Interviews – Tom Bergeron – Hosting As Fast As He Can!

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Hi, this is Tom Bergeron. You know what you’re

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doing. You’re listening to the Geekcast Radio

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Network. I know, I like fun. I’m having lunch

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tomorrow with a friend who has just received

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his own Funko Pop, so I’ll find out what I gotta

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do. You probably just have to read him your resume.

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Yeah, that’s probably it. I’m doing my Funko

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Pop. There we go, there we go. All right. So

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we’ll do the little promo things at the end.

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Sure. And we’ll get this going. And like I said,

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we’ve got a few things we’re going to obviously.

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So just to preface, I even though I don’t sound

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like it, I used to be able to pack the car. I

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was born in Stoughton. So kidding. Yeah. You

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know, it’s interesting. I I’ve heard some recordings

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that my dad, my late dad did. of me and my sister

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when we were kids, and I had a Boston accent.

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And I don’t know where it went. Same as you,

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Mike, I guess. Yeah, well, by 93, when I was

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13, I ended up in Kentucky for almost 25 years.

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Oh, that’ll do it. Yeah. They beat the you guys

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out of me and put the y ‘all in me. Hi, this

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is Tom Bergeron. You are listening to Altered

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Geek. You didn’t think I knew that. We are filled

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with personality around here. I’m filled with

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something, I’ve been told, but we won’t bring

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that up right now. Welcome to an Altered Geek

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and GeekCast Radio crossover interview. I am

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one of your hosts, not the normal host on Altered

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Geek. That’s my buddy, Steve Megatron, joining

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me as always. Hello, sir. Hello. I’m, of course,

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TF2 and Mike, and ladies and gentlemen, it’s

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been a while since we’ve had… We’ve gotten

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a lot of interviews over the last 13 years, and

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it’s been a while since we’ve had somebody with

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this person’s career, longevity, and amazement.

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So we here at the Geekcast Radio Network are

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very excited to talk with Emmy Award winning

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comedian and host. He’s been in front of nine

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squares, dressed up as a taco and danced all

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the way through the stars. He even had a role

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in Star Trek Enterprise. Even if you were just

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a regular TV fan and you’re not a geek like us.

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You’ve known Tom Bergeron your entire life. He’s

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the man who is hosting as fast as he can. Hi,

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Tom. How are you? I can’t wait to meet him. Oh,

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me? Oh. Gosh, you sounded great. Who are that

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guy? Yeah. He’s amazing. Yeah. Pleasure to be

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with you both. Now, this is a crossover episode.

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You don’t usually co -host these together? We

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do, but we… don’t usually when we do interviews

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like specifically we would do voice actor interviews

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and it would be on our cartoon show specifically

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because yeah yeah animation or video games or

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whatever but since geek cast radio the overall

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network show and steve show altered geek it’s

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all geeked them all together it’s like why not

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just have it on both feeds and just rake in the

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numbers even though we don’t pay attention to

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the numbers Well, I think it’s great. You know,

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numbers can I used to be a Nielsen junkie. You

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know, I’d look for the overnights and the demo

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breakdown and how we held versus last season

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or last week and all that. And that’s how you

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get migraines. It just just, you know, do the

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best you can. And if it works, it works. And

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if it doesn’t, you move on to something else.

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Yep. absolutely so mr bergeron sir what have

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you got going on currently are there any upcoming

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projects or projects you may have done recently

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in the last couple of strange years that you

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can talk about or that you’re allowed to talk

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about because i know sometimes people aren’t

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allowed to talk about things and then an interview

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might go viral because they talked about something

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yeah like if i was in a marvel movie and just

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you know got verbal diarrhea and they took me

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out with the kevin feige sniper that kind of

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thing right yeah it’s not that bad i’ve got actually

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i’m going off to the new hampshire film festival

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Next week, we’re going to be screening a web

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series that I co -produced and did some acting

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in that we recorded just before the pandemic

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started. So it’s been sort of on the shelf for

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a couple of years. So do that. And I’m also working

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on a film project with the world’s oldest astronaut,

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William Shatner. Oh, that’s cool. Yes. The series

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he’s talking about, folks, is Down the Middle?

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Homework, that’s right. Yep. Hey, I don’t know

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if you noticed in that long diatribe under the

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orange juice picture in the Skype chat, I said,

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by now, as of this recording, I’ve listened to

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the book at least eight times in the past two

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weeks. I know. I did read that, and I considered

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an intervention. Don’t worry. We joke about that

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with Mike all the time. I’m one of those anal

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retentive people that because my brain works

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the way it does or doesn’t, I have to have the

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information like immediately available. If I

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don’t, I won’t remember a damn thing. No, I get

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it. Years ago, I did a daily talk show in Boston

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on television on the NBC affiliate at the time.

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And it was like cramming for an exam every night

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because we ran the gamut of topics, everything

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from the sublime to the serious to the ridiculous.

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And so every every night I’d be getting ready

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for a one hour live show where, you know, I didn’t

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want to look like I was caught with my notes

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down, if you will. Yes. And it is so surreal.

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talk to you after all this time because I’ve

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grown up with you. I’m 42 at this point. Steve’s

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just a few years younger than I am. Hollywood

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Squares and all of that. I’m pretty sure I heard

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you on Morning Magic back when you were doing

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that. That would have been 93 into early 94.

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Maybe I didn’t hear you on it then because I

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was in Kentucky by Oh, well, I don’t know how

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strong the signal was. No, it wasn’t. Sadly,

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we didn’t have internet radio back then. No,

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not then. Not then. All right. So we’ve kind

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of gotten into the radio thing. And you say in

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the book, and obviously it’s true because you

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said it. Why would you say it unless it was true?

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Radio has always been your first love. Yeah,

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yeah. Yeah, it’s it’s you know, I never really

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thought of a television career. I was interested

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in doing stuff on stage and I was interested

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in radio and lucked into a job while I was still

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in high school because I had a public speaking

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teacher who was a part time newsman at the local

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radio station. And I did well enough in his class

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and well enough with my Machiavellian designs

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to brown nose my way into his class. that he

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introduced me to the station manager. So I was

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actually working in radio when I was a senior

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in high school. So besides your which you say

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you have no memory of the first broadcast, but

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what were the overall memories? Well, it’s interesting.

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I have a sense memory. It’s it’s I don’t remember.

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I know it was a rock show, like a rock music

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show on Saturday night, a Saturday night. And

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I do have a sense memory of turning. Of flicking

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the mic switch and turning the pot. If you know

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those old boards that had like a round pot for

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volume, you’d turn that up. And I just remember

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how hard my heart was beating. I was so nervous.

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And I made some inane joke or something like

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that. But I managed to get through it. And I

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was feeling pretty good about myself. And on

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Monday when I was back in school. I was walking

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walking in the corridor and some guys were hanging

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out and one of them yelled, hey, Bergeron, we

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heard your show Saturday. I went, oh, really?

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He goes, yeah, you sucked. Well, OK, welcome

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to a preview of what social media might be like.

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Yeah. Yeah, it’s it was so different back then.

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It just really was. And it’s just crazy compared

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to compared to what social media is now. Yeah.

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Yeah. Now you don’t have to wait till the next

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day to hear it. No, no. You can feel yourself

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being canceled imminently. Yeah. Yes. Let’s hope

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not. Oh, yeah. So following that up and again,

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focusing on radio, did you always want to be

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in radio? Most of all, like, what was your favorite

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part of being in radio? I love the intimacy of

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it. One of the radio hosts that I listened to

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growing up was Gene Shepard. I don’t know if

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that name rings a bell with either of you, but

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he was out of New York. And he also, if you’ve

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seen the movie A Christmas Story, you know, go

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shoot your eye out. You know, that’s Gene Shepard

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narrates that he plays Santa in it. And it’s

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based on his stories. And the thing about Gene

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Shepard as a kid, he had this kind of a grainy

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quality to his voice. And it made everything

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sound potentially interesting. Not necessarily

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interesting, but potentially interesting. You

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know, so I was just absolutely captivated by

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what you could do one on one with a microphone.

