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Episode 05.06.2026

373 Episodes
The wait is over! In the official premiere of The GeekCast Radio Network’s Top 100 Animated Series 15th Anniversary Edition, host Steve Megatron kicks off the countdown alongside TFG1Mike and the master of the list himself, OptimusSolo. With over 40 contributors and a decade and a half of history behind us, this is the most diverse and unpredictable ranking we have ever produced.
As we dive into shows 100 through 76, the landscape is already shifting. Some nostalgic classics that once dominated the list have been dethroned, while new contenders and fresh perspectives have pushed their way into the Top 100 for the first time. From early morning favorites to prime-time animation powerhouses, we are breaking down the “nerd data,” the upsets, and the shows that barely survived the cut. If you think you’ve predicted the #1 spot, think again—the 2026 edition is full of surprises!
What you’ll get out of this episode:
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This is Neil Ross, and you are listening to the
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Geekcast Radio Network. It’s time. The countdown
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begins. The Geekcast Radio Network Top 100 Animated
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Series Countdown! Hello and welcome to The Geekcast
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Radio Network’s Top 100 Animated Series 15th
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Anniversary 2026 Edition. I’m your host, Steve
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Megatron, and joining me in this animated foray
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are TFG and Mike. Hello. And Optimus Solo. This
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year’s countdown is shaping up to be possibly
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the most unpredictable one we’ve ever assembled
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based on our intro episode alone. With over 40
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submissions, new tunes, and a wider age demographic
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than any previous list, well, the results are
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going to be anything but predictable. Some shows
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that didn’t get a single vote last time, suddenly
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gone, while others that were present on the old
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nostalgic list… barely cracked the top 100
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by hitting the 110 to 101 range this time around.
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So with all of these new contenders, fresh perspectives,
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and let’s be honest, more than a few potential
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upsets waiting to happen, and a lot of probably
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upset nerds in the comment section, including
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those on the panel, the combination of longtime
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fans, new voices, and even a bit of celebrity
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input means that this list is going to hit deep.
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surprise more often, and spark more debate than
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ever before. So trust us if you think you know
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what’s coming and taking the number one spot.
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You really don’t. Obviously coming from someone
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who hasn’t even seen the list yet. So with that,
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take it away, Optimus Solo. Yes, that’s a perfect
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intro to what we have in store. I do want to
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peel back the curtain just a little bit here
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at the beginning. I guess it’s a little inside
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baseball or whatever phrase you want to use.
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but obviously folks can’t see us. This is not
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a video version. And even if they could see us,
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they would not be able to see my screen. And
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I just want to give people a little bit of information
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on what I’m looking at, just because it may get
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me out of trouble. If I’m ever like stumbling
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over my words or fumbling through things or this,
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that, and the other. And I also want to talk
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about something that I’m not going to do this
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time around that we have done in previous top
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100s, just because you’ll understand why in a
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minute. So I have. multiple screens open here
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i have uh multiple excel database sheets and
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spreadsheets i have some internet pages open
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not so much that it’s going to bog down the record
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or anything like that but i got a lot of stuff
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open and the main sheet that i’m looking at consists
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of a lot of information so i have the top 100
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list right so i have the numbers that we’re going
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to reveal here 100 through 76 i have the show
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names I have how many points they garnered. I
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have how many lists they appeared on. I have
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how much they increased or decreased their spot
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from 15 years ago, or if they were even on the
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list or got votes 15 years ago. I have the average
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that it got ranked. If you take just the people
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that voted for it, what it would have averaged
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just based on those lists. I also have… what
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spot it was on the last list. I have what company
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produced it. I have what channel it aired on.
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I have what year it debuted. I have how many
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episodes it was on, how many awards it got nominated
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for, how many of the nine lists that we kind
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of looked as we were trying to pressure test
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this they exist on. Then I have some sub -rankings
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of like each time period, each channel, each
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production company as it breaks down just for
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this set of 25. He’s a baseball statistician
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for all stuff. And so we’ll be given a lot of
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information out over the course. And one thing
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that I’ve done in the past that we’re not going
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to do this time is I do not, the one piece of
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information I do not have, I’m sorry. It’s just
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not something I wanted to take on is in the past,
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especially like the first time we did this round,
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I knew exactly where every contributor had each
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show ranked. Okay. So I could say like, You know,
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Steve and Mike and myself had this in the 20s.
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Such and such was the highest rank. They had
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this at 13, et cetera, et cetera. There’s 44
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people. I don’t have that. It’s not worth it.
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Yeah, I do have if it showed up at number one
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on somebody’s list. And if so, how many people
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had it at number one? That’s as much as you’re
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going to get revealed from the contributors list.
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We can do more revealing of contributor stuff
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in the wrap up at the end. Yeah, that’s fine.
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That’s more than fine. I mean, sounds like you
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have an entire bat cave of Dark Knight screens
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in front of you. I could scroll over on my spreadsheet
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and then there’s the old top 100 list from 15
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years ago. And then there’s another chart that
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has just the new shows that made it this time
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that didn’t last time. Then there’s another chart
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that has the shows that were on it last time
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that aren’t on it this time. There’s a lot of
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stuff. You’re not even doing math in my head
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already hurts. That’s just one tab. There’s actually
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like six tabs on this spreadsheet. I’m not even
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going to go into the other ones. All right. So
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that’s what we have against us today. And we’re
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going to start with that first set of 25. So
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we’re going to reveal live on the record numbers
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100 through 76. Steve and Mike do not know what’s
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coming. So there will be live reactions. We should
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be somewhat better prepared than we were 15 years
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ago, like we said in the intro episode, because
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all of us know which shows were on the 264 nominee
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list. So it’s not like we’re going to get something
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completely out of left field that we’ve not discussed
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in the last six months while we did all of those
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nomination records or nomination reveal records.
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So there may be some things that still surprise
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them, but they’re not going to be something that’s
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like, hey, remember when we didn’t talk at all
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about this one show? Like, that’s not going to
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happen. And again, folks, I will say before we
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kick this off, if you have not listened to the
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nomination process episodes, please go listen
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to those. We put a lot of work into those because
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that’s part of this whole experiment this time
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around and how we did this. And to piggyback
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off of that, you’ll get more of our mentality
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and the thoughts behind the list by listening
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to those episodes. Exactly. And I will try to
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do my best for each show that comes up. Like
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we will have a multiple discussions, right? We
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will have the discussion come up of does it belong
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in the top 100 or not, especially more so in
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this episode and maybe the next episode. That’s
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when you usually get the conversations on does
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it belong or not. In the other episodes, when
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we start talking about not the top 50, those
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discussions usually go away. It’s no longer about
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do they belong or do they not? It’s about higher
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or do they belong lower? Yeah. So we will have
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those conversations, but I feel like I can at
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least try to play the role of giving the argument
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for why each of these 25, the argument that some
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people would make, the three of us might disagree.
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The three of us might say, we don’t think this
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one belongs, but I will at least try to give
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the, the rationale for why somebody would make
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a case for each of these shows. And then we’ll
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have to decide if we agree or disagree with it.
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The other thing I would like to point out is
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if, You’ve never listened to any of our top 100
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countdowns before. The intro episode is kind
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of a standard length. The wrap -up episode is
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kind of a standard length. But for these episode
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reveals, when we do these 25 shows, you might
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as well buckle up, get yourself something to
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drink, and sit back because we do spend some
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time on these. Yeah, we do. These 100 through
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76, 75 to… 51 50 to 26 and then especially
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25 to one number one i would say range from two
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hours 15 minutes to just over three hours 30
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minutes we’ll see what happens this time that’s
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just based on history and what how these have
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kind of gone right exactly all right well you
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also want to mention uh do you want to mention
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the fact that we have a numerous amount of ties
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here Or did you want to save that? We are going
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to have six ties over the course of the top 100,
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and half of those will come in today’s episode.
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So we’re going to try something different today
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and debate the placement of each of those on
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air. There’s three of us, so there should be
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an odd number of votes. So that means we can
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kind of pick and choose which ones get those
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specific spots. And if it’s a train wreck, I
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apologize, and we’ll call an audible for the
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next episode. Actually, we won’t have another
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tie until the top 50. We’ll have three in this
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episode, none in the second episode, and then
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we’ll have two in the top 50 episode and one
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in the top 25 episode. All right. So any questions
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or comments before we start revealing, Mike?
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Don’t think so. Steve? I don’t have any either.
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All right. Let’s get into it then. 100. Look
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at those clouds up there. They’re beautiful.
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And it’s a perfect day for a drive. Aw, Trixie,
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please stop talking. I’m trying to figure something
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out. Oh! He’s going over that cliff! 99. A battle
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for our planet’s survival was on, and young Rick
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Hunter found himself caught up in the war. All
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right. As we teased in the last episode, we are
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starting the entire countdown off with a tie.
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And I find this humorous because I can see which
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two shows are tied. And I think it’s going to
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be a fun little interesting debate on which one
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takes the 100 spot and which one takes the 99
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spot. But they are definitely related in a way.
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So the two shows that we need to debate right
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now on which one gets 100 and which one gets
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99, they both scored 762 points. One was on 13
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lists. The other was on 15 lists. One, we did
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not rank at all last time around, even though
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it was eligible. And one has fallen two spots
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from its original ranking 15 years ago. So it’s
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going from, well, or one, depending on how this
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tie breaks ends up, because it was 98 last time
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around, and it’s going to be either 99 or 100
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this time. So one of them is from 1967. The other
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is from 1985. We need to debate the merits and
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decide. The order for Speed Racer from 1967 and
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Robotech from 1985. So Speed Racer, I’ll just
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go quick and then I’ll let Steve and Mike decide
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on what they think of these two and in what order
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we should go in them. Speed Racer is obviously
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a very early anime entry into for the US audience.
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We’re talking about 1967. kind of like a gateway
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show to anime and it probably has a lot of historical
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merit maybe not as much like entertainment quality
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like overall goodness but historical importance
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robotech kind of introduced a different way it’s
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still anime you could still consider it a gateway
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anime show but what this did in the 1980s was
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kind of flip the script a little bit because
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not only was it also introducing anime to some
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folks but in a decade that was much more about
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serialized or not non -serialized content this
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was a serialized storytelling cartoon so up until
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that point we got you know episodes of the week
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and and there was not much continuity and robotech
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kind of did something different for the u .s
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audiences here in 1985 steve what do you think
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of the merits of these two and which one would
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you rank higher so i i remember watching these
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late at night as a as a young teenager and honestly
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like they they both have their own individual
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charm they both have their individual things
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that they kind of did for animation you know
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especially with speed racer being kind of that
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initial kind of jump into the you know the anime
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then you get the theme song you get the fact
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that you know the Mach 5 and you know just everything
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about that after a while I found Speed Racer
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to be very grating to watch the voice acting
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was fine the I mean it wasn’t stellar either
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but The characters were kind of annoying to some
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degree. They both share a very similar aesthetic
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as far as the people are concerned. Even though
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they’re 20 years apart. Although Robotech has
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more of that polished look. Kind of the look
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that they gave some of the later Transformers
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series that never made it over to America. And
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between the two… Speed Racer has that longevity
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that you kind of just know what it is and they
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tried to make a film of it and it was terrible.
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Robotech, as far as I can recall, they’ve only
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done animation with it. They’ve done some video
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games. They’ve tried to kind of do different
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things with it with different films, animated
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films. I honestly liked it just because we got…
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transforming you know kind of mechs that you’re
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able to have them pilot uh it’s a little bit
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darker it has i don’t know i i actually read
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some and i can’t remember them now but i read
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some robotech books like back when i was like
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11 or 12 and i just remember enjoying them so
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i i for me i’m gonna vote robotech as the superior
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show out of these two I understand that people
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are going to like one more than the other, but
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I honestly think that Robotech kind of has that.
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Even though it started in the 80s, it’s still,
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they’ve still released content even into the,
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you know, 20 teens and tried to bring it about
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with video games and card games and everything
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else. I think it’s interesting because I think,
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you know, like the Speed Racer, important versus
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enjoyable. And like you said, it’s, it can be
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great. And if you could like try to watch a bunch
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of it today, do you just like say, well, the
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important part outweighs it or does the, the,
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the lack of enjoyability that you get from watching
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it, bring it down. And then Robotech is kind
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of, I guess some people call it like a Frankenstein
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of, of a cartoon show because it is pretty much
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a combination of a lot of different things that
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was happening that kind of got brought together
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for a U S audience. So it’s interesting, but
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I, I think, you know, Mike, you mentioned in
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the intro episode that we might get some science
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fiction and some robot related stuff and things
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like that. And we’re starting exactly in that
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kind of space. So for you, how does it come down
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to Speed Racer and Robotech? So in the lead up
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to all of this, in our however many months long
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that it took us to plan this whole thing, to
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get where we are to today, R2, D2. huh uh i that’s
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the astromech at robotech yeah i know i watched
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a lot of stuff that i’ve never seen before and
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speed racer and robotech were two of the things
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that i had seen here there kind of thing i’ve
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seen them in past yeah i’ve never really i never
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really sought those out i it was just neither
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one of them were real like When you mentioned
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Speed Racer to me, I know what it is and I had
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seen what it was, but I’m more speed buggy than
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I am Speed Racer. I’m more sputtering speed buggy
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than I am Speed Racer. So I went and I because
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again, part of the part of this project for me
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was seeking out the stuff that I had never seen
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before or rewatching things and trying to. give
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them a better fair shake than i did the first
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time around 15 years ago i still hate family
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guy for the most part anyway i’ll forgive you
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yeah whatever anyway uh but yeah i i gotta go
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with robotech robotech was cooler it was more
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interesting even though it was going up against
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aliens It was still more interesting to me than
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Speed Racer. Robotech definitely fared better
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15 years ago. So like I said, last time we did
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this countdown, Robotech was at the number 98
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spot. Speed Racer may make the case for the biggest
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jump that we’re going to see in this entire countdown.
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Because Speed Racer 15 years ago came in at 349th
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place. Wow. And it now is climbing into what
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appears to be the 100th spot here because you
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two have both said Robotech, which is the way
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I would have gone as well. So we have Speed Racer
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at number 100. So from 349 to 100, and then Robotech
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goes from 98 to 99. So that is where we start
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today. One humongous jump and one change of one
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spot. Nice. We see both ends of the spectrum.
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It’s an interesting start. Let’s see where we
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go from here. 98. Daddy has a lot of work to
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do. Bye -bye. Full Metal Alchemist. Well, we’re
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not going to go too far, I guess, in one respect
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for our number 98. Although time period, we are
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jumping a little bit. So we went from 1967 with
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Speed Racer to 1985 with Robotech. And let’s
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go on into the 2000s, 2003 specifically. for
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this show that did not appear on the original
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countdown because it didn’t didn’t exist or barely
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existed at that point um and we’re gonna keep
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it though with the uh the theme of some anime
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to start off our countdown so let’s go with full
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metal alchemist for our number 98 spot now this
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is one that’s interesting because it’s also kind
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of a First foray into shows that have had multiple
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incarnations or variations or spinoffs or sequels,
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reboots, whatever you want to call it, which
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always brings up the discussion point as we go
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through these countdowns of when that happens.
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Is it harder for a show because you split your
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vote between some of the different versions of
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it and you only vote for one versus the others?
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Or how does that affect things? It’s kind of
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interesting when it comes to that. It is widely
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respected, though, in the world of anime. So,
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Mike, what do you think? We have three animes
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here in a row and we’re jumping decades at a
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time. So we’re at Fullmetal Alchemist here with
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number 98. I think this list is way more interesting
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at this point compared to the old one when it
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comes to the anime representation. I even though
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I already said so far that I tried going back
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and watching some of the stuff. Some of this
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stuff was hard for me to find on legal channels
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that I didn’t really have to purchase like or
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finding good quality versions of stuff like on
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YouTube and things like that. And I just never
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could get into Full Metal Alchemist. So I haven’t
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seen a lot of this show. Sorry. Also, our first
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entrance or entrance that originally debuted
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on Adult Swim, I think here in the US. Steve,
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from an anime standpoint, we already teased one
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of them in our introduction episode because Neon
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Genesis Evangelion has already fallen. It was
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107. Now we get Robotech Speed Racer and Full
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Metal. Is that a good sign for anime or a bad
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sign for anime? I mean, the fact that it made
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the list to begin with is a good thing for anime.
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Yes, this one is very critically acclaimed. as
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a manga series, as well as its iteration here.
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I wonder… I’m sure we’re going to get hate
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for this one, just because of the nature of it.
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I do know that it has a certain audience. It’s
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not one that I’ve put on my list, but it’s also
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not one that I… hated like outright just didn’t
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like it was just kind of one i i had to make
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a selection of which animes i was putting on
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there and it didn’t resonate as much with me
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as some other ones so it ended up not making
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the chopping block for me there but i i do know
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that this one is very much along the same lines
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of some of the shows i would have put on my list
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had other ones not been there yeah um Got the
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same kind of, you know, cheesy stuff, battles,
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magic. I mean, you’ve got, you’ve got all these
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different elements that, that kind of play into
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that. Um, it, it even, as far as like some of
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the, some of the notoriety has even beaten things
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like attack on Titan and some other stuff like
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that. So, um, and they also have it on Netflix.
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So if you’re trying to watch some of it, they
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have you know the the different uh they have
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five parts uh which are i believe like five episodes
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a piece or something or maybe more uh about 10
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episodes a piece per part so you’re looking at
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about like 50 episodes i had all three of these
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first shows ranked on my list all between numbers
00:23:05.910 –> 00:23:10.910
77 and 82 so i i understand why the argument
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exists for all of them and i i don’t think we
00:23:14.609 –> 00:23:18.819
can i think all of them couldn’t be debated too
00:23:18.819 –> 00:23:21.099
much about belonging or not. I think order and
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where they fall, that’ll be a different conversation
00:23:23.319 –> 00:23:25.859
we can have later. But yeah, interesting start
00:23:25.859 –> 00:23:27.779
to the countdown with our first three shows,
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all being anime. We are not going to go very
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far for the next one. 97. For over a thousand
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generations, the Jedi Knights were the guardians
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of peace and justice in the old Republic before
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the dark times, before the empire. All right.
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I might’ve teased you by thinking we were going
00:23:47.259 –> 00:23:48.940
to have another anime, but instead we’re going
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to stay in the year 2003. That’s what I meant
00:23:50.940 –> 00:23:53.579
by not going too far. Um, so with our number
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98 pick, we had our first adult swim show for
00:23:56.359 –> 00:23:58.839
our number 97 pick. We’re going to the world
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of cartoon network from 2003. You either are
00:24:02.859 –> 00:24:05.599
a fan of this show or you do not like it at all.
00:24:05.660 –> 00:24:07.579
I feel like it’s one extreme or the other. I
00:24:07.579 –> 00:24:09.259
don’t think there’s a lot of people in the middle.
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Our number 97 is the 2003 star Wars. Clone Wars.
00:24:16.470 –> 00:24:21.230
This would be the Tarkovsky one, not Star Wars
00:24:21.230 –> 00:24:23.970
The Clone Wars from 2008. This is Star Wars Clone
00:24:23.970 –> 00:24:32.289
Wars 2003. Yes. So this one actually fell quite
00:24:32.289 –> 00:24:37.470
a few spots from our last time. It fell 31 spots
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on the countdown. So it was somewhere in the
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60s, 15 years ago. It has dropped all the way
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down to number 97, almost off the list. entirely
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mike what do you think of star wars clone wars
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it was okay it was interesting at the time it
00:24:52.900 –> 00:25:00.940
was coming off the heels of attack of the it
00:25:00.940 –> 00:25:03.180
was in between attack of the clones and revenge
00:25:03.180 –> 00:25:06.799
of the sith so it was an interesting time period
00:25:06.799 –> 00:25:17.119
between 2002 and 2005 so It was a cool interest.
00:25:17.299 –> 00:25:20.720
Again, you’re talking about Genndy Tartakovsky,
00:25:20.839 –> 00:25:24.039
who didn’t do the Powerpuff Girls, or he did
00:25:24.039 –> 00:25:26.880
something else. I forget what else he did. He
00:25:26.880 –> 00:25:33.640
did Samurai Jack. Samurai Jack, yeah. Dexter,
00:25:33.720 –> 00:25:35.880
that’s what he did. Two Stupid Dogs, Dexter’s
00:25:35.880 –> 00:25:39.900
Lab. He did do the Powerpuff Girls. He did direct
00:25:39.900 –> 00:25:44.299
several of them. uh so guy was a staple of of
00:25:44.299 –> 00:25:46.640
cartoon network like the beginning of cartoon
00:25:46.640 –> 00:25:49.579
network so and he’s done other things like you
00:25:49.579 –> 00:25:52.779
know hotel transylvania the powerpuff girls uh
00:25:52.779 –> 00:25:55.599
he’s worked on batman the animated series yeah
00:25:55.599 –> 00:25:59.740
he’s the he’s one of the main reasons why i was
00:25:59.740 –> 00:26:01.359
not a fan of cartoon network in the beginning
00:26:01.359 –> 00:26:04.640
it was it was definitely an acquired taste at
00:26:04.640 –> 00:26:07.460
the beginning and i feel like you either loved
00:26:07.460 –> 00:26:11.420
his animation style or you didn’t yes and In
00:26:11.420 –> 00:26:14.799
some instances, it worked. In this particular
00:26:14.799 –> 00:26:18.460
instance, I don’t think so. But we at least got
00:26:18.460 –> 00:26:21.799
to keep the voice actors for when they actually
00:26:21.799 –> 00:26:26.400
brought it over as the Clone Wars. I have heard
00:26:26.400 –> 00:26:28.140
the argument out there from some people that
00:26:28.140 –> 00:26:30.039
say this is the coolest Star Wars ever looked.
00:26:30.180 –> 00:26:33.160
I am not in that camp, but I know there is a
00:26:33.160 –> 00:26:34.960
segment of the population that believes that.
00:26:36.009 –> 00:26:41.250
I think at the time, if we didn’t get the Clone
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Wars and everything the Clone Wars did, if we
00:26:47.750 –> 00:26:53.049
had only gotten this, it was at the time the
00:26:53.049 –> 00:26:59.069
coolest. Because before this, what did we have?
00:26:59.410 –> 00:27:01.230
I mean, we had the Ewoks and the droids in the
00:27:01.230 –> 00:27:06.069
80s. but that’s all we had yeah that’s all we
00:27:06.069 –> 00:27:08.849
had the star wars christmas special yeah that’s
00:27:08.849 –> 00:27:10.690
all that existed this also did introduce kind
00:27:10.690 –> 00:27:11.990
of that like mike i don’t know if it introduced
00:27:11.990 –> 00:27:14.210
it but uh it’s one of the first times i remember
00:27:14.210 –> 00:27:16.710
it i shouldn’t say it introduced it because this
00:27:16.710 –> 00:27:19.430
existed like in the early classic era but like
00:27:19.430 –> 00:27:22.230
from a cartoon that was coming out in this time
00:27:22.230 –> 00:27:24.470
period like the the micro episode format from
00:27:24.470 –> 00:27:26.990
a storytelling standpoint and things of that
00:27:26.990 –> 00:27:29.089
nature was kind of a an interesting take i’ll
00:27:29.089 –> 00:27:31.779
give it that much but Yeah, it was kind of a
00:27:31.779 –> 00:27:35.200
new foray into the world of animation for this
00:27:35.200 –> 00:27:42.019
franchise. Yeah, no, absolutely. And again, they
00:27:42.019 –> 00:27:45.880
had to do something. And literally, as I’m looking
00:27:45.880 –> 00:27:48.940
at the Wikipedia article, it begins shortly after
00:27:48.940 –> 00:27:51.700
Attack of the Clones. So literally, they were
00:27:51.700 –> 00:27:55.400
bridging the gap between Attack of the Clones
00:27:55.400 –> 00:27:59.519
and… Yes. I was going to say, however, it’s…
00:27:59.920 –> 00:28:04.980
not considered official canon no no no yeah yeah
00:28:04.980 –> 00:28:08.079
yeah no no i understand that i’m just saying
00:28:08.079 –> 00:28:11.779
going with the timeline of what star wars was
00:28:11.779 –> 00:28:16.880
doing at the time from 2002 to 2005 they had
00:28:16.880 –> 00:28:21.000
it’s similar it’s not as bad as the christmas
00:28:21.000 –> 00:28:26.029
special thank god uh but it’s similar to what
00:28:26.029 –> 00:28:29.269
the christmas special did between star wars and
00:28:29.269 –> 00:28:35.970
empire this is the bridge between phantom or
00:28:35.970 –> 00:28:38.789
not phantom attack of the clones and revenge
00:28:38.789 –> 00:28:42.170
of the sith i liked it i thought it was fun i
00:28:42.170 –> 00:28:45.750
like the clone wars much better speaking of that
00:28:45.750 –> 00:28:48.849
steve we are into a franchise here obviously
00:28:48.849 –> 00:28:52.150
with star wars if star wars Clone Wars comes
00:28:52.150 –> 00:28:54.690
in here at number 97. What is your guess for
00:28:54.690 –> 00:28:56.569
how many Star Wars shows we get in total on the
00:28:56.569 –> 00:29:01.670
entire countdown? Probably all of them. Okay.
00:29:01.769 –> 00:29:06.529
Because there’s three more. Three more prominent
00:29:06.529 –> 00:29:08.250
ones, I should say. There have been a couple
00:29:08.250 –> 00:29:10.369
other limited edition series, but I think there’s
00:29:10.369 –> 00:29:13.430
three other prominent ones. So I foresee a lot
00:29:13.430 –> 00:29:15.390
of them being on the list, but we’ll have to
00:29:15.390 –> 00:29:19.779
see. Well, let’s see where we go and what time
00:29:19.779 –> 00:29:21.279
period we go to next. We’re not going to stay
00:29:21.279 –> 00:29:25.119
in 2003. 96. This is Principal Brickley talking.
