01:38:42.510
daddy drivers to ever whirl their wheels in the

01:38:42.510 –> 01:38:46.239
wacky races. Competing for the title of the world’s

01:38:46.239 –> 01:38:51.840
wackiest racer. All right. For number 85, we’re

01:38:51.840 –> 01:38:54.560
going back into the 60s. Our third trip back

01:38:54.560 –> 01:38:56.600
to the 60s. So we’ve already seen Speed Racer

01:38:56.600 –> 01:39:00.359
and Top Cat. Intrigued that this one is making

01:39:00.359 –> 01:39:04.340
the list. It was at number 135 15 years ago.

01:39:04.399 –> 01:39:08.239
It has climbed up about 50 spots to get to our

01:39:08.239 –> 01:39:12.500
number 85 spot from 1968. a Hanna -Barbera show

01:39:12.500 –> 01:39:15.220
that debuted on CBS, first time we’ve mentioned

01:39:15.220 –> 01:39:20.319
CBS, and that would be Wacky Races, which is

01:39:20.319 –> 01:39:23.960
interesting here because from a storytelling

01:39:23.960 –> 01:39:26.060
standpoint and all of this type of stuff might

01:39:26.060 –> 01:39:30.479
be seen as simple, campy, not a lot of depth

01:39:30.479 –> 01:39:33.619
to it, but it did give us some iconic concepts

01:39:33.619 –> 01:39:36.420
and designs and archetypes like Dick Dastardly

01:39:36.420 –> 01:39:39.529
and things of that nature. So maybe more design

01:39:39.529 –> 01:39:42.310
influence than story influence. But Steve, what

01:39:42.310 –> 01:39:45.350
do you think of Wacky Races, another 60s show

01:39:45.350 –> 01:39:49.310
showing up here at number 85? Out of a variety

01:39:49.310 –> 01:39:52.590
of shows that came out around that time, it was

01:39:52.590 –> 01:39:56.369
highly entertaining between all of the different

01:39:56.369 –> 01:39:59.449
characters that would show up. You know, the

01:39:59.449 –> 01:40:05.130
Slag Brothers and the Ant Hill Mob. And it was

01:40:05.130 –> 01:40:07.569
kind of funny because it was announcing. in a

01:40:07.569 –> 01:40:14.510
lot of ways like it was nascar right mixed with

01:40:14.510 –> 01:40:17.050
like wrestling in a sense because of all the

01:40:17.050 –> 01:40:19.430
oh and they did blah blah blah like you know

01:40:19.430 –> 01:40:24.510
and i mean let’s get for real everybody watched

01:40:24.510 –> 01:40:26.949
it because of dick dastardly and butley like

01:40:26.949 –> 01:40:29.569
that was literally yeah that was literally the

01:40:29.569 –> 01:40:31.250
whole reason for the show like everything else

01:40:31.250 –> 01:40:34.729
was kind of weird and you know then I mean, I

01:40:34.729 –> 01:40:35.829
feel like if you’re going to remember anybody,

01:40:35.989 –> 01:40:38.829
it’s the Slag Brothers, Penelope, Pit Stop, and

01:40:38.829 –> 01:40:41.289
then Dick Dastardly and Muttley. The rest of

01:40:41.289 –> 01:40:47.270
them, it’s kind of like, eh. But, I mean, I don’t

01:40:47.270 –> 01:40:52.350
know. Out of some of the different shows, I did

01:40:52.350 –> 01:40:54.750
find it enjoyable for the times I did watch it.

01:40:56.949 –> 01:41:01.430
But, yeah, it’s… I guess it’s a lot of fun

01:41:01.430 –> 01:41:05.600
to those that… kind of grew up with it or that

01:41:05.600 –> 01:41:10.720
um like that type of program i think and it’s

01:41:10.720 –> 01:41:13.140
had a reboot too like in recent years as well

01:41:13.140 –> 01:41:16.060
i think one thing that this reminds me of and

01:41:16.060 –> 01:41:18.260
it’s not for everybody i guess but like one thing

01:41:18.260 –> 01:41:20.880
that it i’m surprised it made our countdown honestly

01:41:20.880 –> 01:41:23.060
like it didn’t make our countdown last time and

01:41:23.060 –> 01:41:25.000
i was a little surprised it did this time i do

01:41:25.000 –> 01:41:27.039
enjoy it from a personal standpoint because i

01:41:27.039 –> 01:41:29.739
think it does two things that are somewhat of

01:41:29.739 –> 01:41:34.619
a lost art which is one it’s kind of like that

01:41:34.619 –> 01:41:39.460
timeless humor that similar to like a Tom and

01:41:39.460 –> 01:41:41.279
Jerry or Looney Tunes or things of that nature

01:41:41.279 –> 01:41:43.920
where like the types of hijinks and the things

01:41:43.920 –> 01:41:46.960
that are going on, it doesn’t matter what generation

01:41:46.960 –> 01:41:49.739
you’re from. I don’t think as far as like finding

01:41:49.739 –> 01:41:52.479
the humor in like what they’re doing. And I think

01:41:52.479 –> 01:41:55.880
the other thing that this show focuses on is

01:41:55.880 –> 01:41:59.659
yes, they’re not doing a whole lot of like deep

01:41:59.659 –> 01:42:02.659
storytelling or whatnot, but they rely so much

01:42:02.659 –> 01:42:08.180
on the art of voice acting and like the people

01:42:08.180 –> 01:42:10.020
that are supplying the voices for these different

01:42:10.020 –> 01:42:11.659
characters. And then you have the announcer and

01:42:11.659 –> 01:42:13.159
you have all of the different stuff that like

01:42:13.159 –> 01:42:16.899
the storytelling is from the voice actors. Like

01:42:16.899 –> 01:42:18.819
they’re really bringing the characters to life

01:42:18.819 –> 01:42:21.359
and they’re really like bringing you along. And

01:42:21.359 –> 01:42:24.460
it’s like, I think there’s a timelessness to

01:42:24.460 –> 01:42:26.619
it. I think there’s a, that’s why it’s probably

01:42:26.619 –> 01:42:28.420
been rebooted to make it look a little bit more.

01:42:28.920 –> 01:42:30.899
modern but like still kind of rely on the same

01:42:30.899 –> 01:42:32.960
type of story gimmicks like you know like just

01:42:32.960 –> 01:42:34.720
like the Wile E. Coyote Roadrunner type stuff

01:42:34.720 –> 01:42:38.180
like it’s very similar to that aspect so I get

01:42:38.180 –> 01:42:41.899
the draw to it I think what surprises me is like

01:42:41.899 –> 01:42:44.600
shows like this and Laugh Olympics and things

01:42:44.600 –> 01:42:47.100
of that nature when you’re thinking about Hanna

01:42:47.100 –> 01:42:50.180
-Barbera is I didn’t expect any of those like

01:42:50.180 –> 01:42:52.939
more compilation shows to make the countdown

01:42:52.939 –> 01:42:55.979
versus like when it’s driven by one specific

01:42:55.979 –> 01:42:58.439
character, like we expect to probably see later

01:42:58.439 –> 01:43:01.220
in the countdown. Um, so, so that’s kind of like

01:43:01.220 –> 01:43:02.979
where I’m a little perplexed, but I’m not, I

01:43:02.979 –> 01:43:04.979
don’t dislike wacky races. Mike, what do you

01:43:04.979 –> 01:43:09.479
think of wacky races? Everything you guys already

01:43:09.479 –> 01:43:12.819
said, plus so much more like, Oh my God, this

01:43:12.819 –> 01:43:19.199
show, this show is a kid like so good. Uh, obviously

01:43:19.199 –> 01:43:22.079
Dick Dastardly and Muttley. I actually have,

01:43:22.359 –> 01:43:26.710
uh, When Funko, I think they still make this

01:43:26.710 –> 01:43:28.590
product. I don’t know if they do or not anymore,

01:43:28.710 –> 01:43:32.229
but they used to make soda products. So they

01:43:32.229 –> 01:43:35.609
were these, think of the Funko Pop product things,

01:43:35.750 –> 01:43:39.369
but they came in cans. So they had to fit them

01:43:39.369 –> 01:43:42.409
into soda cans. So the products were made slightly

01:43:42.409 –> 01:43:46.149
slimmer. I actually have Dick Dastardly and Muttly

01:43:46.149 –> 01:43:50.470
over on my kitchen shelf there. Absolutely love

01:43:50.470 –> 01:43:53.210
them. From the Slag Brothers to the Gruesome

01:43:53.210 –> 01:43:58.329
Twosome to Professor Patton Pending to the Red

01:43:58.329 –> 01:44:02.109
Max and Penelope Pitstop, she’s always getting

01:44:02.109 –> 01:44:05.229
in trouble. Like you guys said, the Angel Mob

01:44:05.229 –> 01:44:10.050
and Peter Perfect and Rufus Roughcut and all

01:44:10.050 –> 01:44:14.050
that just absolutely love Wacky Races. They just

01:44:14.050 –> 01:44:19.430
re -released it on Blu -ray last year, the complete

01:44:19.430 –> 01:44:23.989
series. I got to track that down, but absolutely

01:44:23.989 –> 01:44:26.470
love wacky races. Cause again, it’s a different,

01:44:26.569 –> 01:44:32.970
it’s a different type of cartoon show. That isn’t

01:44:32.970 –> 01:44:36.369
your normal thing. And it’s an, it’s interesting.

01:44:36.630 –> 01:44:41.149
It’s, it’s fun and absolutely deserves to be

01:44:41.149 –> 01:44:44.989
here. Very good. All right. Sound the police

01:44:44.989 –> 01:44:50.409
siren. Cause we have a tie coming up. 84. We

01:44:50.409 –> 01:44:52.210
were floating around the universe for the past

01:44:52.210 –> 01:44:56.029
20 years. Ooh, we’re passing Earth again. Push

01:44:56.029 –> 01:45:05.029
the button! Oh, we’re wasting time. What is your

01:45:05.029 –> 01:45:11.050
weakness? Well… Dum -dum -dum! Never tell the

01:45:11.050 –> 01:45:13.670
villain how to trap you in a cage! You probably

01:45:13.670 –> 01:45:16.560
shouldn’t have helped us build it either. I know,

01:45:16.699 –> 01:45:19.359
dumb! Right, that’s right. We have a tie here

01:45:19.359 –> 01:45:21.899
and we need to determine which one is 84 and

01:45:21.899 –> 01:45:24.579
which one is 83. Let’s call it the Battle of

01:45:24.579 –> 01:45:27.659
the 90s because these both came out in the 90s

01:45:27.659 –> 01:45:29.579
within two years of each other. One of them 1993,

01:45:30.020 –> 01:45:34.579
one of them 1995. One of them was nominated for

01:45:34.579 –> 01:45:37.560
over 11 different awards and did show up on three

01:45:37.560 –> 01:45:39.279
of the nine lists that we looked at. The other

01:45:39.279 –> 01:45:41.680
one was nominated for five awards and showed

01:45:41.680 –> 01:45:44.859
up on five of the nine lists. that we looked

01:45:44.859 –> 01:45:48.939
at. They both were on 15 lists total. One of

01:45:48.939 –> 01:45:52.659
them has risen dramatically. We’re almost talking

01:45:52.659 –> 01:45:56.880
Speed Racer here. This one has come from being

01:45:56.880 –> 01:46:02.300
ranked 289th last time to being in this spot

01:46:02.300 –> 01:46:04.859
where it is now. The other one has actually fallen

01:46:04.859 –> 01:46:11.560
from 57th down to either 83rd or 84th. So one

01:46:11.560 –> 01:46:14.039
with a drop, one with a tremendous rise. It’s

01:46:14.039 –> 01:46:16.659
a battle between the kids WB and Nickelodeon.