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to a listener. And interestingly, in television,

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whenever I’ve talked to people coming up in the

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business or students who want to be on TV and

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host, I tell them, much as I felt in radio, don’t

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think about an audience. You’re really talking

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to one person. So whether you’re on radio or

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a podcast or looking into the glass eye of a

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camera lens, it’s really one person on the other

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side. And and I think that approach helps. For

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example, when I started in radio, I actually

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had an album cover on the other side of the microphone.

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And it had a very I don’t know who the band was

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or anything, but it was a very attractive woman

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on the cover. And I talked to her. So for the

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first few years of my career, I probably just

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sounded horny. OK, now here’s the real question.

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Was she a redhead? No, she was not. But I certainly

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have made up for that. Yes. I am married to a

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redhead, too, so I can relate. How many years

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have you been married? Is it months or years

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at this point? Years. 13 years, but I’ve been

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with her for 18. Okay. We just celebrated our

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40th in May. Awesome. Congratulations. Yeah.

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Now, in Hollywood, it’s not uncommon for people

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to be married. For 40 years. But it’s a cumulative

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thing. You know, it’s multiple partners. But

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yeah, for Lois and I, it was just the two of

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us. Yeah. Yeah. Hollywood. It’s like, oh, we’re

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going to be married for five minutes. Why? It’s

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a lot of showmances out here. You know, it’s

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like swipe next. You’re right. Yeah, exactly.

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Exactly. I’m still waiting for somebody to beat

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72 days, but whatever. All right. So your first

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love is radio. You transition to TV hosting.

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And you said in the book, which we will talk

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more about the book in a bit, but you and I just

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realized now that book is almost a decade. It’s

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just over a decade old. 2009. I was like, wait

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a minute. Didn’t this just come out like last

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week? I don’t know. It sounds like it, but yeah.

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I mean, I was listening and I saw the data and

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I’m like, oh, it’s a little dated, but it’s not

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much. And, you know, I mean, it’s still all very

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relevant. It was interesting, too, because I

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don’t want to jump the gun on you, but the wonderful

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thing, the serendipity of that, of writing that

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book, I was writing it in 2008 and I was looking

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for an ending. You know, because it was really

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it’s really a book about meditation, really.

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And I use career anecdotes to kind of string

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you along and talk about the values of meditation.

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And I was saying, well, I need it. I need to

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kind of find a way to wrap it up. And I found

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it by, you know, co -hosting one of the worst

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Emmy broadcasts in history. So it gave me a wonderful,

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wonderful way to wrap the book up. Yes. Our regularly

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scheduled lives. Yes. Yeah. There is no regularly

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scheduled life anymore. There never has been.

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It’s always those ebbs and flows of things and

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all that. Very true. Yeah. So which are you most

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comfortable in? Like, which one is, like, radio’s

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first love, but you got into television broadcasting.

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Like, if you had to pick, which one are you the

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most at home? Well, it’s interesting. And I think

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that answer is going to be colored by what we’ve

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just been through the past few years. I’ve now

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even the idea of going to a radio studio seems

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less interesting than just staying in my house

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and doing exactly what I’m doing right now. Yeah.

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You know what I mean? It’s just television. There’s

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more artifice with television. You have to dress

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up. You got someone slapping makeup on you. You’ve

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got, you know, a whole bunch of. Dealing with

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that in most radio formats, you don’t have to

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deal with. And, you know, you can show up unshaven

00:14:40.659 –> 00:14:44.799
in jeans or whatever. And and now being able

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to do things out of my house like this and other

00:14:48.500 –> 00:14:51.279
things I’ve done over the past couple of years,

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I’ve gotten spoiled. I love it. I love, you know,

00:14:55.360 –> 00:14:58.399
walking into my home office and firing up the

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computer and on we go. That’s the best way to

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have it done. We’ve been doing this for 13 years

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now on the network. He’s been doing it for 16

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years. I’ve been doing it for 14 years. There

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was only one time he and I got together in person

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to do a recording. He was coming up for my then

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wedding at the time. That’s a whole other story

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that doesn’t need to be retold now. I’m intrigued.

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So we met in person and we recorded actually

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one episode live together, which was hilarious

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because we were incoherent the entire time. Because

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we had never done live in person together before.

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And it’s like, oh, do we look at the audacity?

00:15:45.679 –> 00:15:49.360
Because we were using audacity to record on my

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computer. And because it wasn’t Skype and it

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wasn’t like it was borderline awkward just because

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we’re like, OK, we’ve never done this in person.

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How does this work? Yeah. And I didn’t have it.

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I didn’t have a desk set up like a radio board

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or anything like that where he could sit on one

00:16:03.639 –> 00:16:05.460
side and I could sit on the other. So it’s like

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the microphone is over this way and I have my

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head turned halfway back this way to look at

00:16:11.500 –> 00:16:14.659
him to make sure we’re actually, you know. conversing

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with each other and it’s like, no, let’s just

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go back to Skype and whatever else, Zencast or

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whatever, because it’s much easier to just sit

00:16:22.820 –> 00:16:26.720
here in our own environments and just talk. Absolutely.

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In December for the third year, I’ll be hosting

00:16:31.600 –> 00:16:35.559
a benefit for the Ed Asner Family Center, which

00:16:35.559 –> 00:16:39.179
helps families with family members who have autism.

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And we’ve done a reading of the screenplay of

00:16:43.639 –> 00:16:46.500
It’s a Wonderful Life. Oh, that’s cool. And last

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year, Jason Sudeikis from Ted Lasso and SNL played

00:16:51.080 –> 00:16:53.779
George Bailey the year before. Pete Davidson

00:16:53.779 –> 00:16:56.659
played George Bailey. We’ve had Mark Hamill was

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with us last time, too. And, you know, I’m sitting

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here at my house. Looking at the screen, there

00:17:03.490 –> 00:17:06.529
are about 14 Zoom boxes from all over the country.

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A star studded. I mean, more stars than even

00:17:10.329 –> 00:17:13.269
I’d seen on Hollywood Squares years ago. And

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it’s just a wonderful thing. I just, you know,

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I get a little IPA. I sit down, you know, introduce

00:17:18.369 –> 00:17:22.309
everybody. They read screenplay. I do a couple

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interviews. We do some Q &A with the viewers

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and call it a night. It’s a wonderful way to,

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quote, work. Who did Mark play? I forget. I forget

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who he played. I would think he played Potter.

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No, he didn’t play Potter. Oh, OK. He didn’t

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play. I don’t know. I don’t think he did. Of

00:17:44.410 –> 00:17:46.849
course, he’s such a wonderful voice actor, too.

00:17:46.950 –> 00:17:52.049
Yeah, absolutely. I would love to have. I didn’t

00:17:52.049 –> 00:17:54.369
think of it at the time, but to have him. use

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his joker voice in it’s a wonderful life as otter

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would be would be inspired if he’s if he’s back

00:18:00.769 –> 00:18:03.009
this year i might suggest that that would be

00:18:03.009 –> 00:18:05.630
awesome very cool no it was just getting me thinking

00:18:05.630 –> 00:18:07.549
because you’re like oh i have him do his joker

00:18:07.549 –> 00:18:10.710
voice i’m like oh i can do a joker voice uh he

00:18:10.710 –> 00:18:16.569
can he does let’s hear it well howdy there batman

00:18:17.710 –> 00:18:22.329
Today is the day the clown cried, and he cried

00:18:22.329 –> 00:18:25.490
not for the passing of one man, but for the death

00:18:25.490 –> 00:18:32.029
of a dream. Yeah, so I did that for my monologue.

00:18:32.950 –> 00:18:37.470
Institutionalized, yeah. Yeah, I did that as

00:18:37.470 –> 00:18:42.630
my monologue in my acting class. Doing that because

00:18:42.630 –> 00:18:45.490
like I’m an introvert by by nature, but I can

00:18:45.490 –> 00:18:49.069
put on the extrovert in public. And I was sitting

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there staring at the classmates and they’re all

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giving me this like jaw dropping look. I’m pulling

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on Mark Hamill and my teacher is like, OK, that

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was good. Let’s let’s keep going. That’s funny.