00:29:25.380 –> 00:29:27.980
I want to inform you all that I have a fat, saggy
00:29:27.980 –> 00:29:30.279
butt, which I like to scratch every hour on the
00:29:30.279 –> 00:29:32.799
out. Get ready. Into a decade we have not heard
00:29:32.799 –> 00:29:36.940
from yet. The 90s. So let’s go to something completely
00:29:36.940 –> 00:29:42.559
different. 1997 is the year this show drops 10
00:29:42.559 –> 00:29:47.299
spots from its previous. location on our countdown
00:29:47.299 –> 00:29:52.299
15 years ago coming in at 96 this time we’re
00:29:52.299 –> 00:29:54.240
going to go to the wonderful world of disney
00:29:54.240 –> 00:29:58.960
in a series that aired on abc originally this
00:29:58.960 –> 00:30:04.220
would be recess recess the playground politics
00:30:04.220 –> 00:30:09.180
universally loved childhood almost like sitcom
00:30:09.180 –> 00:30:14.099
for kids recess at number 96 mike you reacted
00:30:14.099 –> 00:30:18.059
first so i’ll let you go first i love this show
00:30:18.059 –> 00:30:24.539
this show is so funny uh this is one of those
00:30:24.539 –> 00:30:27.700
shows that i don’t hear a lot of people talking
00:30:27.700 –> 00:30:32.559
like you see fandoms and other things for a lot
00:30:32.559 –> 00:30:35.440
of shows and stuff i don’t see a lot of people
00:30:35.440 –> 00:30:40.490
talking about recess but recess uh basically
00:30:40.490 –> 00:30:43.089
about the lives of six different fourth graders
00:30:43.089 –> 00:30:50.970
uh just very very interesting very cool very
00:30:50.970 –> 00:30:58.309
fun uh and it was just an interesting time to
00:30:58.309 –> 00:31:02.390
to have a show like this because you know when
00:31:02.390 –> 00:31:05.049
we were all kids we were all going out to recess
00:31:05.049 –> 00:31:09.650
and whatever else because for me i was let’s
00:31:09.650 –> 00:31:12.609
see kindergarten to sixth grade i was that was
00:31:12.609 –> 00:31:21.150
85 to 92 so for me in fourth grade recess was
00:31:21.150 –> 00:31:25.710
not as wild as this show is it was wild but it
00:31:25.710 –> 00:31:31.069
wasn’t this wild um but like you you think about
00:31:31.069 –> 00:31:36.589
all the all the ideas in the world in the 90s
00:31:36.589 –> 00:31:42.230
that that that a creator could come up with hey
00:31:42.230 –> 00:31:46.250
let’s do a show about recess and i know it’s
00:31:46.250 –> 00:31:48.210
not on the countdown and that’s more than fine
00:31:48.210 –> 00:31:52.130
same thing with film or film wars on you know
00:31:52.130 –> 00:31:54.569
school safety patrol who in the hell would do
00:31:54.569 –> 00:31:58.769
a cartoon show anyway but it’s you know same
00:31:58.769 –> 00:32:01.950
concept like i love shows like that and this
00:32:01.950 –> 00:32:04.109
is you know recess just absolutely love this
00:32:04.109 –> 00:32:08.000
show wow i can’t believe it went down This is
00:32:08.000 –> 00:32:10.740
the, I mean, as we talked about in the introductory
00:32:10.740 –> 00:32:13.519
episode, like some shows we’re going to have
00:32:13.519 –> 00:32:15.440
to either get bounced from the countdown or go
00:32:15.440 –> 00:32:18.019
down or just how far they would fall. And out
00:32:18.019 –> 00:32:19.619
of all the movement that we’re going to see in
00:32:19.619 –> 00:32:21.819
today’s episode, obviously we’re going to have
00:32:21.819 –> 00:32:24.359
a big chunk of the not ranked before list. We
00:32:24.359 –> 00:32:27.119
said that there was 27 shows that are added this
00:32:27.119 –> 00:32:28.900
time around that weren’t ranked last time. We’re
00:32:28.900 –> 00:32:31.180
going to have just under half of those are going
00:32:31.180 –> 00:32:33.960
to show up in today’s episode. And the shows
00:32:33.960 –> 00:32:37.250
that were ranked last time. Every single one
00:32:37.250 –> 00:32:41.109
of them that we talk about today will have fallen
00:32:41.109 –> 00:32:44.349
down except for two. There’s only two shows that
00:32:44.349 –> 00:32:45.549
we’re going to talk about that we had ranked
00:32:45.549 –> 00:32:47.789
last time that are ranked higher this time. So
00:32:47.789 –> 00:32:50.049
we’ll get to those here in a little bit. The
00:32:50.049 –> 00:32:52.730
craziest thing about recess to me is that it
00:32:52.730 –> 00:32:55.670
took until 1997 for someone to do this. Yeah,
00:32:55.690 –> 00:32:57.750
really? Don’t you think it would have been done
00:32:57.750 –> 00:33:00.109
way earlier? Yeah, it’s like a great concept.
00:33:00.170 –> 00:33:01.609
It’s a great idea. It’s got to be one that it
00:33:01.609 –> 00:33:03.150
came out and people are like, why didn’t we do
00:33:03.150 –> 00:33:05.079
that earlier? Yeah, why didn’t we do that earlier?
00:33:05.720 –> 00:33:08.160
Before Steve goes and gives his thoughts, the
00:33:08.160 –> 00:33:10.599
one thing I will say is, and I’m going to say
00:33:10.599 –> 00:33:12.839
it now so I don’t have to repeat, repeat, repeat
00:33:12.839 –> 00:33:16.880
myself later. Half the shows that we end up revealing
00:33:16.880 –> 00:33:20.460
on our countdown here. I’m going to say this
00:33:20.460 –> 00:33:22.359
now so I don’t have to repeat this in other episodes.
00:33:22.420 –> 00:33:25.359
I guarantee you, as long as they’re on any streaming
00:33:25.359 –> 00:33:27.140
service, they’re probably going to end up on
00:33:27.140 –> 00:33:30.099
ToonCast. Because all the episodes of Recess
00:33:30.099 –> 00:33:33.299
are currently on Disney Plus in the U .S. And
00:33:33.299 –> 00:33:36.000
I guarantee you, I’m going to cover Recess on
00:33:36.000 –> 00:33:40.039
ToonCast at some point this year. We’re just
00:33:40.039 –> 00:33:41.640
trying to create more content for Mike to do.
00:33:41.720 –> 00:33:43.880
So it’s what we do here. Steve, what are your
00:33:43.880 –> 00:33:47.950
thoughts on Recess? I remember watching this
00:33:47.950 –> 00:33:52.170
on the one Saturday morning that Disney used
00:33:52.170 –> 00:33:55.750
to have. And honestly, I really enjoyed it. It
00:33:55.750 –> 00:34:00.109
was fun. It kind of played to that younger kid.
00:34:00.230 –> 00:34:03.509
I mean, I wasn’t that age anymore, but at the
00:34:03.509 –> 00:34:05.890
same time, I could relate and I found it entertaining.
00:34:06.630 –> 00:34:10.409
I didn’t watch it through its entire 65 episode
00:34:10.409 –> 00:34:13.860
run. but I did catch episodes here and there
00:34:13.860 –> 00:34:16.119
when I would watch Saturday morning cartoons,
00:34:16.559 –> 00:34:22.420
uh, cause it would be on like ABC. And I, I found
00:34:22.420 –> 00:34:24.860
that the dynamic between the friends kind of
00:34:24.860 –> 00:34:26.960
interesting, you know, you had all the different
00:34:26.960 –> 00:34:30.840
stereotypes in there. You had the, uh, the crazy,
00:34:30.940 –> 00:34:37.460
uh, security guard teacher, uh, Randall. Yeah.
00:34:37.559 –> 00:34:44.239
Well, not just Randall, the, The lady is my God,
00:34:44.340 –> 00:34:46.260
what was her name? I butcher in the names because
00:34:46.260 –> 00:34:49.820
I don’t remember any of the names. I just I remember
00:34:49.820 –> 00:34:54.340
watching the show and genuinely in a spinster.
00:34:54.500 –> 00:34:58.219
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I remember genuinely enjoying
00:34:58.219 –> 00:35:01.440
it, though. It kind of gave me a different parallel
00:35:01.440 –> 00:35:04.420
to like a Simpsons, but it’s more like more grounded
00:35:04.420 –> 00:35:08.289
in situations you might see. Or like the dynamics
00:35:08.289 –> 00:35:10.909
of the playground. You know, the sixth grader
00:35:10.909 –> 00:35:14.309
is the king of the playground and things like
00:35:14.309 –> 00:35:16.969
that. So it was just, I don’t know, it was kind
00:35:16.969 –> 00:35:19.190
of fresh and different. So it was enough to catch
00:35:19.190 –> 00:35:22.989
my interest at that point. Yeah, I think it’s
00:35:22.989 –> 00:35:25.349
a show that gets a lot of love. It was nominated
00:35:25.349 –> 00:35:29.909
for at least 10 awards that we looked at. So
00:35:29.909 –> 00:35:32.670
it’s got some critical acclaim there as well.
00:35:32.789 –> 00:35:35.960
So we went from anime to anime to anime. And
00:35:35.960 –> 00:35:40.659
then we went from 2003 to 2003. And now we’re
00:35:40.659 –> 00:35:43.519
going to go from Disney to another Disney show.
00:35:46.280 –> 00:35:50.139
95. There aren’t any gummy bears now, but they
00:35:50.139 –> 00:35:52.760
used to exist. Everyone knows that. Everyone
00:35:52.760 –> 00:35:55.219
knows that. Everyone knows they’re just fairy
00:35:55.219 –> 00:36:01.260
tales. All right. Number 95. A Disney show, but
00:36:01.260 –> 00:36:04.809
not from the 90s. And actually, for the second
00:36:04.809 –> 00:36:06.349
time this countdown, we’re going to have a second
00:36:06.349 –> 00:36:09.090
year represented. So we had two 2003 shows, and
00:36:09.090 –> 00:36:10.949
now this is going to be our second show from
00:36:10.949 –> 00:36:14.570
1985. And a lot of people will call this kind
00:36:14.570 –> 00:36:17.969
of a foundational show for Disney, maybe a precursor
00:36:17.969 –> 00:36:21.869
to the Disney afternoon. Our number 95 pick dropped
00:36:21.869 –> 00:36:25.030
18 slots in the last 15 years, but still made
00:36:25.030 –> 00:36:27.090
the countdown. We’re talking about Disney’s Adventures
00:36:27.090 –> 00:36:29.610
of the Gummy Bears, one of the best theme songs.
00:36:30.460 –> 00:36:33.139
ever created for a cartoon if you don’t believe
00:36:33.139 –> 00:36:36.780
me go listen to it it’s just i always have it
00:36:36.780 –> 00:36:39.760
in my top five all -time theme songs but um it’s
00:36:39.760 –> 00:36:42.599
also one of those uh serialized kids storytelling
00:36:42.599 –> 00:36:46.880
shows that existed that was kind of not commonplace
00:36:46.880 –> 00:36:50.300
in the 80s i’m a big fan of this one i had it
00:36:50.300 –> 00:36:53.860
ranked in my 60s on my list um i just think that
00:36:53.860 –> 00:36:57.380
this is from a disney standpoint yes there was
00:36:57.380 –> 00:37:01.250
a Prior to this, but this one was so crucial
00:37:01.250 –> 00:37:04.630
in getting us to everything that Disney did in
00:37:04.630 –> 00:37:07.750
the late 80s, early 90s. So I think it has a
00:37:07.750 –> 00:37:11.050
lot of influential aspects going that you could
00:37:11.050 –> 00:37:13.469
give it some props for and reasons for why it
00:37:13.469 –> 00:37:15.989
should be on the list for that point. From a
00:37:15.989 –> 00:37:19.150
quality standpoint, overall, do you compare it
00:37:19.150 –> 00:37:20.929
to some of the other Disney shows that come later?
00:37:21.050 –> 00:37:23.230
Maybe not, but I think just for its impact and
00:37:23.230 –> 00:37:26.090
influential. aspects that it deserves a spot
00:37:26.090 –> 00:37:27.889
on the list so i’m happy it’s even though it
00:37:27.889 –> 00:37:30.329
dropped 18 spots i’m happy that it stayed here
00:37:30.329 –> 00:37:32.230
mike what do you think of disney’s adventures
00:37:32.230 –> 00:37:35.170
of the gummy bears love this show this show’s
00:37:35.170 –> 00:37:39.130
amazing and because of the last show that we
00:37:39.130 –> 00:37:45.510
just revealed in this show uh miss finster was
00:37:45.510 –> 00:37:50.460
voiced by april winchell Her father plays Zummy
00:37:50.460 –> 00:37:52.960
Gummy. Paul Winchell plays Zummy. Connections
00:37:52.960 –> 00:37:57.840
all over the place. Yep. But no, Adventures of
00:37:57.840 –> 00:38:02.760
the Gummy Bears. Oh, man. Absolutely love, love
00:38:02.760 –> 00:38:08.900
this show. This show was so cool. This is one
00:38:08.900 –> 00:38:13.010
of the cartoon shows that just… Was so original
00:38:13.010 –> 00:38:17.070
that lets you just escape. It was kind of an
00:38:17.070 –> 00:38:20.329
Arthurian legend, but it really wasn’t. It was
00:38:20.329 –> 00:38:22.389
kind of an offshoot of the Arthurian legend.
00:38:22.929 –> 00:38:28.969
And it just lets you, like I said, escape. And
00:38:28.969 –> 00:38:33.690
it was so cool. It was so fun. You know, you
00:38:33.690 –> 00:38:37.769
got June Foray as Grammy Gummy. You got Lorenzo
00:38:37.769 –> 00:38:42.519
Music as Tummy. And such a great voice cast in
00:38:42.519 –> 00:38:46.280
this and the adventures they would go on. The
00:38:46.280 –> 00:38:50.719
ogres fighting them and fighting the Duke and
00:38:50.719 –> 00:38:54.380
saving Princess Kala and all that. Just it’s
00:38:54.380 –> 00:38:57.760
so good. Steve, what do you think of the Adventures
00:38:57.760 –> 00:39:04.860
of the Gummy Bears? I like the theme song. He’s
00:39:04.860 –> 00:39:07.519
never seen it. No, I’ve seen it because I gave
00:39:07.519 –> 00:39:12.159
every show a shot. that went into our 264 pounds,
00:39:12.460 –> 00:39:18.980
I didn’t really care for it. I found, and I get
00:39:18.980 –> 00:39:21.900
it, it’s probably the fact that I wasn’t raised
00:39:21.900 –> 00:39:25.539
on it is why it doesn’t resonate. And I would
00:39:25.539 –> 00:39:27.860
argue that’s probably the same reason why Speed
00:39:27.860 –> 00:39:30.440
Racer didn’t resonate with me. It’s because,
00:39:30.519 –> 00:39:33.579
again, I wasn’t raised with it. It was just something
00:39:33.579 –> 00:39:36.610
I caught. when it was on and i didn’t have the
00:39:36.610 –> 00:39:38.670
disney channel when i was a kid so if it wasn’t
00:39:38.670 –> 00:39:42.369
on abc i didn’t see it until much much later
00:39:42.369 –> 00:39:45.690
so i don’t necessarily have the nostalgia for
00:39:45.690 –> 00:39:49.829
it to enjoy it the way that like you guys do
00:39:49.829 –> 00:39:53.329
so yeah um yeah that’s that’s why for me like
00:39:53.329 –> 00:39:55.110
it’s not as much about the quality of the overall
00:39:55.110 –> 00:39:56.869
show like i think it’s kind of hit or miss with
00:39:56.869 –> 00:40:00.250
some of the things i think for me i i the reason
00:40:00.250 –> 00:40:02.510
i have it on my list is more about the impact
00:40:02.510 –> 00:40:06.260
that it had on on the disney animation vehicle
00:40:06.260 –> 00:40:10.980
i watch this all the time i mean i feel like
00:40:10.980 –> 00:40:12.960
if this isn’t successful we don’t get some of
00:40:12.960 –> 00:40:15.320
the shows that i’m sure will come up later well
00:40:15.320 –> 00:40:18.039
and it was good as far as the animation like
00:40:18.039 –> 00:40:21.280
that there were i mean and that’s something disney’s
00:40:21.280 –> 00:40:24.219
pretty much always been stellar at is like one
00:40:24.219 –> 00:40:26.699
up in their game with the animation some other
00:40:26.699 –> 00:40:30.800
studios had similar situations but like overall
00:40:30.800 –> 00:40:33.139
like disney constantly was one -upping throughout
00:40:33.139 –> 00:40:38.400
the 80s through to the 90s yeah and i mean this
00:40:38.400 –> 00:40:42.380
show it’s the animation it’s the music it’s the
00:40:42.380 –> 00:40:46.420
voice cast it’s also the storytelling the start
00:40:46.420 –> 00:40:51.260
like i don’t remember if it had serialized or
00:40:51.260 –> 00:40:53.380
if they were episodic yeah they were serialized
00:40:53.380 –> 00:40:56.039
was wasn’t most of it serialized because it’s
00:40:56.039 –> 00:40:58.699
been a while since i’ve gone back and watched
00:40:58.699 –> 00:41:01.400
every episode i’ve gone back and watched episodes
00:41:01.400 –> 00:41:04.280
here or there it might not be heavily serialized
00:41:04.280 –> 00:41:06.820
but it is serialized but some of it is okay yeah
00:41:06.820 –> 00:41:13.860
uh but just man like every time i did watch this
00:41:13.860 –> 00:41:16.460
show because i remember having the original dvd
00:41:16.460 –> 00:41:20.500
set when i came out i went nuts i was like stalking
00:41:20.500 –> 00:41:22.719
best buy like when is it coming out when is it
00:41:22.719 –> 00:41:25.420
coming because back then when the dvd set came
00:41:25.420 –> 00:41:28.860
out it was like tv shows on dvd .com which isn’t
00:41:28.860 –> 00:41:31.239
available anymore and everything else and all
00:41:31.239 –> 00:41:33.920
this and all that because i actually i think
00:41:33.920 –> 00:41:36.019
i have a youtube video on my youtube channel
00:41:36.019 –> 00:41:39.820
about getting the dvd set and whatever else just
00:41:39.820 –> 00:41:41.900
absolutely love adventures the gummy bears it’s
00:41:41.900 –> 00:41:44.480
so good this is one of many shows that will come
00:41:44.480 –> 00:41:46.400
up over the curse of this countdown that i own
00:41:46.400 –> 00:41:49.599
uh the complete series of on dvd as well so yeah
00:41:49.599 –> 00:41:53.219
all right so we have seen some anime we’ve seen
00:41:53.219 –> 00:41:56.260
an entrance from lucasfilm with the clone with
00:41:56.510 –> 00:41:59.329
Clone Wars, seen a couple of Disney shows. Let’s
00:41:59.329 –> 00:42:09.849
hear from a new production company next. I say
00:42:09.849 –> 00:42:17.010
new production company, but I guess it’s kind
00:42:17.010 –> 00:42:20.190
of old as well because this one’s from 1961 and
00:42:20.190 –> 00:42:22.969
it’s going to come in at number 94 this time
00:42:22.969 –> 00:42:26.400
around. It was not ranked. in our top 115 years
00:42:26.400 –> 00:42:28.199
ago even though it was definitely eligible since
00:42:28.199 –> 00:42:33.199
it came out in 1961 so it has risen from 166th
00:42:33.199 –> 00:42:38.440
place all the way up to 94th it will be a our
00:42:38.440 –> 00:42:42.360
first entrant from the production company known
00:42:42.360 –> 00:42:47.380
as hannah barbara originally aired on abc we’re
00:42:47.380 –> 00:42:52.239
talking about top cat so the interesting part
00:42:52.670 –> 00:42:55.090
about Top Cat. I was doing some research on this
00:42:55.090 –> 00:42:59.309
in the days and whatnot leading up to this. I
00:42:59.309 –> 00:43:03.230
didn’t realize how popular this show is internationally.
00:43:04.349 –> 00:43:07.429
It’s not as big in the US as it is internationally,
00:43:07.570 –> 00:43:10.630
especially in Latin America. For some reason,
00:43:10.690 –> 00:43:13.369
Top Cat is a big hit there, but obviously one
00:43:13.369 –> 00:43:16.210
of the more well -known characters from Hanna
00:43:16.210 –> 00:43:19.250
-Barbera’s catalog, but it didn’t make our list
00:43:19.250 –> 00:43:21.030
last time. It does this time. Mike, what are
00:43:21.030 –> 00:43:25.289
your thoughts? I forgot it didn’t make the list
00:43:25.289 –> 00:43:30.670
last time. I thought it would have. I love Top
00:43:30.670 –> 00:43:33.849
Cat. I love Benny. I love them all. Hanna -Barbera
00:43:33.849 –> 00:43:35.869
didn’t get as much love as I had anticipated
00:43:35.869 –> 00:43:38.510
last time around. I will say that much. Yeah.
00:43:40.150 –> 00:43:44.030
The adventures of Top Cat, Benny the Ball, Choo
00:43:44.030 –> 00:43:50.070
Choo, Brain, Spook, and all of them. Just so
00:43:50.070 –> 00:43:56.840
good. Top cat was one of the, like, he was one
00:43:56.840 –> 00:43:59.699
of the ultimate schemers. He really, really was
00:43:59.699 –> 00:44:05.300
like, it was so good. Do you think it’s worthy
00:44:05.300 –> 00:44:07.099
of being top 100, even though we did not put
00:44:07.099 –> 00:44:09.699
it on there last time? Oh yeah, absolutely. This
00:44:09.699 –> 00:44:13.360
show is so good. It’s so fun because you, so
00:44:13.360 –> 00:44:18.159
let’s see. Trying to see top cat versus Garfield.
00:44:18.519 –> 00:44:21.559
What’s the comparison. The comparison would be
00:44:21.559 –> 00:44:25.780
Top Cat is trying to get away with schemes away
00:44:25.780 –> 00:44:28.880
from what’s the… I would say Top Cat is way
00:44:28.880 –> 00:44:31.260
more comparable to Heathcliff than it is Garfield.
00:44:31.559 –> 00:44:42.440
Okay, well, Officer Charlie Dibble. But who does
00:44:42.440 –> 00:44:45.280
Heathcliff have? No, I’m just saying Heathcliff
00:44:45.280 –> 00:44:47.920
is like a group of street cats that is trying
00:44:47.920 –> 00:44:50.380
to go around, and that’s kind of what Top Cat
00:44:50.380 –> 00:44:53.519
is, whereas Garfield is just a house cat. Yeah,
00:44:53.579 –> 00:45:00.179
okay, fine. So Heathcliff versus Top Cat. I was
00:45:00.179 –> 00:45:02.639
trying to compare Top Cat to Garfield, where
00:45:02.639 –> 00:45:07.579
Top Cat has Officer Dibble and Garfield has John.
00:45:08.699 –> 00:45:11.219
Garfield’s always trying to get the lasagna kind
00:45:11.219 –> 00:45:14.309
of thing. I see where you’re going with that.
00:45:14.389 –> 00:45:18.530
Yeah. So, you know, Top Cat’s always trying to
00:45:18.530 –> 00:45:20.530
do schemes, and he’s always trying to get this
00:45:20.530 –> 00:45:23.230
and get that and whatever else. And I always
00:45:23.230 –> 00:45:25.650
thought Heathcliff was just trying to do mischief
00:45:25.650 –> 00:45:31.889
just to do mischief. He was. Yeah. Top Cat, you
00:45:31.889 –> 00:45:34.670
know, they always, they were more of a, like,
00:45:34.789 –> 00:45:37.889
honestly, and I know this is really sad, but
00:45:37.889 –> 00:45:41.780
excuse me for being a sheltered white kid. in
00:45:41.780 –> 00:45:46.119
southeast massachusetts in the 80s but top cat’s
00:45:46.119 –> 00:45:50.400
gang was the first gang i ever saw on tv sorry
00:45:50.400 –> 00:45:56.679
uh but like he him and his that that’s why officer
00:45:56.679 –> 00:45:58.980
dibble was always after him you know they’re
00:45:58.980 –> 00:46:01.079
always you know getting schemes i don’t know
00:46:01.079 –> 00:46:05.280
i just i liked top cat he was he was always you
00:46:05.280 –> 00:46:09.900
know that that cat that just always you know
00:46:09.900 –> 00:46:15.679
had to I don’t know. Top Cat did not make my
00:46:15.679 –> 00:46:19.239
list. I respect Top Cat as far as a Hanna -Barbera
00:46:19.239 –> 00:46:22.340
character and a classic cartoon character. I
00:46:22.340 –> 00:46:24.199
just didn’t quite have enough room. I had some
00:46:24.199 –> 00:46:25.940
other Hanna -Barbera shows that I ranked instead.
00:46:26.119 –> 00:46:30.659
But from an influence or kind of pop culture
00:46:30.659 –> 00:46:32.739
standpoint, he has appeared in a lot of stuff.
00:46:32.880 –> 00:46:35.659
So Top Cat and his gang or members of his gang
00:46:35.659 –> 00:46:37.920
appeared in Yogi’s Art Clark, appeared in Yogi’s
00:46:37.920 –> 00:46:40.750
Treasure Hunt. appeared in wake rattle and roll
00:46:40.750 –> 00:46:43.449
harvey birdman attorney at law the powerpuff
00:46:43.449 –> 00:46:46.869
girls foster’s home for imaginary friends futurama
00:46:46.869 –> 00:46:50.829
jellystone teen titans go and how about this
00:46:50.829 –> 00:46:53.289
mike which i guess solidifies my comparison top
00:46:53.289 –> 00:46:56.130
cat and his gang appeared in the march 10th 2016
00:46:56.130 –> 00:47:00.510
strip of heathcliff So there is a crossover,
00:47:00.690 –> 00:47:02.489
I guess, from that standpoint. I didn’t realize
00:47:02.489 –> 00:47:05.389
how popular it was internationally and things
00:47:05.389 –> 00:47:07.389
of that nature. So I had other Hanna -Barbera
00:47:07.389 –> 00:47:09.969
characters on my list, not Top Cap, but I’m not
00:47:09.969 –> 00:47:12.170
saying he’s not necessarily worthy. Steve, what
00:47:12.170 –> 00:47:15.289
do you think? So I actually did not list this
00:47:15.289 –> 00:47:17.250
show on my list. I actually went in favor of
00:47:17.250 –> 00:47:22.449
Heathcliff. And it’s funny because I was kind
00:47:22.449 –> 00:47:25.130
of torn between the two. Like I wanted to list
00:47:25.130 –> 00:47:28.460
them both, but I had other. uh series that i
00:47:28.460 –> 00:47:31.039
was trying to include both old and new and other
00:47:31.039 –> 00:47:33.280
hannah barbarian series that i felt like were
00:47:33.280 –> 00:47:39.780
more enjoyable to watch um and some of them i
00:47:39.780 –> 00:47:42.780
had on my list because i mean it would be like
00:47:42.780 –> 00:47:46.920
sacrilegious to not have them so i had to sacrifice
00:47:46.920 –> 00:47:49.000
somewhere and top cat unfortunately was one of
00:47:49.000 –> 00:47:51.320
them however i did really enjoy this cartoon
00:47:51.320 –> 00:47:54.710
uh yeah For me, it was kind of neck and neck
00:47:54.710 –> 00:47:59.050
between Top Cat and Heathcliff. Top Cat was more.
00:48:01.050 –> 00:48:04.510
You’re smooth talking kind of almost had like
00:48:04.510 –> 00:48:08.650
an urban sitcom. Yeah, I mean, he had all these
00:48:08.650 –> 00:48:10.570
different scams and all these other things, but
00:48:10.570 –> 00:48:16.030
it was more like he was. It was very sitcom ish,
00:48:16.030 –> 00:48:22.750
but he also had. like this this different presence
00:48:22.750 –> 00:48:25.070
with himself like he wasn’t trying to get into
00:48:25.070 –> 00:48:28.849
trouble but he was trying to make you know trying
00:48:28.849 –> 00:48:31.710
to get into trouble yeah he’s trying to make
00:48:31.710 –> 00:48:34.210
trouble yeah yeah whereas heathcliff is like
00:48:34.210 –> 00:48:38.849
everything he’s doing is trouble you know it
00:48:38.849 –> 00:48:42.070
was like taking garfield but mixing him with
00:48:42.070 –> 00:48:45.119
top cat and you get heathcliff Yeah, I think
00:48:45.119 –> 00:48:46.860
their two characters are different. I think where
00:48:46.860 –> 00:48:49.500
I see the similarities is the Cadillac Cats that
00:48:49.500 –> 00:48:51.780
followed Heathcliff compared to Top Cat’s gang.
00:48:52.360 –> 00:48:54.880
Correct. Is like kind of the similarity. And
00:48:54.880 –> 00:48:57.679
I feel like that’s where Heathcliff got better
00:48:57.679 –> 00:49:01.679
was with the Cadillac Cats. Yes. And I feel like
00:49:01.679 –> 00:49:04.159
Top Cat, you know, his his gang. I mean, it very
00:49:04.159 –> 00:49:07.199
much looks like a Hanna -Barbera show. Like you’ve
00:49:07.199 –> 00:49:09.780
got a lot of Flintstones cues right in there
00:49:09.780 –> 00:49:11.559
and Jetsons cues like right in the animation
00:49:11.559 –> 00:49:14.780
style, which is not a bad thing. It just. It
00:49:14.780 –> 00:49:19.099
makes it, I think, more familiar and more readily
00:49:19.099 –> 00:49:22.480
to be accepted because it shares a similar style
00:49:22.480 –> 00:49:25.119
to those two series. And so therefore, I feel
00:49:25.119 –> 00:49:28.340
like it got adopted better. Steve, I have one
00:49:28.340 –> 00:49:31.019
other question somewhat unrelated to Top Cat
00:49:31.019 –> 00:49:33.059
itself, but kind of more about our list overall.