01:46:16.680 –> 01:46:18.119
I feel like I know where Steve’s going to go

01:46:18.119 –> 01:46:20.579
with this one. I’m not sure with Mike specifically

01:46:20.579 –> 01:46:25.279
yet, but this is a battle between Rocco’s modern

01:46:25.279 –> 01:46:30.619
life and Freakazoid. Freakazoid all day. Freakazoid.

01:46:31.460 –> 01:46:34.359
Fuck Rocco’s modern life. Freakazoid all day.

01:46:34.979 –> 01:46:38.720
Tell me how you really feel, Mike. he did violent

01:46:38.720 –> 01:46:42.800
they got violent and vulgar there for look look

01:46:42.800 –> 01:46:46.619
Rocco is great Rocco is amazing but Rocco can

01:46:46.619 –> 01:46:50.199
take the lower number it’s fine Rocco’s modern

01:46:50.199 –> 01:46:52.399
life did get more awards like I said 11 to 5

01:46:52.399 –> 01:46:57.939
and was on for more episodes Freakazoid was the

01:46:57.939 –> 01:47:01.260
one that dropped 26 spots it went from 57th last

01:47:01.260 –> 01:47:03.460
time to what looks like it’s going to be 83rd

01:47:03.460 –> 01:47:05.420
this time whereas Rocco’s modern life was trying

01:47:05.420 –> 01:47:09.829
to make the uphill battle from 289th to 84th.

01:47:09.909 –> 01:47:12.930
Steve, what’s your thoughts overall? So, I mean,

01:47:13.029 –> 01:47:16.770
Rocko’s Modern Life was okay. Like, it wasn’t

01:47:16.770 –> 01:47:19.409
one of those shows I enjoyed particularly. And

01:47:19.409 –> 01:47:21.569
again, Nickelodeon was really weird around that

01:47:21.569 –> 01:47:24.229
time. It was, I think, around the time I was

01:47:24.229 –> 01:47:28.430
starting to get out of Nickelodeon. And I more

01:47:28.430 –> 01:47:30.989
so put it on out of just boredom. Never loved

01:47:30.989 –> 01:47:33.109
the animation and the show was kind of bland.

01:47:33.819 –> 01:47:36.079
There really wasn’t a whole lot going on with

01:47:36.079 –> 01:47:41.279
it. While it still has a positive reception,

01:47:41.680 –> 01:47:43.859
we did get a lot of good voice actors out of

01:47:43.859 –> 01:47:49.199
it. Carlos, Alice Rocky, Charlie Adler, Tom Kenny.

01:47:50.140 –> 01:47:53.260
This was basically a pipeline for not just the

01:47:53.260 –> 01:47:56.100
voice actors, but the creators that were involved

01:47:56.100 –> 01:47:58.000
with Rocko’s Modern Life. A lot of them went

01:47:58.000 –> 01:48:00.840
on to be involved with Spongebob. So this was

01:48:00.840 –> 01:48:03.859
kind of like a talent pipeline for SpongeBob

01:48:03.859 –> 01:48:07.600
SquarePants. And I know it was seen as like one

01:48:07.600 –> 01:48:10.359
of the most subversive or satirical shows of

01:48:10.359 –> 01:48:12.560
its time as well. I didn’t grow up watching it.

01:48:13.180 –> 01:48:19.199
So it’s a good show, but it came out around the

01:48:19.199 –> 01:48:21.720
same time as like Angry Beavers and Ren and Stimpy

01:48:21.720 –> 01:48:24.619
and Real Monsters and CatDog and Tablam and Rugrats

01:48:24.619 –> 01:48:27.100
and Doug. And I mean, there was a lot of overlap

01:48:27.100 –> 01:48:29.020
between these. And then that’s about where I

01:48:29.020 –> 01:48:34.270
kind of. got off that ride when, you know, that,

01:48:34.390 –> 01:48:37.890
that era. And so I, while I enjoyed it, I didn’t

01:48:37.890 –> 01:48:42.569
love it. Freakazoid on the other hand, I watched

01:48:42.569 –> 01:48:47.130
that this morning. I love that show. Like I love

01:48:47.130 –> 01:48:51.029
the, the zaniness. I love the song is, is so

01:48:51.029 –> 01:48:55.069
fun. Yeah. The relax. So vision, the, you know,

01:48:55.069 –> 01:48:59.569
at Asner playing Cosgrove and, and, uh, Like,

01:48:59.569 –> 01:49:02.710
hey, Frank, I want to go get ice cream. Oh, hi.

01:49:03.029 –> 01:49:07.050
You know, and or, you know, just all the antics

01:49:07.050 –> 01:49:13.430
you had the lobe, which was. The voice actor

01:49:13.430 –> 01:49:20.310
that plays. Rachel Ghoul. Oh, David Warner. Yeah,

01:49:20.329 –> 01:49:25.250
David Warner’s in it. You have Khan from Star

01:49:25.250 –> 01:49:30.130
Trek in it. As Gutierrez. Ricardo Montalban.

01:49:30.289 –> 01:49:32.590
Yes. Yeah. My brain was space and I was like,

01:49:32.630 –> 01:49:35.409
I know their character. Yeah, I knew you would.

01:49:36.109 –> 01:49:38.750
So anyways, I just love this show. This it’s

01:49:38.750 –> 01:49:42.050
got 100 % rating on Rotten Tomatoes 7 .5 on IMDb.

01:49:42.229 –> 01:49:46.289
It’s. I honestly wish there was more. I’ve heard

01:49:46.289 –> 01:49:49.550
it described as proto adult swim in its tone

01:49:49.550 –> 01:49:54.090
and like early meta. And I think it also is characteristic

01:49:54.090 –> 01:49:57.890
of 90s cartoons with like the chaotic humor.

01:49:58.189 –> 01:50:00.590
I think that was one staple of 90s cartoons was

01:50:00.590 –> 01:50:03.390
just the chaotic nature of it. And as I finish

01:50:03.390 –> 01:50:07.430
my soapbox here, we did talk to Tom Ruger years

01:50:07.430 –> 01:50:10.829
ago. He was involved. Bruce Timm was involved.

01:50:11.029 –> 01:50:13.850
Spielberg, Baldini. A lot of the guys were in

01:50:13.850 –> 01:50:16.229
Batman the Animated Series involvement or Animaniacs

01:50:16.229 –> 01:50:20.310
and things like that. You also had a lot of the

01:50:20.310 –> 01:50:23.630
same crossovers of all of the other shows. Then

01:50:23.630 –> 01:50:26.970
you had… you know joe lay was the the narrator

01:50:26.970 –> 01:50:29.369
like he had a narrator they actually had an episode

01:50:29.369 –> 01:50:35.069
of teen titans go where the villain unearthed

01:50:35.069 –> 01:50:41.590
the lobe yeah and had him you know and they’re

01:50:41.590 –> 01:50:44.989
like we need to get our own you know 1990s uh

01:50:44.989 –> 01:50:47.289
hero to fight fight him and they’re like what

01:50:47.289 –> 01:50:49.489
about you know they start going across the list

01:50:49.489 –> 01:50:52.420
and Like, no, too dark to this to that. And then

01:50:52.420 –> 01:50:54.140
they finally got Freakazoid and open it. And

01:50:54.140 –> 01:50:57.520
he’s, you know, and and then he brought his announcer

01:50:57.520 –> 01:50:59.960
with him. So it was just it was hilarious. So,

01:51:00.039 –> 01:51:03.199
yeah, I love this show. Tom Ruger may or may

01:51:03.199 –> 01:51:05.739
not have rated this one fairly highly. Yeah,

01:51:05.819 –> 01:51:09.979
of course, with good reason. I mean, the man,

01:51:10.060 –> 01:51:17.359
I think I have my information correct here. Either

01:51:17.359 –> 01:51:20.720
created it or produced on it. I’m trying to see

01:51:20.720 –> 01:51:25.659
here. Developed by. Created by Bruce, Tim and

01:51:25.659 –> 01:51:29.479
Paul Dini. So, yeah, I mean, it’s all around.

01:51:29.579 –> 01:51:32.560
Yeah, absolutely. One hundred percent. And I

01:51:32.560 –> 01:51:35.560
love the show. Yeah, the show. And this is one

01:51:35.560 –> 01:51:38.039
of those things where this show debuted September

01:51:38.039 –> 01:51:45.180
9th, 95, like Kevin said. And last season only

01:51:45.180 –> 01:51:51.489
had two seasons. Are you guys sad that it dropped

01:51:51.489 –> 01:51:56.069
from 57 to 83? A little bit, but we have no idea

01:51:56.069 –> 01:51:59.689
what else is coming. Agreed. And I ranked mine

01:51:59.689 –> 01:52:02.750
at 35. It didn’t make the countdown, so it’s

01:52:02.750 –> 01:52:04.729
there. It did. And Rockwell’s Modern Life has

01:52:04.729 –> 01:52:06.210
joined the countdown, which didn’t happen 15

01:52:06.210 –> 01:52:08.329
years ago. So I guess the Nickelodeon fans out

01:52:08.329 –> 01:52:10.590
there should be happy about that. Yeah, exactly.

01:52:11.090 –> 01:52:13.229
So, you know, they’re both here. We just had

01:52:13.229 –> 01:52:15.859
to decide which one goes first. Right. or it

01:52:15.859 –> 01:52:17.920
goes higher, which is, in this case, Freakazoid.

01:52:18.159 –> 01:52:20.359
And, you know, the cool thing about this show

01:52:20.359 –> 01:52:24.439
is it’s basically a kid, Dexter, who is a 16,

01:52:24.560 –> 01:52:28.859
17 -year -old geek. Basically, he draws this

01:52:28.859 –> 01:52:32.500
character. The character comes to life. No, he

01:52:32.500 –> 01:52:34.520
actually punches in a code that was a computer

01:52:34.520 –> 01:52:36.779
blade with the processor, and he gets sucked

01:52:36.779 –> 01:52:40.199
into the computer. Oh, yeah, that’s what it is.

01:52:40.279 –> 01:52:43.909
And then he goes, ah, freak out! That’s right.

01:52:43.989 –> 01:52:45.909
That’s right. Yeah, you’re right. You’re right.

01:52:46.390 –> 01:52:48.609
All right, Mike, can you do me a favor? Yeah.

01:52:49.369 –> 01:52:51.729
Can you go ahead and ring that alarm again? No.

01:52:52.390 –> 01:52:58.149
Because we got another tie coming up. 82. Talk

01:52:58.149 –> 01:53:06.479
about your ultimate rush. Who or what are you?

01:53:06.880 –> 01:53:11.119
I am Synergy, a holographic computer designed

01:53:11.119 –> 01:53:13.659
to be the ultimate audiovisual entertainment

01:53:13.659 –> 01:53:17.680
synthesizer. All right, we have to settle another

01:53:17.680 –> 01:53:22.720
tie between the spots of 82 and 81 here. I guess

01:53:22.720 –> 01:53:24.520
we can call this the last time we had the Battle

01:53:24.520 –> 01:53:26.699
of the 90s. We’ll call this the Battle of Marvel,

01:53:26.859 –> 01:53:29.619
I guess, in a way. But that’s going to not be

01:53:29.619 –> 01:53:31.359
it. That’s not going to seem obvious to y ‘all

01:53:31.359 –> 01:53:34.180
until I go a little bit further. Well, wait,

01:53:34.220 –> 01:53:36.199
before you go any further, I got to say, you

01:53:36.199 –> 01:53:39.520
know, 15 years ago, this would be the end of

01:53:39.520 –> 01:53:44.579
this episode. 15 years ago. Cause last time we

01:53:44.579 –> 01:53:50.119
only did 100 to 81. Oh, we’re, we’re, we pump

01:53:50.119 –> 01:53:53.239
more into these days. So, um, all right. So a

01:53:53.239 –> 01:53:56.020
battle of Marvel in a way roundabout way, these,

01:53:56.140 –> 01:53:59.750
uh, both are tied here with 855 points. One of

01:53:59.750 –> 01:54:02.229
them was on 19 lists, which is the most out of

01:54:02.229 –> 01:54:04.930
any of them today, along with Wacky Races and

01:54:04.930 –> 01:54:07.189
Super Friends. Those are the three that appeared

01:54:07.189 –> 01:54:09.890
on the most lists today. The other one only appeared

01:54:09.890 –> 01:54:12.630
on 12, which is the least amount of lists. So

01:54:12.630 –> 01:54:14.250
we have one that had the most amount of lists

01:54:14.250 –> 01:54:16.909
today, one that had the least. They were both

01:54:16.909 –> 01:54:21.810
on our original top 100. One of them has fallen

01:54:21.810 –> 01:54:25.550
about 26 spots, depending on the outcome of this

01:54:25.550 –> 01:54:28.640
tiebreak. The other has actually one of our two

01:54:28.640 –> 01:54:33.100
shows that has risen. So it is going to be higher

01:54:33.100 –> 01:54:35.899
or more lower ranked, whatever you want to say.