00:19:02.549 –> 00:19:05.029
Well, you know, it’s not uncommon for performers

00:19:05.029 –> 00:19:09.630
to be introverts. You know, I’m much more comfortable

00:19:09.630 –> 00:19:14.460
on. Like I’ve often said, I’m more comfortable

00:19:14.460 –> 00:19:17.180
on a live show in front of 20 million people

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than at a neighborhood party. You know, it’s

00:19:21.559 –> 00:19:25.000
just my wirings cross, I guess. But it’s you

00:19:25.000 –> 00:19:26.880
know, it’s it’s worked so far. So I’m not going

00:19:26.880 –> 00:19:29.000
to complain. Makes sense. One of the other parts

00:19:29.000 –> 00:19:31.619
I loved about the book was you discussing your

00:19:31.619 –> 00:19:34.920
your meeting the three stooges. Oh, yeah. How

00:19:34.920 –> 00:19:37.960
how cool was that for you to get to meet them

00:19:37.960 –> 00:19:41.650
in person? Well, I met them over the phone. I

00:19:41.650 –> 00:19:44.930
never I never met them in person, but I called

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information in California. I was in Massachusetts

00:19:48.670 –> 00:19:53.089
in my childhood home and my folks were out. My

00:19:53.089 –> 00:19:57.109
sister was at a sleepover and and I had no life.

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So I thought, I’ll see if I can track down Moe

00:20:00.750 –> 00:20:04.390
and Larry. And by the way, I was stone cold sober

00:20:04.390 –> 00:20:08.529
when I decided to do this at 16 and called information.

00:20:09.279 –> 00:20:12.019
Got the number for a Larry Fine that turned out

00:20:12.019 –> 00:20:14.759
not to be the Larry Fine of the Three Stooges.

00:20:14.759 –> 00:20:18.640
But because they received calls like this occasionally,

00:20:18.960 –> 00:20:22.500
the woman who answered the phone knew where the

00:20:22.500 –> 00:20:25.160
Larry Fine was at the motion picture television

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home, which is not too far from where I live

00:20:28.019 –> 00:20:30.640
now in California. And I do work for them now.

00:20:30.660 –> 00:20:33.190
I do fundraising and such for them. But Larry

00:20:33.190 –> 00:20:35.710
came to the phone and we talked for a bit and

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I had my little cassette tape recorder going.

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And about 10 minutes into the conversation, he

00:20:42.049 –> 00:20:46.630
said, you want Mo’s number? And he gave me Mo’s

00:20:46.630 –> 00:20:49.269
home phone number. So I ended up talking to Mo

00:20:49.269 –> 00:20:52.490
that night, too. And it was just and then subsequent

00:20:52.490 –> 00:20:55.730
to that night, over the next 18 months, I probably

00:20:55.730 –> 00:20:59.190
talked to each of them about a half a dozen times,

00:20:59.390 –> 00:21:01.769
just sometimes to just call and say hi and check

00:21:01.769 –> 00:21:04.569
in. Yeah. And it was pretty cool. That’s very

00:21:04.569 –> 00:21:07.589
cool. Yeah, that is very. We turned, as a matter

00:21:07.589 –> 00:21:10.329
of fact, we turned the tapes that I could find

00:21:10.329 –> 00:21:14.829
into a 90 minute special with Howard Stern on

00:21:14.829 –> 00:21:18.609
Sirius XM. It’s called The Lost Stooges. I think

00:21:18.609 –> 00:21:24.130
you can still find it on the Sirius XM app. And

00:21:24.130 –> 00:21:26.630
I’ll have to check that out because I am a huge.

00:21:26.690 –> 00:21:29.849
My mom was a huge Stooge fan. I’m a huge Stooge

00:21:29.849 –> 00:21:33.529
fan. And you’re right. The Curly Years. No disrespect

00:21:33.529 –> 00:21:36.829
to Shemp, but The Curly Years. Now, you know

00:21:36.829 –> 00:21:39.549
the chronology that Shemp was the original Third

00:21:39.549 –> 00:21:42.849
Stooge, right? Yeah, yeah. And dropped out to

00:21:42.849 –> 00:21:45.690
do the Joe Palooka series, and then Jerry Howard,

00:21:45.829 –> 00:21:49.769
the younger brother, came in. Curly, and he’s

00:21:49.769 –> 00:21:53.230
the definitive Third Stooge, really. That was

00:21:53.230 –> 00:21:57.289
them at their best. Yeah, it really, really was.

00:21:57.410 –> 00:22:03.180
It really was. So you’ve done and you do, certain

00:22:03.180 –> 00:22:07.400
times, a lot of acting over the years, but mainly

00:22:07.400 –> 00:22:11.420
you’re a television host. However, from voiceover

00:22:11.420 –> 00:22:14.940
to doing the plays that you’ve done and all that,

00:22:15.200 –> 00:22:19.220
when you’re acting, what is your favorite form

00:22:19.220 –> 00:22:22.000
of acting? One of the things, I just like…

00:22:22.160 –> 00:22:24.900
against type that’s that’s what intrigues me

00:22:24.900 –> 00:22:28.039
because i think there’s a perception both on

00:22:28.039 –> 00:22:31.140
the on the video show and dancing and hollywood

00:22:31.140 –> 00:22:34.759
squares and things like that that uh you know

00:22:34.759 –> 00:22:37.859
one aspect of my personality is is fairly dominant

00:22:37.859 –> 00:22:41.880
there pretty much who i am in life really acting

00:22:41.880 –> 00:22:44.140
gives me the chance to the degree that i do it

00:22:44.140 –> 00:22:48.019
which is not that often but To play to play like

00:22:48.019 –> 00:22:50.680
I did a short film called The Messenger a couple

00:22:50.680 –> 00:22:52.480
of years ago where I played a character who was

00:22:52.480 –> 00:22:56.079
the messenger of death. I got you mentioned Star

00:22:56.079 –> 00:22:59.740
Trek. I got to play an alien trader of exotic

00:22:59.740 –> 00:23:03.759
goods on an episode of Enterprise. I was a talk

00:23:03.759 –> 00:23:06.839
show host, which wasn’t much of a stretch on

00:23:06.839 –> 00:23:10.529
an episode of Castle before. I was murdered.

00:23:11.809 –> 00:23:14.829
You know, so if I can do something, I was talking

00:23:14.829 –> 00:23:17.190
to a buddy of mine who’s an actor just recently,

00:23:17.210 –> 00:23:19.210
and he was asking a similar question. I said,

00:23:19.230 –> 00:23:22.029
I’d really I would like to sink my teeth into

00:23:22.029 –> 00:23:26.009
a real bad guy role that really just sort of

00:23:26.009 –> 00:23:28.869
surprised people. That would be cool. Yeah. Well,

00:23:28.970 –> 00:23:33.269
you kind of came close, sort of. You hosted the

00:23:33.269 –> 00:23:39.549
Love Muffin. Evil thing in Phineas and Ferb.

00:23:41.349 –> 00:23:45.930
That’s right. You’re that close. Yeah, Phineas

00:23:45.930 –> 00:23:49.430
and Ferb, I did a voice role with them, but I

00:23:49.430 –> 00:23:53.049
also appeared on their talk show as me. Yep.

00:23:53.190 –> 00:23:56.869
Which was such fun. That was such fun, too. I

00:23:56.869 –> 00:23:58.950
did that in New York against a green screen,

00:23:59.109 –> 00:24:02.029
and I just… And I would throw ideas out, and

00:24:02.029 –> 00:24:05.029
the whole idea of meditating and levitating into

00:24:05.029 –> 00:24:09.109
the clouds and things like that was pretty much

00:24:09.109 –> 00:24:14.410
based on ad libs that they then went and brilliantly

00:24:14.410 –> 00:24:17.210
illustrated. With such a busy lifestyle, how

00:24:17.210 –> 00:24:20.309
do you keep grounded? I meditate. Ferb loves

00:24:20.309 –> 00:24:23.849
meditating. Really? I do it every day. Well,

00:24:23.930 –> 00:24:25.710
you know, I don’t want to brag, Ferb, but when

00:24:25.710 –> 00:24:29.549
I get in the zone… I can levitate. Will you

00:24:29.549 –> 00:24:32.190
teach us? I’m happy to do it. Let’s go to the

00:24:32.190 –> 00:24:34.630
meditation room. You have a meditation room?