00:49:33.539 –> 00:49:37.320
So we had Speed Racer, which is a 1967 show that
00:49:37.320 –> 00:49:41.869
rose from 349th to 100th. We had Top Cat that
00:49:41.869 –> 00:49:45.989
rose from 166th to 94th. That was from 1961.
00:49:47.150 –> 00:49:50.469
Does this speak to a theme that we will see throughout
00:49:50.469 –> 00:49:54.489
the rest of the countdown on our wider range
00:49:54.489 –> 00:49:57.989
of age demographics that are included in our
00:49:57.989 –> 00:50:00.289
contributors? Or do you think it’s just a few
00:50:00.289 –> 00:50:02.030
shows like that that just got more love over
00:50:02.030 –> 00:50:06.429
time? I think it’s both. I think a lot of it
00:50:06.429 –> 00:50:10.539
is like we’ve got… a different age range a
00:50:10.539 –> 00:50:12.619
lot of us have gotten older and seen a lot more
00:50:12.619 –> 00:50:17.300
stuff and then you know those of us that you
00:50:17.300 –> 00:50:19.460
know have kids have introduced them to some of
00:50:19.460 –> 00:50:22.739
these series and so i mean i feel like there’s
00:50:22.739 –> 00:50:24.679
that i feel like there’s age too that’s kind
00:50:24.679 –> 00:50:29.659
of hit some of us and uh it made us enjoy things
00:50:29.659 –> 00:50:32.880
differently than we once did and so giving shows
00:50:32.880 –> 00:50:34.800
a shot that may not have had it the first time
00:50:34.800 –> 00:50:40.739
around so i’m I’m pleasantly surprised to see
00:50:40.739 –> 00:50:43.480
that shows that didn’t make it the first time
00:50:43.480 –> 00:50:46.739
around are making it or making it into the top
00:50:46.739 –> 00:50:50.039
100 to begin with. But then again, we’ve had
00:50:50.039 –> 00:50:55.500
other shows that missed it by that much and were
00:50:55.500 –> 00:51:00.480
on the original list. And so Neon Genesis Evangelion
00:51:00.480 –> 00:51:04.300
was 99 in the old list. It’s 107 this time. magic
00:51:04.300 –> 00:51:06.860
school bus was 89 last time it’s 102 this time
00:51:06.860 –> 00:51:09.320
so like some of them have flip -flopped and it’s
00:51:09.320 –> 00:51:12.139
not just been a minor flip -flop like those have
00:51:12.139 –> 00:51:14.840
been a minor flip -flop i mean with top cat and
00:51:14.840 –> 00:51:17.260
speed racer specifically it was a huge flip -flop
00:51:17.260 –> 00:51:19.760
yeah yeah we’ll have to kind of track that as
00:51:19.760 –> 00:51:22.239
we go to to see if that trend continues with
00:51:22.239 –> 00:51:23.719
some of the older shows or if it’s just kind
00:51:23.719 –> 00:51:26.340
of random shows across the block that have just
00:51:26.340 –> 00:51:29.760
uh maybe aged more gracefully i guess over the
00:51:29.760 –> 00:51:33.679
last 15 years so We’re international flavor a
00:51:33.679 –> 00:51:35.059
little bit with Top Cat with its popularity.
00:51:35.260 –> 00:51:38.739
Let’s go to one that was literally produced internationally.
00:51:39.599 –> 00:51:42.320
93. Where can we get a rasher of bacon five yards
00:51:42.320 –> 00:51:50.260
long? The ferocious Tibetan butter. Oh, no. All
00:51:50.260 –> 00:51:54.579
right. For our number 93, for us in the U .S.,
00:51:54.579 –> 00:51:57.780
we first saw this show on, first time I’ve mentioned
00:51:57.780 –> 00:52:01.039
this on today’s countdown, on Nickelodeon. is
00:52:01.039 –> 00:52:04.679
where we first saw this back in 1981, and I am
00:52:04.679 –> 00:52:07.760
ecstatic that this show has remained on the countdown.
00:52:08.219 –> 00:52:15.039
It dropped from number 69 to 93, and it was in
00:52:15.039 –> 00:52:16.719
danger, I guess, of falling out of the countdown
00:52:16.719 –> 00:52:19.360
completely, and I’m so happy that it didn’t because
00:52:19.360 –> 00:52:22.480
I think this one is criminally underrated because
00:52:22.480 –> 00:52:28.630
most of it is super popular more in the UK. I
00:52:28.630 –> 00:52:30.530
think it’s probably one of the top five, top
00:52:30.530 –> 00:52:33.170
10 shows in the UK all time, and it doesn’t get
00:52:33.170 –> 00:52:36.130
that same attention here in the US. So I’m ecstatic
00:52:36.130 –> 00:52:38.849
that Danger Mouse has come in here at number
00:52:38.849 –> 00:52:42.690
93 from Cosgrove Hall. Like I said, it came over
00:52:42.690 –> 00:52:45.929
to us on Nickelodeon, and I think it deserves
00:52:45.929 –> 00:52:49.389
all the love. So Danger Mouse, number 93. Mike,
00:52:49.489 –> 00:52:50.909
you thought it was something else, but it’s Danger
00:52:50.909 –> 00:52:53.929
Mouse. Yeah, for a minute there, I was getting
00:52:53.929 –> 00:52:56.769
scared. I’m like, oh my God, if he mentions that
00:52:56.769 –> 00:53:00.360
one that I hate. I said 1981, so that should
00:53:00.360 –> 00:53:03.300
have been a clue for you. Yeah, I know. But I
00:53:03.300 –> 00:53:06.460
forgot when that other evil thing came out. Thank
00:53:06.460 –> 00:53:09.719
God. Yeah, Danger Mouse. Absolutely. Best show
00:53:09.719 –> 00:53:13.619
ever. Mike just went straight to best show ever.
00:53:13.679 –> 00:53:15.059
I guess we can close up the countdown, Steve.
00:53:15.199 –> 00:53:17.599
We don’t need to do any more of this. He’s already
00:53:17.599 –> 00:53:20.719
crowned it top show ever. Well, no, I said best
00:53:20.719 –> 00:53:23.780
show ever. No, I absolutely love Danger Mouse.
00:53:23.880 –> 00:53:26.440
I grew up watching Danger Mouse. It was so cool.
00:53:26.519 –> 00:53:30.239
It was so fun. Absolutely love that. I think
00:53:30.239 –> 00:53:31.659
it would have been easy for this one to slip
00:53:31.659 –> 00:53:34.099
out since we didn’t have a big UK conglomerate
00:53:34.099 –> 00:53:37.000
and our contributors. So that’s why I’m happy
00:53:37.000 –> 00:53:40.980
that it remained. It was on 14 lists. It was
00:53:40.980 –> 00:53:42.699
out of the I haven’t mentioned this yet today,
00:53:42.780 –> 00:53:44.670
but we. We talked about different lists that
00:53:44.670 –> 00:53:46.269
we looked at as we were trying to come up with
00:53:46.269 –> 00:53:48.409
our nominees, right? Like we had our own list.
00:53:48.550 –> 00:53:50.449
We had our own thoughts. We did a lot of pressure
00:53:50.449 –> 00:53:52.650
tests. We also looked at a variety of lists just
00:53:52.650 –> 00:53:54.090
to see if we had missed anything. And I looked
00:53:54.090 –> 00:53:57.269
at the original PCAST radio list. We looked at
00:53:57.269 –> 00:54:00.309
the IGN list. We looked at a list from Wizard,
00:54:00.570 –> 00:54:02.750
from TV Guide, from Digital Dream Door, Channel
00:54:02.750 –> 00:54:04.949
4, IndieWire, Ranker, and a couple other ones.
00:54:05.329 –> 00:54:09.409
And this show actually appeared on five of those
00:54:09.409 –> 00:54:11.409
lists, which is more than any show we’ve talked
00:54:11.409 –> 00:54:13.960
about so far today. So it does have some universal
00:54:13.960 –> 00:54:16.480
praise when it comes into the more critic circles,
00:54:16.699 –> 00:54:19.559
but I feel like the majority of audiences may
00:54:19.559 –> 00:54:22.440
not have been exposed to Danger Mouse because
00:54:22.440 –> 00:54:25.059
of when it came out and because of it not being
00:54:25.059 –> 00:54:29.280
a U .S. cartoon. And if you didn’t have Nickelodeon,
00:54:29.340 –> 00:54:31.559
maybe you didn’t have a way to watch it. But
00:54:31.559 –> 00:54:34.719
like I said, it flung to its spot within our
00:54:34.719 –> 00:54:36.739
top 100, and that makes me happy. Steve, have
00:54:36.739 –> 00:54:39.980
you had any exposure to Danger Mouse? Yeah, actually.
00:54:41.280 –> 00:54:45.280
And no, I’m not talking about the new one. I
00:54:45.280 –> 00:54:47.599
have seen bits and pieces of the new one, but
00:54:47.599 –> 00:54:53.159
no. The old one, it had its own particular charm
00:54:53.159 –> 00:54:58.800
to it. I love the song, the theme. I think I
00:54:58.800 –> 00:55:02.059
love theme songs for old animated shows just
00:55:02.059 –> 00:55:06.360
because nowadays we don’t get that kind of awesomeness.
00:55:06.599 –> 00:55:13.599
The 80s and 90s were, quite frankly, Cartoon
00:55:13.599 –> 00:55:16.840
theme heaven. Yeah. Yeah. I couldn’t think of
00:55:16.840 –> 00:55:21.780
the right word, but that that fits. So. I think
00:55:21.780 –> 00:55:23.460
that this is really cool. This kind of fits along
00:55:23.460 –> 00:55:25.579
with like your secret squirrel. A lot of the
00:55:25.579 –> 00:55:27.320
other type of shows that they kind of fit into
00:55:27.320 –> 00:55:34.179
this realm. This one did also create a. Follow
00:55:34.179 –> 00:55:37.079
up or spinoff series and, you know, Count Ducula.
00:55:37.460 –> 00:55:39.920
Yeah. Which was interesting on its own right,
00:55:39.960 –> 00:55:43.230
too. I don’t remember what year the reboot came
00:55:43.230 –> 00:55:48.130
out. It was within the last 10 years or so. It
00:55:48.130 –> 00:55:53.269
was Boulder Media that did some of it. It’s been
00:55:53.269 –> 00:55:58.610
passed around. They did it from 2015 to 2019.
00:56:00.289 –> 00:56:02.150
I think I’ve seen bits and pieces of the new
00:56:02.150 –> 00:56:03.989
one as well, but not as much to make a judgment
00:56:03.989 –> 00:56:07.989
on it. I’m not always huge on all British humor.
00:56:08.429 –> 00:56:11.889
But the British humor in this specific cartoon,
00:56:12.070 –> 00:56:14.449
similar to Count Ducula, just really worked for
00:56:14.449 –> 00:56:18.090
me. And it kind of feels like a cartoon, almost
00:56:18.090 –> 00:56:23.010
like Spy vs. Spy or 007 type thing. Yeah, and
00:56:23.010 –> 00:56:26.329
it definitely reminds you of the type of… Obviously,
00:56:26.329 –> 00:56:29.710
Nickelodeon in our time period was more well
00:56:29.710 –> 00:56:31.929
-known for game shows and more well -known for
00:56:31.929 –> 00:56:35.170
probably its live action in the early days. I
00:56:35.170 –> 00:56:37.539
know they did more… cartoons later on but like
00:56:37.539 –> 00:56:39.800
in the beginning it was much more about you know
00:56:39.800 –> 00:56:43.860
snick and and game shows and things of that nature
00:56:43.860 –> 00:56:46.000
there wasn’t a ton of cartoon stuff but this
00:56:46.000 –> 00:56:50.039
is very like symbolic of the type of animation
00:56:50.039 –> 00:56:55.260
that existed they they like to do some more non
00:56:55.260 –> 00:56:57.920
-traditional a little bit more off the beaten
00:56:57.920 –> 00:57:00.460
path animation and some of their even some of
00:57:00.460 –> 00:57:02.159
their other shows so this fit right in with like
00:57:02.159 –> 00:57:06.659
early nickelodeon to me Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
00:57:06.980 –> 00:57:09.039
I don’t know how much of a player Nickelodeon
00:57:09.039 –> 00:57:10.719
will be on this countdown. It’ll have to be something
00:57:10.719 –> 00:57:13.440
we track. Like I said, I may not be the first
00:57:13.440 –> 00:57:15.000
place you think of when you think of animated
00:57:15.000 –> 00:57:16.800
series, but we’ll have to see how many entrants
00:57:16.800 –> 00:57:19.679
come from the world of Nickelodeon over the course
00:57:19.679 –> 00:57:24.380
of this countdown. Yep. Right. So we were at
00:57:24.380 –> 00:57:26.940
Hanna -Barbera a second ago. Let’s go back there
00:57:26.940 –> 00:57:31.630
next. 92. Their mission to fight injustice, to
00:57:31.630 –> 00:57:34.889
right that which is wrong, and to serve all mankind.
00:57:36.690 –> 00:57:41.070
All right, for our number 92, we go back to Hanna
00:57:41.070 –> 00:57:43.090
-Barbera and another show that originally debuted
00:57:43.090 –> 00:57:47.730
on ABC. This one has dropped more than any show
00:57:47.730 –> 00:57:51.349
that we have talked about today. It was ranked
00:57:51.349 –> 00:57:56.889
40 last time. It falls to 92. this time so a
00:57:56.889 –> 00:58:01.170
drop of 52 places for the conglomerate known
00:58:01.170 –> 00:58:05.469
as super friends which debuted in the 70s so
00:58:05.469 –> 00:58:07.750
we had this 40 in our top 50 last time at number
00:58:07.750 –> 00:58:10.570
40 it drops all the way down to 92 i know in
00:58:10.570 –> 00:58:13.210
the nominee episodes we talked about this one
00:58:13.210 –> 00:58:16.670
specifically and if it was one that we had kind
00:58:16.670 –> 00:58:19.349
of targeted that could potentially fall all the
00:58:19.349 –> 00:58:22.250
way out of our top 100 it did not quite do that
00:58:22.250 –> 00:58:25.210
it made it to 92 start with you this time steve
00:58:25.519 –> 00:58:27.719
What do you think of Super Friends coming in
00:58:27.719 –> 00:58:31.000
here? Obviously, another one that, similar to
00:58:31.000 –> 00:58:34.760
Speed Racer, is it more important, culturally
00:58:34.760 –> 00:58:38.179
impactful, or influential to the genre versus
00:58:38.179 –> 00:58:41.059
good quality? Kind of like we talked about with
00:58:41.059 –> 00:58:43.139
Speed Racer, or where do you kind of land with
00:58:43.139 –> 00:58:47.000
Super Friends? I’m kind of torn because a lot
00:58:47.000 –> 00:58:52.219
of these old animated series were pretty hokey.
00:58:52.519 –> 00:58:57.190
I don’t know. it’s it’s to me it’s almost like
00:58:57.190 –> 00:58:59.949
it’s better than like Star Trek the animated
00:58:59.949 –> 00:59:04.690
series but it’s not great compared to what we
00:59:04.690 –> 00:59:06.650
got in the 90s I feel like we got spoiled in
00:59:06.650 –> 00:59:09.969
the 90s like we got quality like good writing
00:59:09.969 –> 00:59:13.110
good voice acting good animation like just all
00:59:13.110 –> 00:59:16.530
the way around it was good this I mean it works
00:59:16.530 –> 00:59:19.449
for the time but I don’t know if it necessarily
00:59:19.449 –> 00:59:22.329
translates to now to anything anybody’s gonna
00:59:22.329 –> 00:59:25.550
watch outside of us that kind of grew up with
00:59:25.550 –> 00:59:30.250
it or saw it on rerun somewhere or you know have
00:59:30.250 –> 00:59:32.070
the nostalgia for it I don’t I don’t see this
00:59:32.070 –> 00:59:35.349
one having the longevity of it so I can definitely
00:59:35.349 –> 00:59:39.510
see why it jumped this high in the list like
00:59:39.510 –> 00:59:41.929
I personally did not rank this one this time
00:59:41.929 –> 00:59:44.670
I don’t remember what I ranked last time but
00:59:44.670 –> 00:59:48.469
I I’m I’m pretty sure that I didn’t rank it either
00:59:48.469 –> 00:59:52.530
at that point so I’ve actually recently watched
00:59:52.530 –> 00:59:55.559
all I haven’t watched the obviously this had
00:59:55.559 –> 00:59:57.280
some like different titles for different seasons
00:59:57.280 –> 00:59:59.920
so can i run down those really quick since i’m
00:59:59.920 –> 01:00:01.940
i’m looking right at him if you must if you must
01:00:01.940 –> 01:00:06.500
all right so 1973 we had super friends in 77
01:00:06.500 –> 01:00:09.460
we had the all -new super friends hour in 78
01:00:09.460 –> 01:00:13.059
we had challenge of the super friends in 79 the
01:00:13.059 –> 01:00:16.760
world’s greatest super friends in 80 to 83 super
01:00:16.760 –> 01:00:22.070
friends And then in 84, Super Friends, the Legendary
01:00:22.070 –> 01:00:25.150
Superpowers Show. And then 85, the Galactic Guardians
01:00:25.150 –> 01:00:30.309
Superpowers Team. So those are everything under
01:00:30.309 –> 01:00:32.809
the banner. I have recently watched, in the last
01:00:32.809 –> 01:00:35.610
two years, I’ve watched all of the 80s episodes
01:00:35.610 –> 01:00:38.110
that appeared in all the different incarnations.
01:00:38.110 –> 01:00:41.530
So I’ve seen everything that aired in 1980 through
01:00:41.530 –> 01:00:44.429
the end of the run for this show. And there is
01:00:44.429 –> 01:00:47.010
some that is much better than others. I will
01:00:47.010 –> 01:00:49.579
get that. Like not all of it holds up to the
01:00:49.579 –> 01:00:51.800
same quality. And there’s definitely some seasons,
01:00:51.920 –> 01:00:54.340
quote unquote, that are better substantially
01:00:54.340 –> 01:00:58.139
than others. I think the reason I still kept
01:00:58.139 –> 01:01:01.019
this on mine, I had this ranked number 86, I
01:01:01.019 –> 01:01:02.900
believe, or somewhere in there. So I don’t think
01:01:02.900 –> 01:01:04.679
it belonged in the top 50 like we had it last
01:01:04.679 –> 01:01:07.539
time, but I still gave it a vote. And I think
01:01:07.539 –> 01:01:12.300
more so because this introduced DC heroes to
01:01:12.300 –> 01:01:16.610
like an entire couple generations of. like mass
01:01:16.610 –> 01:01:21.190
audiences and so to me how many people that watched
01:01:21.190 –> 01:01:25.849
a version of super friends then grew up to be
01:01:25.849 –> 01:01:31.530
involved in the dc universe whether it be in
01:01:31.530 –> 01:01:34.369
comic form or whether it be the sub -subsequential
01:01:34.369 –> 01:01:38.300
like series that we get like I feel like, you
01:01:38.300 –> 01:01:39.719
know, a lot of them had to have watched that.
01:01:39.760 –> 01:01:41.460
Maybe that was their introduction from an animation
01:01:41.460 –> 01:01:44.039
standpoint. And then we go on to get stuff like
01:01:44.039 –> 01:01:45.719
Batman, the animated series, Superman, the animated
01:01:45.719 –> 01:01:48.039
series, et cetera, et cetera. So like, I can’t
01:01:48.039 –> 01:01:52.139
downplay like that it adds some impact, but I
01:01:52.139 –> 01:01:54.880
do see the argument similar to speed racer that
01:01:54.880 –> 01:01:59.099
do you weigh impact or influence over overall
01:01:59.099 –> 01:02:01.219
quality? And like, where do you fall on that
01:02:01.219 –> 01:02:03.579
debate? So I can see both sides. So Mike, what
01:02:03.579 –> 01:02:07.019
do you think? Well, here’s the thing. A lot of
01:02:07.019 –> 01:02:11.099
people that, like Bruce Timm and Paul Dini and
01:02:11.099 –> 01:02:13.780
a lot of those guys that went on to create Batman
01:02:13.780 –> 01:02:17.219
the Animated Series and the entirety of the DCAU
01:02:17.219 –> 01:02:21.420
cartoons that we got in the 90s, they grew up
01:02:21.420 –> 01:02:25.340
on Super Friends, the first one in 1973. And
01:02:25.340 –> 01:02:30.480
in that voice cast, you have two of the very
01:02:30.480 –> 01:02:34.840
most important people. which are Olan Sol, who
01:02:34.840 –> 01:02:38.980
voices Batman, and Casey Kasem, who voices Robin.
01:02:40.039 –> 01:02:44.260
Now, say what you will about Casey Kasem voicing
01:02:44.260 –> 01:02:46.940
Robin. It is what it is, but that’s what happened.
01:02:47.260 –> 01:02:55.199
You have Ted Knight as the narrator. You’ve got
01:02:55.199 –> 01:02:57.679
John Stevenson as Colonel Wilcox. I’m looking
01:02:57.679 –> 01:03:00.500
for… frank welker’s in here as marvin white
01:03:00.500 –> 01:03:03.579
aka and also wonder dog i was trying to see where
01:03:03.579 –> 01:03:07.460
superman was unless it’s listed as a plastic
01:03:07.460 –> 01:03:13.340
man but like yeah you’ve got this specific the
01:03:13.340 –> 01:03:17.900
original 1973 version that probably affected
01:03:17.900 –> 01:03:22.980
a lot of people that went on to create comic
01:03:22.980 –> 01:03:27.380
books and create other things and i don’t No,
01:03:27.380 –> 01:03:30.340
like I remember watching the challenge, the 1978
01:03:30.340 –> 01:03:33.579
version challenge of the super friends. I don’t
01:03:33.579 –> 01:03:37.519
remember watching the other versions. I don’t
01:03:37.519 –> 01:03:40.420
remember any of the other versions other than
01:03:40.420 –> 01:03:44.260
those two, the 73 version and the 78 version.
01:03:44.860 –> 01:03:47.159
I don’t remember the later versions do a little
01:03:47.159 –> 01:03:48.659
bit more of the team up stuff. They introduced
01:03:48.659 –> 01:03:51.059
some different characters. So like you go from
01:03:51.059 –> 01:03:54.139
the wonder twins to like, there’s some. Yeah,
01:03:54.179 –> 01:03:56.539
I remember the Wonder Twins and stuff, but I
01:03:56.539 –> 01:03:58.960
don’t remember. Firestorm comes in in the 80s.
01:03:59.239 –> 01:04:03.900
I just don’t remember the names of the shows
01:04:03.900 –> 01:04:06.659
is what I’m saying. I remember some of the events
01:04:06.659 –> 01:04:10.019
of it, and I liked it for what it was when I
01:04:10.019 –> 01:04:17.559
was a kid, but I don’t know. You guys know how
01:04:17.559 –> 01:04:23.789
I am for the most part. Unfortunately. Sad. sad
01:04:23.789 –> 01:04:27.769
but i’m the type of person that i like i just
01:04:27.769 –> 01:04:30.130
mentioned earlier i will look at something and
01:04:30.130 –> 01:04:33.030
be like oh i now need to do a whole podcast series
01:04:33.030 –> 01:04:37.570
on this you know i’ve there is a episode by episode
01:04:37.570 –> 01:04:39.710
review of everyone in the 80s already on geekcast
01:04:39.710 –> 01:04:43.309
radio network no there isn’t yes there is i’ve
01:04:43.309 –> 01:04:45.050
already done a written review of every episode
01:04:45.050 –> 01:04:47.309
that aired in the 80s okay there’s a written
01:04:47.309 –> 01:04:49.670
review but there isn’t a podcast but you know
01:04:49.670 –> 01:04:52.679
what i’m saying like for me i i I don’t just
01:04:52.679 –> 01:04:55.219
watch things to watch them anymore. That’s my
01:04:55.219 –> 01:04:59.599
point. I watch things and then podcast about
01:04:59.599 –> 01:05:03.920
them. Right. So I don’t know if I could bring
01:05:03.920 –> 01:05:07.400
myself to do an episode by episode review of
01:05:07.400 –> 01:05:10.940
super friends or challenge of the super friends.
01:05:10.980 –> 01:05:15.679
Yeah. I might be able to do like a season or
01:05:15.679 –> 01:05:19.269
two. Maybe. yeah a lot of them were made up of
01:05:19.269 –> 01:05:20.969
very small segments so a lot of times you had
01:05:20.969 –> 01:05:23.329
like a seven or a ten minute like mini story
01:05:23.329 –> 01:05:25.590
and they had a couple of them per thing but yeah
01:05:25.590 –> 01:05:29.170
for sure so this did appear on five of the nine
01:05:29.170 –> 01:05:31.510
lists that we looked at as well so just like
01:05:31.510 –> 01:05:33.570
danger mouse it had some presence amongst the
01:05:33.570 –> 01:05:36.050
other lists so seems like some critical acclaim
01:05:36.050 –> 01:05:38.329
and universal love for for super friends i think
01:05:38.329 –> 01:05:40.570
the debate goes is historical impact more important
01:05:40.570 –> 01:05:43.409
than overall quality yes or no i don’t know so
01:05:44.059 –> 01:05:47.719
it’s a product of its time and it is a nice like
01:05:47.719 –> 01:05:51.119
it’s a nice thing to look at like oh my god i
01:05:51.119 –> 01:05:53.800
haven’t seen this in forever let me again it’s
01:05:53.800 –> 01:05:56.760
for me it’s one of those things oh i’m going
01:05:56.760 –> 01:05:59.260
to look at one or two or three like you said
01:05:59.260 –> 01:06:02.139
it’s made up of segments insert uh in the episode
01:06:02.139 –> 01:06:04.880
so hey let me watch a couple of segments of this
01:06:04.880 –> 01:06:08.880
to remind myself how cool this was at the time
01:06:08.880 –> 01:06:11.239
when i was a child like i remember watching this
01:06:11.239 –> 01:06:13.969
when i was five six and seven years old So it’s
01:06:13.969 –> 01:06:16.449
one of those things. It’s a product of its time.
01:06:17.329 –> 01:06:19.429
Absolutely. All right, before Mike finishes his
01:06:19.429 –> 01:06:21.710
dissertation, we’re going to make a move back
01:06:21.710 –> 01:06:26.530
to Nickelodeon for our next one. I’d have to
01:06:26.530 –> 01:06:29.909
take this opportunity to say, filthy earth creatures!
01:06:30.150 –> 01:06:33.250
It is clear who the superior species is! Isn’t
01:06:33.250 –> 01:06:39.199
it? Isn’t it? You stink! We are back to the world
01:06:39.199 –> 01:06:41.099
of Nickelodeon, but we’re going to jump in time.
01:06:41.280 –> 01:06:44.559
So we were at 1981 for Danger Mouse. For number
01:06:44.559 –> 01:06:46.840
91, we’re going to go all the way up to the year
01:06:46.840 –> 01:06:49.000
2001. I’m just trying to throw a lot of ones
01:06:49.000 –> 01:06:51.900
at y ‘all. This one was not ranked in our original
01:06:51.900 –> 01:06:56.739
list. It was 173rd, and now it makes it to 91st.
01:06:57.380 –> 01:07:01.019
From Nickelodeon, we are talking about Invader
01:07:01.019 –> 01:07:06.679
Zim. So Invader Zim. I do not have a ton of experience
01:07:06.679 –> 01:07:09.360
with this. I know it has a kind of a rabid fan
01:07:09.360 –> 01:07:14.019
base, kind of a cult following that got boosted
01:07:14.019 –> 01:07:16.679
because it got somewhat of a premature cancellation,
01:07:16.780 –> 01:07:19.239
I think, in a lot of people’s eyes. It has a
01:07:19.239 –> 01:07:21.900
little bit more of a dark, unique tone compared
01:07:21.900 –> 01:07:24.780
to some other stuff that we had gotten before
01:07:24.780 –> 01:07:27.860
that. I did not have this one ranked personally.