01:54:35.939 –> 01:54:38.119
It’s going to be better ranked than it was last

01:54:38.119 –> 01:54:41.420
time. We’re comparing two different shows, one

01:54:41.420 –> 01:54:45.880
from 2008 and one from, is that right? Our third

01:54:45.880 –> 01:54:51.640
show from 1985. So we are comparing, I don’t

01:54:51.640 –> 01:54:53.619
know how you do this. They are both Marvel in

01:54:53.619 –> 01:54:55.340
a way, but I don’t know how you compare these

01:54:55.340 –> 01:54:58.770
two shows. So we have to decide between the Spectacular

01:54:58.770 –> 01:55:05.449
Spider -Man from 2008 and Jem from 1985. Sunbow.

01:55:05.770 –> 01:55:08.729
Yeah. Marvel slash Sunbow. So that’s what I did

01:55:08.729 –> 01:55:11.649
there. So we have Jem and the Spectacular Spider

01:55:11.649 –> 01:55:13.970
-Man. I’ll go first real quick. A lot of people

01:55:13.970 –> 01:55:16.569
do say that Spectacular Spider -Man is one of

01:55:16.569 –> 01:55:20.369
the best Spider -Man adaptations that has very

01:55:20.369 –> 01:55:23.409
tight storytelling and serialization, some big

01:55:23.409 –> 01:55:26.470
long -term villain arcs. possibly one of the

01:55:26.470 –> 01:55:30.770
best, if not the best Spider -Man show. Gem did

01:55:30.770 –> 01:55:34.529
set some groundwork in a way. You might not think

01:55:34.529 –> 01:55:37.529
it like this, but the female -led, music -driven

01:55:37.529 –> 01:55:40.149
storytelling was not really a thing before that.

01:55:40.210 –> 01:55:42.470
We do get some examples of that throughout time

01:55:42.470 –> 01:55:45.329
after that. Even like Steven Universe more recently

01:55:45.329 –> 01:55:47.149
kind of had a more music -driven storytelling.

01:55:47.229 –> 01:55:49.510
You could make some comparisons to Phineas and

01:55:49.510 –> 01:55:52.409
Ferb in a way. but obviously this is more of

01:55:52.409 –> 01:55:54.869
a female led eighties soap opera, sci -fi glam

01:55:54.869 –> 01:55:57.869
rock. It did have a cult following, but then

01:55:57.869 –> 01:56:00.130
we got to go down the line of, do we value like

01:56:00.130 –> 01:56:02.750
the cult following more or the more universal

01:56:02.750 –> 01:56:05.649
consensus quality and things of that nature?

01:56:05.869 –> 01:56:08.869
Um, it was ahead of its time and format and branding.

01:56:09.329 –> 01:56:11.729
So, uh, Mike, I’ll let you go first spectacular

01:56:11.729 –> 01:56:14.550
Spider -Man or gem. And they were both on our

01:56:14.550 –> 01:56:16.289
countdown last time. They will both be on our

01:56:16.289 –> 01:56:17.649
countdown this time. What are your thoughts?

01:56:22.150 –> 01:56:24.689
As someone who may or may not have hosted a podcast

01:56:24.689 –> 01:56:26.970
that reviewed all of the episodes of Jeff. And

01:56:26.970 –> 01:56:29.229
interviewed the voice actors. Plus the comics.

01:56:29.590 –> 01:56:33.909
And the writer. Well, not just the writer, the

01:56:33.909 –> 01:56:37.430
creator. Literally, Christy Marks, the creator.

01:56:37.670 –> 01:56:38.529
I don’t think you have a choice on this one,

01:56:38.609 –> 01:56:40.229
Mike. I think you have to vote one way or people

01:56:40.229 –> 01:56:41.770
are going to come after you. I know, I know.

01:56:41.850 –> 01:56:46.069
Well, here’s the thing. I’m actually on the Spectacular

01:56:46.069 –> 01:56:48.630
Spider -Man page of Wikipedia. And here’s the

01:56:48.630 –> 01:56:52.289
thing, folks. I have never seen more than three

01:56:52.289 –> 01:56:55.029
episodes of the spectacular Spider -Man because

01:56:55.029 –> 01:56:58.170
I’ve never dedicated the time to checking it

01:56:58.170 –> 01:57:02.470
out. Even though, even though I’ve interviewed

01:57:02.470 –> 01:57:05.710
Josh Keaton, who was the voice of Peter Parker

01:57:05.710 –> 01:57:08.869
slash Spider -Man in that series, I think once

01:57:08.869 –> 01:57:12.970
or twice, maybe I need to go check that series

01:57:12.970 –> 01:57:18.270
out. So yeah, no, my vote for. tiebreaker definitely

01:57:18.270 –> 01:57:21.750
goes jim has to get the higher slot because look

01:57:21.750 –> 01:57:27.770
jim was groundbreaking for 1985 like there were

01:57:27.770 –> 01:57:31.670
there were girls cartoons but there were no girls

01:57:31.670 –> 01:57:37.510
action cartoons these are jim and the holograms

01:57:37.510 –> 01:57:41.770
and the misfits it’s literally the battle of

01:57:41.770 –> 01:57:50.439
the bands you have jim Kimber, Aja, Shana. Who

01:57:50.439 –> 01:57:54.819
am I missing? Kimber, Aja, Shana. Was it Rhea?

01:57:55.319 –> 01:57:58.539
I think that’s five of them. You got Jim and

01:57:58.539 –> 01:58:01.500
the Holograms. You got that band. You got the

01:58:01.500 –> 01:58:04.520
Misfits with Pizazz and Stormer and all them.

01:58:05.039 –> 01:58:08.279
You got them fighting over all this stuff. And

01:58:08.279 –> 01:58:12.039
it’s not just piddly stuff. It’s over music contracts.

01:58:12.340 –> 01:58:15.909
It’s over this. You’ve got… It’s just such

01:58:15.909 –> 01:58:19.609
a great, great, amazing show. And we did a whole

01:58:19.609 –> 01:58:25.130
podcast in 2015 to celebrate the. I think that’s

01:58:25.130 –> 01:58:28.289
30th anniversary. Yeah. 30th anniversary called

01:58:28.289 –> 01:58:30.670
Showtime Synergy here on the Geekcast Radio Network.

01:58:31.170 –> 01:58:33.789
We got a chance to interview Christy Marks. I

01:58:33.789 –> 01:58:35.550
think we’ve interviewed her like two or three

01:58:35.550 –> 01:58:37.810
times, but we got a chance to interview her that

01:58:37.810 –> 01:58:40.470
for the first time. Maybe that actually, no,

01:58:40.510 –> 01:58:44.430
that was the second time. No, it wasn’t. we did

01:58:44.430 –> 01:58:47.590
it for beast wars i think i thought it was the

01:58:47.590 –> 01:58:52.670
same trip so i the point is my vote goes jim

01:58:52.670 –> 01:58:56.149
first and then spider -man second all right so

01:58:56.149 –> 01:58:58.050
i will say one thing i understand what your point

01:58:58.050 –> 01:59:00.329
was as far as girls cartoons in the 80s because

01:59:00.329 –> 01:59:01.829
we did have a lot of rainbow bright strawberry

01:59:01.829 –> 01:59:06.590
shortcake and things of that nature i have to

01:59:06.590 –> 01:59:08.810
correct you before we get axes thrown at us because

01:59:08.810 –> 01:59:11.710
you said that it was the first female action

01:59:11.710 –> 01:59:15.029
cartoon and uh you may have been forgetting another

01:59:15.029 –> 01:59:18.569
1985 series called shira that also uh was in

01:59:18.569 –> 01:59:22.869
existence at this point so okay but yes no i

01:59:22.869 –> 01:59:26.590
want you to get hurt as as okay october september

01:59:26.590 –> 01:59:29.810
they were out at the same time okay yes it wasn’t

01:59:29.810 –> 01:59:34.210
the first but it was the there’s a difference

01:59:34.210 –> 01:59:39.949
what i mean by the first female -led action cartoon

01:59:39.949 –> 01:59:48.369
shira is fantasy it’s i don’t know it also kind

01:59:48.369 –> 01:59:50.869
of dogpiles on he -man whereas this is kind of

01:59:50.869 –> 01:59:53.670
standalone right i’m just saying you said you

01:59:53.670 –> 01:59:55.710
said female action and shira will be the thing

01:59:55.710 –> 01:59:58.090
that comes to most people’s mind fine i get it

01:59:58.090 –> 02:00:00.689
i i compare it more to like a precursor it’s

02:00:00.689 –> 02:00:03.069
like an 80s cartoon musical version of like beverly

02:00:03.069 –> 02:00:05.720
hills 90210 or Melrose Place, or something like

02:00:05.720 –> 02:00:09.800
that. Yeah, what I mean by it is real world.

02:00:10.279 –> 02:00:12.420
Okay. Steve, where are you falling on this debate?

02:00:14.960 –> 02:00:20.060
I’m falling on Spider -Man. Well, I mean, you

02:00:20.060 –> 02:00:23.319
gotta figure too, like, Jem was not my target

02:00:23.319 –> 02:00:25.699
audience, didn’t grow up with it, and also…

02:00:25.699 –> 02:00:28.539
Weren’t even born when it was released. Well,

02:00:28.619 –> 02:00:34.619
whatever. That being said… It’s not it’s not

02:00:34.619 –> 02:00:37.319
a show that even I I don’t even care for it.

02:00:39.619 –> 02:00:43.920
On on the now, like watching it for free, like

02:00:43.920 –> 02:00:46.939
Spider -Man, like I feel like is more universal

02:00:46.939 –> 02:00:50.520
or more universally watched, and especially this

02:00:50.520 –> 02:00:53.859
show, because it was also kind of geared towards

02:00:53.859 –> 02:00:58.140
the young, the new viewers, older viewers. It

02:00:58.140 –> 02:01:00.140
kind of played in all the realms, kind of similar

02:01:00.140 –> 02:01:03.939
to a lot of other Spider -Man series. And then

02:01:03.939 –> 02:01:10.300
again, you kind of have some of the same people

02:01:10.300 –> 02:01:13.439
involved that that later did like Young Justice.

02:01:13.520 –> 02:01:18.819
And so I’m going with this like it’s just more

02:01:18.819 –> 02:01:22.340
enjoyable. It’s more of a different flavor of

02:01:22.340 –> 02:01:28.380
the. Spider -Man, the animated series show, though.