00:24:34.950 –> 00:24:38.289
That’s so cool. Yeah, that was awesome. So following

00:24:38.289 –> 00:24:40.670
that up and kind of focusing on the voice acting,

00:24:40.809 –> 00:24:43.599
what is your favorite type of… voice acting

00:24:43.599 –> 00:24:46.880
work to do, whether it be some kind of narration

00:24:46.880 –> 00:24:49.859
or animation, as there’s so many different types

00:24:49.859 –> 00:24:52.039
that you can do? Yeah, well, it’s interesting.

00:24:52.240 –> 00:24:55.500
The best answer, I think, goes back to the first

00:24:55.500 –> 00:24:58.960
couple episodes of America’s Funniest Home Videos

00:24:58.960 –> 00:25:04.180
that I did back in 2001. Bob, God bless him,

00:25:04.200 –> 00:25:06.740
the late Bob Saget, who became a good buddy.

00:25:07.259 –> 00:25:09.859
I had done the first eight years, you know, had

00:25:09.859 –> 00:25:12.380
really sort of planted the flag for that that

00:25:12.380 –> 00:25:16.700
show. But when he did it and he would do character

00:25:16.700 –> 00:25:22.480
voices for the videos. And so when I first started,

00:25:22.720 –> 00:25:26.539
I, you know, I can do voices, too. But the moment

00:25:26.539 –> 00:25:30.299
I start the moment I started doing voices, I

00:25:30.299 –> 00:25:33.259
felt like it was really Bob’s thing. You know,

00:25:33.400 –> 00:25:38.380
I was kind of it felt very derivative. So I pretty

00:25:38.380 –> 00:25:41.759
quickly came to what ultimately I did for the

00:25:41.759 –> 00:25:44.140
pretty much the whole 15 years I hosted the show,

00:25:44.259 –> 00:25:47.880
which was really just me. It’s just me talking,

00:25:48.039 –> 00:25:52.920
you know, and spewing dad jokes. And it’s always

00:25:52.920 –> 00:25:55.940
the best. Well, it worked for me. And Alfonso

00:25:55.940 –> 00:25:58.359
and I had lunch the other day and he was saying,

00:25:58.359 –> 00:26:00.460
you know, he he had to make that same decision

00:26:00.460 –> 00:26:03.019
and he thought he’d feel more comfortable sort

00:26:03.019 –> 00:26:06.039
of doing it. closer to the way I did it as well.

00:26:06.200 –> 00:26:09.920
And Bob and I, we would talk about it. And I

00:26:09.920 –> 00:26:13.299
did get him to come back for the 25th anniversary

00:26:13.299 –> 00:26:16.859
show. And he started doing the character voices.

00:26:17.480 –> 00:26:20.819
And just, if you see that show, and I think it’s

00:26:20.819 –> 00:26:24.740
on Hulu or Disney Plus or something, The Summit

00:26:24.740 –> 00:26:27.380
with Saget, it’s called. And you just watch me

00:26:27.380 –> 00:26:29.799
basically break up for the hour. I mean, I told

00:26:29.799 –> 00:26:33.319
him, before we started taping, I said, I’ll get

00:26:33.319 –> 00:26:35.480
us to the clips. I’ll get us to the commercials.

00:26:35.759 –> 00:26:39.599
You just do whatever you want to do. And he was

00:26:39.599 –> 00:26:42.720
hilarious. He just was. It was such fun. But

00:26:42.720 –> 00:26:46.660
character voices like he did quickly felt like

00:26:46.660 –> 00:26:48.660
they were the wrong direction for me to go in.

00:26:49.359 –> 00:26:54.500
Yeah. And then obviously they did the little

00:26:54.500 –> 00:26:58.519
gag with you with putting your head. Oh, yes.

00:26:59.150 –> 00:27:04.190
Yes, Tom’s Home Movies, which they did that for

00:27:04.190 –> 00:27:07.769
a number of seasons until I begged them to stop.

00:27:10.609 –> 00:27:14.769
It was like, I think this horse is dead. We should

00:27:14.769 –> 00:27:18.150
stop beating it. But it worked for a long time.

00:27:18.210 –> 00:27:21.289
It was pretty funny, but I think it may have

00:27:21.289 –> 00:27:24.589
overstayed its welcome a little bit. So let’s

00:27:24.589 –> 00:27:29.480
dive into the zen of… You surviving Hollywood.

00:27:30.240 –> 00:27:33.500
See, I changed it just a little bit there for

00:27:33.500 –> 00:27:37.440
you. What was your process other than, you know,

00:27:37.440 –> 00:27:40.140
but that threatening you to do the book or, you

00:27:40.140 –> 00:27:42.559
know, beat you to death? Well, you know, when

00:27:42.559 –> 00:27:45.720
my agent at the time had taken a meeting with

00:27:45.720 –> 00:27:50.079
Harper Collins without telling me and and they

00:27:50.079 –> 00:27:54.740
expressed interest in in me doing a book and

00:27:54.740 –> 00:27:59.640
I was. uh not convinced myself so i said look

00:27:59.640 –> 00:28:03.740
let me let me write maybe 30 pages or something

00:28:03.740 –> 00:28:07.480
and uh i just want to see if it you know if it

00:28:07.480 –> 00:28:12.259
sounds like me it reads like i talk or it seems

00:28:12.259 –> 00:28:15.519
self -conscious and like i’m trying to write

00:28:15.519 –> 00:28:18.940
you know so i did 30 pages and i sent them to

00:28:19.759 –> 00:28:23.500
uh, a dear friend and the best judge of, uh,

00:28:23.539 –> 00:28:27.400
writing. I could think of Carl Reiner who created

00:28:27.400 –> 00:28:30.180
the Dick Van Dyke show and who directed Steve

00:28:30.180 –> 00:28:33.019
Martin in his first, uh, three movies, I think.

00:28:33.579 –> 00:28:37.980
And, uh, and I, I said to my agent, I said, if

00:28:37.980 –> 00:28:41.519
Carl doesn’t like it, there’s no book not gonna,

00:28:41.539 –> 00:28:46.500
you know, I trust his, his instinct and his response.

00:28:46.519 –> 00:28:49.160
Well, and then he, he, he, gave the pages to

00:28:49.160 –> 00:28:52.500
his late wife, Estelle, too, and they wrote me

00:28:52.500 –> 00:28:56.440
back and said, all we want to say is, more. I

00:28:56.440 –> 00:29:02.180
went, oh, okay. If Carl says go, I’ll go. That’s

00:29:02.180 –> 00:29:06.339
how that happened. That’s awesome. I was live

00:29:06.339 –> 00:29:10.059
messaging Mike earlier while I was re -listening

00:29:10.059 –> 00:29:13.420
to it, and I was like, one of my favorite parts

00:29:13.420 –> 00:29:15.339
was the portion of the Tropicana juice jump.

00:29:15.539 –> 00:29:18.329
Oh, yeah. Where you’re just like, I’m listening

00:29:18.329 –> 00:29:21.150
to this guy talk and I’m just like, nobody cares,

00:29:21.269 –> 00:29:23.890
blah, blah, blah. And I’m like, sometimes there’s

00:29:23.890 –> 00:29:26.470
like instances in life where I’m like, oh, come

00:29:26.470 –> 00:29:28.789
on this, you know, a meeting can be over this,

00:29:28.890 –> 00:29:31.750
you know, this could be over. And for you to

00:29:31.750 –> 00:29:34.670
just, you know, just dive in there. When I saw

00:29:34.670 –> 00:29:37.789
you jump into that orange juice, I knew the show

00:29:37.789 –> 00:29:42.529
was okay. That misdiagnosis of Fox After Breakfast

00:29:42.529 –> 00:29:45.349
fortunes came from Jim Cocott, one of Breakfast

00:29:45.349 –> 00:29:48.190
Time’s true treasures and one of the first casualties

00:29:48.190 –> 00:29:51.210
of the move to the network. He was referring

00:29:51.210 –> 00:29:53.710
to my decision on that morning’s live broadcast

00:29:53.710 –> 00:29:56.910
to jump into a few hundred gallons of vitamin

00:29:56.910 –> 00:30:00.309
C encased in a six -foot -tall Tropicana glass

00:30:00.309 –> 00:30:03.930
on Fifth Avenue. My co -host for the week, Robin

00:30:03.930 –> 00:30:06.470
Givens, and I were talking with a pediatrician

00:30:06.470 –> 00:30:09.130
about the importance of a healthy diet for children.