01:07:28.460 –> 01:07:31.559
Steve, any thoughts on Invader Zim? I didn’t
01:07:31.559 –> 01:07:35.320
personally have this one listed either. We all
01:07:35.320 –> 01:07:39.139
suck. Well, it did have an 8 .4 out of 10 on
01:07:39.139 –> 01:07:43.599
IMDb, 94 % like the show and then 100 % on Rotten
01:07:43.599 –> 01:07:46.019
Tomatoes. So obviously there’s something there.
01:07:46.179 –> 01:07:51.820
Yeah, I don’t love the concept of it. Like, I
01:07:51.820 –> 01:07:53.579
don’t love the animation either. And so this
01:07:53.579 –> 01:07:59.130
is again, like I mentioned in the. in the premiere
01:07:59.130 –> 01:08:02.570
episodes where we were kind of showing what we
01:08:02.570 –> 01:08:05.809
kind of garnered towards. It’s a Nickelodeon
01:08:05.809 –> 01:08:09.449
show. I don’t have a love for a lot of those.
01:08:09.650 –> 01:08:13.050
Now, it does have Richard Stephen Horvitz, who
01:08:13.050 –> 01:08:18.430
played like Alpha 5. Yep. In Power Rangers. He
01:08:18.430 –> 01:08:20.590
also was in like Billy and Mandy. He was in,
01:08:20.649 –> 01:08:23.350
you know, the Shrek movie, Angry Beavers, you
01:08:23.350 –> 01:08:25.470
know, a lot of other stuff that people would
01:08:25.470 –> 01:08:28.779
know him for. And then you get Wally Wingard,
01:08:28.939 –> 01:08:31.800
you get a bunch of different other people. I
01:08:31.800 –> 01:08:42.779
feel like it’s a bit annoying, but yeah. You’ll
01:08:42.779 –> 01:08:45.500
have to let us know in the comments on this episode
01:08:45.500 –> 01:08:49.359
post of what your defense for Invader Zim is.
01:08:49.460 –> 01:08:52.140
Do you guys think it’s worthy, not worthy? If
01:08:52.140 –> 01:08:55.039
so, where should it fall? I understand the cult
01:08:55.039 –> 01:08:57.220
following. I just don’t have the experience.
01:08:57.340 –> 01:08:59.060
We tried to do our homework on a lot of these
01:08:59.060 –> 01:09:01.239
and watched five episodes or eight episodes of
01:09:01.239 –> 01:09:03.520
different things. This is not one that I made
01:09:03.520 –> 01:09:05.460
my way to. I just had too many other stuff I
01:09:05.460 –> 01:09:06.899
was trying to catch up with, and it fell through
01:09:06.899 –> 01:09:09.920
the cracks. So I wasn’t able to do my homework,
01:09:10.060 –> 01:09:11.760
but it did appear on four of the nine lists we
01:09:11.760 –> 01:09:13.380
talked about. Mike, final thoughts on Invader
01:09:13.380 –> 01:09:17.100
Zim? Yeah, same here. No homework for me. I had
01:09:17.100 –> 01:09:20.520
too much other homework I had to do. So another
01:09:20.520 –> 01:09:23.159
Nickelodeon show makes the countdown. That’s
01:09:23.159 –> 01:09:25.020
the end of the first 10 that we’ve revealed.
01:09:25.140 –> 01:09:27.390
Let’s see what we… do where we go when we start
01:09:27.390 –> 01:09:34.270
here with the next one 90 hey paisanos next up
01:09:34.270 –> 01:09:37.210
on the countdown we’re into our top 90 now this
01:09:37.210 –> 01:09:41.029
was a cartoon that appeared on our list last
01:09:41.029 –> 01:09:43.909
time but it has fallen 23 spots from its previous
01:09:43.909 –> 01:09:50.670
placements from saban and deke this is a syndicated
01:09:50.670 –> 01:09:56.340
show that’s debuted in 1989 We’re talking, it’s
01:09:56.340 –> 01:09:59.079
our second, no, our first 1989 show, our third
01:09:59.079 –> 01:10:01.840
or fourth 1980 show overall. We’re talking about
01:10:01.840 –> 01:10:05.800
the Super Mario Brothers Super Show. Ah, the
01:10:05.800 –> 01:10:10.279
Super Show. It fell from 67 to 90. Didn’t quite
01:10:10.279 –> 01:10:11.939
fall out of the countdown. Mike, what do you
01:10:11.939 –> 01:10:15.600
think of this one? I love it. Obviously, this
01:10:15.600 –> 01:10:18.140
has that hybrid format, which has part cartoons,
01:10:18.300 –> 01:10:20.300
some little live action wraparounds and introductions,
01:10:20.359 –> 01:10:22.949
which was… somewhat unique so i guess it kind
01:10:22.949 –> 01:10:25.010
of did some things there that were interesting
01:10:25.010 –> 01:10:28.010
it was also an early video game adaptation i
01:10:28.010 –> 01:10:29.890
can see some people making the argument that
01:10:29.890 –> 01:10:32.949
it doesn’t belong mike where do you fall on that
01:10:32.949 –> 01:10:36.630
no i love this show this this definitely belongs
01:10:36.630 –> 01:10:40.770
uh for what it’s worth my five -year -old has
01:10:40.770 –> 01:10:43.050
watched a few of these episodes just recently
01:10:43.050 –> 01:10:46.390
and actually really enjoyed them my my kids did
01:10:46.390 –> 01:10:49.510
too must work even though it’s from 1989 she
01:10:49.510 –> 01:10:52.369
thought she was in there laughing her face off
01:10:52.369 –> 01:10:54.949
and thought it was hilarious and watched more
01:10:54.949 –> 01:10:59.050
than i expected her to and the the sad thing
01:10:59.050 –> 01:11:04.810
is the last time we did this uh well actually
01:11:04.810 –> 01:11:08.689
both times i didn’t realize wow he died that
01:11:08.689 –> 01:11:17.130
long ago uh so just before we did the first countdown
01:11:18.569 –> 01:11:22.569
Captain Lou Albano, who is Mario in this, died
01:11:22.569 –> 01:11:28.529
October 14th, 2009. And just after we did the
01:11:28.529 –> 01:11:31.770
first countdown, Danny Wells, who plays Luigi
01:11:31.770 –> 01:11:35.529
in the live action, died November 28th, 2013.
01:11:35.789 –> 01:11:40.310
Now, I thought Danny Wells died a lot later than
01:11:40.310 –> 01:11:47.600
2013. But yeah, no. Absolutely love this show.
01:11:47.659 –> 01:11:49.880
The coolest thing, I remember everything about
01:11:49.880 –> 01:11:52.960
this show. I don’t need to do any research, even
01:11:52.960 –> 01:11:55.000
though I’m sitting here on the Wikipedia page
01:11:55.000 –> 01:11:59.560
for the show. TV’s Mr. Neal and I did a whole
01:11:59.560 –> 01:12:02.439
podcast, Pixels and the Animation on the Geekcast
01:12:02.439 –> 01:12:04.880
Radio Network. We covered all of the episodes
01:12:04.880 –> 01:12:09.819
for this show and others. But I remember watching
01:12:09.819 –> 01:12:12.739
this show as a kid. I was nine years old in 1989.
01:12:16.489 –> 01:12:20.329
The coolest thing about this show running five
01:12:20.329 –> 01:12:24.090
days a week, Monday through Thursday, you got
01:12:24.090 –> 01:12:27.090
Mario and Luigi just as they are, Captain Lou
01:12:27.090 –> 01:12:30.970
Albano and Danny Wells just as they are, and
01:12:30.970 –> 01:12:34.489
you got four Mario cartoons Monday through Thursday.
01:12:34.930 –> 01:12:39.930
On Fridays, you still got them, but then you
01:12:39.930 –> 01:12:43.840
got The Legend of Zelda. And then Monday rolls
01:12:43.840 –> 01:12:46.380
around. You’re like, wait, where’s Zelda? Damn
01:12:46.380 –> 01:12:51.500
it. I want more Zelda. So they ran Zelda every
01:12:51.500 –> 01:12:55.479
Friday. And it is the one of, if not the best,
01:12:55.479 –> 01:12:57.880
I think is one of the only Zelda cartoons they’ve
01:12:57.880 –> 01:13:02.739
ever made. It is the best Legend of Zelda animated
01:13:02.739 –> 01:13:07.619
thing they’ve ever done. And man, I love that
01:13:07.619 –> 01:13:11.039
series. It is so cool. Absolutely love this series.
01:13:11.720 –> 01:13:13.819
You said it dropped how many spots since the
01:13:13.819 –> 01:13:17.680
last time we did this? 23. What’s wrong with
01:13:17.680 –> 01:13:22.180
you people? Not you guys. Not you guys. No, I’m
01:13:22.180 –> 01:13:24.439
going to say something. It went from 67 down
01:13:24.439 –> 01:13:28.460
to 90. I didn’t rank it. I didn’t have room for
01:13:28.460 –> 01:13:30.899
it in my top 100. No, no, no. I wasn’t talking
01:13:30.899 –> 01:13:33.539
about you. I was talking about the other 23 people.
01:13:33.739 –> 01:13:38.659
I don’t know. I don’t know if it has like…
01:13:38.810 –> 01:13:40.970
I for the me the combination like I don’t know
01:13:40.970 –> 01:13:43.510
if it has the quality that deserves top 100 and
01:13:43.510 –> 01:13:45.449
I don’t know if it has the influence I think
01:13:45.449 –> 01:13:47.829
it has some nostalgia and I guess maybe a little
01:13:47.829 –> 01:13:49.609
bit of uniqueness when it comes to video game
01:13:49.609 –> 01:13:51.409
adaptations but I don’t know if I see it as a
01:13:51.409 –> 01:13:56.810
top 100 show so it does have the uniqueness and
01:13:56.810 –> 01:14:00.390
it it does have the quality the uniqueness part
01:14:00.390 –> 01:14:06.170
is I just don’t know if I’ve put it in like Steve
01:14:06.170 –> 01:14:08.779
so the video games haven’t They’ve both dropped
01:14:08.779 –> 01:14:10.439
quite a bit. Captain N dropped right out of the
01:14:10.439 –> 01:14:15.539
countdown. They went from 80 or 79 to off of
01:14:15.539 –> 01:14:17.720
the countdown. And then we have Super Mario Bros.
01:14:17.859 –> 01:14:21.279
Super Show goes from 67 to 90. So both have dropped
01:14:21.279 –> 01:14:23.560
kind of precipitously. What do you think of the
01:14:23.560 –> 01:14:27.319
Super Mario Bros. Super Show? So I did list this
01:14:27.319 –> 01:14:30.020
on my list. Actually, my new list here, I have
01:14:30.020 –> 01:14:32.079
it. I don’t even remember what my old list was.
01:14:32.180 –> 01:14:35.119
But this one, I had it listed at 85. So I’m not
01:14:35.119 –> 01:14:40.229
that far off. It wasn’t it wasn’t that it was
01:14:40.229 –> 01:14:43.810
this stellar show. I think it was because. Out
01:14:43.810 –> 01:14:46.810
of all the different video game series, I picked
01:14:46.810 –> 01:14:49.050
this one because I enjoyed it the most and I
01:14:49.050 –> 01:14:52.390
can still kind of sit down and watch it. Like
01:14:52.390 –> 01:14:54.489
one of my sons had in his top 20, the other one
01:14:54.489 –> 01:14:58.689
had in his top 35, which is probably why it’s
01:14:58.689 –> 01:15:03.949
even on the list. They found it enjoyable. They
01:15:03.949 –> 01:15:05.569
really liked the show. And then, you know, they
01:15:05.569 –> 01:15:07.810
found the part where they do the hybrid thing
01:15:07.810 –> 01:15:13.250
kind of weird. But and to that degree, I kind
01:15:13.250 –> 01:15:16.149
of agree. Like I it was kind of a staple of some
01:15:16.149 –> 01:15:18.170
of the 80s shows, you know, the Ed Grimley type
01:15:18.170 –> 01:15:25.869
thing. I don’t. I don’t I don’t know if like
01:15:25.869 –> 01:15:29.789
any of these old. cartoons i know i have it on
01:15:29.789 –> 01:15:31.770
my list but i don’t know if any of them really
01:15:31.770 –> 01:15:34.649
stand the test of time i think out of the different
01:15:34.649 –> 01:15:37.989
ones that came out in the 80s this is this one
01:15:37.989 –> 01:15:40.109
or the super mario world are the only ones i
01:15:40.109 –> 01:15:43.470
would actually pick uh the other reason i kind
01:15:43.470 –> 01:15:46.369
of put it in here was because the new super mario
01:15:46.369 –> 01:15:50.369
brothers film actually used the theme song from
01:15:50.369 –> 01:15:55.590
this show and so i feel like if people are searching
01:15:55.590 –> 01:15:57.369
it out they’ll be like oh wait what is what’s
01:15:57.369 –> 01:15:59.710
this and you know it’ll get some kind of a small
01:15:59.710 –> 01:16:02.710
resurgence for this one alone because of the
01:16:02.710 –> 01:16:05.170
theme that’s in the movie and that’s why I put
01:16:05.170 –> 01:16:07.850
it on for my daughter so 100 % and that’s why
01:16:07.850 –> 01:16:12.130
I kind of introduced it and why I think this
01:16:12.130 –> 01:16:15.510
one alone stands out but as a whole like none
01:16:15.510 –> 01:16:18.569
of these 80s animated series that are video games
01:16:18.569 –> 01:16:21.069
stand the test of time which is why they’re making
01:16:21.069 –> 01:16:23.510
them all movies and Nintendo is heavily involved
01:16:23.510 –> 01:16:27.020
in them now to make sure that they have the quality
01:16:27.020 –> 01:16:31.560
and the standards of the games. And so in that
01:16:31.560 –> 01:16:36.500
regard, the newer stuff’s better. But if I had
01:16:36.500 –> 01:16:38.779
to pick any of the old 80s shows, this would
01:16:38.779 –> 01:16:41.079
be it for me. I’m interested to see what other
01:16:41.079 –> 01:16:44.020
people comment on when it comes to Super Mario
01:16:44.020 –> 01:16:45.859
Bros. Super Show, as well as all the other shows
01:16:45.859 –> 01:16:48.100
that are being revealed in this episode, see
01:16:48.100 –> 01:16:49.779
which ones they like and which ones they don’t
01:16:49.779 –> 01:16:51.420
like that we’re revealing. It should be interesting.
01:16:52.079 –> 01:16:55.119
All right. Let’s go away from Super Mario Brothers
01:16:55.119 –> 01:16:59.640
Super Show and the 80s into a first, I think,
01:16:59.680 –> 01:17:03.000
a first entrance from the 2010s to now. Coming
01:17:03.000 –> 01:17:08.359
up next. 89. Flood from cosmic shores. Gaze upon
01:17:08.359 –> 01:17:14.840
Dark Inner John. All right. Like I said, this
01:17:14.840 –> 01:17:18.800
is our first entrant from 2010 onward. So just
01:17:18.800 –> 01:17:22.079
hitting that cut because it is from 2010. um
01:17:22.079 –> 01:17:24.619
this is one that i had ranked i had it ranked
01:17:24.619 –> 01:17:27.699
at 97 obviously was not ranked originally since
01:17:27.699 –> 01:17:31.779
it didn’t exist yet interested to see the reaction
01:17:31.779 –> 01:17:34.279
we get from listeners when it comes to this one
01:17:34.279 –> 01:17:36.779
and i’m also interested to hear what your guys’s
01:17:36.779 –> 01:17:41.140
take on if this one is appearing how this franchise
01:17:41.140 –> 01:17:44.079
will fare overall we know there’s a bias here
01:17:44.079 –> 01:17:48.319
let’s go with our first cartoon from the world
01:17:48.319 –> 01:17:52.239
of the transformers this is 2010’s Transformers
01:17:52.239 –> 01:17:56.319
Prime at number 89. Steve, what do you think
01:17:56.319 –> 01:17:59.300
of Transformers Prime making it into our top
01:17:59.300 –> 01:18:03.920
100? To be honest, I’m kind of surprised that
01:18:03.920 –> 01:18:09.239
it made it at this spot. It is pretty good, but
01:18:09.239 –> 01:18:11.359
I do feel like it’s an acquired taste. It’s very
01:18:11.359 –> 01:18:17.140
dark. We did get Frank Walker and Peter Cullen.
01:18:17.710 –> 01:18:19.670
reprising their roles, which was awesome. We
01:18:19.670 –> 01:18:24.069
got Steve Bloom as Starscream. I mean, there’s
01:18:24.069 –> 01:18:29.029
a lot of iconic voice actors in this show. And
01:18:29.029 –> 01:18:31.529
the show is pretty good, but I feel like it also
01:18:31.529 –> 01:18:36.489
kind of lost its way the longer it went. So I
01:18:36.489 –> 01:18:41.510
can see why it’s as high as it is or low, depending
01:18:41.510 –> 01:18:45.949
on how you’re looking at it. Are you surprised
01:18:45.949 –> 01:18:48.689
that it’s in our top 100? I’m not surprised it
01:18:48.689 –> 01:18:52.229
is it is top 100 worthy more than I would say
01:18:52.229 –> 01:18:55.029
probably the you know the rescue bots or things
01:18:55.029 –> 01:18:58.550
like that because each each version of Transformers
01:18:58.550 –> 01:19:01.590
has its own flavor and we have I mean we’ve had
01:19:01.590 –> 01:19:04.989
multiple multiple series but I feel like this
01:19:04.989 –> 01:19:09.189
and animated were kind of the last I would say
01:19:09.189 –> 01:19:12.369
good series we got because it’s it’s been kind
01:19:12.369 –> 01:19:15.179
of floundering with a bunch of random series
01:19:15.179 –> 01:19:20.220
that have various issues, whether it’s. Or writing
01:19:20.220 –> 01:19:24.399
or not long enough episodes or the voice cast
01:19:24.399 –> 01:19:29.000
is kind of mediocre or. Voice direction is terrible.
01:19:30.720 –> 01:19:32.899
It’s been plagued by a lot of those different
01:19:32.899 –> 01:19:36.399
things, so I feel like this is the last good.
01:19:37.220 –> 01:19:41.100
CG series we’ve gotten. So I do feel like it’s
01:19:41.100 –> 01:19:44.289
top 100 worthy. Yeah, this one debuted on The
01:19:44.289 –> 01:19:46.489
Hub, and I’m going to tell you both sides, in
01:19:46.489 –> 01:19:49.050
my opinion, of what this is. So I think on one
01:19:49.050 –> 01:19:50.590
side, you’re going to have people that say it’s
01:19:50.590 –> 01:19:53.630
top 100 worthy because this is probably, some
01:19:53.630 –> 01:19:55.470
people would make the argument that this is kind
01:19:55.470 –> 01:19:58.630
of peak Transformers storytelling. That’s strong
01:19:58.630 –> 01:20:01.310
character writing, that it’s one of the most
01:20:01.310 –> 01:20:03.550
complete versions of Transformers we got, and
01:20:03.550 –> 01:20:05.449
it has that cinematic tone. That’s going to be
01:20:05.449 –> 01:20:07.569
one camp. The other camp is going to say that
01:20:07.569 –> 01:20:09.489
we’re biased towards Transformers shows. Mike,
01:20:09.630 –> 01:20:12.920
what do you think? 89. Okay, 89. This should
01:20:12.920 –> 01:20:19.340
at least be 86. Hurry up. But anyway, look, this
01:20:19.340 –> 01:20:22.380
show, when it came out, when it debuted, it was
01:20:22.380 –> 01:20:25.199
super cool. It was awesome to get Peter and Frank
01:20:25.199 –> 01:20:30.279
back. I understand a lot of people were skeptical
01:20:30.279 –> 01:20:34.399
at the time with the CGI stuff. A lot of people,
01:20:34.479 –> 01:20:36.720
because, you know, you’re going from animated
01:20:36.720 –> 01:20:40.449
style to this. and a lot of people were skeptical
01:20:40.449 –> 01:20:43.470
about that but this definitely does deserve a
01:20:43.470 –> 01:20:45.430
spot like i said i think it should be at least
01:20:45.430 –> 01:20:51.949
three spots higher but is the civic that’s the
01:20:51.949 –> 01:20:54.310
most specific critique i’ve ever heard this one
01:20:54.310 –> 01:20:56.810
he wants it to be 86 like transformers the movie
01:20:56.810 –> 01:21:00.510
exactly oh my god so hey i read between mike’s
01:21:00.510 –> 01:21:04.489
lines because i talked to him exactly i try to
01:21:04.489 –> 01:21:07.369
avoid mike’s lines and reading i know exactly
01:21:07.369 –> 01:21:10.369
you’ve been trying to avoid my lines since 2009
01:21:10.369 –> 01:21:14.310
yeah anyway uh so it’s one year before this show
01:21:14.310 –> 01:21:19.949
came out i know right anyway wait yeah you’re
01:21:19.949 –> 01:21:25.210
right it was um so yeah i i like it i think it’s
01:21:25.210 –> 01:21:27.930
a good show i think it does deserve to be on
01:21:27.930 –> 01:21:31.199
the countdown as far as how many other Transformers
01:21:31.199 –> 01:21:34.420
shows are going to be on the countdown. Don’t
01:21:34.420 –> 01:21:36.979
you people know who we are? We’re the podcast
01:21:36.979 –> 01:21:39.180
radio network. Of course, there’s going to be
01:21:39.180 –> 01:21:41.359
other Transformers shows on this countdown. I
01:21:41.359 –> 01:21:42.899
feel like there’s non -Transformers fans that
01:21:42.899 –> 01:21:45.079
hear Transformers Prime at 89 and they’re like,
01:21:45.100 –> 01:21:49.500
uh -oh. Well, yeah. Here we go. Hello? Don’t
01:21:49.500 –> 01:21:51.439
you know who we are by now? We’ve been online
01:21:51.439 –> 01:21:54.899
for almost 17 years. Now, if Beast Wars doesn’t
01:21:54.899 –> 01:21:57.470
make the list, I’m… filing a formal protest
01:21:57.470 –> 01:22:00.449
he’s gonna riot we’ll give you the we’ll give
01:22:00.449 –> 01:22:03.210
you the name of the founder of the website well
01:22:03.210 –> 01:22:06.829
that’s him he he can’t yeah he can’t he can’t
01:22:06.829 –> 01:22:09.529
riot on himself he can’t go all beast mode on
01:22:09.529 –> 01:22:13.050
an interesting live show all right it lands double
01:22:13.050 –> 01:22:17.210
zero from one franchise to another let’s see
01:22:17.210 –> 01:22:22.409
where we go next 88 an adventure begins and a
01:22:22.409 –> 01:22:27.180
legend is born The Dragon Balls have been scattered,
01:22:27.279 –> 01:22:29.819
and it’s up to Goku and friends to collect them.
01:22:29.960 –> 01:22:36.180
Witness the birth of the Dragon Ball Saga. It’ll
01:22:36.180 –> 01:22:38.020
be interesting also to see what people think
01:22:38.020 –> 01:22:41.039
as this one makes its debut into our countdown.
01:22:41.199 –> 01:22:43.220
It was eligible last time, but didn’t quite make
01:22:43.220 –> 01:22:47.100
it. It was ranked 143rd last time. It climbs
01:22:47.100 –> 01:22:49.920
all the way up to 88 this time. So one of those
01:22:49.920 –> 01:22:52.010
that we didn’t consider. When we were doing all
01:22:52.010 –> 01:22:54.470
our speculation, the shows that got votes last
01:22:54.470 –> 01:22:57.729
time, that would actually rise up the rankings.
01:22:57.829 –> 01:23:01.449
So this one came over to us in 1986. How about
01:23:01.449 –> 01:23:04.010
another anime entry into our countdown? This
01:23:04.010 –> 01:23:09.930
is the original Dragon Ball. 1986 syndicated
01:23:09.930 –> 01:23:12.770
from Harmony Gold here. I’m going to start with
01:23:12.770 –> 01:23:14.630
Steve because he’s the most knowledgeable person
01:23:14.630 –> 01:23:16.550
we have when it comes to the universe that is
01:23:16.550 –> 01:23:20.180
Dragon Ball. So the first series makes its appearance
01:23:20.180 –> 01:23:23.180
here at number 88. What are your thoughts? I
01:23:23.180 –> 01:23:25.659
think it’s awesome because this show is what
01:23:25.659 –> 01:23:32.920
spawned a lot of the fighting action anime that
01:23:32.920 –> 01:23:35.619
came to America, even though it’s not as widely
01:23:35.619 –> 01:23:38.979
known. Yeah, not just for Dragon Ball either.
01:23:39.119 –> 01:23:41.680
This is the foundation of a global anime fandom.
01:23:42.760 –> 01:23:45.640
Yeah, totally. And they they dubbed it and they’ve
01:23:45.640 –> 01:23:48.300
it’s been redubbed with the same voice cast is
01:23:48.300 –> 01:23:51.260
like Dragon Ball Z. When they redid all of that,
01:23:51.359 –> 01:23:55.840
they kind of have this unified voice front. You
01:23:55.840 –> 01:23:59.500
know, it starts off. You can you can kind of
01:23:59.500 –> 01:24:02.960
tell he’s rewriting. The continuity as he goes
01:24:02.960 –> 01:24:07.460
on some of it, but it’s it’s very. Story based
01:24:07.460 –> 01:24:10.659
character based like Goku’s, you know, this optimist
01:24:10.659 –> 01:24:13.010
that kind of picks up. friends along the way
01:24:13.010 –> 01:24:16.789
and you find out his story slowly as you know
01:24:16.789 –> 01:24:19.270
his friends kind of peel back the the onion that’s
01:24:19.270 –> 01:24:22.689
his life uh and you find out that he’s not actually
01:24:22.689 –> 01:24:26.510
human but they don’t know that he’s not like
01:24:26.510 –> 01:24:30.189
they they don’t know why he has the tail or turns
01:24:30.189 –> 01:24:34.250
into the uh the giant uzaru monkey uh when the
01:24:34.250 –> 01:24:36.729
the moon comes out and you don’t find out until
01:24:36.729 –> 01:24:38.869
dragon ball z that he’s a saying like that didn’t
01:24:38.869 –> 01:24:43.050
even exist until that point but You get to meet
01:24:43.050 –> 01:24:45.090
a lot of the main cast that kind of stick through
01:24:45.090 –> 01:24:47.189
and have been with the series since the very
01:24:47.189 –> 01:24:50.489
beginning and find out how they went from…
01:24:50.489 –> 01:24:52.949
Pretty much everybody Goku fights goes from enemy
01:24:52.949 –> 01:24:58.029
to friend by the end of that arc. So it’s been…
01:24:58.029 –> 01:25:02.090
There’s a lot of comedy in it. There’s a lot
01:25:02.090 –> 01:25:03.989
of things that wouldn’t get displayed on TV now.
01:25:05.270 –> 01:25:07.489
Namely, when Goku’s running around butt naked.
01:25:09.420 –> 01:25:11.319
Like there’s literally scenes where you see his
01:25:11.319 –> 01:25:13.600
butt or his balls. Like it’s just it’s weird.
01:25:14.359 –> 01:25:19.760
It would not get displayed on TV now. But yeah,
01:25:19.800 –> 01:25:21.979
like you get to meet Bulma, Yamcha, Tien, like
01:25:21.979 –> 01:25:24.079
all these other characters with Goku. But it’s
01:25:24.079 –> 01:25:27.460
it’s very much the story of him and his goal
01:25:27.460 –> 01:25:30.420
of becoming stronger and a better fighter. And
01:25:30.420 –> 01:25:35.199
it continues on through even. Dragon Ball Super,
01:25:35.359 –> 01:25:38.460
though. It’s definitely a foundational series.