02:01:29.000 –> 02:01:31.899
Out of the ones that followed after that, this

02:01:31.899 –> 02:01:36.359
is probably my favorite. You guys forced me into

02:01:36.359 –> 02:01:38.840
a tiebreaker vote here since you both went one

02:01:38.840 –> 02:01:41.600
way and the other. And I will do a cop -out here,

02:01:41.680 –> 02:01:45.420
I guess. I don’t necessarily have a dog in the

02:01:45.420 –> 02:01:48.600
race for either one. I think it’s good that they

02:01:48.600 –> 02:01:52.680
both are represented. Obviously, Spectacular

02:01:52.680 –> 02:01:57.079
Spider -Man has fallen from 56th last time. and

02:01:57.079 –> 02:01:59.300
now and which was fairly you know is somewhat

02:01:59.300 –> 02:02:01.859
modern when we came out with it last time it

02:02:01.859 –> 02:02:05.739
just fairly new so it has fallen from 56 into

02:02:05.739 –> 02:02:10.260
the 80s whereas gem is going to rise from 87th

02:02:10.260 –> 02:02:13.399
to either 82nd or 81st so a small rise of six

02:02:13.399 –> 02:02:16.640
spots or so um depending on this so i think my

02:02:16.640 –> 02:02:18.140
cop -out though and the way i’m going to do this

02:02:18.140 –> 02:02:20.020
without having to make an informed decision on

02:02:20.020 –> 02:02:23.500
either one is and i’m not going to peruse the

02:02:23.500 –> 02:02:26.470
list to see what is and what’s not going to show

02:02:26.470 –> 02:02:29.590
i haven’t memorized it yet but i know last time

02:02:29.590 –> 02:02:32.090
when we did this list 15 years ago that we had

02:02:32.090 –> 02:02:35.109
like at least four spider -man entries in the

02:02:35.109 –> 02:02:38.949
top 100 so i’m gonna say that like there’s a

02:02:38.949 –> 02:02:40.470
chance that we’re gonna have some more spider

02:02:40.470 –> 02:02:43.789
-man so i’m gonna give the vote for gem just

02:02:43.789 –> 02:02:48.050
because of that so i think spider -man there

02:02:48.050 –> 02:02:50.050
may be more entries gem there will not be it’s

02:02:50.050 –> 02:02:53.279
the only it’s the only show yeah I’ll go that

02:02:53.279 –> 02:02:57.119
way, I guess. But I don’t have a direct opinion

02:02:57.119 –> 02:02:58.960
on which one is better than the other. I have

02:02:58.960 –> 02:03:00.659
not watched either one extensively enough to

02:03:00.659 –> 02:03:04.619
make that opinion. So, all right. So we’ll go

02:03:04.619 –> 02:03:07.079
with Spectacular Spider -Man at 82, Gem at 81,

02:03:07.340 –> 02:03:11.060
which takes us to our next entrant, which is

02:03:11.060 –> 02:03:13.420
going to be our third time visiting the last

02:03:13.420 –> 02:03:18.579
15 years. That was a 2 ,000 -year -old historical

02:03:18.579 –> 02:03:22.140
treasure. Whoops. All right. Another chance to

02:03:22.140 –> 02:03:24.439
talk about a, I guess, quote unquote, more modern

02:03:24.439 –> 02:03:27.960
show that appeared in the last time bracket that

02:03:27.960 –> 02:03:31.560
we were considering. So our number 80 pick, going

02:03:31.560 –> 02:03:33.420
back to Nickelodeon. We’ve said that name a lot

02:03:33.420 –> 02:03:36.560
today, actually. So we’ve had Nickelodeon representation

02:03:36.560 –> 02:03:39.520
with Danger Mouse, Invader Zim, and Rocko’s Modern

02:03:39.520 –> 02:03:41.260
Life. We’re going to do that once again here

02:03:41.260 –> 02:03:45.479
with number 80 from 2012. The highly acclaimed,

02:03:45.479 –> 02:03:49.319
yet sometimes controversial, The Legend of Korra.

02:03:51.200 –> 02:03:54.819
spinoff or extended version of avatar the last

02:03:54.819 –> 02:03:58.060
airbender expands avatar into some more politics

02:03:58.060 –> 02:04:00.859
and things like that i know it tackles some more

02:04:00.859 –> 02:04:04.100
deep content like trauma and things of that nature

02:04:04.100 –> 02:04:05.739
i know it’s debated though so i think we’ll get

02:04:05.739 –> 02:04:08.159
people on both sides of the fence that say either

02:04:08.159 –> 02:04:10.140
we should have this higher or we shouldn’t have

02:04:10.140 –> 02:04:12.460
it ranked at all we obviously did not rank it

02:04:12.460 –> 02:04:14.979
last time since it didn’t really exist this time

02:04:14.979 –> 02:04:17.420
we’re ranking it at number 80 mike what do you

02:04:17.420 –> 02:04:22.770
think of the legend of korra When did this release?

02:04:23.149 –> 02:04:28.430
2012. I tried watching this at the time, and

02:04:28.430 –> 02:04:32.229
I couldn’t get into it. It is nominated for more

02:04:32.229 –> 02:04:34.029
awards than any show we’ll talk about today.

02:04:34.109 –> 02:04:37.010
It has over 16 nominations for different awards.

02:04:37.390 –> 02:04:41.970
Yeah. I did actually try watching this. I think

02:04:41.970 –> 02:04:44.270
I got through maybe one and a half episodes,

02:04:44.369 –> 02:04:49.689
and it just wasn’t my thing. Steve, what do you

02:04:49.689 –> 02:04:55.890
think? I did watch and while the animation is

02:04:55.890 –> 02:04:57.750
great and the voice acting is great, I don’t

02:04:57.750 –> 02:05:02.130
think I really understood it enough to continue

02:05:02.130 –> 02:05:07.789
with it. It is on Paramount and some of the other

02:05:07.789 –> 02:05:12.609
different platforms at this point. But it’s I

02:05:12.609 –> 02:05:16.750
had to like I didn’t recall that it was a continuation

02:05:16.750 –> 02:05:18.810
of Avatar, even though I knew it was kind of

02:05:18.810 –> 02:05:23.619
the same universe. And it’s set 70 years after

02:05:23.619 –> 02:05:29.000
Avatar, the last airbender. So I think that’s

02:05:29.000 –> 02:05:30.899
part of why I didn’t really understand it was

02:05:30.899 –> 02:05:33.039
because I didn’t have the backstory of the original.

02:05:33.140 –> 02:05:35.760
And I, I did watch part of the original, but

02:05:35.760 –> 02:05:40.220
I think again, it just kind of came down to just

02:05:40.220 –> 02:05:43.060
wasn’t something that totally resonated. And

02:05:43.060 –> 02:05:45.079
maybe I just need to go back and rewatch. I don’t

02:05:45.079 –> 02:05:49.399
know. But based on the little bit I’ve seen,

02:05:50.189 –> 02:05:53.310
I could see where people would find it good.

02:05:53.409 –> 02:05:55.689
And especially when we have a plethora of shows

02:05:55.689 –> 02:05:59.609
that came out after 2012 that had kind of an

02:05:59.609 –> 02:06:02.810
art style that I’ll just say that I totally dislike

02:06:02.810 –> 02:06:06.850
more than some of the Nintendo or the Nickelodeon

02:06:06.850 –> 02:06:11.949
content prior to this. So I think we were at

02:06:11.949 –> 02:06:15.409
like peak Nickelodeon animation here in 2012

02:06:15.409 –> 02:06:17.729
between this and like Turtles and some of the

02:06:17.729 –> 02:06:20.100
other shows that kind of showed up. So I can

02:06:20.100 –> 02:06:22.840
see it being here. It’s not one that I personally

02:06:22.840 –> 02:06:26.300
listed. It feels like an interesting one, too,

02:06:26.359 –> 02:06:28.380
because I know there’s a ton of Avatar The Last

02:06:28.380 –> 02:06:32.300
Airbender fans following on that. But it seems

02:06:32.300 –> 02:06:33.800
like it’s a little split then when it comes to

02:06:33.800 –> 02:06:36.979
Legend of Korra. Some of them are just rabid

02:06:36.979 –> 02:06:39.039
fans of both, and I feel like some of them are

02:06:39.039 –> 02:06:42.140
more fans of Avatar versus Legend of Korra and

02:06:42.140 –> 02:06:45.399
vice versa. It’s always interesting to hear people’s

02:06:45.399 –> 02:06:47.180
take on Legend of Korra. I have not watched either

02:06:47.180 –> 02:06:50.170
one. extensively enough to like making a super

02:06:50.170 –> 02:06:54.050
well -informed opinion i do think there may be

02:06:54.050 –> 02:06:55.930
a few people that should that will say it should

02:06:55.930 –> 02:06:59.210
be higher on our list but i think i’m fine with

02:06:59.210 –> 02:07:02.609
it being on our list i don’t have a well -informed

02:07:02.609 –> 02:07:05.390
opinion of where exactly it should be but i i

02:07:05.390 –> 02:07:07.729
feel like it representation is probably warranted

02:07:07.729 –> 02:07:13.050
so all right that takes us into our the next

02:07:13.050 –> 02:07:15.390
entry that will be in part of our top 80 let’s

02:07:15.390 –> 02:07:27.300
see where we go next We haven’t had a ton of

02:07:27.300 –> 02:07:32.300
shows yet from the WB. We talked about Freakazoid

02:07:32.300 –> 02:07:34.640
a little bit here, and this one technically is

02:07:34.640 –> 02:07:37.500
from Warner Brothers and I believe debuted on

02:07:37.500 –> 02:07:41.300
the Cartoon Network from 2008. Let’s get our

02:07:41.300 –> 02:07:45.539
second, I believe our second DC cartoon here.

02:07:46.319 –> 02:07:51.020
it fell from 71 last time 15 years ago to 79

02:07:51.020 –> 02:07:53.520
so it dropped eight spots not a huge drop but

02:07:53.520 –> 02:07:56.880
a small drop here for batman the brave and the

02:07:56.880 –> 02:08:00.920
bold what do you think of batman the brave and

02:08:00.920 –> 02:08:06.340
the bold being here at number 79 there are two

02:08:06.340 –> 02:08:11.380
things that i love about this show the batman

02:08:11.380 –> 02:08:14.359
of xur and r which is where kevin conroy guest

02:08:14.359 –> 02:08:22.829
starred and then um peewee paul rubens as batmite

02:08:22.829 –> 02:08:27.550
and then that’s it i know it’s obviously a i

02:08:27.550 –> 02:08:30.409
believe a lot it’s a lighter take on on yeah

02:08:30.409 –> 02:08:33.210
compared to a lot of the gritty stuff which i

02:08:33.210 –> 02:08:36.050
think appealed to some folks um i think a lot

02:08:36.050 –> 02:08:37.670
of other folks say it’s like kind of like super

02:08:37.670 –> 02:08:39.170
friends where it could serve as like an introduction

02:08:39.170 –> 02:08:42.590
into the dc shows for people steve what do you

02:08:42.590 –> 02:08:44.680
think of batman the brave and the bold I don’t

02:08:44.680 –> 02:08:46.460
know. I mean, it’s it’s got a pretty good rating

02:08:46.460 –> 02:08:50.960
on like Rotten Tomatoes and IMDb. I found. This

02:08:50.960 –> 02:08:55.260
one is because I think around this time. I was

02:08:55.260 –> 02:09:00.840
getting some of the DVDs to review from Warner

02:09:00.840 –> 02:09:06.420
Brothers and. It may have been shortly after

02:09:06.420 –> 02:09:10.100
this, but this was kind of the gateway show that

02:09:10.100 –> 02:09:15.010
I showed my kids. OK. Because it was a lighter

02:09:15.010 –> 02:09:19.550
tone, but it still kind of gave the vibe. I feel

02:09:19.550 –> 02:09:21.989
like it kind of mixed some of the animated series

02:09:21.989 –> 02:09:25.050
with the 60s hokiness of the Adam West Batman.