00:30:09.369 –> 00:30:12.009
The segment was a typical morning television

00:30:12.009 –> 00:30:14.950
journey into the obvious, and it was making my

00:30:14.950 –> 00:30:18.130
head hurt. I looked at the pediatrician. His

00:30:18.130 –> 00:30:21.589
lips seemed to be flapping in slow motion. Blah,

00:30:21.589 –> 00:30:25.750
blah, immune system, blah. I looked at the enormous

00:30:25.750 –> 00:30:28.990
glass of orange juice. What would you have done

00:30:28.990 –> 00:30:32.740
on breakfast time, I thought. I turned to our

00:30:32.740 –> 00:30:35.220
other guest, actor Gregory Harrison, who had

00:30:35.220 –> 00:30:38.160
joined us on the sidewalk. He could give me a

00:30:38.160 –> 00:30:41.460
ten -finger boost. I looked back at the pediatrician.

00:30:42.099 –> 00:30:47.440
Blah, blah, antioxidants, blah. Excuse me, I

00:30:47.440 –> 00:30:49.660
said, cutting him off. I have to be honest with

00:30:49.660 –> 00:30:51.259
you. I haven’t heard a word you’ve been saying.

00:30:51.400 –> 00:30:53.759
I keep looking at that glass of orange juice,

00:30:53.799 –> 00:30:56.299
and I keep thinking, when am I ever going to

00:30:56.299 –> 00:30:59.670
get a chance like this again? As I turned to

00:30:59.670 –> 00:31:01.950
Gregory Harrison to ask for help, I began to

00:31:01.950 –> 00:31:05.589
unclip my microphone from my shirt. In my IFB,

00:31:05.670 –> 00:31:08.109
the molded plastic earpiece that enables me to

00:31:08.109 –> 00:31:11.130
hear cues from the control room, Kim Swan, the

00:31:11.130 –> 00:31:13.710
show’s new executive producer, Peter Feynman

00:31:13.710 –> 00:31:16.130
having been fired by this point, began to yell,

00:31:16.269 –> 00:31:19.730
Don’t you dare! I yanked the IFB out of my ear.

00:31:21.009 –> 00:31:23.829
Placing my heel into Gregory’s interlaced hands,

00:31:24.009 –> 00:31:26.630
I was lifted to the top of the glass and climbed

00:31:26.630 –> 00:31:30.079
in. Then, Holding myself up for dramatic effect,

00:31:30.299 –> 00:31:33.720
I gave a three -two -one countdown and vanished

00:31:33.720 –> 00:31:37.660
into the juice. Displaced Tropicana gushed out

00:31:37.660 –> 00:31:40.400
of the glass and onto Fifth Avenue. I stayed

00:31:40.400 –> 00:31:43.000
under for a second, savoring the sting of the

00:31:43.000 –> 00:31:46.240
juice against my closed eyes, and then sprang

00:31:46.240 –> 00:31:49.220
back up from the bottom of the glass. I surfaced

00:31:49.220 –> 00:31:52.240
to the sounds of gasps, laughter, and applause

00:31:52.240 –> 00:31:56.970
from the guests and crew. I felt wonderful. Until

00:31:56.970 –> 00:31:59.349
after the show, that is. Well, there was a lot

00:31:59.349 –> 00:32:02.269
of subtext to that, too. If you recall in the

00:32:02.269 –> 00:32:08.190
book, that was a version of what is still my

00:32:08.190 –> 00:32:10.509
favorite experience in television, which was

00:32:10.509 –> 00:32:14.329
a cable show on FX called Breakfast Time. And

00:32:14.329 –> 00:32:19.049
the network wanted to take a version of that

00:32:19.049 –> 00:32:23.130
show to the network. And it turned out to be

00:32:23.130 –> 00:32:25.750
one of those be careful what you wish for scenarios,

00:32:25.849 –> 00:32:28.829
because the executive who greenlit us to come

00:32:28.829 –> 00:32:31.890
to the network in the interim between us wrapping

00:32:31.890 –> 00:32:34.630
up the cable show and getting ready to launch

00:32:34.630 –> 00:32:37.490
the network version, he went off to Paramount.

00:32:37.869 –> 00:32:42.650
So we were left in somebody else’s care and they

00:32:42.650 –> 00:32:45.849
didn’t particularly care for the project. So

00:32:45.849 –> 00:32:52.839
it turned into a pretty tense. And I had had

00:32:52.839 –> 00:32:57.420
it by the point that I was talking to this pediatrician

00:32:57.420 –> 00:33:01.140
on Fifth Avenue standing next to a six or seven

00:33:01.140 –> 00:33:06.799
foot tall Tropicana orange juice glass. And I

00:33:06.799 –> 00:33:08.599
just thought, you know, if this was the breakfast

00:33:08.599 –> 00:33:13.420
time show on FX, I I wouldn’t just I wouldn’t

00:33:13.420 –> 00:33:16.529
just. Stand here talking about the importance

00:33:16.529 –> 00:33:19.829
of vitamin C for kids. I would jump in that orange

00:33:19.829 –> 00:33:24.809
juice. So that’s exactly what I did. And and

00:33:24.809 –> 00:33:29.630
we had a guest who was there gave me 10 fingers

00:33:29.630 –> 00:33:31.710
up. I took off my microphone and everything.

00:33:31.990 –> 00:33:35.369
And in the book, you can actually see pictures

00:33:35.369 –> 00:33:39.630
of of of what happened. But, yeah, I just I dove

00:33:39.630 –> 00:33:44.059
in and it was great. I was just laughing as I

00:33:44.059 –> 00:33:47.299
was listening to that portion of it, imagining

00:33:47.299 –> 00:33:49.960
you doing that. But it was really me flipping

00:33:49.960 –> 00:33:54.279
off the network. I grabbed that aspect too, but

00:33:54.279 –> 00:33:57.630
it was still hilarious to listen to. Well, I

00:33:57.630 –> 00:33:59.849
mean, you’re going to pull one of those earwigs

00:33:59.849 –> 00:34:02.529
out of your ear that’s basically super glued

00:34:02.529 –> 00:34:05.730
in your ear with somebody screaming. Now, Tom,

00:34:05.849 –> 00:34:08.289
don’t you dare. Don’t you dare do it. Right.

00:34:08.409 –> 00:34:10.050
What are you going to do? You’re going to do

00:34:10.050 –> 00:34:14.969
it. Right. That’s always been a bad thing. If

00:34:14.969 –> 00:34:17.469
somebody says you can’t do it, then I’m going

00:34:17.469 –> 00:34:21.250
to find a way. For example, this came to mind.

00:34:21.289 –> 00:34:24.670
This is not quite on that level, but on the dancing

00:34:24.670 –> 00:34:27.380
show, for some reason, One of my last seasons,

00:34:27.460 –> 00:34:29.900
they thought it would be a good idea to put pretend

00:34:29.900 –> 00:34:34.260
martini glasses around the tables that were right

00:34:34.260 –> 00:34:37.260
along the ballroom floor. And they were real

00:34:37.260 –> 00:34:40.280
and they had, you know, like plastic colored

00:34:40.280 –> 00:34:44.179
juice in it or, you know, liquor in it. It was

00:34:44.179 –> 00:34:49.820
just it was all nonsense. So I just, you know,

00:34:49.820 –> 00:34:51.500
we came back from a commercial and I’m holding

00:34:51.500 –> 00:34:53.679
the glass and I’m just tipping it upside down

00:34:53.679 –> 00:34:56.150
and going. I’ll fake. I’ll fake. And I just put,

00:34:56.230 –> 00:35:02.949
just because it pissed me off. Well, there are

00:35:02.949 –> 00:35:06.570
better things to do on television. Like, you

00:35:06.570 –> 00:35:09.769
know, not telling you the air date of a certain

00:35:09.769 –> 00:35:12.570
show that, you know, you had two, you know, you

00:35:12.570 –> 00:35:14.530
had an X and an O that were really eccentric.