01:25:38.619 –> 01:25:43.220
And I think that to have any other Dragon Ball
01:25:43.220 –> 01:25:47.880
series, like if you I love Dragon Ball Z. To
01:25:47.880 –> 01:25:50.239
me, it’s like my favorite. That was my intro
01:25:50.239 –> 01:25:55.079
to the whole anime sphere. But to not have Dragon
01:25:55.079 –> 01:25:57.439
Ball on the list is kind of a disservice to all
01:25:57.439 –> 01:25:59.939
anime and especially the Dragon Ball franchise,
01:26:00.100 –> 01:26:04.300
because some argue that it is the best that we
01:26:04.300 –> 01:26:07.939
got storytelling wise. Yeah. And I think from
01:26:07.939 –> 01:26:09.600
a foundational standpoint, we’ve had that a number
01:26:09.600 –> 01:26:12.319
of times so far in today’s episode from Speed
01:26:12.319 –> 01:26:16.159
Racer and Robotech in a way to Gummy Bears to
01:26:16.159 –> 01:26:19.020
Super Friends. I think Dragon Ball kind of fits
01:26:19.020 –> 01:26:21.539
in that same realm of like being influential
01:26:21.539 –> 01:26:25.500
for what comes after it as well. So it sounds
01:26:25.500 –> 01:26:26.760
like it might have a little bit more quality
01:26:26.760 –> 01:26:28.659
in and of itself than maybe a couple of other
01:26:28.659 –> 01:26:31.399
ones did. But the history, I think, plays a part
01:26:31.399 –> 01:26:32.739
as well. Mike, what do you think about Dragon
01:26:32.739 –> 01:26:36.189
Ball coming in here at number 88? never seen
01:26:36.189 –> 01:26:39.729
it all right i figured that was the case but
01:26:39.729 –> 01:26:43.630
uh wanted to check anyway so all right we’re
01:26:43.630 –> 01:26:46.050
gonna take a break from dragon ball and let’s
01:26:46.050 –> 01:26:49.109
go to our what will end up being our most recent
01:26:49.109 –> 01:26:53.350
show to make the entire list coming up next 87
01:26:53.350 –> 01:26:59.970
we have to stay vigilant to me my x -men magneto
01:27:00.600 –> 01:27:03.859
The last will and testament of Charles Xavier.
01:27:04.619 –> 01:27:11.260
Everything he built now belongs to me. No yet,
01:27:11.319 –> 01:27:13.800
Mike. This is the most recent show that is going
01:27:13.800 –> 01:27:18.579
to make our entire list. This is from 2024. So
01:27:18.579 –> 01:27:21.140
there will be no shows that came out in 2025
01:27:21.140 –> 01:27:24.640
that make our list. So from 2024, we’ve already
01:27:24.640 –> 01:27:27.600
had one DC show. So let’s have our first Marvel
01:27:27.600 –> 01:27:33.090
show. Coming in at number 87 is X -Men 97. So
01:27:33.090 –> 01:27:35.609
it’s from Marvel. I believe it originally aired
01:27:35.609 –> 01:27:39.970
on Disney+. Coming in here at number 87, X -Men
01:27:39.970 –> 01:27:44.329
97. Mike, what do you think? Yeah, it’s a continuation
01:27:44.329 –> 01:27:48.869
of X -Men, the animated series from 1992. X -Men
01:27:48.869 –> 01:27:52.890
97, the one thing that gets talked about right
01:27:52.890 –> 01:27:56.899
now is that… it’s very good for what’s come
01:27:56.899 –> 01:27:59.760
out so far. And the cliffhanger that a lot of
01:27:59.760 –> 01:28:02.439
people are left with is they think it has the
01:28:02.439 –> 01:28:05.020
potential to be even better than X -Men, the
01:28:05.020 –> 01:28:06.859
animated series, or at least elevate that to
01:28:06.859 –> 01:28:08.880
a certain point. But then the other side of the
01:28:08.880 –> 01:28:10.420
coin, I’ll try to finish a sentence before you
01:28:10.420 –> 01:28:12.739
go, Mike, let me, let me try. But the other side
01:28:12.739 –> 01:28:15.920
of the coin is that, is it too new? And do we
01:28:15.920 –> 01:28:18.460
need to wait until it finishes before it becomes
01:28:18.460 –> 01:28:21.300
top 100 worthy or not? That’s the question. Go
01:28:21.300 –> 01:28:24.789
ahead, Mike. Well, the thing of it is, is we
01:28:24.789 –> 01:28:27.930
decided to separate it from X -Men, the animated
01:28:27.930 –> 01:28:30.729
series, even though technically it is a continuation
01:28:30.729 –> 01:28:35.850
of X -Men, the animated series. The thing of
01:28:35.850 –> 01:28:38.590
it is, is there is only currently one season
01:28:38.590 –> 01:28:42.949
that’s available, which is 10 episodes. The second
01:28:42.949 –> 01:28:46.069
season is supposed to come out mid this year
01:28:46.069 –> 01:28:50.090
at some point. I thought the second season was
01:28:50.090 –> 01:28:55.050
already out for some odd reason. uh the 10 episodes
01:28:55.050 –> 01:29:04.149
are very good i don’t know if it’s stop 100 worthy
01:29:04.149 –> 01:29:09.289
and coming in where where are we at now 87 87
01:29:09.289 –> 01:29:13.670
should have been way lower this honestly flip
01:29:13.670 –> 01:29:17.710
-flop 100 in this steve what does this mean for
01:29:17.710 –> 01:29:21.289
the superhero segment of our So we’ve seen a
01:29:21.289 –> 01:29:23.409
couple now already. So just two, we’ve had super
01:29:23.409 –> 01:29:26.189
friends at 92. We’ve had X -Men 97 at 87. Does
01:29:26.189 –> 01:29:29.029
this mean there’s a lot still to come or what
01:29:29.029 –> 01:29:31.050
do you think the impact of X -Men 97 showing
01:29:31.050 –> 01:29:36.689
up on our countdown is? So I, I understood like
01:29:36.689 –> 01:29:40.449
some people were, were asking, and this was in
01:29:40.449 –> 01:29:45.029
the fan vote, actually do have X -Men 97 included
01:29:45.029 –> 01:29:46.649
because originally I think we were going to lump
01:29:46.649 –> 01:29:48.979
it all together because it. still is a continuation
01:29:48.979 –> 01:29:53.500
of x -men the animated series from the 90s and
01:29:53.500 –> 01:29:57.119
people were like no i mean it’s the same but
01:29:57.119 –> 01:29:59.760
it’s not like it’s got a different title card
01:29:59.760 –> 01:30:04.840
and so like in that regard i understood what
01:30:04.840 –> 01:30:06.939
they were going for and they are kind of flipping
01:30:06.939 –> 01:30:09.340
things on its head it is marvel animation it’s
01:30:09.340 –> 01:30:14.119
not like fox studios it’s um They did reuse the
01:30:14.119 –> 01:30:16.600
theme song. They brought back as many voice casts
01:30:16.600 –> 01:30:18.220
as they could from the original that were still
01:30:18.220 –> 01:30:27.359
alive. But. It’s also. I think it’s a recency
01:30:27.359 –> 01:30:30.560
bias, like for one, but I think, too, like I
01:30:30.560 –> 01:30:34.000
can’t tell. Like, it’s this weird, this weird
01:30:34.000 –> 01:30:38.500
conundrum because it’s a new series. It’s but
01:30:38.500 –> 01:30:41.180
it’s a continuation and it plays with nostalgia.
01:30:41.680 –> 01:30:44.439
Right. So we’re dealing with all three simultaneously
01:30:44.439 –> 01:30:46.640
and it’s like, okay, so where does this actually
01:30:46.640 –> 01:30:50.300
lie? Like where, where should it go? And it’s
01:30:50.300 –> 01:30:52.720
also got one season. So theoretically it shouldn’t
01:30:52.720 –> 01:30:56.579
never have been in, in this list because by,
01:30:56.720 –> 01:30:59.140
you know, our own account of certain shows that
01:30:59.140 –> 01:31:02.699
we axed from the list that had one season, it
01:31:02.699 –> 01:31:06.479
should have never made it. However, it was supposed
01:31:06.479 –> 01:31:08.560
to have another season and I believe it was supposed
01:31:08.560 –> 01:31:10.359
to come out sooner, but because of all of the,
01:31:10.909 –> 01:31:14.350
the drama with production team and Marvel and
01:31:14.350 –> 01:31:20.670
Disney, like it got postponed. So I agree. It
01:31:20.670 –> 01:31:24.789
should be here. I kind of, I mean, I had it much
01:31:24.789 –> 01:31:28.289
higher on my list than, than this, but it was
01:31:28.289 –> 01:31:30.489
because it’s, it’s giving us that modern animation.
01:31:30.529 –> 01:31:32.670
It’s still playing with the nostalgia. It’s continuing
01:31:32.670 –> 01:31:34.890
that universe. And I always enjoyed it as a kid.
01:31:35.529 –> 01:31:41.720
Uh, it does have a pretty good rating on, on
01:31:41.720 –> 01:31:44.640
Rotten Tomatoes at 99%, whereas the original
01:31:44.640 –> 01:31:47.619
X -Men has 83%. So, I mean, I think, again, it’s
01:31:47.619 –> 01:31:49.380
just because a new generation has been exposed
01:31:49.380 –> 01:31:54.380
to it. So, I don’t know. This one’s weird for
01:31:54.380 –> 01:31:56.300
me. So, I’ll be interested to see what people’s
01:31:56.300 –> 01:31:58.539
arguments are in the comments. It was definitely
01:31:58.539 –> 01:32:00.500
one that was very highly ranked by those that
01:32:00.500 –> 01:32:04.000
ranked it. So, everything that appears in today’s
01:32:04.000 –> 01:32:08.520
segment is appearing on anywhere from 12 to 19
01:32:08.520 –> 01:32:13.050
of the 44 list. this is one of the four shows
01:32:13.050 –> 01:32:16.989
that appeared on only 12 lists which means that
01:32:16.989 –> 01:32:19.470
it was pretty highly ranked amongst those 12
01:32:19.470 –> 01:32:22.409
contributors i mean that’s a fourth of our list
01:32:22.409 –> 01:32:25.869
kind of um so it was highly ranked by those folks
01:32:25.869 –> 01:32:28.409
for sure but i do think you you make a good point
01:32:28.409 –> 01:32:30.329
it’s both playing on nostalgia and recency which
01:32:30.329 –> 01:32:33.250
is a maybe a good recipe for getting some more
01:32:33.250 –> 01:32:35.609
points for sure and the funny thing is really
01:32:35.609 –> 01:32:38.109
quickly i just looked at the episodes and i looked
01:32:38.109 –> 01:32:41.359
at the cast list and steve’s point about both
01:32:41.359 –> 01:32:44.840
recency and nostalgia the only nostalgia part
01:32:44.840 –> 01:32:48.100
for me when i watched it was cal dodd returning
01:32:48.100 –> 01:32:53.640
as the voice of wolverine and storm i don’t and
01:32:53.640 –> 01:32:57.880
yeah and it doesn’t look exactly the same no
01:32:57.880 –> 01:32:59.939
it doesn’t and that’s fine you know you have
01:32:59.939 –> 01:33:02.359
updated animation and whatever else the animation
01:33:02.359 –> 01:33:05.520
changed that’s fine after 30 years or whatever
01:33:05.520 –> 01:33:08.159
almost 30 years i thought they made it like as
01:33:08.159 –> 01:33:11.239
close to looking as they tried they did their
01:33:11.239 –> 01:33:13.539
best you’re also dealing with people that don’t
01:33:13.539 –> 01:33:17.039
do classic animation anymore everything’s yeah
01:33:17.039 –> 01:33:21.920
generated exactly but like i don’t even like
01:33:21.920 –> 01:33:27.260
the first season came out talking two years ago
01:33:27.260 –> 01:33:30.439
so i watched it two years ago when it came out
01:33:30.439 –> 01:33:33.699
and the 10 episodes literally i just looked at
01:33:33.699 –> 01:33:36.579
all of their descriptions and i’m like I don’t
01:33:36.579 –> 01:33:39.220
remember any of this, any of any of these plots.
01:33:39.840 –> 01:33:42.659
Like, I now feel like I have to go back and watch
01:33:42.659 –> 01:33:45.000
these 10 episodes to remember what the hell happened
01:33:45.000 –> 01:33:49.939
in this show. Like, no clue. Whereas I could
01:33:49.939 –> 01:33:53.680
tell you exactly what happened in Dawn of Futures,
01:33:53.680 –> 01:33:57.619
Days of Futures Past in the original show. Like,
01:33:57.619 –> 01:34:01.000
it’s just weird. So like I said, it’s the most
01:34:01.000 –> 01:34:02.739
recent one. So it’ll be interesting to see what
01:34:02.739 –> 01:34:05.479
people’s thoughts are on X -Men 97. Like we said,
01:34:05.520 –> 01:34:07.840
this only got in through the fan vote. And then
01:34:07.840 –> 01:34:09.899
once it was in through the fan vote, enough people
01:34:09.899 –> 01:34:11.859
voted for it. 12 people voted for it high enough
01:34:11.859 –> 01:34:13.920
to get it on the list. So here it sits at number
01:34:13.920 –> 01:34:19.060
87. Let’s go to a new production studio. Let’s
01:34:19.060 –> 01:34:24.359
go back to the 80s for number 86. Ghostly haunting.
01:34:24.439 –> 01:34:28.359
I turn loose. Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice.
01:34:30.449 –> 01:34:33.949
All right. Next up on our list from Nelvana,
01:34:34.109 –> 01:34:37.729
which we haven’t said before, debuted on ABC,
01:34:37.810 –> 01:34:41.449
which seems to be a common theme today. This
01:34:41.449 –> 01:34:44.789
is 1989 series. I’m interested to hear your guys’s
01:34:44.789 –> 01:34:49.350
take on this one. It was 157 15 years ago. It
01:34:49.350 –> 01:34:52.390
has risen all the way up to 86. I guess there’s
01:34:52.390 –> 01:34:55.609
more love in this group of 44 people for Beetlejuice.
01:34:56.039 –> 01:34:58.300
Or maybe this was influenced by the more recent
01:34:58.300 –> 01:35:01.680
movies. I don’t know. But we have 1989’s Beetlejuice
01:35:01.680 –> 01:35:05.960
here at number 86. Mike, what do you think? Interesting.
01:35:07.420 –> 01:35:09.779
Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice. Doesn’t
01:35:09.779 –> 01:35:13.140
work. Mike would do that, though. Of course I
01:35:13.140 –> 01:35:17.840
would. Very interesting. I love this cartoon.
01:35:18.039 –> 01:35:21.399
This cartoon was crazy. And I did not know until
01:35:21.399 –> 01:35:25.359
we actually interviewed Michael Hirsch, who…
01:35:25.920 –> 01:35:30.479
was the founder of nirvana uh did not know that
01:35:30.479 –> 01:35:33.180
nirvana was the one that created this cartoon
01:35:33.180 –> 01:35:38.159
but this cartoon was crazy back then absolutely
01:35:38.159 –> 01:35:41.279
loved it because i was a as a kid i was a i loved
01:35:41.279 –> 01:35:46.460
that movie sorry i did have a couple award nominations
01:35:46.460 –> 01:35:50.060
so it is a little critically praised as well
01:35:50.060 –> 01:35:51.960
mike or steve i guess to start with steve do
01:35:51.960 –> 01:35:54.199
you think this one benefited from the recent
01:35:54.199 –> 01:35:58.579
beetlejuice movie Getting votes or do you think
01:35:58.579 –> 01:35:59.859
it’s just a different pool of people that just
01:35:59.859 –> 01:36:03.420
like Beetlejuice? I think 100 % it was fueled
01:36:03.420 –> 01:36:05.800
by the movie. Also, I noticed right around the
01:36:05.800 –> 01:36:10.460
time that the movie came out on DVD and Blu -ray
01:36:10.460 –> 01:36:15.579
because I frequent Walmart out of boredom. Yeah,
01:36:16.640 –> 01:36:20.220
pretty much every other day. I go on my lunch
01:36:20.220 –> 01:36:21.800
break because I’m like, I got to get out of here.
01:36:22.380 –> 01:36:24.300
do something and so i started looking at the
01:36:24.300 –> 01:36:27.140
dvds and so when the movie came out on dvd is
01:36:27.140 –> 01:36:29.359
that you know the the release of beetlejuice
01:36:29.359 –> 01:36:34.279
2 the animated series miraculously shows up as
01:36:34.279 –> 01:36:39.159
a box set of the animated series in walmart and
01:36:39.159 –> 01:36:43.420
i was like oh did not know that you know that
01:36:43.420 –> 01:36:46.380
it was out on disc and not that i bought it but
01:36:46.380 –> 01:36:49.140
it was just it was interesting to find and so
01:36:49.140 –> 01:36:51.539
i think that a lot of people are kind of rediscovering
01:36:51.819 –> 01:36:54.279
the animated series in proxy because of the beetle
01:36:54.279 –> 01:36:59.300
juice to a film that came out. And so I think
01:36:59.300 –> 01:37:02.220
some of it’s a, a recency bias, but I think that,
01:37:02.220 –> 01:37:05.659
uh, two, it was kind of original cause you had
01:37:05.659 –> 01:37:08.600
some CG mixed in with the animation. The voice
01:37:08.600 –> 01:37:11.899
acting was great. It was weird. Uh, it had a
01:37:11.899 –> 01:37:16.140
very nineties vibe to it and the toys were fun.
01:37:16.840 –> 01:37:22.630
And it just, overall like the whole series kind
01:37:22.630 –> 01:37:25.770
of played in the the nether realm and you had
01:37:25.770 –> 01:37:27.729
all these weird moments that kind of fit with
01:37:27.729 –> 01:37:30.069
something like the magic school bus like going
01:37:30.069 –> 01:37:33.890
into his brain or you know different different
01:37:33.890 –> 01:37:37.449
explorations of of him or his world you know
01:37:37.449 –> 01:37:39.550
his feet start talking in an episode you know
01:37:39.550 –> 01:37:42.689
detach and i mean there’s just all kinds of weird
01:37:42.689 –> 01:37:44.409
stuff that happens so i definitely think it’s
01:37:44.409 –> 01:37:47.029
more of a recency bias by collaboration with
01:37:47.029 –> 01:37:50.239
the films uh but it’s not a bad series and i
01:37:50.239 –> 01:37:52.640
i think it’s kind of deserving to be on the list
01:37:52.640 –> 01:37:55.079
this time around i’m kind of surprised it didn’t
01:37:55.079 –> 01:37:57.880
make the list last time around honestly like
01:37:57.880 –> 01:37:59.220
out of all the shows i would have thought there
01:37:59.220 –> 01:38:01.000
would have been more love for it it is interesting
01:38:01.000 –> 01:38:03.199
also interesting reinvention of the character
01:38:03.199 –> 01:38:04.979
beetle just because he kind of goes from a villain
01:38:04.979 –> 01:38:08.960
uh to an ally uh you know film to cartoon in
01:38:08.960 –> 01:38:11.359
a way too so i’m not surprised that it appears
01:38:11.359 –> 01:38:13.119
here i’m more surprised that it didn’t the first
01:38:13.119 –> 01:38:16.750
time i guess agree And I got to say, Stephen
01:38:16.750 –> 01:38:20.170
Oimet, I hope I’m pronouncing that right, Canadian
01:38:20.170 –> 01:38:24.710
voice actor, does a great Michael Keaton impression
01:38:24.710 –> 01:38:27.930
as the main voice of Beetlejuice in the cartoon.
01:38:28.569 –> 01:38:32.050
Yeah. All right. We’re going to go back quite
01:38:32.050 –> 01:38:37.310
a ways in time here for this next one. 85. And
01:38:37.310 –> 01:38:40.390
now here they are, the most daredevil group of
01:38:40.390 –> 01:38:42.510
daddy drivers to ever whirl their wheels in the
01:38:42.510 –> 01:38:46.239
wacky races. Competing for the title of the world’s
01:38:46.239 –> 01:38:51.840
wackiest racer. All right. For number 85, we’re
01:38:51.840 –> 01:38:54.560
going back into the 60s. Our third trip back
01:38:54.560 –> 01:38:56.600
to the 60s. So we’ve already seen Speed Racer
01:38:56.600 –> 01:39:00.359
and Top Cat. Intrigued that this one is making
01:39:00.359 –> 01:39:04.340
the list. It was at number 135 15 years ago.
01:39:04.399 –> 01:39:08.239
It has climbed up about 50 spots to get to our
01:39:08.239 –> 01:39:12.500
number 85 spot from 1968. a Hanna -Barbera show
01:39:12.500 –> 01:39:15.220
that debuted on CBS, first time we’ve mentioned
01:39:15.220 –> 01:39:20.319
CBS, and that would be Wacky Races, which is
01:39:20.319 –> 01:39:23.960
interesting here because from a storytelling
01:39:23.960 –> 01:39:26.060
standpoint and all of this type of stuff might
01:39:26.060 –> 01:39:30.479
be seen as simple, campy, not a lot of depth
01:39:30.479 –> 01:39:33.619
to it, but it did give us some iconic concepts
01:39:33.619 –> 01:39:36.420
and designs and archetypes like Dick Dastardly
01:39:36.420 –> 01:39:39.529
and things of that nature. So maybe more design
01:39:39.529 –> 01:39:42.310
influence than story influence. But Steve, what
01:39:42.310 –> 01:39:45.350
do you think of Wacky Races, another 60s show
01:39:45.350 –> 01:39:49.310
showing up here at number 85? Out of a variety
01:39:49.310 –> 01:39:52.590
of shows that came out around that time, it was
01:39:52.590 –> 01:39:56.369
highly entertaining between all of the different
01:39:56.369 –> 01:39:59.449
characters that would show up. You know, the
01:39:59.449 –> 01:40:05.130
Slag Brothers and the Ant Hill Mob. And it was
01:40:05.130 –> 01:40:07.569
kind of funny because it was announcing. in a
01:40:07.569 –> 01:40:14.510
lot of ways like it was nascar right mixed with
01:40:14.510 –> 01:40:17.050
like wrestling in a sense because of all the
01:40:17.050 –> 01:40:19.430
oh and they did blah blah blah like you know
01:40:19.430 –> 01:40:24.510
and i mean let’s get for real everybody watched
01:40:24.510 –> 01:40:26.949
it because of dick dastardly and butley like
01:40:26.949 –> 01:40:29.569
that was literally yeah that was literally the
01:40:29.569 –> 01:40:31.250
whole reason for the show like everything else
01:40:31.250 –> 01:40:34.729
was kind of weird and you know then I mean, I
01:40:34.729 –> 01:40:35.829
feel like if you’re going to remember anybody,
01:40:35.989 –> 01:40:38.829
it’s the Slag Brothers, Penelope, Pit Stop, and
01:40:38.829 –> 01:40:41.289
then Dick Dastardly and Muttley. The rest of
01:40:41.289 –> 01:40:47.270
them, it’s kind of like, eh. But, I mean, I don’t
01:40:47.270 –> 01:40:52.350
know. Out of some of the different shows, I did
01:40:52.350 –> 01:40:54.750
find it enjoyable for the times I did watch it.
01:40:56.949 –> 01:41:01.430
But, yeah, it’s… I guess it’s a lot of fun
01:41:01.430 –> 01:41:05.600
to those that… kind of grew up with it or that
01:41:05.600 –> 01:41:10.720
um like that type of program i think and it’s
01:41:10.720 –> 01:41:13.140
had a reboot too like in recent years as well
01:41:13.140 –> 01:41:16.060
i think one thing that this reminds me of and
01:41:16.060 –> 01:41:18.260
it’s not for everybody i guess but like one thing
01:41:18.260 –> 01:41:20.880
that it i’m surprised it made our countdown honestly
01:41:20.880 –> 01:41:23.060
like it didn’t make our countdown last time and
01:41:23.060 –> 01:41:25.000
i was a little surprised it did this time i do
01:41:25.000 –> 01:41:27.039
enjoy it from a personal standpoint because i
01:41:27.039 –> 01:41:29.739
think it does two things that are somewhat of
01:41:29.739 –> 01:41:34.619
a lost art which is one it’s kind of like that
01:41:34.619 –> 01:41:39.460
timeless humor that similar to like a Tom and
01:41:39.460 –> 01:41:41.279
Jerry or Looney Tunes or things of that nature
01:41:41.279 –> 01:41:43.920
where like the types of hijinks and the things
01:41:43.920 –> 01:41:46.960
that are going on, it doesn’t matter what generation
01:41:46.960 –> 01:41:49.739
you’re from. I don’t think as far as like finding
01:41:49.739 –> 01:41:52.479
the humor in like what they’re doing. And I think
01:41:52.479 –> 01:41:55.880
the other thing that this show focuses on is
01:41:55.880 –> 01:41:59.659
yes, they’re not doing a whole lot of like deep
01:41:59.659 –> 01:42:02.659
storytelling or whatnot, but they rely so much
01:42:02.659 –> 01:42:08.180
on the art of voice acting and like the people
01:42:08.180 –> 01:42:10.020
that are supplying the voices for these different
01:42:10.020 –> 01:42:11.659
characters. And then you have the announcer and
01:42:11.659 –> 01:42:13.159
you have all of the different stuff that like
01:42:13.159 –> 01:42:16.899
the storytelling is from the voice actors. Like
01:42:16.899 –> 01:42:18.819
they’re really bringing the characters to life
01:42:18.819 –> 01:42:21.359
and they’re really like bringing you along. And
01:42:21.359 –> 01:42:24.460
it’s like, I think there’s a timelessness to
01:42:24.460 –> 01:42:26.619
it. I think there’s a, that’s why it’s probably
01:42:26.619 –> 01:42:28.420
been rebooted to make it look a little bit more.
01:42:28.920 –> 01:42:30.899
modern but like still kind of rely on the same
01:42:30.899 –> 01:42:32.960
type of story gimmicks like you know like just
01:42:32.960 –> 01:42:34.720
like the Wile E. Coyote Roadrunner type stuff
01:42:34.720 –> 01:42:38.180
like it’s very similar to that aspect so I get
01:42:38.180 –> 01:42:41.899
the draw to it I think what surprises me is like
01:42:41.899 –> 01:42:44.600
shows like this and Laugh Olympics and things
01:42:44.600 –> 01:42:47.100
of that nature when you’re thinking about Hanna
01:42:47.100 –> 01:42:50.180
-Barbera is I didn’t expect any of those like
01:42:50.180 –> 01:42:52.939
more compilation shows to make the countdown
01:42:52.939 –> 01:42:55.979
versus like when it’s driven by one specific
01:42:55.979 –> 01:42:58.439
character, like we expect to probably see later
01:42:58.439 –> 01:43:01.220
in the countdown. Um, so, so that’s kind of like
01:43:01.220 –> 01:43:02.979
where I’m a little perplexed, but I’m not, I
01:43:02.979 –> 01:43:04.979
don’t dislike wacky races. Mike, what do you
01:43:04.979 –> 01:43:09.479
think of wacky races? Everything you guys already
01:43:09.479 –> 01:43:12.819
said, plus so much more like, Oh my God, this
01:43:12.819 –> 01:43:19.199
show, this show is a kid like so good. Uh, obviously
01:43:19.199 –> 01:43:22.079
Dick Dastardly and Muttley. I actually have,
01:43:22.359 –> 01:43:26.710
uh, When Funko, I think they still make this
01:43:26.710 –> 01:43:28.590
product. I don’t know if they do or not anymore,
01:43:28.710 –> 01:43:32.229
but they used to make soda products. So they
01:43:32.229 –> 01:43:35.609
were these, think of the Funko Pop product things,
01:43:35.750 –> 01:43:39.369
but they came in cans. So they had to fit them
01:43:39.369 –> 01:43:42.409
into soda cans. So the products were made slightly
01:43:42.409 –> 01:43:46.149
slimmer. I actually have Dick Dastardly and Muttly
01:43:46.149 –> 01:43:50.470
over on my kitchen shelf there. Absolutely love
01:43:50.470 –> 01:43:53.210
them. From the Slag Brothers to the Gruesome
01:43:53.210 –> 01:43:58.329
Twosome to Professor Patton Pending to the Red
01:43:58.329 –> 01:44:02.109
Max and Penelope Pitstop, she’s always getting
01:44:02.109 –> 01:44:05.229
in trouble. Like you guys said, the Angel Mob
01:44:05.229 –> 01:44:10.050
and Peter Perfect and Rufus Roughcut and all
01:44:10.050 –> 01:44:14.050
that just absolutely love Wacky Races. They just
01:44:14.050 –> 01:44:19.430
re -released it on Blu -ray last year, the complete
01:44:19.430 –> 01:44:23.989
series. I got to track that down, but absolutely
01:44:23.989 –> 01:44:26.470
love wacky races. Cause again, it’s a different,
01:44:26.569 –> 01:44:32.970
it’s a different type of cartoon show. That isn’t
01:44:32.970 –> 01:44:36.369
your normal thing. And it’s an, it’s interesting.