02:09:25.489 –> 02:09:27.829
Yeah, very much so. And so you kind of got this

02:09:27.829 –> 02:09:33.149
nice mesh of the two. And it kind of had a retro

02:09:33.149 –> 02:09:35.949
vibe to it, but it was fun. And it was kind of

02:09:35.949 –> 02:09:39.170
like a Super Friends because Batman and his amazing

02:09:39.170 –> 02:09:43.800
friends. He constantly had other people showing

02:09:43.800 –> 02:09:48.359
up and guest starring on his show. And so I feel

02:09:48.359 –> 02:09:52.579
like this. I feel like the fact that it’s on

02:09:52.579 –> 02:09:57.439
here is great. Yeah, it’s not in the same positioning,

02:09:57.539 –> 02:10:00.420
but it’s in the same realm, which goes to show

02:10:00.420 –> 02:10:02.500
that it’s still deserving of being in that same

02:10:02.500 –> 02:10:05.600
bracket, even though it dropped. And there’s

02:10:05.600 –> 02:10:07.140
been other shows that have come out since. So,

02:10:07.140 –> 02:10:11.159
I mean, I can see why it would drop like. myself

02:10:11.159 –> 02:10:14.380
i had it in the 20s and both my kids had it somewhere

02:10:14.380 –> 02:10:17.319
in the 20s i think and then so i mean that’s

02:10:17.319 –> 02:10:20.539
probably part of where it’s at but also always

02:10:20.539 –> 02:10:22.739
adds to that interesting debate between like

02:10:22.739 –> 02:10:25.779
a franchise like how many spots does someone

02:10:25.779 –> 02:10:29.319
have for a specific franchise right or hero or

02:10:29.319 –> 02:10:31.279
a superhero or whatever it might be like do you

02:10:31.279 –> 02:10:34.140
only have room for one show from this franchise

02:10:34.140 –> 02:10:35.579
do you have room for two do you have room for

02:10:35.579 –> 02:10:37.640
three you know how many batman shows will you

02:10:37.640 –> 02:10:39.810
give a spot to And I think some people pick just

02:10:39.810 –> 02:10:41.609
one. Some people are willing to pick more based

02:10:41.609 –> 02:10:43.390
on the quality. So it always is an interesting

02:10:43.390 –> 02:10:46.430
thing to try to get inside people’s heads on

02:10:46.430 –> 02:10:49.890
how they treat that overall. But I think, you

02:10:49.890 –> 02:10:53.210
know, it’s 71 and now 79. It’s stayed pretty

02:10:53.210 –> 02:10:55.869
close to the same spot. So like you said, it

02:10:55.869 –> 02:10:57.970
has some consistency and staying power, I guess

02:10:57.970 –> 02:10:59.789
you could say. All right. Next up, we’re going

02:10:59.789 –> 02:11:03.090
to go to our second most modern show on the entire

02:11:03.090 –> 02:11:07.100
countdown. 78. Come on. Knock it off, Todd. I

02:11:07.100 –> 02:11:08.760
think Amber’s been pretty clear about how she

02:11:08.760 –> 02:11:13.380
feels. I’m nothing like my dad. So we already

02:11:13.380 –> 02:11:16.560
had X -Men 97, which was from 2024. We’re going

02:11:16.560 –> 02:11:18.760
to go back a couple years earlier than that to

02:11:18.760 –> 02:11:22.039
our second most recent show here. This one is

02:11:22.039 –> 02:11:26.300
from 2021. You could see it on Amazon Prime.

02:11:26.960 –> 02:11:29.079
Speaking of channels, I guess we’ll just go with

02:11:29.079 –> 02:11:30.659
the streaming network as it was. Obviously, it

02:11:30.659 –> 02:11:32.739
wasn’t ranked last time around. We’re going with…

02:11:33.100 –> 02:11:35.939
I guess another superhero show, so to speak with

02:11:35.939 –> 02:11:40.159
invincible here at number 78 adult superhero

02:11:40.159 –> 02:11:43.239
animation, almost on a prestige level, definitely

02:11:43.239 –> 02:11:46.199
subverting some Marvel and DC comic tropes, a

02:11:46.199 –> 02:11:48.520
lot of shock value, things of that nature kind

02:11:48.520 –> 02:11:51.920
of use more like a comic arc than a episodic

02:11:51.920 –> 02:11:54.579
TV show. So I think we’ll get a little bit of

02:11:54.579 –> 02:11:59.020
the same people that comment on X -Men 97 may

02:11:59.020 –> 02:12:01.300
have similar comments on this one. Like, is it

02:12:01.300 –> 02:12:03.840
too recent to be on here? Or is the quality good

02:12:03.840 –> 02:12:05.619
enough where it warrants it? Is there recency

02:12:05.619 –> 02:12:07.060
bias? All those different things will come into

02:12:07.060 –> 02:12:09.079
play. Mike, what do you think of Invincible being

02:12:09.079 –> 02:12:12.420
here at number 78? So I’ve never read the comic

02:12:12.420 –> 02:12:14.960
and I’ve never watched the show. I’ve heard nothing

02:12:14.960 –> 02:12:20.239
but good things about the show. I’ve heard people

02:12:20.239 –> 02:12:23.439
say nothing but mixed things about the comic.

02:12:23.880 –> 02:12:28.579
Now, Robert Kirkman is someone I have been reading

02:12:28.579 –> 02:12:34.789
comics from because he is. the main creator behind

02:12:34.789 –> 02:12:37.890
the Energon universe, which has Transformers,

02:12:37.890 –> 02:12:41.149
G .I. Joe, Void Rivals, and now it’ll have Mask

02:12:41.149 –> 02:12:44.050
coming up here in June with the launch of Mask.

02:12:44.789 –> 02:12:48.949
He did create Invincible, I believe, off the

02:12:48.949 –> 02:12:55.510
top of my head. Yep. And this is, you know, developed

02:12:55.510 –> 02:12:59.760
by him and everything else, but I just… This

02:12:59.760 –> 02:13:02.119
is another one that is not on my radar because

02:13:02.119 –> 02:13:07.720
I never really got into the original source material.

02:13:08.100 –> 02:13:14.659
And I don’t know. It just doesn’t. Again, I use

02:13:14.659 –> 02:13:17.460
trailers because that’s what trailers are for.

02:13:17.640 –> 02:13:20.779
They’re advertisements. You either watch them

02:13:20.779 –> 02:13:22.640
or you don’t watch them. But when you watch them,

02:13:22.659 –> 02:13:25.880
you either like the thing or you don’t. And when

02:13:25.880 –> 02:13:27.739
I looked at it, I’m like, yeah, that’s not for

02:13:27.739 –> 02:13:33.069
me. i’ve never actually again doing all the research

02:13:33.069 –> 02:13:36.170
doing for this thing it’s like whoops missed

02:13:36.170 –> 02:13:39.250
it i mean i i think this is not one that’s going

02:13:39.250 –> 02:13:40.689
to be for everybody i don’t think you would like

02:13:40.689 –> 02:13:42.729
this one mike just because i have other similar

02:13:42.729 –> 02:13:44.369
things that it reminds me of that i know you

02:13:44.369 –> 02:13:47.250
don’t like um i watched the first few episodes

02:13:47.250 –> 02:13:49.430
of it and it was definitely enough that if i

02:13:49.430 –> 02:13:51.510
have time at some point i would go back and watch

02:13:51.510 –> 02:13:54.489
it in full because i think it is very high quality

02:13:54.489 –> 02:13:56.350
as far as like how it’s made and it seems like

02:13:56.350 –> 02:13:58.630
it’s got some crazy stuff and a lot of shock

02:13:58.909 –> 02:14:00.449
value that definitely does go into it so i’m

02:14:00.449 –> 02:14:01.970
intrigued to see like what all they do with it

02:14:01.970 –> 02:14:04.069
but again i’ve only watched the first few episodes

02:14:04.069 –> 02:14:06.729
but i do know it’s got a lot of love from people

02:14:06.729 –> 02:14:09.590
in the last five years um so i’m not surprised

02:14:09.590 –> 02:14:13.229
that there was uh 15 people that decided to put

02:14:13.229 –> 02:14:15.729
it on their list steve what do you think really

02:14:15.729 –> 02:14:18.270
quick before steve goes i will say you would

02:14:18.270 –> 02:14:22.489
think that having uh jk simmons in this would

02:14:22.489 –> 02:14:27.500
get me but it just didn’t unfortunately All of

02:14:27.500 –> 02:14:32.000
the clips I’ve seen of this and the few episodes

02:14:32.000 –> 02:14:35.460
I’ve watched, I did not get into this, didn’t

02:14:35.460 –> 02:14:39.479
care for it. Now, the funny thing is, over the

02:14:39.479 –> 02:14:47.859
last week, Rob Liefeld has created a storm on

02:14:47.859 –> 02:14:51.739
social media. Like he does. Deadpool creator,

02:14:51.960 –> 02:14:57.949
because he said… that like he stirred the pot

02:14:57.949 –> 02:15:02.170
more or less because um he says i love invincible

02:15:02.170 –> 02:15:04.550
it’s a fantastic show deserving of all of its

02:15:04.550 –> 02:15:07.609
incredible successes batman the animated series

02:15:07.609 –> 02:15:10.909
is the king of the hill you know aspirational

02:15:10.909 –> 02:15:18.989
work you know and uh btas has actually won emmys

02:15:18.989 –> 02:15:29.539
too And what’s funny is the, the just sheer comments

02:15:29.539 –> 02:15:35.180
on all of the social posts are hilarious because

02:15:35.180 –> 02:15:38.039
everybody is like pretty much in agreements with,

02:15:38.060 –> 02:15:42.100
with his comment. And, you know, aside from the

02:15:42.100 –> 02:15:43.819
fact, you know, some people are like, it’s different

02:15:43.819 –> 02:15:47.279
shows. It’s, you know, as good as it is, it’s

02:15:47.279 –> 02:15:50.500
not even close. Um, you know, cause Batman had,

02:15:50.920 –> 02:15:58.520
the Emmys and everything else. But yeah, he more

02:15:58.520 –> 02:16:01.939
or less said that you’re dumb if you’re saying

02:16:01.939 –> 02:16:06.380
that BTAS is better than Invincible. And just

02:16:06.380 –> 02:16:09.460
based on what I’ve seen, I kind of agree. I think

02:16:09.460 –> 02:16:11.460
that it’s great for those that are looking for

02:16:11.460 –> 02:16:14.960
that new edgy style of superhero type thing,

02:16:15.060 –> 02:16:19.560
even if some of it’s kind of the anti -hero.

02:16:20.090 –> 02:16:25.069
situations and it’s very violent it is for sure

02:16:25.069 –> 02:16:28.270
that but I think that Batman the animated series

02:16:28.270 –> 02:16:30.649
is a better show in that instance so in that

02:16:30.649 –> 02:16:33.829
instance like I will say that Amazon has done

02:16:33.829 –> 02:16:35.670
well for themselves with this being an original

02:16:35.670 –> 02:16:39.489
series and focusing on you know something entirely

02:16:39.489 –> 02:16:43.989
different in the superhero realm than what others

02:16:43.989 –> 02:16:51.329
have done both of them I can see having the notoriety

02:16:51.329 –> 02:16:54.809
based on who was introduced to it uh comparatively

02:16:54.809 –> 02:17:01.629
but i i feel like the majority of it is not going

02:17:01.629 –> 02:17:04.209
like in the long term i feel like it’ll be forgotten

02:17:04.209 –> 02:17:08.389
but again that you know time will tell because

02:17:08.389 –> 02:17:10.329
we’ve also got shows that have been there since

02:17:10.329 –> 02:17:12.790
the 60s that are still on our list so who knows

02:17:12.790 –> 02:17:16.010
but i i think for right now it fits on the list

02:17:16.520 –> 02:17:18.959
yeah we’ll have to see what time uh does to this

02:17:18.959 –> 02:17:20.379
one one way or the other i would have to watch

02:17:20.379 –> 02:17:22.420
more to give like a i would never compare it

02:17:22.420 –> 02:17:24.079
to batman the animated series in any way because

02:17:24.079 –> 02:17:25.540
i feel like it’s a different style different

02:17:25.540 –> 02:17:29.139
going for something different so i yeah i don’t

02:17:29.139 –> 02:17:32.299
even know how that was smart so it it was just

02:17:32.299 –> 02:17:35.260
interesting right so we’ll have to see how that

02:17:35.260 –> 02:17:37.620
how time plays a trick with invincible maybe

02:17:37.620 –> 02:17:40.059
15 years from now it would be different we’ll

02:17:40.059 –> 02:17:41.879
have to wait and see so i only got room for two

02:17:41.879 –> 02:17:45.049
more on this episode of our top 100 so We’ll

02:17:45.049 –> 02:17:46.850
get back to one of those final picks for today.