00:35:15.980 –> 00:35:19.420
Oh, man, that April Fool’s show. Oh, the April

00:35:19.420 –> 00:35:21.739
Fool’s show. That was brilliant that they really

00:35:21.739 –> 00:35:24.699
they completely smoked me on that. None of the

00:35:24.699 –> 00:35:27.219
stars in this. And by the way, this if you go

00:35:27.219 –> 00:35:31.539
to my website, the cleverly titled Tom Bergeron

00:35:31.539 –> 00:35:36.360
dot com, that episode is there. The the April

00:35:36.360 –> 00:35:40.340
Fool’s episode is there. And I also think the

00:35:40.340 –> 00:35:43.199
you fool episode with Gilbert was the last one.

00:35:43.760 –> 00:35:47.260
uh to be called on but the april fool they they

00:35:47.260 –> 00:35:50.239
came up with this cockamamie reason why we had

00:35:50.239 –> 00:35:53.500
to do teacher tuesdays for the month uh like

00:35:53.500 –> 00:35:57.239
of july of april and uh because it was april

00:35:57.239 –> 00:35:59.719
fools which i didn’t realize at the time and

00:35:59.719 –> 00:36:02.500
the two contestants who were supposedly teachers

00:36:02.500 –> 00:36:07.059
were really actors and very good actors and none

00:36:07.059 –> 00:36:11.260
of the stars knew uh including uh a pen and teller

00:36:11.260 –> 00:36:13.780
who made it make a career out of fooling people.

00:36:14.280 –> 00:36:17.940
And they were just brilliant. They just they

00:36:17.940 –> 00:36:21.539
completely fooled me to the point. And my wife

00:36:21.539 –> 00:36:24.340
was we were primarily living on the East Coast

00:36:24.340 –> 00:36:26.719
at that point. And I would fly out to shoot Hollywood

00:36:26.719 –> 00:36:29.340
Square. So my wife and daughters were visiting

00:36:29.340 –> 00:36:32.099
that weekend. And Henry Winkler, who was one

00:36:32.099 –> 00:36:34.199
of the two executive producers, said to Lois,

00:36:34.260 –> 00:36:37.059
I want you to come in the booth because he needed

00:36:37.059 –> 00:36:40.969
to tell her that it was all a put on. And at

00:36:40.969 –> 00:36:44.090
one point, because I was having fun, I thought,

00:36:44.130 –> 00:36:47.690
oh, my God, this is crazy. These people are belligerent.

00:36:47.710 –> 00:36:49.469
They’re, you know, the guy’s making the woman

00:36:49.469 –> 00:36:52.309
cry. But if I can get 22 and a half minutes of

00:36:52.309 –> 00:36:55.150
this, we can air it. You know, I don’t want to

00:36:55.150 –> 00:36:59.670
bag it because it’s great TV. So, you know, I

00:36:59.670 –> 00:37:02.369
was just making up, you know, ad libs like, you

00:37:02.369 –> 00:37:04.309
know, for this, I gave up the audition to Card

00:37:04.309 –> 00:37:08.050
Sharks or whatever. And at one point, Henry turned

00:37:08.050 –> 00:37:12.019
to Lois and said. He’s not going to stop. And

00:37:12.019 –> 00:37:16.340
Lois, who was a producer when we met, she went,

00:37:16.420 –> 00:37:18.780
no, he knows it’s good television. So finally,

00:37:18.800 –> 00:37:20.820
Henry had to come over the intercom and go, Tom,

00:37:20.860 –> 00:37:26.039
April fools. And my my immediate reaction was

00:37:26.039 –> 00:37:30.480
complete admiration for the two actors who had

00:37:30.480 –> 00:37:35.940
completely fooled all of us. Yeah, that that

00:37:35.940 –> 00:37:41.150
that was just. Just amazing. And you had mentioned

00:37:41.150 –> 00:37:43.409
in the book that Penn and Teller came up to you

00:37:43.409 –> 00:37:46.110
and said that we’ve been fooling people for years

00:37:46.110 –> 00:37:48.190
and even we didn’t figure it out. Like, if you

00:37:48.190 –> 00:37:51.150
can fool Penn and Teller, then… But then again,

00:37:51.269 –> 00:37:55.929
it is the Fonz. I mean, come on. The ultimate

00:37:55.929 –> 00:38:00.679
trickster in television. I’ll tell you, the two

00:38:00.679 –> 00:38:03.619
years, I had a great run of six years on that

00:38:03.619 –> 00:38:07.079
show. The first four were with Whoopi and Moffat

00:38:07.079 –> 00:38:10.000
Lee producing. And then the last two were Henry

00:38:10.000 –> 00:38:14.219
and Michael Levitt. And they had a very really

00:38:14.219 –> 00:38:19.420
lovely sort of embrace of not only the genre

00:38:19.420 –> 00:38:21.860
of game shows, but the history of game shows.

00:38:22.000 –> 00:38:25.800
So on one week, which was really just a day of

00:38:25.800 –> 00:38:28.449
taping, we would do all five in a day. Peter

00:38:28.449 –> 00:38:31.469
Marshall, who was the original host of Hollywood

00:38:31.469 –> 00:38:35.730
Squares, was our center square. And I asked him

00:38:35.730 –> 00:38:39.909
if he would be willing to swap, if he’d be willing

00:38:39.909 –> 00:38:43.690
to take the podium again. And hold on just a

00:38:43.690 –> 00:38:49.110
second. Hey, guys, I’m working here. And he did.

00:38:49.230 –> 00:38:52.250
He we swapped and he took he hosted and I went

00:38:52.250 –> 00:38:53.829
to the center square. And it was just such a

00:38:53.829 –> 00:38:55.869
treat for me, having grown up watching him host

00:38:55.869 –> 00:38:59.989
Hollywood Squares. in person hosting it well

00:38:59.989 –> 00:39:02.869
that and plus you’ve got to be the center square

00:39:02.869 –> 00:39:06.710
like yeah that wasn’t yeah that was okay yeah

00:39:06.710 –> 00:39:09.750
no i mean i i agree with what you’re saying like

00:39:09.750 –> 00:39:11.809
yes obviously you grew like you said you grew

00:39:11.809 –> 00:39:14.210
up with him watching him do it but like also

00:39:14.210 –> 00:39:19.429
you’re now a part of the show seeing the guy

00:39:19.429 –> 00:39:22.230
that you grew up watching the show like that’s

00:39:22.230 –> 00:39:25.190
the You could have been in the upper left or

00:39:25.190 –> 00:39:27.650
the lower right. It didn’t matter. It really

00:39:27.650 –> 00:39:30.250
didn’t. It really didn’t. It was just to watch

00:39:30.250 –> 00:39:33.190
him host, and he didn’t miss a trick. I would

00:39:33.190 –> 00:39:36.150
imagine he might have been a little concerned

00:39:36.150 –> 00:39:39.389
that he would forget how to do it, but he didn’t.

00:39:39.389 –> 00:39:43.010
It was like he had been doing it yesterday. Yeah,

00:39:43.010 –> 00:39:45.929
so before we switch gears, I am on your lovely

00:39:45.929 –> 00:39:49.250
website here, and I’m all the way down to the

00:39:49.250 –> 00:39:52.829
bottom. One more thing before you go. You wrote

00:39:52.829 –> 00:39:59.730
Superman into a dance show. Tim and Sam Daley.

00:40:00.469 –> 00:40:03.650
Tim Daley. Oh, yes. Oh, Tim Daley was the voice

00:40:03.650 –> 00:40:08.530
of Superman in 1996. Yeah. Well, that was that

00:40:08.530 –> 00:40:11.349
was a little web series that they were doing

00:40:11.349 –> 00:40:14.010
called The Daily Show. Yeah, I remember that.