01:44:36.630 –> 01:44:41.149
It’s, it’s fun and absolutely deserves to be
01:44:41.149 –> 01:44:44.989
here. Very good. All right. Sound the police
01:44:44.989 –> 01:44:50.409
siren. Cause we have a tie coming up. 84. We
01:44:50.409 –> 01:44:52.210
were floating around the universe for the past
01:44:52.210 –> 01:44:56.029
20 years. Ooh, we’re passing Earth again. Push
01:44:56.029 –> 01:45:05.029
the button! Oh, we’re wasting time. What is your
01:45:05.029 –> 01:45:11.050
weakness? Well… Dum -dum -dum! Never tell the
01:45:11.050 –> 01:45:13.670
villain how to trap you in a cage! You probably
01:45:13.670 –> 01:45:16.560
shouldn’t have helped us build it either. I know,
01:45:16.699 –> 01:45:19.359
dumb! Right, that’s right. We have a tie here
01:45:19.359 –> 01:45:21.899
and we need to determine which one is 84 and
01:45:21.899 –> 01:45:24.579
which one is 83. Let’s call it the Battle of
01:45:24.579 –> 01:45:27.659
the 90s because these both came out in the 90s
01:45:27.659 –> 01:45:29.579
within two years of each other. One of them 1993,
01:45:30.020 –> 01:45:34.579
one of them 1995. One of them was nominated for
01:45:34.579 –> 01:45:37.560
over 11 different awards and did show up on three
01:45:37.560 –> 01:45:39.279
of the nine lists that we looked at. The other
01:45:39.279 –> 01:45:41.680
one was nominated for five awards and showed
01:45:41.680 –> 01:45:44.859
up on five of the nine lists. that we looked
01:45:44.859 –> 01:45:48.939
at. They both were on 15 lists total. One of
01:45:48.939 –> 01:45:52.659
them has risen dramatically. We’re almost talking
01:45:52.659 –> 01:45:56.880
Speed Racer here. This one has come from being
01:45:56.880 –> 01:46:02.300
ranked 289th last time to being in this spot
01:46:02.300 –> 01:46:04.859
where it is now. The other one has actually fallen
01:46:04.859 –> 01:46:11.560
from 57th down to either 83rd or 84th. So one
01:46:11.560 –> 01:46:14.039
with a drop, one with a tremendous rise. It’s
01:46:14.039 –> 01:46:16.659
a battle between the kids WB and Nickelodeon.
01:46:16.680 –> 01:46:18.119
I feel like I know where Steve’s going to go
01:46:18.119 –> 01:46:20.579
with this one. I’m not sure with Mike specifically
01:46:20.579 –> 01:46:25.279
yet, but this is a battle between Rocco’s modern
01:46:25.279 –> 01:46:30.619
life and Freakazoid. Freakazoid all day. Freakazoid.
01:46:31.460 –> 01:46:34.359
Fuck Rocco’s modern life. Freakazoid all day.
01:46:34.979 –> 01:46:38.720
Tell me how you really feel, Mike. he did violent
01:46:38.720 –> 01:46:42.800
they got violent and vulgar there for look look
01:46:42.800 –> 01:46:46.619
Rocco is great Rocco is amazing but Rocco can
01:46:46.619 –> 01:46:50.199
take the lower number it’s fine Rocco’s modern
01:46:50.199 –> 01:46:52.399
life did get more awards like I said 11 to 5
01:46:52.399 –> 01:46:57.939
and was on for more episodes Freakazoid was the
01:46:57.939 –> 01:47:01.260
one that dropped 26 spots it went from 57th last
01:47:01.260 –> 01:47:03.460
time to what looks like it’s going to be 83rd
01:47:03.460 –> 01:47:05.420
this time whereas Rocco’s modern life was trying
01:47:05.420 –> 01:47:09.829
to make the uphill battle from 289th to 84th.
01:47:09.909 –> 01:47:12.930
Steve, what’s your thoughts overall? So, I mean,
01:47:13.029 –> 01:47:16.770
Rocko’s Modern Life was okay. Like, it wasn’t
01:47:16.770 –> 01:47:19.409
one of those shows I enjoyed particularly. And
01:47:19.409 –> 01:47:21.569
again, Nickelodeon was really weird around that
01:47:21.569 –> 01:47:24.229
time. It was, I think, around the time I was
01:47:24.229 –> 01:47:28.430
starting to get out of Nickelodeon. And I more
01:47:28.430 –> 01:47:30.989
so put it on out of just boredom. Never loved
01:47:30.989 –> 01:47:33.109
the animation and the show was kind of bland.
01:47:33.819 –> 01:47:36.079
There really wasn’t a whole lot going on with
01:47:36.079 –> 01:47:41.279
it. While it still has a positive reception,
01:47:41.680 –> 01:47:43.859
we did get a lot of good voice actors out of
01:47:43.859 –> 01:47:49.199
it. Carlos, Alice Rocky, Charlie Adler, Tom Kenny.
01:47:50.140 –> 01:47:53.260
This was basically a pipeline for not just the
01:47:53.260 –> 01:47:56.100
voice actors, but the creators that were involved
01:47:56.100 –> 01:47:58.000
with Rocko’s Modern Life. A lot of them went
01:47:58.000 –> 01:48:00.840
on to be involved with Spongebob. So this was
01:48:00.840 –> 01:48:03.859
kind of like a talent pipeline for SpongeBob
01:48:03.859 –> 01:48:07.600
SquarePants. And I know it was seen as like one
01:48:07.600 –> 01:48:10.359
of the most subversive or satirical shows of
01:48:10.359 –> 01:48:12.560
its time as well. I didn’t grow up watching it.
01:48:13.180 –> 01:48:19.199
So it’s a good show, but it came out around the
01:48:19.199 –> 01:48:21.720
same time as like Angry Beavers and Ren and Stimpy
01:48:21.720 –> 01:48:24.619
and Real Monsters and CatDog and Tablam and Rugrats
01:48:24.619 –> 01:48:27.100
and Doug. And I mean, there was a lot of overlap
01:48:27.100 –> 01:48:29.020
between these. And then that’s about where I
01:48:29.020 –> 01:48:34.270
kind of. got off that ride when, you know, that,
01:48:34.390 –> 01:48:37.890
that era. And so I, while I enjoyed it, I didn’t
01:48:37.890 –> 01:48:42.569
love it. Freakazoid on the other hand, I watched
01:48:42.569 –> 01:48:47.130
that this morning. I love that show. Like I love
01:48:47.130 –> 01:48:51.029
the, the zaniness. I love the song is, is so
01:48:51.029 –> 01:48:55.069
fun. Yeah. The relax. So vision, the, you know,
01:48:55.069 –> 01:48:59.569
at Asner playing Cosgrove and, and, uh, Like,
01:48:59.569 –> 01:49:02.710
hey, Frank, I want to go get ice cream. Oh, hi.
01:49:03.029 –> 01:49:07.050
You know, and or, you know, just all the antics
01:49:07.050 –> 01:49:13.430
you had the lobe, which was. The voice actor
01:49:13.430 –> 01:49:20.310
that plays. Rachel Ghoul. Oh, David Warner. Yeah,
01:49:20.329 –> 01:49:25.250
David Warner’s in it. You have Khan from Star
01:49:25.250 –> 01:49:30.130
Trek in it. As Gutierrez. Ricardo Montalban.
01:49:30.289 –> 01:49:32.590
Yes. Yeah. My brain was space and I was like,
01:49:32.630 –> 01:49:35.409
I know their character. Yeah, I knew you would.
01:49:36.109 –> 01:49:38.750
So anyways, I just love this show. This it’s
01:49:38.750 –> 01:49:42.050
got 100 % rating on Rotten Tomatoes 7 .5 on IMDb.
01:49:42.229 –> 01:49:46.289
It’s. I honestly wish there was more. I’ve heard
01:49:46.289 –> 01:49:49.550
it described as proto adult swim in its tone
01:49:49.550 –> 01:49:54.090
and like early meta. And I think it also is characteristic
01:49:54.090 –> 01:49:57.890
of 90s cartoons with like the chaotic humor.
01:49:58.189 –> 01:50:00.590
I think that was one staple of 90s cartoons was
01:50:00.590 –> 01:50:03.390
just the chaotic nature of it. And as I finish
01:50:03.390 –> 01:50:07.430
my soapbox here, we did talk to Tom Ruger years
01:50:07.430 –> 01:50:10.829
ago. He was involved. Bruce Timm was involved.
01:50:11.029 –> 01:50:13.850
Spielberg, Baldini. A lot of the guys were in
01:50:13.850 –> 01:50:16.229
Batman the Animated Series involvement or Animaniacs
01:50:16.229 –> 01:50:20.310
and things like that. You also had a lot of the
01:50:20.310 –> 01:50:23.630
same crossovers of all of the other shows. Then
01:50:23.630 –> 01:50:26.970
you had… you know joe lay was the the narrator
01:50:26.970 –> 01:50:29.369
like he had a narrator they actually had an episode
01:50:29.369 –> 01:50:35.069
of teen titans go where the villain unearthed
01:50:35.069 –> 01:50:41.590
the lobe yeah and had him you know and they’re
01:50:41.590 –> 01:50:44.989
like we need to get our own you know 1990s uh
01:50:44.989 –> 01:50:47.289
hero to fight fight him and they’re like what
01:50:47.289 –> 01:50:49.489
about you know they start going across the list
01:50:49.489 –> 01:50:52.420
and Like, no, too dark to this to that. And then
01:50:52.420 –> 01:50:54.140
they finally got Freakazoid and open it. And
01:50:54.140 –> 01:50:57.520
he’s, you know, and and then he brought his announcer
01:50:57.520 –> 01:50:59.960
with him. So it was just it was hilarious. So,
01:51:00.039 –> 01:51:03.199
yeah, I love this show. Tom Ruger may or may
01:51:03.199 –> 01:51:05.739
not have rated this one fairly highly. Yeah,
01:51:05.819 –> 01:51:09.979
of course, with good reason. I mean, the man,
01:51:10.060 –> 01:51:17.359
I think I have my information correct here. Either
01:51:17.359 –> 01:51:20.720
created it or produced on it. I’m trying to see
01:51:20.720 –> 01:51:25.659
here. Developed by. Created by Bruce, Tim and
01:51:25.659 –> 01:51:29.479
Paul Dini. So, yeah, I mean, it’s all around.
01:51:29.579 –> 01:51:32.560
Yeah, absolutely. One hundred percent. And I
01:51:32.560 –> 01:51:35.560
love the show. Yeah, the show. And this is one
01:51:35.560 –> 01:51:38.039
of those things where this show debuted September
01:51:38.039 –> 01:51:45.180
9th, 95, like Kevin said. And last season only
01:51:45.180 –> 01:51:51.489
had two seasons. Are you guys sad that it dropped
01:51:51.489 –> 01:51:56.069
from 57 to 83? A little bit, but we have no idea
01:51:56.069 –> 01:51:59.689
what else is coming. Agreed. And I ranked mine
01:51:59.689 –> 01:52:02.750
at 35. It didn’t make the countdown, so it’s
01:52:02.750 –> 01:52:04.729
there. It did. And Rockwell’s Modern Life has
01:52:04.729 –> 01:52:06.210
joined the countdown, which didn’t happen 15
01:52:06.210 –> 01:52:08.329
years ago. So I guess the Nickelodeon fans out
01:52:08.329 –> 01:52:10.590
there should be happy about that. Yeah, exactly.
01:52:11.090 –> 01:52:13.229
So, you know, they’re both here. We just had
01:52:13.229 –> 01:52:15.859
to decide which one goes first. Right. or it
01:52:15.859 –> 01:52:17.920
goes higher, which is, in this case, Freakazoid.
01:52:18.159 –> 01:52:20.359
And, you know, the cool thing about this show
01:52:20.359 –> 01:52:24.439
is it’s basically a kid, Dexter, who is a 16,
01:52:24.560 –> 01:52:28.859
17 -year -old geek. Basically, he draws this
01:52:28.859 –> 01:52:32.500
character. The character comes to life. No, he
01:52:32.500 –> 01:52:34.520
actually punches in a code that was a computer
01:52:34.520 –> 01:52:36.779
blade with the processor, and he gets sucked
01:52:36.779 –> 01:52:40.199
into the computer. Oh, yeah, that’s what it is.
01:52:40.279 –> 01:52:43.909
And then he goes, ah, freak out! That’s right.
01:52:43.989 –> 01:52:45.909
That’s right. Yeah, you’re right. You’re right.
01:52:46.390 –> 01:52:48.609
All right, Mike, can you do me a favor? Yeah.
01:52:49.369 –> 01:52:51.729
Can you go ahead and ring that alarm again? No.
01:52:52.390 –> 01:52:58.149
Because we got another tie coming up. 82. Talk
01:52:58.149 –> 01:53:06.479
about your ultimate rush. Who or what are you?
01:53:06.880 –> 01:53:11.119
I am Synergy, a holographic computer designed
01:53:11.119 –> 01:53:13.659
to be the ultimate audiovisual entertainment
01:53:13.659 –> 01:53:17.680
synthesizer. All right, we have to settle another
01:53:17.680 –> 01:53:22.720
tie between the spots of 82 and 81 here. I guess
01:53:22.720 –> 01:53:24.520
we can call this the last time we had the Battle
01:53:24.520 –> 01:53:26.699
of the 90s. We’ll call this the Battle of Marvel,
01:53:26.859 –> 01:53:29.619
I guess, in a way. But that’s going to not be
01:53:29.619 –> 01:53:31.359
it. That’s not going to seem obvious to y ‘all
01:53:31.359 –> 01:53:34.180
until I go a little bit further. Well, wait,
01:53:34.220 –> 01:53:36.199
before you go any further, I got to say, you
01:53:36.199 –> 01:53:39.520
know, 15 years ago, this would be the end of
01:53:39.520 –> 01:53:44.579
this episode. 15 years ago. Cause last time we
01:53:44.579 –> 01:53:50.119
only did 100 to 81. Oh, we’re, we’re, we pump
01:53:50.119 –> 01:53:53.239
more into these days. So, um, all right. So a
01:53:53.239 –> 01:53:56.020
battle of Marvel in a way roundabout way, these,
01:53:56.140 –> 01:53:59.750
uh, both are tied here with 855 points. One of
01:53:59.750 –> 01:54:02.229
them was on 19 lists, which is the most out of
01:54:02.229 –> 01:54:04.930
any of them today, along with Wacky Races and
01:54:04.930 –> 01:54:07.189
Super Friends. Those are the three that appeared
01:54:07.189 –> 01:54:09.890
on the most lists today. The other one only appeared
01:54:09.890 –> 01:54:12.630
on 12, which is the least amount of lists. So
01:54:12.630 –> 01:54:14.250
we have one that had the most amount of lists
01:54:14.250 –> 01:54:16.909
today, one that had the least. They were both
01:54:16.909 –> 01:54:21.810
on our original top 100. One of them has fallen
01:54:21.810 –> 01:54:25.550
about 26 spots, depending on the outcome of this
01:54:25.550 –> 01:54:28.640
tiebreak. The other has actually one of our two
01:54:28.640 –> 01:54:33.100
shows that has risen. So it is going to be higher
01:54:33.100 –> 01:54:35.899
or more lower ranked, whatever you want to say.
01:54:35.939 –> 01:54:38.119
It’s going to be better ranked than it was last
01:54:38.119 –> 01:54:41.420
time. We’re comparing two different shows, one
01:54:41.420 –> 01:54:45.880
from 2008 and one from, is that right? Our third
01:54:45.880 –> 01:54:51.640
show from 1985. So we are comparing, I don’t
01:54:51.640 –> 01:54:53.619
know how you do this. They are both Marvel in
01:54:53.619 –> 01:54:55.340
a way, but I don’t know how you compare these
01:54:55.340 –> 01:54:58.770
two shows. So we have to decide between the Spectacular
01:54:58.770 –> 01:55:05.449
Spider -Man from 2008 and Jem from 1985. Sunbow.
01:55:05.770 –> 01:55:08.729
Yeah. Marvel slash Sunbow. So that’s what I did
01:55:08.729 –> 01:55:11.649
there. So we have Jem and the Spectacular Spider
01:55:11.649 –> 01:55:13.970
-Man. I’ll go first real quick. A lot of people
01:55:13.970 –> 01:55:16.569
do say that Spectacular Spider -Man is one of
01:55:16.569 –> 01:55:20.369
the best Spider -Man adaptations that has very
01:55:20.369 –> 01:55:23.409
tight storytelling and serialization, some big
01:55:23.409 –> 01:55:26.470
long -term villain arcs. possibly one of the
01:55:26.470 –> 01:55:30.770
best, if not the best Spider -Man show. Gem did
01:55:30.770 –> 01:55:34.529
set some groundwork in a way. You might not think
01:55:34.529 –> 01:55:37.529
it like this, but the female -led, music -driven
01:55:37.529 –> 01:55:40.149
storytelling was not really a thing before that.
01:55:40.210 –> 01:55:42.470
We do get some examples of that throughout time
01:55:42.470 –> 01:55:45.329
after that. Even like Steven Universe more recently
01:55:45.329 –> 01:55:47.149
kind of had a more music -driven storytelling.
01:55:47.229 –> 01:55:49.510
You could make some comparisons to Phineas and
01:55:49.510 –> 01:55:52.409
Ferb in a way. but obviously this is more of
01:55:52.409 –> 01:55:54.869
a female led eighties soap opera, sci -fi glam
01:55:54.869 –> 01:55:57.869
rock. It did have a cult following, but then
01:55:57.869 –> 01:56:00.130
we got to go down the line of, do we value like
01:56:00.130 –> 01:56:02.750
the cult following more or the more universal
01:56:02.750 –> 01:56:05.649
consensus quality and things of that nature?
01:56:05.869 –> 01:56:08.869
Um, it was ahead of its time and format and branding.
01:56:09.329 –> 01:56:11.729
So, uh, Mike, I’ll let you go first spectacular
01:56:11.729 –> 01:56:14.550
Spider -Man or gem. And they were both on our
01:56:14.550 –> 01:56:16.289
countdown last time. They will both be on our
01:56:16.289 –> 01:56:17.649
countdown this time. What are your thoughts?
01:56:22.150 –> 01:56:24.689
As someone who may or may not have hosted a podcast
01:56:24.689 –> 01:56:26.970
that reviewed all of the episodes of Jeff. And
01:56:26.970 –> 01:56:29.229
interviewed the voice actors. Plus the comics.
01:56:29.590 –> 01:56:33.909
And the writer. Well, not just the writer, the
01:56:33.909 –> 01:56:37.430
creator. Literally, Christy Marks, the creator.
01:56:37.670 –> 01:56:38.529
I don’t think you have a choice on this one,
01:56:38.609 –> 01:56:40.229
Mike. I think you have to vote one way or people
01:56:40.229 –> 01:56:41.770
are going to come after you. I know, I know.
01:56:41.850 –> 01:56:46.069
Well, here’s the thing. I’m actually on the Spectacular
01:56:46.069 –> 01:56:48.630
Spider -Man page of Wikipedia. And here’s the
01:56:48.630 –> 01:56:52.289
thing, folks. I have never seen more than three
01:56:52.289 –> 01:56:55.029
episodes of the spectacular Spider -Man because
01:56:55.029 –> 01:56:58.170
I’ve never dedicated the time to checking it
01:56:58.170 –> 01:57:02.470
out. Even though, even though I’ve interviewed
01:57:02.470 –> 01:57:05.710
Josh Keaton, who was the voice of Peter Parker
01:57:05.710 –> 01:57:08.869
slash Spider -Man in that series, I think once
01:57:08.869 –> 01:57:12.970
or twice, maybe I need to go check that series
01:57:12.970 –> 01:57:18.270
out. So yeah, no, my vote for. tiebreaker definitely
01:57:18.270 –> 01:57:21.750
goes jim has to get the higher slot because look
01:57:21.750 –> 01:57:27.770
jim was groundbreaking for 1985 like there were
01:57:27.770 –> 01:57:31.670
there were girls cartoons but there were no girls
01:57:31.670 –> 01:57:37.510
action cartoons these are jim and the holograms
01:57:37.510 –> 01:57:41.770
and the misfits it’s literally the battle of
01:57:41.770 –> 01:57:50.439
the bands you have jim Kimber, Aja, Shana. Who
01:57:50.439 –> 01:57:54.819
am I missing? Kimber, Aja, Shana. Was it Rhea?
01:57:55.319 –> 01:57:58.539
I think that’s five of them. You got Jim and
01:57:58.539 –> 01:58:01.500
the Holograms. You got that band. You got the
01:58:01.500 –> 01:58:04.520
Misfits with Pizazz and Stormer and all them.
01:58:05.039 –> 01:58:08.279
You got them fighting over all this stuff. And
01:58:08.279 –> 01:58:12.039
it’s not just piddly stuff. It’s over music contracts.
01:58:12.340 –> 01:58:15.909
It’s over this. You’ve got… It’s just such
01:58:15.909 –> 01:58:19.609
a great, great, amazing show. And we did a whole
01:58:19.609 –> 01:58:25.130
podcast in 2015 to celebrate the. I think that’s
01:58:25.130 –> 01:58:28.289
30th anniversary. Yeah. 30th anniversary called
01:58:28.289 –> 01:58:30.670
Showtime Synergy here on the Geekcast Radio Network.
01:58:31.170 –> 01:58:33.789
We got a chance to interview Christy Marks. I
01:58:33.789 –> 01:58:35.550
think we’ve interviewed her like two or three
01:58:35.550 –> 01:58:37.810
times, but we got a chance to interview her that
01:58:37.810 –> 01:58:40.470
for the first time. Maybe that actually, no,
01:58:40.510 –> 01:58:44.430
that was the second time. No, it wasn’t. we did
01:58:44.430 –> 01:58:47.590
it for beast wars i think i thought it was the
01:58:47.590 –> 01:58:52.670
same trip so i the point is my vote goes jim
01:58:52.670 –> 01:58:56.149
first and then spider -man second all right so
01:58:56.149 –> 01:58:58.050
i will say one thing i understand what your point
01:58:58.050 –> 01:59:00.329
was as far as girls cartoons in the 80s because
01:59:00.329 –> 01:59:01.829
we did have a lot of rainbow bright strawberry
01:59:01.829 –> 01:59:06.590
shortcake and things of that nature i have to
01:59:06.590 –> 01:59:08.810
correct you before we get axes thrown at us because
01:59:08.810 –> 01:59:11.710
you said that it was the first female action
01:59:11.710 –> 01:59:15.029
cartoon and uh you may have been forgetting another
01:59:15.029 –> 01:59:18.569
1985 series called shira that also uh was in
01:59:18.569 –> 01:59:22.869
existence at this point so okay but yes no i
01:59:22.869 –> 01:59:26.590
want you to get hurt as as okay october september
01:59:26.590 –> 01:59:29.810
they were out at the same time okay yes it wasn’t
01:59:29.810 –> 01:59:34.210
the first but it was the there’s a difference
01:59:34.210 –> 01:59:39.949
what i mean by the first female -led action cartoon
01:59:39.949 –> 01:59:48.369
shira is fantasy it’s i don’t know it also kind
01:59:48.369 –> 01:59:50.869
of dogpiles on he -man whereas this is kind of
01:59:50.869 –> 01:59:53.670
standalone right i’m just saying you said you
01:59:53.670 –> 01:59:55.710
said female action and shira will be the thing
01:59:55.710 –> 01:59:58.090
that comes to most people’s mind fine i get it
01:59:58.090 –> 02:00:00.689
i i compare it more to like a precursor it’s
02:00:00.689 –> 02:00:03.069
like an 80s cartoon musical version of like beverly
02:00:03.069 –> 02:00:05.720
hills 90210 or Melrose Place, or something like
02:00:05.720 –> 02:00:09.800
that. Yeah, what I mean by it is real world.
02:00:10.279 –> 02:00:12.420
Okay. Steve, where are you falling on this debate?
02:00:14.960 –> 02:00:20.060
I’m falling on Spider -Man. Well, I mean, you
02:00:20.060 –> 02:00:23.319
gotta figure too, like, Jem was not my target
02:00:23.319 –> 02:00:25.699
audience, didn’t grow up with it, and also…
02:00:25.699 –> 02:00:28.539
Weren’t even born when it was released. Well,
02:00:28.619 –> 02:00:34.619
whatever. That being said… It’s not it’s not
02:00:34.619 –> 02:00:37.319
a show that even I I don’t even care for it.
02:00:39.619 –> 02:00:43.920
On on the now, like watching it for free, like
02:00:43.920 –> 02:00:46.939
Spider -Man, like I feel like is more universal
02:00:46.939 –> 02:00:50.520
or more universally watched, and especially this
02:00:50.520 –> 02:00:53.859
show, because it was also kind of geared towards
02:00:53.859 –> 02:00:58.140
the young, the new viewers, older viewers. It
02:00:58.140 –> 02:01:00.140
kind of played in all the realms, kind of similar
02:01:00.140 –> 02:01:03.939
to a lot of other Spider -Man series. And then
02:01:03.939 –> 02:01:10.300
again, you kind of have some of the same people
02:01:10.300 –> 02:01:13.439
involved that that later did like Young Justice.
02:01:13.520 –> 02:01:18.819
And so I’m going with this like it’s just more
02:01:18.819 –> 02:01:22.340
enjoyable. It’s more of a different flavor of
02:01:22.340 –> 02:01:28.380
the. Spider -Man, the animated series show, though.