02:17:47.510 –> 02:17:55.430
77. All right, we’re going to go back to the

02:17:55.430 –> 02:17:58.729
80s from a cartoon from Ruby Spears. This is

02:17:58.729 –> 02:18:02.010
our second largest drop in our countdown. Now,

02:18:02.010 –> 02:18:03.649
I’m not considering shows that dropped all the

02:18:03.649 –> 02:18:05.049
way out because I didn’t do the math for how

02:18:05.049 –> 02:18:06.670
much those dropped, the ones that fell out of

02:18:06.670 –> 02:18:09.290
our countdown. But for those that actually made

02:18:09.290 –> 02:18:11.030
the countdown, we had Super Friends, which dropped

02:18:11.030 –> 02:18:15.950
52 spots. Next one has dropped 46. Those are

02:18:15.950 –> 02:18:18.170
the two biggest drops of the entire countdown.

02:18:18.530 –> 02:18:22.649
So it’s going to go from 32 all the way to 77.

02:18:23.530 –> 02:18:26.250
We’re talking about the NBC series from 1983,

02:18:26.709 –> 02:18:30.670
Alvin and the Chipmunks. So Alvin and the Chipmunks

02:18:30.670 –> 02:18:33.430
with a gigantic drop, but it still remains in

02:18:33.430 –> 02:18:37.319
the top 100 coming in here at number 77. Mike,

02:18:37.379 –> 02:18:38.799
what do you think of Alvin and the Chipmunks?

02:18:38.860 –> 02:18:40.659
It appeared on five of the nine lists we looked

02:18:40.659 –> 02:18:42.879
at, but it has dropped in the last 15 years,

02:18:42.899 –> 02:18:46.319
according to us. The show was crazy good at the

02:18:46.319 –> 02:18:54.860
time. And wow, this is eight seasons. Yeah, I

02:18:54.860 –> 02:19:01.239
don’t know. I remember watching it and I think

02:19:01.239 –> 02:19:07.180
it is good. I don’t know if it’s. this high of

02:19:07.180 –> 02:19:11.440
a spot good we had a we had a rank 32nd last

02:19:11.440 –> 02:19:15.260
time yeah i don’t know what the hell we wanted

02:19:15.260 –> 02:19:18.000
you wanted it to drop more than 50 spots yeah

02:19:18.000 –> 02:19:22.040
i know i mean for me this is the reason i ranked

02:19:22.040 –> 02:19:24.860
this pretty high i ranked this uh 57 last time

02:19:24.860 –> 02:19:27.500
or this time i mean i ranked a 57 so i did have

02:19:27.500 –> 02:19:30.340
it on this side of the 50s but uh unlike last

02:19:30.340 –> 02:19:32.620
time where we had it on the upside of the 50s

02:19:32.620 –> 02:19:35.139
but I think the thing for me is it’s, it’s very

02:19:35.139 –> 02:19:37.879
unique in an early show that really capitalized

02:19:37.879 –> 02:19:41.020
on all of the different, like, I guess you could

02:19:41.020 –> 02:19:43.420
call it like a full ecosystem for its franchise.

02:19:43.479 –> 02:19:46.700
Like it had the cartoon, it had the records or

02:19:46.700 –> 02:19:48.639
the tapes or the different things that had like

02:19:48.639 –> 02:19:51.020
the merchandise that had like, it was a massive

02:19:51.020 –> 02:19:54.659
multimedia brand in a way that no, almost nothing

02:19:54.659 –> 02:19:57.899
else before that had been, you know, with the

02:19:57.899 –> 02:20:00.059
music, with the animation, with all the different

02:20:00.059 –> 02:20:04.109
things and longevity, like I think proves, how

02:20:04.109 –> 02:20:07.889
cultural appeal has lasted with it. Like we’ve

02:20:07.889 –> 02:20:10.649
had multiple live action movies that have come

02:20:10.649 –> 02:20:13.110
out from it. Like people know who Alvin and the

02:20:13.110 –> 02:20:16.590
chipmunks are, you know, the music and like some

02:20:16.590 –> 02:20:19.549
of their albums, like are classic when it comes

02:20:19.549 –> 02:20:22.309
to the way they did the voices, the bag, the

02:20:22.309 –> 02:20:24.389
Zarians, like how they, you know, did the speed

02:20:24.389 –> 02:20:26.250
up of the voices and everything like that. Like,

02:20:26.250 –> 02:20:29.209
is there a nostalgia factor to it? Maybe a little

02:20:29.209 –> 02:20:32.629
bit, but I think just from, its uniqueness at

02:20:32.629 –> 02:20:34.250
the time like what else do you compare this to

02:20:34.250 –> 02:20:36.569
from the 80s or from almost any generation i

02:20:36.569 –> 02:20:38.750
don’t know if there’s a comparable show there

02:20:38.750 –> 02:20:41.989
isn’t so like for me that that’s why i had it

02:20:41.989 –> 02:20:44.149
ranked number 57 am i sad that it comes in here

02:20:44.149 –> 02:20:46.889
77 no i think it’s fine i don’t think it necessarily

02:20:46.889 –> 02:20:49.930
i’m shocked it dropped almost 50 spots but i’m

02:20:49.930 –> 02:20:52.229
not necessarily upset i do think it warrants

02:20:52.229 –> 02:20:55.149
a top 100 spot though yeah i think it warrants

02:20:55.149 –> 02:20:58.110
a spot i was just trying to think of some like

02:20:58.110 –> 02:21:02.709
you wanted it to drop four spots right like maybe

02:21:02.709 –> 02:21:06.129
a little like three more spots probably wanted

02:21:06.129 –> 02:21:08.510
to drop six spots so that it could be 83 and

02:21:08.510 –> 02:21:11.790
it came out in 1983 well you know that’s me and

02:21:11.790 –> 02:21:14.829
my numbers but no but i mean like i was trying

02:21:14.829 –> 02:21:17.790
to think of trying to think of the brand is what’s

02:21:17.790 –> 02:21:21.110
wrong here yeah no exactly but i was trying to

02:21:21.110 –> 02:21:24.750
think of is there another something else that

02:21:24.750 –> 02:21:27.790
i was watching at the same time that i was watching

02:21:27.790 –> 02:21:33.639
like heathcliff garfield and top cat or you know

02:21:33.639 –> 02:21:36.180
something like that i was watching inspector

02:21:36.180 –> 02:21:39.280
gadget and muppet babies and uh everything else

02:21:39.280 –> 02:21:42.940
that appeared in the early 1980s yeah but like

02:21:42.940 –> 02:21:45.040
that’s what i’m saying like i was trying to think

02:21:45.040 –> 02:21:47.360
if there was another similar thing and sadly

02:21:47.360 –> 02:21:50.440
and this is going to be strange as hell the only

02:21:50.440 –> 02:21:53.459
thing i can compare alvin to is jim and the holograms

02:21:53.459 –> 02:21:56.559
because there we go all right the music let’s

02:21:56.559 –> 02:22:00.809
move on to steve yeah I kind of agree with everything

02:22:00.809 –> 02:22:05.049
you guys have said so far on that front. I don’t

02:22:05.049 –> 02:22:07.129
really have anything else to add here, although

02:22:07.129 –> 02:22:11.549
I did enjoy the show. I feel like it kind of

02:22:11.549 –> 02:22:14.690
peaked with the movies and then it kind of faded

02:22:14.690 –> 02:22:17.170
out again. Yeah, I can see that. I’m surprised

02:22:17.170 –> 02:22:20.590
it hasn’t been… Has there been one new series?

02:22:21.770 –> 02:22:23.709
I don’t know. I’d have to check to see if there’s

02:22:23.709 –> 02:22:25.309
been any reboots. I’m surprised if there hasn’t

02:22:25.309 –> 02:22:27.180
been. Because you feel like from an animation

02:22:27.180 –> 02:22:29.959
standpoint, this would probably work again at

02:22:29.959 –> 02:22:32.459
some point from a series versus a live action

02:22:32.459 –> 02:22:36.020
movie. The movies, as cheesy and campy as they

02:22:36.020 –> 02:22:38.559
are, are not terrible from a kid’s standpoint.

02:22:38.819 –> 02:22:42.299
They work all right. I mean, it’s a typical standard

02:22:42.299 –> 02:22:45.940
kids movie trope, but it’s all right. The current

02:22:45.940 –> 02:22:52.850
series is Alvin and the Chipmunks. uh released

02:22:52.850 –> 02:22:59.030
march 30th 2015 yeah march 4th 2023 so it ended

02:22:59.030 –> 02:23:02.850
three years ago that’s the most recent series

02:23:02.850 –> 02:23:04.889
and it’s i thought i had seen some bits and pieces

02:23:04.889 –> 02:23:07.350
of something that was new yeah and it’s literally

02:23:07.350 –> 02:23:13.129
his whole name a l v i and like three n’s with

02:23:13.129 –> 02:23:16.989
exclamation points and the chipmunks i was able

02:23:16.989 –> 02:23:18.790
to get screamed in the show so that makes sense

02:23:18.790 –> 02:23:21.629
yep absolutely All right, that means there’s

02:23:21.629 –> 02:23:23.709
only time for one more today, and we’re going

02:23:23.709 –> 02:23:27.770
to go back as far back in time as we have been

02:23:27.770 –> 02:23:31.489
so far the entire countdown. 76. Here’s who.

02:23:32.649 –> 02:23:36.049
All right, number 76. We’re going all the way

02:23:36.049 –> 02:23:39.389
back into the 50s, which is a decade we have

02:23:39.389 –> 02:23:43.149
not seen yet today. So interested to see your

02:23:43.149 –> 02:23:46.809
guys’ take on this. It did appear last time on

02:23:46.809 –> 02:23:49.500
our countdown as well. Like Gem, it is one of

02:23:49.500 –> 02:23:52.819
two shows that actually rose over the last 15

02:23:52.819 –> 02:23:57.299
years. So it went from 84 to 76. We’re talking

02:23:57.299 –> 02:23:59.979
about Walter Lance’s The Woody Woodpecker Show.

02:24:00.280 –> 02:24:06.000
It debuted on ABC back in 1957, 113 episodes,

02:24:06.100 –> 02:24:07.639
if you want to call them episodes. But obviously,

02:24:07.659 –> 02:24:09.899
this is a bridge between theatrical shorts and

02:24:09.899 –> 02:24:13.239
TV animation, kind of early TV package of theatrical

02:24:13.239 –> 02:24:16.600
cartoons. And kind of shows how TV animation

02:24:16.600 –> 02:24:19.920
was built on repurposed content back in the day.

02:24:20.399 –> 02:24:25.040
Obviously, you have a not a traditional produce

02:24:25.040 –> 02:24:27.700
for TV show, but more of a distribution format.

02:24:27.940 –> 02:24:30.260
Some people might not count this as a quote unquote

02:24:30.260 –> 02:24:33.059
TV show, but I think Woody Woodpecker is one

02:24:33.059 –> 02:24:36.920
of the most iconic classic characters. So I’m

02:24:36.920 –> 02:24:39.540
fine with him being in the top 100. I had him

02:24:39.540 –> 02:24:43.059
actually ranked in the top 50. But I’m glad to

02:24:43.059 –> 02:24:46.379
see that he climbed from 84 to 76. Steve, what

02:24:46.379 –> 02:24:47.639
do you think about the Woody Woodpecker show?