00:40:14.010 –> 00:40:17.469
And and I was invited to be to be part of one

00:40:17.469 –> 00:40:20.559
episode. Whoopi had done one, too. And so the

00:40:20.559 –> 00:40:23.559
premise was I was trying to get him to be on

00:40:23.559 –> 00:40:26.900
Dancing with the Stars. But I was like I played

00:40:26.900 –> 00:40:30.440
it like I was some sort of strange dance mystic.

00:40:30.440 –> 00:40:36.929
You know, it was fun. That’s awesome. So before

00:40:36.929 –> 00:40:39.150
everything that’s happened over the last couple

00:40:39.150 –> 00:40:42.150
of years, had you attended any of the fan conventions

00:40:42.150 –> 00:40:45.550
or conventions in general as a fan or as a guest

00:40:45.550 –> 00:40:48.670
kind of thing? No, I hadn’t. And, you know, I

00:40:48.670 –> 00:40:53.929
had lunch with. It’s really nice to have become

00:40:53.929 –> 00:40:56.809
friends with people I grew up watching or just

00:40:56.809 –> 00:40:59.969
admired, whether I grew up watching them or came

00:40:59.969 –> 00:41:02.190
to know and appreciate them in adulthood. But

00:41:02.190 –> 00:41:04.949
Jonathan Frakes and I were having lunch and who

00:41:04.949 –> 00:41:07.909
was Riker on Star Trek The Next Generation. And

00:41:07.909 –> 00:41:09.469
he was saying, you know, hey, you did a couple

00:41:09.469 –> 00:41:12.449
episodes. You could go to conventions. I thought,

00:41:12.469 –> 00:41:15.030
well, I don’t know. You know, I don’t know. I

00:41:15.030 –> 00:41:18.550
think you’ve got to be a regular. Right. No,

00:41:18.650 –> 00:41:21.389
you could do it. So I might you never know, I

00:41:21.389 –> 00:41:24.170
might pop up with some two by four by sixes of

00:41:24.170 –> 00:41:28.530
me with my alien makeup on. I’m sure the fans

00:41:28.530 –> 00:41:31.230
would be ecstatic. Well, it would be fun. It’d

00:41:31.230 –> 00:41:33.769
just be fun to do it as as sort of, you know,

00:41:33.769 –> 00:41:37.829
a lark, I think. Absolutely. Bill, Bill is Shatner’s

00:41:37.829 –> 00:41:41.449
always jetting off to do another one. And he

00:41:41.449 –> 00:41:44.949
just did the Masked Singer, by the way. Did he

00:41:44.949 –> 00:41:48.750
really? He did. And I was just at his house last

00:41:48.750 –> 00:41:50.809
week for Monday Night Football. He never mentioned

00:41:50.809 –> 00:41:54.809
a word about it. And a few nights later, I see

00:41:54.809 –> 00:41:57.750
online that he had been unmasked. He was dressed

00:41:57.750 –> 00:42:00.949
in a night costume. And I texted him. I said,

00:42:01.030 –> 00:42:04.510
you son of a gun. I didn’t know you. I said,

00:42:04.530 –> 00:42:07.730
my my taco outfit was pretty claustrophobic.

00:42:07.809 –> 00:42:11.400
How was yours? He texted back. The worst experience

00:42:11.400 –> 00:42:16.000
I’ve ever had. And did he mean just the costume

00:42:16.000 –> 00:42:18.880
itself? Yeah, just the costume. Just how claustrophobic

00:42:18.880 –> 00:42:23.179
it was. No, the people. But he also was surprised,

00:42:23.400 –> 00:42:27.519
as I was. I thought, if I’m in this costume,

00:42:27.800 –> 00:42:32.320
I can prerecord my singing. And, you know, who’s

00:42:32.320 –> 00:42:33.840
going to be? And they said, oh, no, no, you’re

00:42:33.840 –> 00:42:38.050
going to sing live. Oh, OK. So that was an added,

00:42:38.090 –> 00:42:40.250
you know, you have no peripheral vision. I mean,

00:42:40.269 –> 00:42:45.010
certainly. And I did a Sinatra tune, which went

00:42:45.010 –> 00:42:49.710
well. An Elvis tune, which went less well. Try

00:42:49.710 –> 00:42:52.190
to shake your hips in a taco shell. Nobody can

00:42:52.190 –> 00:42:56.010
see it. It’s impossible. And I think Bill did.

00:42:56.230 –> 00:42:58.869
Well, Bill, he doesn’t sing in the he sort of

00:42:58.869 –> 00:43:02.070
sings like Rex Harrison. You know what I mean?

00:43:02.110 –> 00:43:06.719
He talks. Yeah. Like my fair lady, the rain in

00:43:06.719 –> 00:43:09.460
Spain, you know, all that stuff. But, yeah, he

00:43:09.460 –> 00:43:12.860
had the same experience as I did with the claustrophobia

00:43:12.860 –> 00:43:15.539
of it and the lack. But, you know, by the way,

00:43:15.679 –> 00:43:19.880
the guy is amazing. He’s 91 years old. Oh, yeah.

00:43:20.000 –> 00:43:22.159
You know, this is the year after he was shot

00:43:22.159 –> 00:43:26.239
up in a rocket. So I never I should never be

00:43:26.239 –> 00:43:29.059
surprised with what he’s willing to do. Yeah.

00:43:29.260 –> 00:43:32.920
Steve is a huge Trekkie. Yep. Oh, is that right?

00:43:33.099 –> 00:43:37.449
Oh, yeah. Yeah. I’m casual, but he’s all in.

00:43:37.670 –> 00:43:42.170
I’ve watched all of it. Yeah, yeah. What do you

00:43:42.170 –> 00:43:45.889
think of – Discovery I kind of was hot and cold

00:43:45.889 –> 00:43:48.329
on, but Strange New Worlds I like a lot. I love

00:43:48.329 –> 00:43:52.630
Strange New Worlds. It’s by far probably my favorite

00:43:52.630 –> 00:43:55.210
of everything that’s new that’s come out. Yeah,

00:43:55.210 –> 00:43:59.750
and it was interesting, too, to talk to Jonathan

00:43:59.750 –> 00:44:02.349
about because he’s directed a number of the different

00:44:02.349 –> 00:44:06.280
series. And will be featured prominently in season

00:44:06.280 –> 00:44:09.699
three of Picard. Yep. And Picard ran. You know,

00:44:09.719 –> 00:44:12.059
I kind of I liked it. And then I thought the,

00:44:12.119 –> 00:44:14.460
you know, spoiler alert, folks, if you haven’t

00:44:14.460 –> 00:44:16.840
watched it. But the end of the first season was

00:44:16.840 –> 00:44:19.440
weird. Yep. And then they never really address

00:44:19.440 –> 00:44:22.599
it in the second season at all. Yep. And and

00:44:22.599 –> 00:44:25.460
so I thought I thought it was an interesting

00:44:25.460 –> 00:44:30.760
experiment. I hope that they. they nail the landing

00:44:30.760 –> 00:44:33.480
with the season three reunion, you know, all

00:44:33.480 –> 00:44:36.500
the next generation cast coming back. I’m, I’m

00:44:36.500 –> 00:44:40.559
optimistic because season two, episode one, uh,

00:44:40.739 –> 00:44:43.179
I believe was written and directed by the guy

00:44:43.179 –> 00:44:46.360
that’s doing season three. Oh, good. And that

00:44:46.360 –> 00:44:48.559
was my favorite episode of season two. Yeah.