02:01:29.000 –> 02:01:31.899
Out of the ones that followed after that, this
02:01:31.899 –> 02:01:36.359
is probably my favorite. You guys forced me into
02:01:36.359 –> 02:01:38.840
a tiebreaker vote here since you both went one
02:01:38.840 –> 02:01:41.600
way and the other. And I will do a cop -out here,
02:01:41.680 –> 02:01:45.420
I guess. I don’t necessarily have a dog in the
02:01:45.420 –> 02:01:48.600
race for either one. I think it’s good that they
02:01:48.600 –> 02:01:52.680
both are represented. Obviously, Spectacular
02:01:52.680 –> 02:01:57.079
Spider -Man has fallen from 56th last time. and
02:01:57.079 –> 02:01:59.300
now and which was fairly you know is somewhat
02:01:59.300 –> 02:02:01.859
modern when we came out with it last time it
02:02:01.859 –> 02:02:05.739
just fairly new so it has fallen from 56 into
02:02:05.739 –> 02:02:10.260
the 80s whereas gem is going to rise from 87th
02:02:10.260 –> 02:02:13.399
to either 82nd or 81st so a small rise of six
02:02:13.399 –> 02:02:16.640
spots or so um depending on this so i think my
02:02:16.640 –> 02:02:18.140
cop -out though and the way i’m going to do this
02:02:18.140 –> 02:02:20.020
without having to make an informed decision on
02:02:20.020 –> 02:02:23.500
either one is and i’m not going to peruse the
02:02:23.500 –> 02:02:26.470
list to see what is and what’s not going to show
02:02:26.470 –> 02:02:29.590
i haven’t memorized it yet but i know last time
02:02:29.590 –> 02:02:32.090
when we did this list 15 years ago that we had
02:02:32.090 –> 02:02:35.109
like at least four spider -man entries in the
02:02:35.109 –> 02:02:38.949
top 100 so i’m gonna say that like there’s a
02:02:38.949 –> 02:02:40.470
chance that we’re gonna have some more spider
02:02:40.470 –> 02:02:43.789
-man so i’m gonna give the vote for gem just
02:02:43.789 –> 02:02:48.050
because of that so i think spider -man there
02:02:48.050 –> 02:02:50.050
may be more entries gem there will not be it’s
02:02:50.050 –> 02:02:53.279
the only it’s the only show yeah I’ll go that
02:02:53.279 –> 02:02:57.119
way, I guess. But I don’t have a direct opinion
02:02:57.119 –> 02:02:58.960
on which one is better than the other. I have
02:02:58.960 –> 02:03:00.659
not watched either one extensively enough to
02:03:00.659 –> 02:03:04.619
make that opinion. So, all right. So we’ll go
02:03:04.619 –> 02:03:07.079
with Spectacular Spider -Man at 82, Gem at 81,
02:03:07.340 –> 02:03:11.060
which takes us to our next entrant, which is
02:03:11.060 –> 02:03:13.420
going to be our third time visiting the last
02:03:13.420 –> 02:03:18.579
15 years. That was a 2 ,000 -year -old historical
02:03:18.579 –> 02:03:22.140
treasure. Whoops. All right. Another chance to
02:03:22.140 –> 02:03:24.439
talk about a, I guess, quote unquote, more modern
02:03:24.439 –> 02:03:27.960
show that appeared in the last time bracket that
02:03:27.960 –> 02:03:31.560
we were considering. So our number 80 pick, going
02:03:31.560 –> 02:03:33.420
back to Nickelodeon. We’ve said that name a lot
02:03:33.420 –> 02:03:36.560
today, actually. So we’ve had Nickelodeon representation
02:03:36.560 –> 02:03:39.520
with Danger Mouse, Invader Zim, and Rocko’s Modern
02:03:39.520 –> 02:03:41.260
Life. We’re going to do that once again here
02:03:41.260 –> 02:03:45.479
with number 80 from 2012. The highly acclaimed,
02:03:45.479 –> 02:03:49.319
yet sometimes controversial, The Legend of Korra.
02:03:51.200 –> 02:03:54.819
spinoff or extended version of avatar the last
02:03:54.819 –> 02:03:58.060
airbender expands avatar into some more politics
02:03:58.060 –> 02:04:00.859
and things like that i know it tackles some more
02:04:00.859 –> 02:04:04.100
deep content like trauma and things of that nature
02:04:04.100 –> 02:04:05.739
i know it’s debated though so i think we’ll get
02:04:05.739 –> 02:04:08.159
people on both sides of the fence that say either
02:04:08.159 –> 02:04:10.140
we should have this higher or we shouldn’t have
02:04:10.140 –> 02:04:12.460
it ranked at all we obviously did not rank it
02:04:12.460 –> 02:04:14.979
last time since it didn’t really exist this time
02:04:14.979 –> 02:04:17.420
we’re ranking it at number 80 mike what do you
02:04:17.420 –> 02:04:22.770
think of the legend of korra When did this release?
02:04:23.149 –> 02:04:28.430
2012. I tried watching this at the time, and
02:04:28.430 –> 02:04:32.229
I couldn’t get into it. It is nominated for more
02:04:32.229 –> 02:04:34.029
awards than any show we’ll talk about today.
02:04:34.109 –> 02:04:37.010
It has over 16 nominations for different awards.
02:04:37.390 –> 02:04:41.970
Yeah. I did actually try watching this. I think
02:04:41.970 –> 02:04:44.270
I got through maybe one and a half episodes,
02:04:44.369 –> 02:04:49.689
and it just wasn’t my thing. Steve, what do you
02:04:49.689 –> 02:04:55.890
think? I did watch and while the animation is
02:04:55.890 –> 02:04:57.750
great and the voice acting is great, I don’t
02:04:57.750 –> 02:05:02.130
think I really understood it enough to continue
02:05:02.130 –> 02:05:07.789
with it. It is on Paramount and some of the other
02:05:07.789 –> 02:05:12.609
different platforms at this point. But it’s I
02:05:12.609 –> 02:05:16.750
had to like I didn’t recall that it was a continuation
02:05:16.750 –> 02:05:18.810
of Avatar, even though I knew it was kind of
02:05:18.810 –> 02:05:23.619
the same universe. And it’s set 70 years after
02:05:23.619 –> 02:05:29.000
Avatar, the last airbender. So I think that’s
02:05:29.000 –> 02:05:30.899
part of why I didn’t really understand it was
02:05:30.899 –> 02:05:33.039
because I didn’t have the backstory of the original.
02:05:33.140 –> 02:05:35.760
And I, I did watch part of the original, but
02:05:35.760 –> 02:05:40.220
I think again, it just kind of came down to just
02:05:40.220 –> 02:05:43.060
wasn’t something that totally resonated. And
02:05:43.060 –> 02:05:45.079
maybe I just need to go back and rewatch. I don’t
02:05:45.079 –> 02:05:49.399
know. But based on the little bit I’ve seen,
02:05:50.189 –> 02:05:53.310
I could see where people would find it good.
02:05:53.409 –> 02:05:55.689
And especially when we have a plethora of shows
02:05:55.689 –> 02:05:59.609
that came out after 2012 that had kind of an
02:05:59.609 –> 02:06:02.810
art style that I’ll just say that I totally dislike
02:06:02.810 –> 02:06:06.850
more than some of the Nintendo or the Nickelodeon
02:06:06.850 –> 02:06:11.949
content prior to this. So I think we were at
02:06:11.949 –> 02:06:15.409
like peak Nickelodeon animation here in 2012
02:06:15.409 –> 02:06:17.729
between this and like Turtles and some of the
02:06:17.729 –> 02:06:20.100
other shows that kind of showed up. So I can
02:06:20.100 –> 02:06:22.840
see it being here. It’s not one that I personally
02:06:22.840 –> 02:06:26.300
listed. It feels like an interesting one, too,
02:06:26.359 –> 02:06:28.380
because I know there’s a ton of Avatar The Last
02:06:28.380 –> 02:06:32.300
Airbender fans following on that. But it seems
02:06:32.300 –> 02:06:33.800
like it’s a little split then when it comes to
02:06:33.800 –> 02:06:36.979
Legend of Korra. Some of them are just rabid
02:06:36.979 –> 02:06:39.039
fans of both, and I feel like some of them are
02:06:39.039 –> 02:06:42.140
more fans of Avatar versus Legend of Korra and
02:06:42.140 –> 02:06:45.399
vice versa. It’s always interesting to hear people’s
02:06:45.399 –> 02:06:47.180
take on Legend of Korra. I have not watched either
02:06:47.180 –> 02:06:50.170
one. extensively enough to like making a super
02:06:50.170 –> 02:06:54.050
well -informed opinion i do think there may be
02:06:54.050 –> 02:06:55.930
a few people that should that will say it should
02:06:55.930 –> 02:06:59.210
be higher on our list but i think i’m fine with
02:06:59.210 –> 02:07:02.609
it being on our list i don’t have a well -informed
02:07:02.609 –> 02:07:05.390
opinion of where exactly it should be but i i
02:07:05.390 –> 02:07:07.729
feel like it representation is probably warranted
02:07:07.729 –> 02:07:13.050
so all right that takes us into our the next
02:07:13.050 –> 02:07:15.390
entry that will be in part of our top 80 let’s
02:07:15.390 –> 02:07:27.300
see where we go next We haven’t had a ton of
02:07:27.300 –> 02:07:32.300
shows yet from the WB. We talked about Freakazoid
02:07:32.300 –> 02:07:34.640
a little bit here, and this one technically is
02:07:34.640 –> 02:07:37.500
from Warner Brothers and I believe debuted on
02:07:37.500 –> 02:07:41.300
the Cartoon Network from 2008. Let’s get our
02:07:41.300 –> 02:07:45.539
second, I believe our second DC cartoon here.
02:07:46.319 –> 02:07:51.020
it fell from 71 last time 15 years ago to 79
02:07:51.020 –> 02:07:53.520
so it dropped eight spots not a huge drop but
02:07:53.520 –> 02:07:56.880
a small drop here for batman the brave and the
02:07:56.880 –> 02:08:00.920
bold what do you think of batman the brave and
02:08:00.920 –> 02:08:06.340
the bold being here at number 79 there are two
02:08:06.340 –> 02:08:11.380
things that i love about this show the batman
02:08:11.380 –> 02:08:14.359
of xur and r which is where kevin conroy guest
02:08:14.359 –> 02:08:22.829
starred and then um peewee paul rubens as batmite
02:08:22.829 –> 02:08:27.550
and then that’s it i know it’s obviously a i
02:08:27.550 –> 02:08:30.409
believe a lot it’s a lighter take on on yeah
02:08:30.409 –> 02:08:33.210
compared to a lot of the gritty stuff which i
02:08:33.210 –> 02:08:36.050
think appealed to some folks um i think a lot
02:08:36.050 –> 02:08:37.670
of other folks say it’s like kind of like super
02:08:37.670 –> 02:08:39.170
friends where it could serve as like an introduction
02:08:39.170 –> 02:08:42.590
into the dc shows for people steve what do you
02:08:42.590 –> 02:08:44.680
think of batman the brave and the bold I don’t
02:08:44.680 –> 02:08:46.460
know. I mean, it’s it’s got a pretty good rating
02:08:46.460 –> 02:08:50.960
on like Rotten Tomatoes and IMDb. I found. This
02:08:50.960 –> 02:08:55.260
one is because I think around this time. I was
02:08:55.260 –> 02:09:00.840
getting some of the DVDs to review from Warner
02:09:00.840 –> 02:09:06.420
Brothers and. It may have been shortly after
02:09:06.420 –> 02:09:10.100
this, but this was kind of the gateway show that
02:09:10.100 –> 02:09:15.010
I showed my kids. OK. Because it was a lighter
02:09:15.010 –> 02:09:19.550
tone, but it still kind of gave the vibe. I feel
02:09:19.550 –> 02:09:21.989
like it kind of mixed some of the animated series
02:09:21.989 –> 02:09:25.050
with the 60s hokiness of the Adam West Batman.
02:09:25.489 –> 02:09:27.829
Yeah, very much so. And so you kind of got this
02:09:27.829 –> 02:09:33.149
nice mesh of the two. And it kind of had a retro
02:09:33.149 –> 02:09:35.949
vibe to it, but it was fun. And it was kind of
02:09:35.949 –> 02:09:39.170
like a Super Friends because Batman and his amazing
02:09:39.170 –> 02:09:43.800
friends. He constantly had other people showing
02:09:43.800 –> 02:09:48.359
up and guest starring on his show. And so I feel
02:09:48.359 –> 02:09:52.579
like this. I feel like the fact that it’s on
02:09:52.579 –> 02:09:57.439
here is great. Yeah, it’s not in the same positioning,
02:09:57.539 –> 02:10:00.420
but it’s in the same realm, which goes to show
02:10:00.420 –> 02:10:02.500
that it’s still deserving of being in that same
02:10:02.500 –> 02:10:05.600
bracket, even though it dropped. And there’s
02:10:05.600 –> 02:10:07.140
been other shows that have come out since. So,
02:10:07.140 –> 02:10:11.159
I mean, I can see why it would drop like. myself
02:10:11.159 –> 02:10:14.380
i had it in the 20s and both my kids had it somewhere
02:10:14.380 –> 02:10:17.319
in the 20s i think and then so i mean that’s
02:10:17.319 –> 02:10:20.539
probably part of where it’s at but also always
02:10:20.539 –> 02:10:22.739
adds to that interesting debate between like
02:10:22.739 –> 02:10:25.779
a franchise like how many spots does someone
02:10:25.779 –> 02:10:29.319
have for a specific franchise right or hero or
02:10:29.319 –> 02:10:31.279
a superhero or whatever it might be like do you
02:10:31.279 –> 02:10:34.140
only have room for one show from this franchise
02:10:34.140 –> 02:10:35.579
do you have room for two do you have room for
02:10:35.579 –> 02:10:37.640
three you know how many batman shows will you
02:10:37.640 –> 02:10:39.810
give a spot to And I think some people pick just
02:10:39.810 –> 02:10:41.609
one. Some people are willing to pick more based
02:10:41.609 –> 02:10:43.390
on the quality. So it always is an interesting
02:10:43.390 –> 02:10:46.430
thing to try to get inside people’s heads on
02:10:46.430 –> 02:10:49.890
how they treat that overall. But I think, you
02:10:49.890 –> 02:10:53.210
know, it’s 71 and now 79. It’s stayed pretty
02:10:53.210 –> 02:10:55.869
close to the same spot. So like you said, it
02:10:55.869 –> 02:10:57.970
has some consistency and staying power, I guess
02:10:57.970 –> 02:10:59.789
you could say. All right. Next up, we’re going
02:10:59.789 –> 02:11:03.090
to go to our second most modern show on the entire
02:11:03.090 –> 02:11:07.100
countdown. 78. Come on. Knock it off, Todd. I
02:11:07.100 –> 02:11:08.760
think Amber’s been pretty clear about how she
02:11:08.760 –> 02:11:13.380
feels. I’m nothing like my dad. So we already
02:11:13.380 –> 02:11:16.560
had X -Men 97, which was from 2024. We’re going
02:11:16.560 –> 02:11:18.760
to go back a couple years earlier than that to
02:11:18.760 –> 02:11:22.039
our second most recent show here. This one is
02:11:22.039 –> 02:11:26.300
from 2021. You could see it on Amazon Prime.
02:11:26.960 –> 02:11:29.079
Speaking of channels, I guess we’ll just go with
02:11:29.079 –> 02:11:30.659
the streaming network as it was. Obviously, it
02:11:30.659 –> 02:11:32.739
wasn’t ranked last time around. We’re going with…
02:11:33.100 –> 02:11:35.939
I guess another superhero show, so to speak with
02:11:35.939 –> 02:11:40.159
invincible here at number 78 adult superhero
02:11:40.159 –> 02:11:43.239
animation, almost on a prestige level, definitely
02:11:43.239 –> 02:11:46.199
subverting some Marvel and DC comic tropes, a
02:11:46.199 –> 02:11:48.520
lot of shock value, things of that nature kind
02:11:48.520 –> 02:11:51.920
of use more like a comic arc than a episodic
02:11:51.920 –> 02:11:54.579
TV show. So I think we’ll get a little bit of
02:11:54.579 –> 02:11:59.020
the same people that comment on X -Men 97 may
02:11:59.020 –> 02:12:01.300
have similar comments on this one. Like, is it
02:12:01.300 –> 02:12:03.840
too recent to be on here? Or is the quality good
02:12:03.840 –> 02:12:05.619
enough where it warrants it? Is there recency
02:12:05.619 –> 02:12:07.060
bias? All those different things will come into
02:12:07.060 –> 02:12:09.079
play. Mike, what do you think of Invincible being
02:12:09.079 –> 02:12:12.420
here at number 78? So I’ve never read the comic
02:12:12.420 –> 02:12:14.960
and I’ve never watched the show. I’ve heard nothing
02:12:14.960 –> 02:12:20.239
but good things about the show. I’ve heard people
02:12:20.239 –> 02:12:23.439
say nothing but mixed things about the comic.
02:12:23.880 –> 02:12:28.579
Now, Robert Kirkman is someone I have been reading
02:12:28.579 –> 02:12:34.789
comics from because he is. the main creator behind
02:12:34.789 –> 02:12:37.890
the Energon universe, which has Transformers,
02:12:37.890 –> 02:12:41.149
G .I. Joe, Void Rivals, and now it’ll have Mask
02:12:41.149 –> 02:12:44.050
coming up here in June with the launch of Mask.
02:12:44.789 –> 02:12:48.949
He did create Invincible, I believe, off the
02:12:48.949 –> 02:12:55.510
top of my head. Yep. And this is, you know, developed
02:12:55.510 –> 02:12:59.760
by him and everything else, but I just… This
02:12:59.760 –> 02:13:02.119
is another one that is not on my radar because
02:13:02.119 –> 02:13:07.720
I never really got into the original source material.
02:13:08.100 –> 02:13:14.659
And I don’t know. It just doesn’t. Again, I use
02:13:14.659 –> 02:13:17.460
trailers because that’s what trailers are for.
02:13:17.640 –> 02:13:20.779
They’re advertisements. You either watch them
02:13:20.779 –> 02:13:22.640
or you don’t watch them. But when you watch them,
02:13:22.659 –> 02:13:25.880
you either like the thing or you don’t. And when
02:13:25.880 –> 02:13:27.739
I looked at it, I’m like, yeah, that’s not for
02:13:27.739 –> 02:13:33.069
me. i’ve never actually again doing all the research
02:13:33.069 –> 02:13:36.170
doing for this thing it’s like whoops missed
02:13:36.170 –> 02:13:39.250
it i mean i i think this is not one that’s going
02:13:39.250 –> 02:13:40.689
to be for everybody i don’t think you would like
02:13:40.689 –> 02:13:42.729
this one mike just because i have other similar
02:13:42.729 –> 02:13:44.369
things that it reminds me of that i know you
02:13:44.369 –> 02:13:47.250
don’t like um i watched the first few episodes
02:13:47.250 –> 02:13:49.430
of it and it was definitely enough that if i
02:13:49.430 –> 02:13:51.510
have time at some point i would go back and watch
02:13:51.510 –> 02:13:54.489
it in full because i think it is very high quality
02:13:54.489 –> 02:13:56.350
as far as like how it’s made and it seems like
02:13:56.350 –> 02:13:58.630
it’s got some crazy stuff and a lot of shock
02:13:58.909 –> 02:14:00.449
value that definitely does go into it so i’m
02:14:00.449 –> 02:14:01.970
intrigued to see like what all they do with it
02:14:01.970 –> 02:14:04.069
but again i’ve only watched the first few episodes
02:14:04.069 –> 02:14:06.729
but i do know it’s got a lot of love from people
02:14:06.729 –> 02:14:09.590
in the last five years um so i’m not surprised
02:14:09.590 –> 02:14:13.229
that there was uh 15 people that decided to put
02:14:13.229 –> 02:14:15.729
it on their list steve what do you think really
02:14:15.729 –> 02:14:18.270
quick before steve goes i will say you would
02:14:18.270 –> 02:14:22.489
think that having uh jk simmons in this would
02:14:22.489 –> 02:14:27.500
get me but it just didn’t unfortunately All of
02:14:27.500 –> 02:14:32.000
the clips I’ve seen of this and the few episodes
02:14:32.000 –> 02:14:35.460
I’ve watched, I did not get into this, didn’t
02:14:35.460 –> 02:14:39.479
care for it. Now, the funny thing is, over the
02:14:39.479 –> 02:14:47.859
last week, Rob Liefeld has created a storm on
02:14:47.859 –> 02:14:51.739
social media. Like he does. Deadpool creator,
02:14:51.960 –> 02:14:57.949
because he said… that like he stirred the pot
02:14:57.949 –> 02:15:02.170
more or less because um he says i love invincible
02:15:02.170 –> 02:15:04.550
it’s a fantastic show deserving of all of its
02:15:04.550 –> 02:15:07.609
incredible successes batman the animated series
02:15:07.609 –> 02:15:10.909
is the king of the hill you know aspirational
02:15:10.909 –> 02:15:18.989
work you know and uh btas has actually won emmys
02:15:18.989 –> 02:15:29.539
too And what’s funny is the, the just sheer comments
02:15:29.539 –> 02:15:35.180
on all of the social posts are hilarious because
02:15:35.180 –> 02:15:38.039
everybody is like pretty much in agreements with,
02:15:38.060 –> 02:15:42.100
with his comment. And, you know, aside from the
02:15:42.100 –> 02:15:43.819
fact, you know, some people are like, it’s different
02:15:43.819 –> 02:15:47.279
shows. It’s, you know, as good as it is, it’s
02:15:47.279 –> 02:15:50.500
not even close. Um, you know, cause Batman had,
02:15:50.920 –> 02:15:58.520
the Emmys and everything else. But yeah, he more
02:15:58.520 –> 02:16:01.939
or less said that you’re dumb if you’re saying
02:16:01.939 –> 02:16:06.380
that BTAS is better than Invincible. And just
02:16:06.380 –> 02:16:09.460
based on what I’ve seen, I kind of agree. I think
02:16:09.460 –> 02:16:11.460
that it’s great for those that are looking for
02:16:11.460 –> 02:16:14.960
that new edgy style of superhero type thing,
02:16:15.060 –> 02:16:19.560
even if some of it’s kind of the anti -hero.
02:16:20.090 –> 02:16:25.069
situations and it’s very violent it is for sure
02:16:25.069 –> 02:16:28.270
that but I think that Batman the animated series
02:16:28.270 –> 02:16:30.649
is a better show in that instance so in that
02:16:30.649 –> 02:16:33.829
instance like I will say that Amazon has done
02:16:33.829 –> 02:16:35.670
well for themselves with this being an original
02:16:35.670 –> 02:16:39.489
series and focusing on you know something entirely
02:16:39.489 –> 02:16:43.989
different in the superhero realm than what others
02:16:43.989 –> 02:16:51.329
have done both of them I can see having the notoriety
02:16:51.329 –> 02:16:54.809
based on who was introduced to it uh comparatively
02:16:54.809 –> 02:17:01.629
but i i feel like the majority of it is not going
02:17:01.629 –> 02:17:04.209
like in the long term i feel like it’ll be forgotten
02:17:04.209 –> 02:17:08.389
but again that you know time will tell because
02:17:08.389 –> 02:17:10.329
we’ve also got shows that have been there since
02:17:10.329 –> 02:17:12.790
the 60s that are still on our list so who knows
02:17:12.790 –> 02:17:16.010
but i i think for right now it fits on the list
02:17:16.520 –> 02:17:18.959
yeah we’ll have to see what time uh does to this
02:17:18.959 –> 02:17:20.379
one one way or the other i would have to watch
02:17:20.379 –> 02:17:22.420
more to give like a i would never compare it
02:17:22.420 –> 02:17:24.079
to batman the animated series in any way because
02:17:24.079 –> 02:17:25.540
i feel like it’s a different style different
02:17:25.540 –> 02:17:29.139
going for something different so i yeah i don’t
02:17:29.139 –> 02:17:32.299
even know how that was smart so it it was just
02:17:32.299 –> 02:17:35.260
interesting right so we’ll have to see how that
02:17:35.260 –> 02:17:37.620
how time plays a trick with invincible maybe
02:17:37.620 –> 02:17:40.059
15 years from now it would be different we’ll
02:17:40.059 –> 02:17:41.879
have to wait and see so i only got room for two
02:17:41.879 –> 02:17:45.049
more on this episode of our top 100 so We’ll
02:17:45.049 –> 02:17:46.850
get back to one of those final picks for today.
02:17:47.510 –> 02:17:55.430
77. All right, we’re going to go back to the
02:17:55.430 –> 02:17:58.729
80s from a cartoon from Ruby Spears. This is
02:17:58.729 –> 02:18:02.010
our second largest drop in our countdown. Now,
02:18:02.010 –> 02:18:03.649
I’m not considering shows that dropped all the
02:18:03.649 –> 02:18:05.049
way out because I didn’t do the math for how
02:18:05.049 –> 02:18:06.670
much those dropped, the ones that fell out of
02:18:06.670 –> 02:18:09.290
our countdown. But for those that actually made
02:18:09.290 –> 02:18:11.030
the countdown, we had Super Friends, which dropped
02:18:11.030 –> 02:18:15.950
52 spots. Next one has dropped 46. Those are
02:18:15.950 –> 02:18:18.170
the two biggest drops of the entire countdown.
02:18:18.530 –> 02:18:22.649
So it’s going to go from 32 all the way to 77.
02:18:23.530 –> 02:18:26.250
We’re talking about the NBC series from 1983,
02:18:26.709 –> 02:18:30.670
Alvin and the Chipmunks. So Alvin and the Chipmunks
02:18:30.670 –> 02:18:33.430
with a gigantic drop, but it still remains in
02:18:33.430 –> 02:18:37.319
the top 100 coming in here at number 77. Mike,
02:18:37.379 –> 02:18:38.799
what do you think of Alvin and the Chipmunks?
02:18:38.860 –> 02:18:40.659
It appeared on five of the nine lists we looked
02:18:40.659 –> 02:18:42.879
at, but it has dropped in the last 15 years,
02:18:42.899 –> 02:18:46.319
according to us. The show was crazy good at the
02:18:46.319 –> 02:18:54.860
time. And wow, this is eight seasons. Yeah, I
02:18:54.860 –> 02:19:01.239
don’t know. I remember watching it and I think
02:19:01.239 –> 02:19:07.180
it is good. I don’t know if it’s. this high of
02:19:07.180 –> 02:19:11.440
a spot good we had a we had a rank 32nd last
02:19:11.440 –> 02:19:15.260
time yeah i don’t know what the hell we wanted
02:19:15.260 –> 02:19:18.000
you wanted it to drop more than 50 spots yeah
02:19:18.000 –> 02:19:22.040
i know i mean for me this is the reason i ranked
02:19:22.040 –> 02:19:24.860
this pretty high i ranked this uh 57 last time
02:19:24.860 –> 02:19:27.500
or this time i mean i ranked a 57 so i did have
02:19:27.500 –> 02:19:30.340
it on this side of the 50s but uh unlike last
02:19:30.340 –> 02:19:32.620
time where we had it on the upside of the 50s
02:19:32.620 –> 02:19:35.139
but I think the thing for me is it’s, it’s very
02:19:35.139 –> 02:19:37.879
unique in an early show that really capitalized
02:19:37.879 –> 02:19:41.020
on all of the different, like, I guess you could
02:19:41.020 –> 02:19:43.420
call it like a full ecosystem for its franchise.