02:24:47.959 –> 02:24:52.739
So let me preface it with I ranked this at 91.

02:24:53.299 –> 02:24:56.239
There we go. My children, on the other hand,

02:24:56.340 –> 02:25:03.540
my oldest ranked it at seven. Nice. And my youngest

02:25:03.540 –> 02:25:07.799
did as well. And they found it on YouTube. I

02:25:07.799 –> 02:25:10.620
like it. And so they’ve been discovering random

02:25:10.620 –> 02:25:14.219
shows that are old by YouTube or Netflix or whatever,

02:25:14.360 –> 02:25:18.219
you know, we happen to have access to. And they

02:25:18.219 –> 02:25:22.180
they were like, this show is great. Like and

02:25:22.180 –> 02:25:24.819
I was like, how did you even they’re like YouTube?

02:25:25.000 –> 02:25:32.440
And I was like. So so that that’s me prefacing

02:25:32.440 –> 02:25:35.319
it there. I do find the show very entertaining

02:25:35.319 –> 02:25:38.799
and I did enjoy it as a kid. I don’t. remember

02:25:38.799 –> 02:25:41.340
a whole lot of why i liked it nowadays because

02:25:41.340 –> 02:25:43.219
like i haven’t gone back and rewatched it just

02:25:43.219 –> 02:25:46.780
because i i used to watch it and i’ve i’ve kind

02:25:46.780 –> 02:25:51.420
of branched out to watching other things um that

02:25:51.420 –> 02:25:54.739
being said i i do feel like it has a place on

02:25:54.739 –> 02:25:56.940
this list and it has stood the test of time because

02:25:56.940 –> 02:25:59.719
it keeps coming back and it’s added in animated

02:25:59.719 –> 02:26:01.780
i think a newer animated series and it’s had

02:26:01.780 –> 02:26:05.360
a movie uh so we’ve we’ve kind of had them kind

02:26:05.360 –> 02:26:08.629
of coming back multiple times over the years

02:26:08.629 –> 02:26:12.010
so i don’t know i’m i’m happy that he made the

02:26:12.010 –> 02:26:14.790
list i did not expect this so that means with

02:26:14.790 –> 02:26:16.690
that piece of information that you revealed which

02:26:16.690 –> 02:26:18.209
i could have seen looked if i looked at all the

02:26:18.209 –> 02:26:21.750
ballots but that means that the woody woodpecker

02:26:21.750 –> 02:26:26.889
show has pulled off being on the top 10 list

02:26:26.889 –> 02:26:30.129
of both our youngest contributor and our oldest

02:26:30.129 –> 02:26:35.069
contributor that’s funny so i didn’t see that

02:26:35.069 –> 02:26:37.850
coming But Keith Scott had this in his top 10

02:26:37.850 –> 02:26:42.489
as well. Awesome. That is crazy. I think that’s

02:26:42.489 –> 02:26:44.090
awesome. So, Mike, what do you think of The Woody

02:26:44.090 –> 02:26:47.850
Woodpecker Show? Love this show. Absolutely love

02:26:47.850 –> 02:26:52.989
it. Just some quick notes here. In 2023, MeTV

02:26:52.989 –> 02:26:55.889
acquired the broadcast rights to all of Walter

02:26:55.889 –> 02:27:01.590
Lance’s cartoons from 1934 to 1972 to air The

02:27:01.590 –> 02:27:07.090
Woody Woodpecker Show on Saturday mornings. uh

02:27:07.090 –> 02:27:11.510
so yeah that’s where you can see it but uh no

02:27:11.510 –> 02:27:14.569
growing up oh man seeing woody woodpecker and

02:27:14.569 –> 02:27:17.909
chili willy and all the all the woody chili willy

02:27:17.909 –> 02:27:20.870
is the only person the only penguin the only

02:27:20.870 –> 02:27:25.610
character out of all the other characters that

02:27:25.610 –> 02:27:27.969
woody woodpecker hung out with he’s the only

02:27:27.969 –> 02:27:30.829
one that i remember off the top of my head i

02:27:30.829 –> 02:27:34.579
couldn’t tell you And I actually can’t tell you

02:27:34.579 –> 02:27:39.139
because they don’t. The Wikipedia article starts

02:27:39.139 –> 02:27:42.000
with the history, the episodes, and then the

02:27:42.000 –> 02:27:45.399
season breakdown. And then the broadcast history,

02:27:45.559 –> 02:27:49.139
the home media, and the references. So it doesn’t

02:27:49.139 –> 02:27:52.840
even list characters or voice actors on the actual

02:27:52.840 –> 02:28:00.450
Wikipedia. Anyway, but Woody Woodpecker. Absolutely

02:28:00.450 –> 02:28:02.670
love Woody Woodpecker. I loved it as a kid. I

02:28:02.670 –> 02:28:04.850
love it as an adult. I’m going to have to go

02:28:04.850 –> 02:28:08.750
watch some episodes on YouTube, apparently. No,

02:28:08.870 –> 02:28:13.170
it’s so fun. Glad it’s on the countdown. And

02:28:13.170 –> 02:28:18.450
yeah, number 76. Yeah, it’s definitely interesting

02:28:18.450 –> 02:28:21.450
to see that we’ve gone all the way back in the

02:28:21.450 –> 02:28:25.270
50s here just right at the end. And there’s been

02:28:25.270 –> 02:28:28.520
a lot of different voices of Woody. the woodpecker

02:28:28.520 –> 02:28:30.860
over the years. Most recently, Eric Bauza has

02:28:30.860 –> 02:28:33.620
been doing it, but Billy West has voiced him

02:28:33.620 –> 02:28:36.879
over the years. And then originally some, some

02:28:36.879 –> 02:28:39.500
female, I mean, Mel Blanc did it for a second,

02:28:39.540 –> 02:28:42.239
but Grace Stafford was a female that had did

02:28:42.239 –> 02:28:45.979
his voice for a while as well. So definitely

02:28:45.979 –> 02:28:48.379
interesting to see one of the classic characters

02:28:48.379 –> 02:28:50.200
come here. Well, you guys kind of, I’m gonna

02:28:50.200 –> 02:28:52.200
give you guys a chance to react to the today’s.

02:28:52.909 –> 02:28:55.129
countdown overall but i’m going to give you like

02:28:55.129 –> 02:28:57.149
i normally do just a quick breakdown of the 25

02:28:57.149 –> 02:29:00.709
that we’ve revealed so far so from a decade standpoint

02:29:00.709 –> 02:29:06.010
we had one from the 50s three from the 60s one

02:29:06.010 –> 02:29:11.049
from the 70s eight from the 80s three from the

02:29:11.049 –> 02:29:15.530
90s five from the 2000s and four from the last

02:29:15.530 –> 02:29:20.430
15 years so right now 80s reign supreme And then

02:29:20.430 –> 02:29:23.510
the 2000s and the pre -1980s coming in next.

02:29:24.090 –> 02:29:30.030
From a network standpoint and a channel standpoint,

02:29:30.190 –> 02:29:32.329
so far the channel that is reigning supreme is

02:29:32.329 –> 02:29:35.309
ABC with five. Then we have Nickelodeon with

02:29:35.309 –> 02:29:37.950
four. Then we dropped down to NBC and Cartoon

02:29:37.950 –> 02:29:39.870
Network with two. We did have four shows that

02:29:39.870 –> 02:29:42.309
were syndicated. From a production company right

02:29:42.309 –> 02:29:44.569
now, it’s tied at the top with Marvel and Hanna

02:29:44.569 –> 02:29:47.579
-Barbera, each with three. Nickelodeon and Warner

02:29:47.579 –> 02:29:49.659
Brothers or Nickelodeon also has three and then

02:29:49.659 –> 02:29:52.639
Warner Brothers and Disney each have two. So

02:29:52.639 –> 02:29:55.940
Steve, overall thoughts so far on this set of

02:29:55.940 –> 02:29:58.559
25, what is your biggest surprise or how do you

02:29:58.559 –> 02:30:01.139
think things are looking so far? Honestly, I’m

02:30:01.139 –> 02:30:06.540
kind of surprised at the sheer change in some

02:30:06.540 –> 02:30:09.799
of their numbering. You know, probably the biggest

02:30:09.799 –> 02:30:14.260
upset was Speed Racer coming from like 349 to

02:30:14.260 –> 02:30:19.639
100. That to me is insane, or 166 to 94 for Top

02:30:19.639 –> 02:30:23.979
Cat, or 143 to 88 for Dragon Ball, 289 to 84

02:30:23.979 –> 02:30:28.840
for Rocko. Those, honestly, are probably the

02:30:28.840 –> 02:30:34.239
biggest, like, wow. Because they didn’t even

02:30:34.239 –> 02:30:36.540
contend last time, and this time they made it.

02:30:36.760 –> 02:30:40.760
And so it makes me wonder, between that and the

02:30:40.760 –> 02:30:43.459
new shows, or the ones that have ranked in a

02:30:43.459 –> 02:30:46.459
slightly different positioning, this list compared

02:30:46.459 –> 02:30:50.280
to the previous one there’s so much different

02:30:50.280 –> 02:30:54.760
already because like I actually went through

02:30:54.760 –> 02:30:58.600
the website to try and figure out okay what were

02:30:58.600 –> 02:31:03.579
our 100 in one list and so I dumped all of the

02:31:03.579 –> 02:31:06.860
the pages the four pages into like chat GPT and

02:31:06.860 –> 02:31:08.579
had it like all right just put them in numerical

02:31:08.579 –> 02:31:11.479
order again and based on you know the points

02:31:11.479 –> 02:31:16.770
and I was like, Holy crap. There’s like a bunch

02:31:16.770 –> 02:31:20.770
of stuff we haven’t even gotten to yet. And yeah,

02:31:20.950 –> 02:31:26.790
I’m, I’m, I’m very intrigued by what’s coming

02:31:26.790 –> 02:31:30.629
down the pipe. Yeah. I’m worried about what’s

02:31:30.629 –> 02:31:34.350
coming down the pipe. Because we know that there’s

02:31:34.350 –> 02:31:37.590
like 20, whatever I said last time, 27 shows

02:31:37.590 –> 02:31:39.329
that are going to drop out altogether, but nobody

02:31:39.329 –> 02:31:42.969
knows which those are. So it’s like, you know,

02:31:42.989 –> 02:31:45.090
outside of a couple that we revealed in the intro

02:31:45.090 –> 02:31:47.329
episode, you know, you don’t know which 27 are

02:31:47.329 –> 02:31:48.930
not going to appear at all. And you may not for

02:31:48.930 –> 02:31:51.510
a while. Makes it kind of interesting. Yeah.

02:31:51.510 –> 02:31:54.569
So I’m a little worried. Yeah, I get why. So

02:31:54.569 –> 02:31:57.889
also today we’ve had eight of the shows that

02:31:57.889 –> 02:32:01.030
climbed up into the rankings. So eight that were

02:32:01.030 –> 02:32:03.149
previously voted on, like Steve just read off

02:32:03.149 –> 02:32:05.309
a bunch of them, but eight that climbed up enough

02:32:05.309 –> 02:32:07.850
to just make it in here now. We will only have

02:32:07.850 –> 02:32:09.469
seven more the entire rest of the countdown.

02:32:10.239 –> 02:32:12.559
So the majority of those have already happened

02:32:12.559 –> 02:32:15.260
right here today. And then we had four shows

02:32:15.260 –> 02:32:17.920
today that just weren’t eligible to be ranked

02:32:17.920 –> 02:32:20.440
that made their list with X -Men 97, Transformers

02:32:20.440 –> 02:32:23.000
Prime, The Legend of Korra, and Invincible. So

02:32:23.000 –> 02:32:25.760
those were also newcomers. So that makes for

02:32:25.760 –> 02:32:28.920
12 out of this 25 that we didn’t talk about 15

02:32:28.920 –> 02:32:32.559
years ago. So that’s half of the list that we’ve

02:32:32.559 –> 02:32:36.809
covered today was new. Definitely intriguing.

02:32:37.010 –> 02:32:38.790
Mike, what are some of your overall thoughts?

02:32:38.989 –> 02:32:41.809
Oh, boy. Like I said, folks, at the beginning,

02:32:41.909 –> 02:32:43.850
and I’m going to say it almost every episode,

02:32:44.090 –> 02:32:49.889
it’s a slobber knocker. We’ve only had five shows

02:32:49.889 –> 02:32:54.129
that their movement was within 10. So Robotech

02:32:54.129 –> 02:32:57.590
was just a couple off. We had Recess, which was

02:32:57.590 –> 02:33:01.409
10 off. Gem was six off. Batman, the Brave and

02:33:01.409 –> 02:33:02.969
the Bold and the Woody the Woodpecker show were

02:33:02.969 –> 02:33:05.739
both eight off. So those are as close as we came

02:33:05.739 –> 02:33:08.780
to like matching what we had last time. But again,

02:33:08.899 –> 02:33:11.360
like I said, look at the difference, look at

02:33:11.360 –> 02:33:14.180
the difference in the 15 years, 15 years ago,

02:33:14.260 –> 02:33:19.379
we had a completely. And again, if we can get

02:33:19.379 –> 02:33:22.540
dirt on here, hopefully one of these episodes,

02:33:22.780 –> 02:33:26.760
we’re going to try to get him on here. He said,

02:33:26.860 –> 02:33:29.120
cause I listened to his episodes that he was

02:33:29.120 –> 02:33:32.079
on 15 years ago. If you imagine, if you guys

02:33:32.079 –> 02:33:34.649
did this differently, if you did, the numbering

02:33:34.649 –> 02:33:36.709
differently or if you did this or did that or

02:33:36.709 –> 02:33:40.250
whatever we’re doing it differently this time

02:33:40.250 –> 02:33:47.110
and instead of doing the 20 181 80 to 60 we’re

02:33:47.110 –> 02:33:51.170
doing it 25 entries at a time listening to that

02:33:51.170 –> 02:33:55.760
181 and hearing us go through this now with the

02:33:55.760 –> 02:34:00.700
25 it’s so much different i know people do talk

02:34:00.700 –> 02:34:02.700
about like doing it different like doing the

02:34:02.700 –> 02:34:04.500
median or doing the average ranking and things

02:34:04.500 –> 02:34:06.239
of that nature well i did pressure test that

02:34:06.239 –> 02:34:07.959
against a lot of different sources online and

02:34:07.959 –> 02:34:10.399
did some research and talked to chat gpt and

02:34:10.399 –> 02:34:12.420
they do say that the way that we are doing it

02:34:12.420 –> 02:34:15.600
is probably the best way to go about it um from

02:34:15.600 –> 02:34:18.899
a consensus standpoint um just because otherwise

02:34:18.899 –> 02:34:21.159
you have to get real creative because if if we

02:34:21.159 –> 02:34:23.719
went just on like how the average ranking or

02:34:23.719 –> 02:34:27.600
something like that, it really skews stuff that

02:34:27.600 –> 02:34:29.559
didn’t get voted on as much, but just got voted

02:34:29.559 –> 02:34:32.000
high. And like, there’s some repercussions that

02:34:32.000 –> 02:34:33.600
would make our list completely different that

02:34:33.600 –> 02:34:36.180
I experimented with and I saw what would happen

02:34:36.180 –> 02:34:38.180
if we did that. And I didn’t like the outcome.

02:34:38.360 –> 02:34:42.040
So we trusted what we, what this method that

02:34:42.040 –> 02:34:44.319
we’ve been using. Cause Hey, even he said it

02:34:44.319 –> 02:34:47.629
was the right way to go. yep absolutely so and

02:34:47.629 –> 02:34:51.190
man like just the number the the names on this

02:34:51.190 –> 02:34:56.450
list so far compared to 15 years ago oh boy i

02:34:56.450 –> 02:34:58.690
would say we have a crazy amount of variety so

02:34:58.690 –> 02:35:02.569
far in this 25 uh yeah nobody’s gonna judge us

02:35:02.569 –> 02:35:05.889
on the on the on the variety to this point we

02:35:05.889 –> 02:35:08.250
had three three or four superhero shows we had

02:35:08.250 –> 02:35:11.790
four animes we had five shows from the olden

02:35:11.790 –> 02:35:15.129
days Three or four shows from modern time periods

02:35:15.129 –> 02:35:16.930
were a little, I mean, yes, there was eight shows

02:35:16.930 –> 02:35:19.690
from the 80s. I don’t know if that means that

02:35:19.690 –> 02:35:21.750
we’re not going to have as many 80s shows because

02:35:21.750 –> 02:35:23.389
they’re all falling now, or if it means that

02:35:23.389 –> 02:35:25.129
maybe the 80s shows will do better than we thought

02:35:25.129 –> 02:35:26.969
they were in all of our predictions. We’ll have

02:35:26.969 –> 02:35:30.010
to wait and see, but definitely a variety of

02:35:30.010 –> 02:35:33.049
stuff that fell so far today. But again, like,

02:35:33.170 –> 02:35:35.469
okay, we had eight shows in the 80s. How many?

02:35:35.790 –> 02:35:37.489
You said how many we had in the 90s. What was

02:35:37.489 –> 02:35:40.409
it? Three, four, three. Okay. Only three. Recess,

02:35:40.510 –> 02:35:43.190
Rocko’s, and Freakazoid. That’s it. Right. Okay.

02:35:43.250 –> 02:35:46.149
But you got to understand, folks, for the last

02:35:46.149 –> 02:35:49.489
17 years, if you’ve been listening that long,

02:35:49.629 –> 02:35:52.649
if you’ve come in at some point within those

02:35:52.649 –> 02:35:55.530
17 years, if you’ve listened to anything that

02:35:55.530 –> 02:35:59.829
any of us have done on the GCRN, you know what

02:35:59.829 –> 02:36:04.000
our… tastes are you know what we like you know

02:36:04.000 –> 02:36:08.159
what we do here you know what our biases are

02:36:08.159 –> 02:36:10.680
and we’re not even trying to be biased the list

02:36:10.680 –> 02:36:13.760
is already made the list is already done and

02:36:13.760 –> 02:36:17.639
as optimus solo said he’s the only one that has

02:36:17.639 –> 02:36:19.860
the list steve and i are learning this stuff

02:36:19.860 –> 02:36:23.639
and steve myself and any of any guests that we

02:36:23.639 –> 02:36:27.139
get in future episodes we’re learning this stuff

02:36:27.139 –> 02:36:31.979
as he reveals it so Yeah, we had an 80s heavy

02:36:31.979 –> 02:36:34.620
episode with eight shows this time. We only had

02:36:34.620 –> 02:36:37.260
three 90s shows. Maybe next episode will be five

02:36:37.260 –> 02:36:41.239
90s shows. We don’t know. You never know. But

02:36:41.239 –> 02:36:45.819
it’s one of those things where I think the 90s

02:36:45.819 –> 02:36:49.239
are going to rear their ugly head and we’re going

02:36:49.239 –> 02:36:52.959
to get 90s shows. I think some 2000s cartoons

02:36:52.959 –> 02:36:57.639
are going to show up. I guarantee you more Transformers

02:36:57.639 –> 02:37:01.629
shows are going to show up. I don’t know where.

02:37:01.670 –> 02:37:06.610
I don’t know when. I think they will. Yeah, and

02:37:06.610 –> 02:37:08.309
some stuff is going to show up sooner rather

02:37:08.309 –> 02:37:11.149
than later. So just a tease for next week’s episode.

02:37:11.489 –> 02:37:16.229
In our 75 through 51 segment, we will see two

02:37:16.229 –> 02:37:20.670
people’s number one overall picks fall in the

02:37:20.670 –> 02:37:25.010
75 through the 51 range. So just have to tune

02:37:25.010 –> 02:37:30.799
in to see which two those shows are. Mike? get

02:37:30.799 –> 02:37:33.899
us out of here yep we’re gonna get the heck out

02:37:33.899 –> 02:37:37.239
of here folks all right toonsters as always we

02:37:37.239 –> 02:37:39.739
want to thank you for joining us here on the

02:37:39.739 –> 02:37:42.540
geek cast radio network’s top 100 animated series

02:37:42.540 –> 02:37:45.559
uh if you’d like to get in contact with us or

02:37:45.559 –> 02:37:47.180
leave feedback for the show there are several

02:37:47.180 –> 02:37:49.719
ways to do so visit the website geekcastradio

02:37:49.719 –> 02:37:52.500
.com where it is very simple to listen to and

02:37:52.500 –> 02:37:55.440
comment on all of the content Plus, we have a

02:37:55.440 –> 02:37:57.579
brand new fourth wall store where you can buy

02:37:57.579 –> 02:38:01.840
our merch. Visit shop .geekcastradio .com. Send

02:38:01.840 –> 02:38:05.440
us email to feedback at geekcastradio .com. You

02:38:05.440 –> 02:38:07.420
can check us out on all the podcatching clients

02:38:07.420 –> 02:38:12.040
you choose to use. You can follow us on X. It’s

02:38:12.040 –> 02:38:15.700
at geekcastradio. I am at TFG1. Mike, Steve,

02:38:15.819 –> 02:38:22.120
what’s your Twitter? At SCP21. And Kev, what’s

02:38:22.120 –> 02:38:27.229
yours? At Optimus Solo. all right you can also

02:38:27.229 –> 02:38:29.430
become a fan on facebook go to facebook .com

02:38:29.430 –> 02:38:32.090
slash geekcast radio network to check all the

02:38:32.090 –> 02:38:36.389
stuff out over there as optimus solo mentioned

02:38:36.389 –> 02:38:39.170
a moment ago next time will be the top 100 series

02:38:39.170 –> 02:38:44.889
reveal for numbers 75 to 51 for now i am tf2

02:38:44.889 –> 02:38:49.270
and mike with steve megatron and optimus solo

02:38:50.350 –> 02:38:53.569
you were listening until next time oh yeah and

02:38:53.569 –> 02:38:55.090
unleash the tune in you

Tagged as:

About the author call_made

TFG1Mike

TFG1Mike is a geek with many interests. He has been podcasting for over a decade, and sees no stopping point in sight. From Transformers, He-Man, Batman, Comics, movies, video games, cartoons, and so much more, Mike has a zeal for the things he loves, and he will bring the hammer down on the things that he has a disdain for. He's generally a postive person, but negativity can creep in there. Mike is all about the innuendos and innuendon'ts too. You'll hear him on many of The GCRN podcasts!

More posts

There are 3 comments

  • I decided to make my own list, and for this first part, I either didn’t have the show on my list or I ranked it extremely high.

    Of the 25 shows revealed, I didn’t have 14 of them on my list (Robotech, Full Metal Alchemist, Star Wars: Clone Wars, Top Cat, Danger Mouse, Super Mario Bros, Dragon Ball, Beetlejuice, Spectacular Spider-Man, Jem, Legend of Korra, Batman: Brave & Bold, Invincible, & Woody Woodpecker).

    Here is where I ranked everyone else from Part 1. Speed Racer (74), Recess (33), Gummy Bears (94), Super Friends (53), Invader Zim (87), Transformers: Prime (49), X-Man ’97 (18), Wacky Races (69), Rocko (14), Freakazoid (36), Alvin & Chipmunks (32).

  • GCRN 2020 SHORT2

    The GeekCast Radio Network™ is a geek media organization dedicated to reviewing, analyzing and geeking out to the greatest parts of pop culture from the past, the present and the future. Our motto and mission is simple, we want to “Unleash the Geek in YOU!”™

    SPECIALS

    Experience the Awesome Limited Edition Content From The GeekCast Radio Network

    >