02:19:43.479 –> 02:19:46.700
Like it had the cartoon, it had the records or
02:19:46.700 –> 02:19:48.639
the tapes or the different things that had like
02:19:48.639 –> 02:19:51.020
the merchandise that had like, it was a massive
02:19:51.020 –> 02:19:54.659
multimedia brand in a way that no, almost nothing
02:19:54.659 –> 02:19:57.899
else before that had been, you know, with the
02:19:57.899 –> 02:20:00.059
music, with the animation, with all the different
02:20:00.059 –> 02:20:04.109
things and longevity, like I think proves, how
02:20:04.109 –> 02:20:07.889
cultural appeal has lasted with it. Like we’ve
02:20:07.889 –> 02:20:10.649
had multiple live action movies that have come
02:20:10.649 –> 02:20:13.110
out from it. Like people know who Alvin and the
02:20:13.110 –> 02:20:16.590
chipmunks are, you know, the music and like some
02:20:16.590 –> 02:20:19.549
of their albums, like are classic when it comes
02:20:19.549 –> 02:20:22.309
to the way they did the voices, the bag, the
02:20:22.309 –> 02:20:24.389
Zarians, like how they, you know, did the speed
02:20:24.389 –> 02:20:26.250
up of the voices and everything like that. Like,
02:20:26.250 –> 02:20:29.209
is there a nostalgia factor to it? Maybe a little
02:20:29.209 –> 02:20:32.629
bit, but I think just from, its uniqueness at
02:20:32.629 –> 02:20:34.250
the time like what else do you compare this to
02:20:34.250 –> 02:20:36.569
from the 80s or from almost any generation i
02:20:36.569 –> 02:20:38.750
don’t know if there’s a comparable show there
02:20:38.750 –> 02:20:41.989
isn’t so like for me that that’s why i had it
02:20:41.989 –> 02:20:44.149
ranked number 57 am i sad that it comes in here
02:20:44.149 –> 02:20:46.889
77 no i think it’s fine i don’t think it necessarily
02:20:46.889 –> 02:20:49.930
i’m shocked it dropped almost 50 spots but i’m
02:20:49.930 –> 02:20:52.229
not necessarily upset i do think it warrants
02:20:52.229 –> 02:20:55.149
a top 100 spot though yeah i think it warrants
02:20:55.149 –> 02:20:58.110
a spot i was just trying to think of some like
02:20:58.110 –> 02:21:02.709
you wanted it to drop four spots right like maybe
02:21:02.709 –> 02:21:06.129
a little like three more spots probably wanted
02:21:06.129 –> 02:21:08.510
to drop six spots so that it could be 83 and
02:21:08.510 –> 02:21:11.790
it came out in 1983 well you know that’s me and
02:21:11.790 –> 02:21:14.829
my numbers but no but i mean like i was trying
02:21:14.829 –> 02:21:17.790
to think of trying to think of the brand is what’s
02:21:17.790 –> 02:21:21.110
wrong here yeah no exactly but i was trying to
02:21:21.110 –> 02:21:24.750
think of is there another something else that
02:21:24.750 –> 02:21:27.790
i was watching at the same time that i was watching
02:21:27.790 –> 02:21:33.639
like heathcliff garfield and top cat or you know
02:21:33.639 –> 02:21:36.180
something like that i was watching inspector
02:21:36.180 –> 02:21:39.280
gadget and muppet babies and uh everything else
02:21:39.280 –> 02:21:42.940
that appeared in the early 1980s yeah but like
02:21:42.940 –> 02:21:45.040
that’s what i’m saying like i was trying to think
02:21:45.040 –> 02:21:47.360
if there was another similar thing and sadly
02:21:47.360 –> 02:21:50.440
and this is going to be strange as hell the only
02:21:50.440 –> 02:21:53.459
thing i can compare alvin to is jim and the holograms
02:21:53.459 –> 02:21:56.559
because there we go all right the music let’s
02:21:56.559 –> 02:22:00.809
move on to steve yeah I kind of agree with everything
02:22:00.809 –> 02:22:05.049
you guys have said so far on that front. I don’t
02:22:05.049 –> 02:22:07.129
really have anything else to add here, although
02:22:07.129 –> 02:22:11.549
I did enjoy the show. I feel like it kind of
02:22:11.549 –> 02:22:14.690
peaked with the movies and then it kind of faded
02:22:14.690 –> 02:22:17.170
out again. Yeah, I can see that. I’m surprised
02:22:17.170 –> 02:22:20.590
it hasn’t been… Has there been one new series?
02:22:21.770 –> 02:22:23.709
I don’t know. I’d have to check to see if there’s
02:22:23.709 –> 02:22:25.309
been any reboots. I’m surprised if there hasn’t
02:22:25.309 –> 02:22:27.180
been. Because you feel like from an animation
02:22:27.180 –> 02:22:29.959
standpoint, this would probably work again at
02:22:29.959 –> 02:22:32.459
some point from a series versus a live action
02:22:32.459 –> 02:22:36.020
movie. The movies, as cheesy and campy as they
02:22:36.020 –> 02:22:38.559
are, are not terrible from a kid’s standpoint.
02:22:38.819 –> 02:22:42.299
They work all right. I mean, it’s a typical standard
02:22:42.299 –> 02:22:45.940
kids movie trope, but it’s all right. The current
02:22:45.940 –> 02:22:52.850
series is Alvin and the Chipmunks. uh released
02:22:52.850 –> 02:22:59.030
march 30th 2015 yeah march 4th 2023 so it ended
02:22:59.030 –> 02:23:02.850
three years ago that’s the most recent series
02:23:02.850 –> 02:23:04.889
and it’s i thought i had seen some bits and pieces
02:23:04.889 –> 02:23:07.350
of something that was new yeah and it’s literally
02:23:07.350 –> 02:23:13.129
his whole name a l v i and like three n’s with
02:23:13.129 –> 02:23:16.989
exclamation points and the chipmunks i was able
02:23:16.989 –> 02:23:18.790
to get screamed in the show so that makes sense
02:23:18.790 –> 02:23:21.629
yep absolutely All right, that means there’s
02:23:21.629 –> 02:23:23.709
only time for one more today, and we’re going
02:23:23.709 –> 02:23:27.770
to go back as far back in time as we have been
02:23:27.770 –> 02:23:31.489
so far the entire countdown. 76. Here’s who.
02:23:32.649 –> 02:23:36.049
All right, number 76. We’re going all the way
02:23:36.049 –> 02:23:39.389
back into the 50s, which is a decade we have
02:23:39.389 –> 02:23:43.149
not seen yet today. So interested to see your
02:23:43.149 –> 02:23:46.809
guys’ take on this. It did appear last time on
02:23:46.809 –> 02:23:49.500
our countdown as well. Like Gem, it is one of
02:23:49.500 –> 02:23:52.819
two shows that actually rose over the last 15
02:23:52.819 –> 02:23:57.299
years. So it went from 84 to 76. We’re talking
02:23:57.299 –> 02:23:59.979
about Walter Lance’s The Woody Woodpecker Show.
02:24:00.280 –> 02:24:06.000
It debuted on ABC back in 1957, 113 episodes,
02:24:06.100 –> 02:24:07.639
if you want to call them episodes. But obviously,
02:24:07.659 –> 02:24:09.899
this is a bridge between theatrical shorts and
02:24:09.899 –> 02:24:13.239
TV animation, kind of early TV package of theatrical
02:24:13.239 –> 02:24:16.600
cartoons. And kind of shows how TV animation
02:24:16.600 –> 02:24:19.920
was built on repurposed content back in the day.
02:24:20.399 –> 02:24:25.040
Obviously, you have a not a traditional produce
02:24:25.040 –> 02:24:27.700
for TV show, but more of a distribution format.
02:24:27.940 –> 02:24:30.260
Some people might not count this as a quote unquote
02:24:30.260 –> 02:24:33.059
TV show, but I think Woody Woodpecker is one
02:24:33.059 –> 02:24:36.920
of the most iconic classic characters. So I’m
02:24:36.920 –> 02:24:39.540
fine with him being in the top 100. I had him
02:24:39.540 –> 02:24:43.059
actually ranked in the top 50. But I’m glad to
02:24:43.059 –> 02:24:46.379
see that he climbed from 84 to 76. Steve, what
02:24:46.379 –> 02:24:47.639
do you think about the Woody Woodpecker show?
02:24:47.959 –> 02:24:52.739
So let me preface it with I ranked this at 91.
02:24:53.299 –> 02:24:56.239
There we go. My children, on the other hand,
02:24:56.340 –> 02:25:03.540
my oldest ranked it at seven. Nice. And my youngest
02:25:03.540 –> 02:25:07.799
did as well. And they found it on YouTube. I
02:25:07.799 –> 02:25:10.620
like it. And so they’ve been discovering random
02:25:10.620 –> 02:25:14.219
shows that are old by YouTube or Netflix or whatever,
02:25:14.360 –> 02:25:18.219
you know, we happen to have access to. And they
02:25:18.219 –> 02:25:22.180
they were like, this show is great. Like and
02:25:22.180 –> 02:25:24.819
I was like, how did you even they’re like YouTube?
02:25:25.000 –> 02:25:32.440
And I was like. So so that that’s me prefacing
02:25:32.440 –> 02:25:35.319
it there. I do find the show very entertaining
02:25:35.319 –> 02:25:38.799
and I did enjoy it as a kid. I don’t. remember
02:25:38.799 –> 02:25:41.340
a whole lot of why i liked it nowadays because
02:25:41.340 –> 02:25:43.219
like i haven’t gone back and rewatched it just
02:25:43.219 –> 02:25:46.780
because i i used to watch it and i’ve i’ve kind
02:25:46.780 –> 02:25:51.420
of branched out to watching other things um that
02:25:51.420 –> 02:25:54.739
being said i i do feel like it has a place on
02:25:54.739 –> 02:25:56.940
this list and it has stood the test of time because
02:25:56.940 –> 02:25:59.719
it keeps coming back and it’s added in animated
02:25:59.719 –> 02:26:01.780
i think a newer animated series and it’s had
02:26:01.780 –> 02:26:05.360
a movie uh so we’ve we’ve kind of had them kind
02:26:05.360 –> 02:26:08.629
of coming back multiple times over the years
02:26:08.629 –> 02:26:12.010
so i don’t know i’m i’m happy that he made the
02:26:12.010 –> 02:26:14.790
list i did not expect this so that means with
02:26:14.790 –> 02:26:16.690
that piece of information that you revealed which
02:26:16.690 –> 02:26:18.209
i could have seen looked if i looked at all the
02:26:18.209 –> 02:26:21.750
ballots but that means that the woody woodpecker
02:26:21.750 –> 02:26:26.889
show has pulled off being on the top 10 list
02:26:26.889 –> 02:26:30.129
of both our youngest contributor and our oldest
02:26:30.129 –> 02:26:35.069
contributor that’s funny so i didn’t see that
02:26:35.069 –> 02:26:37.850
coming But Keith Scott had this in his top 10
02:26:37.850 –> 02:26:42.489
as well. Awesome. That is crazy. I think that’s
02:26:42.489 –> 02:26:44.090
awesome. So, Mike, what do you think of The Woody
02:26:44.090 –> 02:26:47.850
Woodpecker Show? Love this show. Absolutely love
02:26:47.850 –> 02:26:52.989
it. Just some quick notes here. In 2023, MeTV
02:26:52.989 –> 02:26:55.889
acquired the broadcast rights to all of Walter
02:26:55.889 –> 02:27:01.590
Lance’s cartoons from 1934 to 1972 to air The
02:27:01.590 –> 02:27:07.090
Woody Woodpecker Show on Saturday mornings. uh
02:27:07.090 –> 02:27:11.510
so yeah that’s where you can see it but uh no
02:27:11.510 –> 02:27:14.569
growing up oh man seeing woody woodpecker and
02:27:14.569 –> 02:27:17.909
chili willy and all the all the woody chili willy
02:27:17.909 –> 02:27:20.870
is the only person the only penguin the only
02:27:20.870 –> 02:27:25.610
character out of all the other characters that
02:27:25.610 –> 02:27:27.969
woody woodpecker hung out with he’s the only
02:27:27.969 –> 02:27:30.829
one that i remember off the top of my head i
02:27:30.829 –> 02:27:34.579
couldn’t tell you And I actually can’t tell you
02:27:34.579 –> 02:27:39.139
because they don’t. The Wikipedia article starts
02:27:39.139 –> 02:27:42.000
with the history, the episodes, and then the
02:27:42.000 –> 02:27:45.399
season breakdown. And then the broadcast history,
02:27:45.559 –> 02:27:49.139
the home media, and the references. So it doesn’t
02:27:49.139 –> 02:27:52.840
even list characters or voice actors on the actual
02:27:52.840 –> 02:28:00.450
Wikipedia. Anyway, but Woody Woodpecker. Absolutely
02:28:00.450 –> 02:28:02.670
love Woody Woodpecker. I loved it as a kid. I
02:28:02.670 –> 02:28:04.850
love it as an adult. I’m going to have to go
02:28:04.850 –> 02:28:08.750
watch some episodes on YouTube, apparently. No,
02:28:08.870 –> 02:28:13.170
it’s so fun. Glad it’s on the countdown. And
02:28:13.170 –> 02:28:18.450
yeah, number 76. Yeah, it’s definitely interesting
02:28:18.450 –> 02:28:21.450
to see that we’ve gone all the way back in the
02:28:21.450 –> 02:28:25.270
50s here just right at the end. And there’s been
02:28:25.270 –> 02:28:28.520
a lot of different voices of Woody. the woodpecker
02:28:28.520 –> 02:28:30.860
over the years. Most recently, Eric Bauza has
02:28:30.860 –> 02:28:33.620
been doing it, but Billy West has voiced him
02:28:33.620 –> 02:28:36.879
over the years. And then originally some, some
02:28:36.879 –> 02:28:39.500
female, I mean, Mel Blanc did it for a second,
02:28:39.540 –> 02:28:42.239
but Grace Stafford was a female that had did
02:28:42.239 –> 02:28:45.979
his voice for a while as well. So definitely
02:28:45.979 –> 02:28:48.379
interesting to see one of the classic characters
02:28:48.379 –> 02:28:50.200
come here. Well, you guys kind of, I’m gonna
02:28:50.200 –> 02:28:52.200
give you guys a chance to react to the today’s.
02:28:52.909 –> 02:28:55.129
countdown overall but i’m going to give you like
02:28:55.129 –> 02:28:57.149
i normally do just a quick breakdown of the 25
02:28:57.149 –> 02:29:00.709
that we’ve revealed so far so from a decade standpoint
02:29:00.709 –> 02:29:06.010
we had one from the 50s three from the 60s one
02:29:06.010 –> 02:29:11.049
from the 70s eight from the 80s three from the
02:29:11.049 –> 02:29:15.530
90s five from the 2000s and four from the last
02:29:15.530 –> 02:29:20.430
15 years so right now 80s reign supreme And then
02:29:20.430 –> 02:29:23.510
the 2000s and the pre -1980s coming in next.
02:29:24.090 –> 02:29:30.030
From a network standpoint and a channel standpoint,
02:29:30.190 –> 02:29:32.329
so far the channel that is reigning supreme is
02:29:32.329 –> 02:29:35.309
ABC with five. Then we have Nickelodeon with
02:29:35.309 –> 02:29:37.950
four. Then we dropped down to NBC and Cartoon
02:29:37.950 –> 02:29:39.870
Network with two. We did have four shows that
02:29:39.870 –> 02:29:42.309
were syndicated. From a production company right
02:29:42.309 –> 02:29:44.569
now, it’s tied at the top with Marvel and Hanna
02:29:44.569 –> 02:29:47.579
-Barbera, each with three. Nickelodeon and Warner
02:29:47.579 –> 02:29:49.659
Brothers or Nickelodeon also has three and then
02:29:49.659 –> 02:29:52.639
Warner Brothers and Disney each have two. So
02:29:52.639 –> 02:29:55.940
Steve, overall thoughts so far on this set of
02:29:55.940 –> 02:29:58.559
25, what is your biggest surprise or how do you
02:29:58.559 –> 02:30:01.139
think things are looking so far? Honestly, I’m
02:30:01.139 –> 02:30:06.540
kind of surprised at the sheer change in some
02:30:06.540 –> 02:30:09.799
of their numbering. You know, probably the biggest
02:30:09.799 –> 02:30:14.260
upset was Speed Racer coming from like 349 to
02:30:14.260 –> 02:30:19.639
100. That to me is insane, or 166 to 94 for Top
02:30:19.639 –> 02:30:23.979
Cat, or 143 to 88 for Dragon Ball, 289 to 84
02:30:23.979 –> 02:30:28.840
for Rocko. Those, honestly, are probably the
02:30:28.840 –> 02:30:34.239
biggest, like, wow. Because they didn’t even
02:30:34.239 –> 02:30:36.540
contend last time, and this time they made it.
02:30:36.760 –> 02:30:40.760
And so it makes me wonder, between that and the
02:30:40.760 –> 02:30:43.459
new shows, or the ones that have ranked in a
02:30:43.459 –> 02:30:46.459
slightly different positioning, this list compared
02:30:46.459 –> 02:30:50.280
to the previous one there’s so much different
02:30:50.280 –> 02:30:54.760
already because like I actually went through
02:30:54.760 –> 02:30:58.600
the website to try and figure out okay what were
02:30:58.600 –> 02:31:03.579
our 100 in one list and so I dumped all of the
02:31:03.579 –> 02:31:06.860
the pages the four pages into like chat GPT and
02:31:06.860 –> 02:31:08.579
had it like all right just put them in numerical
02:31:08.579 –> 02:31:11.479
order again and based on you know the points
02:31:11.479 –> 02:31:16.770
and I was like, Holy crap. There’s like a bunch
02:31:16.770 –> 02:31:20.770
of stuff we haven’t even gotten to yet. And yeah,
02:31:20.950 –> 02:31:26.790
I’m, I’m, I’m very intrigued by what’s coming
02:31:26.790 –> 02:31:30.629
down the pipe. Yeah. I’m worried about what’s
02:31:30.629 –> 02:31:34.350
coming down the pipe. Because we know that there’s
02:31:34.350 –> 02:31:37.590
like 20, whatever I said last time, 27 shows
02:31:37.590 –> 02:31:39.329
that are going to drop out altogether, but nobody
02:31:39.329 –> 02:31:42.969
knows which those are. So it’s like, you know,
02:31:42.989 –> 02:31:45.090
outside of a couple that we revealed in the intro
02:31:45.090 –> 02:31:47.329
episode, you know, you don’t know which 27 are
02:31:47.329 –> 02:31:48.930
not going to appear at all. And you may not for
02:31:48.930 –> 02:31:51.510
a while. Makes it kind of interesting. Yeah.
02:31:51.510 –> 02:31:54.569
So I’m a little worried. Yeah, I get why. So
02:31:54.569 –> 02:31:57.889
also today we’ve had eight of the shows that
02:31:57.889 –> 02:32:01.030
climbed up into the rankings. So eight that were
02:32:01.030 –> 02:32:03.149
previously voted on, like Steve just read off
02:32:03.149 –> 02:32:05.309
a bunch of them, but eight that climbed up enough
02:32:05.309 –> 02:32:07.850
to just make it in here now. We will only have
02:32:07.850 –> 02:32:09.469
seven more the entire rest of the countdown.
02:32:10.239 –> 02:32:12.559
So the majority of those have already happened
02:32:12.559 –> 02:32:15.260
right here today. And then we had four shows
02:32:15.260 –> 02:32:17.920
today that just weren’t eligible to be ranked
02:32:17.920 –> 02:32:20.440
that made their list with X -Men 97, Transformers
02:32:20.440 –> 02:32:23.000
Prime, The Legend of Korra, and Invincible. So
02:32:23.000 –> 02:32:25.760
those were also newcomers. So that makes for
02:32:25.760 –> 02:32:28.920
12 out of this 25 that we didn’t talk about 15
02:32:28.920 –> 02:32:32.559
years ago. So that’s half of the list that we’ve
02:32:32.559 –> 02:32:36.809
covered today was new. Definitely intriguing.
02:32:37.010 –> 02:32:38.790
Mike, what are some of your overall thoughts?
02:32:38.989 –> 02:32:41.809
Oh, boy. Like I said, folks, at the beginning,
02:32:41.909 –> 02:32:43.850
and I’m going to say it almost every episode,
02:32:44.090 –> 02:32:49.889
it’s a slobber knocker. We’ve only had five shows
02:32:49.889 –> 02:32:54.129
that their movement was within 10. So Robotech
02:32:54.129 –> 02:32:57.590
was just a couple off. We had Recess, which was
02:32:57.590 –> 02:33:01.409
10 off. Gem was six off. Batman, the Brave and
02:33:01.409 –> 02:33:02.969
the Bold and the Woody the Woodpecker show were
02:33:02.969 –> 02:33:05.739
both eight off. So those are as close as we came
02:33:05.739 –> 02:33:08.780
to like matching what we had last time. But again,
02:33:08.899 –> 02:33:11.360
like I said, look at the difference, look at
02:33:11.360 –> 02:33:14.180
the difference in the 15 years, 15 years ago,
02:33:14.260 –> 02:33:19.379
we had a completely. And again, if we can get
02:33:19.379 –> 02:33:22.540
dirt on here, hopefully one of these episodes,
02:33:22.780 –> 02:33:26.760
we’re going to try to get him on here. He said,
02:33:26.860 –> 02:33:29.120
cause I listened to his episodes that he was
02:33:29.120 –> 02:33:32.079
on 15 years ago. If you imagine, if you guys
02:33:32.079 –> 02:33:34.649
did this differently, if you did, the numbering
02:33:34.649 –> 02:33:36.709
differently or if you did this or did that or
02:33:36.709 –> 02:33:40.250
whatever we’re doing it differently this time
02:33:40.250 –> 02:33:47.110
and instead of doing the 20 181 80 to 60 we’re
02:33:47.110 –> 02:33:51.170
doing it 25 entries at a time listening to that
02:33:51.170 –> 02:33:55.760
181 and hearing us go through this now with the
02:33:55.760 –> 02:34:00.700
25 it’s so much different i know people do talk
02:34:00.700 –> 02:34:02.700
about like doing it different like doing the
02:34:02.700 –> 02:34:04.500
median or doing the average ranking and things
02:34:04.500 –> 02:34:06.239
of that nature well i did pressure test that
02:34:06.239 –> 02:34:07.959
against a lot of different sources online and
02:34:07.959 –> 02:34:10.399
did some research and talked to chat gpt and
02:34:10.399 –> 02:34:12.420
they do say that the way that we are doing it
02:34:12.420 –> 02:34:15.600
is probably the best way to go about it um from
02:34:15.600 –> 02:34:18.899
a consensus standpoint um just because otherwise
02:34:18.899 –> 02:34:21.159
you have to get real creative because if if we
02:34:21.159 –> 02:34:23.719
went just on like how the average ranking or
02:34:23.719 –> 02:34:27.600
something like that, it really skews stuff that
02:34:27.600 –> 02:34:29.559
didn’t get voted on as much, but just got voted
02:34:29.559 –> 02:34:32.000
high. And like, there’s some repercussions that
02:34:32.000 –> 02:34:33.600
would make our list completely different that
02:34:33.600 –> 02:34:36.180
I experimented with and I saw what would happen
02:34:36.180 –> 02:34:38.180
if we did that. And I didn’t like the outcome.
02:34:38.360 –> 02:34:42.040
So we trusted what we, what this method that
02:34:42.040 –> 02:34:44.319
we’ve been using. Cause Hey, even he said it
02:34:44.319 –> 02:34:47.629
was the right way to go. yep absolutely so and
02:34:47.629 –> 02:34:51.190
man like just the number the the names on this
02:34:51.190 –> 02:34:56.450
list so far compared to 15 years ago oh boy i
02:34:56.450 –> 02:34:58.690
would say we have a crazy amount of variety so
02:34:58.690 –> 02:35:02.569
far in this 25 uh yeah nobody’s gonna judge us
02:35:02.569 –> 02:35:05.889
on the on the on the variety to this point we
02:35:05.889 –> 02:35:08.250
had three three or four superhero shows we had
02:35:08.250 –> 02:35:11.790
four animes we had five shows from the olden
02:35:11.790 –> 02:35:15.129
days Three or four shows from modern time periods
02:35:15.129 –> 02:35:16.930
were a little, I mean, yes, there was eight shows
02:35:16.930 –> 02:35:19.690
from the 80s. I don’t know if that means that
02:35:19.690 –> 02:35:21.750
we’re not going to have as many 80s shows because
02:35:21.750 –> 02:35:23.389
they’re all falling now, or if it means that
02:35:23.389 –> 02:35:25.129
maybe the 80s shows will do better than we thought
02:35:25.129 –> 02:35:26.969
they were in all of our predictions. We’ll have
02:35:26.969 –> 02:35:30.010
to wait and see, but definitely a variety of
02:35:30.010 –> 02:35:33.049
stuff that fell so far today. But again, like,
02:35:33.170 –> 02:35:35.469
okay, we had eight shows in the 80s. How many?
02:35:35.790 –> 02:35:37.489
You said how many we had in the 90s. What was
02:35:37.489 –> 02:35:40.409
it? Three, four, three. Okay. Only three. Recess,
02:35:40.510 –> 02:35:43.190
Rocko’s, and Freakazoid. That’s it. Right. Okay.
02:35:43.250 –> 02:35:46.149
But you got to understand, folks, for the last
02:35:46.149 –> 02:35:49.489
17 years, if you’ve been listening that long,
02:35:49.629 –> 02:35:52.649
if you’ve come in at some point within those
02:35:52.649 –> 02:35:55.530
17 years, if you’ve listened to anything that
02:35:55.530 –> 02:35:59.829
any of us have done on the GCRN, you know what
02:35:59.829 –> 02:36:04.000
our… tastes are you know what we like you know
02:36:04.000 –> 02:36:08.159
what we do here you know what our biases are
02:36:08.159 –> 02:36:10.680
and we’re not even trying to be biased the list
02:36:10.680 –> 02:36:13.760
is already made the list is already done and
02:36:13.760 –> 02:36:17.639
as optimus solo said he’s the only one that has
02:36:17.639 –> 02:36:19.860
the list steve and i are learning this stuff
02:36:19.860 –> 02:36:23.639
and steve myself and any of any guests that we
02:36:23.639 –> 02:36:27.139
get in future episodes we’re learning this stuff
02:36:27.139 –> 02:36:31.979
as he reveals it so Yeah, we had an 80s heavy
02:36:31.979 –> 02:36:34.620
episode with eight shows this time. We only had
02:36:34.620 –> 02:36:37.260
three 90s shows. Maybe next episode will be five
02:36:37.260 –> 02:36:41.239
90s shows. We don’t know. You never know. But
02:36:41.239 –> 02:36:45.819
it’s one of those things where I think the 90s
02:36:45.819 –> 02:36:49.239
are going to rear their ugly head and we’re going
02:36:49.239 –> 02:36:52.959
to get 90s shows. I think some 2000s cartoons
02:36:52.959 –> 02:36:57.639
are going to show up. I guarantee you more Transformers
02:36:57.639 –> 02:37:01.629
shows are going to show up. I don’t know where.
02:37:01.670 –> 02:37:06.610
I don’t know when. I think they will. Yeah, and
02:37:06.610 –> 02:37:08.309
some stuff is going to show up sooner rather
02:37:08.309 –> 02:37:11.149
than later. So just a tease for next week’s episode.
02:37:11.489 –> 02:37:16.229
In our 75 through 51 segment, we will see two
02:37:16.229 –> 02:37:20.670
people’s number one overall picks fall in the
02:37:20.670 –> 02:37:25.010
75 through the 51 range. So just have to tune
02:37:25.010 –> 02:37:30.799
in to see which two those shows are. Mike? get
02:37:30.799 –> 02:37:33.899
us out of here yep we’re gonna get the heck out
02:37:33.899 –> 02:37:37.239
of here folks all right toonsters as always we
02:37:37.239 –> 02:37:39.739
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unleash the tune in you
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TFG1Mike is a geek with many interests. He has been podcasting for over a decade, and sees no stopping point in sight. From Transformers, He-Man, Batman, Comics, movies, video games, cartoons, and so much more, Mike has a zeal for the things he loves, and he will bring the hammer down on the things that he has a disdain for. He's generally a postive person, but negativity can creep in there. Mike is all about the innuendos and innuendon'ts too. You'll hear him on many of The GCRN podcasts!

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I decided to make my own list, and for this first part, I either didn’t have the show on my list or I ranked it extremely high.
Of the 25 shows revealed, I didn’t have 14 of them on my list (Robotech, Full Metal Alchemist, Star Wars: Clone Wars, Top Cat, Danger Mouse, Super Mario Bros, Dragon Ball, Beetlejuice, Spectacular Spider-Man, Jem, Legend of Korra, Batman: Brave & Bold, Invincible, & Woody Woodpecker).
Here is where I ranked everyone else from Part 1. Speed Racer (74), Recess (33), Gummy Bears (94), Super Friends (53), Invader Zim (87), Transformers: Prime (49), X-Man ’97 (18), Wacky Races (69), Rocko (14), Freakazoid (36), Alvin & Chipmunks (32).
Thanks for sharing, hope you enjoyed the episode!!
That’s awesome!!! Thanks For listening! Can’t wait to see your rankings for the rest of it as we go along!