00:44:48.599 –> 00:44:51.519
You know, it’s interesting. Enterprise, um, was

00:44:51.519 –> 00:44:54.500
a show that it, it really, I don’t think found

00:44:54.500 –> 00:44:57.659
itself until season four by, by which point it

00:44:57.659 –> 00:45:02.769
was too late, but, You had a real old, the original

00:45:02.769 –> 00:45:08.789
series fan come in and kind of link the two better

00:45:08.789 –> 00:45:13.489
than they had in the first three seasons. I think

00:45:13.489 –> 00:45:15.969
the writing was on the wall at that point for

00:45:15.969 –> 00:45:18.329
that show. Yeah, well, there was a lot of changing

00:45:18.329 –> 00:45:21.630
hands as far as I heard at CBS and Paramount,

00:45:21.730 –> 00:45:25.929
so I think it was done. But I’m glad Trek’s back

00:45:25.929 –> 00:45:31.630
now. various flavors for animated and, and, uh,

00:45:31.750 –> 00:45:33.889
you know, into the future, into the past. I mean,

00:45:33.909 –> 00:45:38.030
it’s, it’s, it’s a good time. Definitely. And

00:45:38.030 –> 00:45:40.530
one last note on the mass signal. I had never

00:45:40.530 –> 00:45:42.909
seen it before. Like I seen bits and pieces of

00:45:42.909 –> 00:45:44.849
it, but I’ve never actually watched it, watched

00:45:44.849 –> 00:45:47.929
it. As soon as you opened your mouth, I was like,

00:45:47.929 –> 00:45:51.130
that’s Tom Bergeron. How does nobody know? Like

00:45:51.130 –> 00:45:53.309
I didn’t need any of the clues. I didn’t need

00:45:53.309 –> 00:45:55.510
the review. I’m like, that’s Tom Bergeron. Like,

00:45:57.099 –> 00:45:59.840
That’s funny. A buddy of mine in radio in New

00:45:59.840 –> 00:46:01.920
Hampshire nailed it right out of the gate too.

00:46:02.420 –> 00:46:05.639
I think it has to do with if you’re used to hearing

00:46:05.639 –> 00:46:08.940
someone’s voice and you can just pick it out.

00:46:09.119 –> 00:46:13.059
I can watch pretty much any animated series that

00:46:13.059 –> 00:46:17.460
has somebody tied to it from my childhood. Even

00:46:17.460 –> 00:46:21.739
if it’s a newer show. I think my kids were watching

00:46:21.739 –> 00:46:25.420
at one point VeggieTales or something and I was

00:46:25.420 –> 00:46:29.280
like, Rob Paulson. I was like, I was able to

00:46:29.280 –> 00:46:31.019
pick it out. Like, and you played four different

00:46:31.019 –> 00:46:33.159
characters. And I was like, I, you know, I’m

00:46:33.159 –> 00:46:35.519
like, I, I gotta go look this up on IMDB and,

00:46:35.539 –> 00:46:38.719
you know, and sure enough, I was right. There

00:46:38.719 –> 00:46:44.139
you go. Got a good ear, Steve. Yeah, I try. I’ll

00:46:44.139 –> 00:46:48.159
try. So what was it like working on Star Trek

00:46:48.159 –> 00:46:52.199
Enterprise? It was, it was such fun. It really

00:46:52.199 –> 00:46:55.829
was. It all happened quite, quite. By accident,

00:46:55.989 –> 00:47:02.050
Whoopi was doing a wedding scene in Nemesis,

00:47:02.190 –> 00:47:06.510
which was their last movie, the next generation

00:47:06.510 –> 00:47:08.929
cast. And we were shooting Hollywood Squared.

00:47:09.469 –> 00:47:12.590
And so I was going to be in town because I was

00:47:12.590 –> 00:47:15.849
also doing videos. So I wasn’t going to fly back

00:47:15.849 –> 00:47:18.750
to the East Coast. And she mentioned she was

00:47:18.750 –> 00:47:21.130
going to be at Paramount shooting the wedding

00:47:21.130 –> 00:47:25.610
scene for Nemesis. And I said, oh, yeah, I’d

00:47:25.610 –> 00:47:28.389
love to come by and and and watch. Oh, absolutely.

00:47:28.530 –> 00:47:31.369
So she got me a drive on. I hung out with the

00:47:31.369 –> 00:47:33.789
cast. It was wonderful. And it was clear they

00:47:33.789 –> 00:47:36.510
weren’t crazy about that director. You know,

00:47:36.510 –> 00:47:40.750
Baird, was it Stuart Baird? Yep. Yeah. Who had

00:47:40.750 –> 00:47:44.210
sort of a haughty attitude towards the whole

00:47:44.210 –> 00:47:46.110
thing, which I don’t think went down well. But

00:47:46.110 –> 00:47:50.590
in any case, Rick Berman came by and Buffy had

00:47:50.590 –> 00:47:54.360
asked to see the sets of Enterprise. So he came

00:47:54.360 –> 00:47:56.420
by in his golf cart during the meal break, and

00:47:56.420 –> 00:47:59.579
his kids had watched me on AFV, and he’d watched

00:47:59.579 –> 00:48:03.260
Hollywood Squares. So I decided to hop in the

00:48:03.260 –> 00:48:05.860
golf cart with Whoopi and Rick, and we went over

00:48:05.860 –> 00:48:10.039
to the Enterprise sets. Now, I had been watching

00:48:10.039 –> 00:48:12.420
Enterprise. Whoopi hadn’t seen the series yet.

00:48:12.900 –> 00:48:15.679
So we were going through engineering, and I’m

00:48:15.679 –> 00:48:17.260
going, oh, yeah, this is where the Sulaban come

00:48:17.260 –> 00:48:19.179
back from the 24th century, and they screw with

00:48:19.179 –> 00:48:23.610
the warp coil. I’m fully geeking out. And Rick

00:48:23.610 –> 00:48:27.429
said, Rick said, so you watch the show? I said,

00:48:27.469 –> 00:48:29.730
yeah, no, I like it. It’s interesting. It’s a

00:48:29.730 –> 00:48:32.170
prequel. It’s a sequel. It’s it’s like the Reese’s

00:48:32.170 –> 00:48:35.449
Peanut Butter Cup of Star Trek. And he said,

00:48:35.570 –> 00:48:41.230
you want to be on it? So he turns to Whoopi.

00:48:42.210 –> 00:48:46.190
Can he act? And she had only seen me at Lib on

00:48:46.190 –> 00:48:48.369
Hollywood Squares, but God bless her. She said,

00:48:48.409 –> 00:48:54.199
oh, he’s good. I know. I love that part. And

00:48:54.199 –> 00:48:57.800
so he said, all right, you know, we’ll be in

00:48:57.800 –> 00:48:59.980
touch in a few weeks. We’d love to have you be

00:48:59.980 –> 00:49:01.820
part of an episode. So I thought I’d be like

00:49:01.820 –> 00:49:03.760
a Klingon waving in the background or something

00:49:03.760 –> 00:49:08.099
like that. But I went for a wardrobe test and

00:49:08.099 –> 00:49:14.320
I was told that I was my character was in the

00:49:14.320 –> 00:49:18.500
entire opening scene, which was a lot more than

00:49:18.500 –> 00:49:21.500
I expected, to be honest. And and it turned out

00:49:21.500 –> 00:49:24.440
to be just a great time. Scott Bakula could not

00:49:24.440 –> 00:49:27.059
have been more welcoming. Everybody was great.

00:49:27.159 –> 00:49:30.800
I got there. I think my call was something like

00:49:30.800 –> 00:49:33.820
five in the morning or something. And it was

00:49:33.820 –> 00:49:37.780
four hours of makeup. And Rick said, let’s let’s

00:49:37.780 –> 00:49:41.300
keep his, you know, the center of his face recognizable,

00:49:41.900 –> 00:49:45.059
but go crazy elsewhere. So I had looked I looked

00:49:45.059 –> 00:49:48.940
like a sort of a turtle head version of me. Yep.

00:49:52.099 –> 00:49:55.920
If my mother made it a turtle, that’s what I

00:49:55.920 –> 00:50:01.300
would have looked like. Yeah, that’s definitely

00:50:01.300 –> 00:50:05.599
one of those dream goals, and it’s awesome you

00:50:05.599 –> 00:50:08.199
were able to do it. But to have Michael Westmore

00:50:08.199 –> 00:50:13.039
fussing over it, I mean, good God. I knew Mackenzie,

00:50:13.099 –> 00:50:17.400
his daughter, but I knew of the Westmore history

00:50:17.400 –> 00:50:21.639
in Hollywood. I mean, this is the first family

00:50:21.639 –> 00:50:24.820
of makeup in this town. And to have him applying

00:50:24.820 –> 00:50:27.960
pieces to me and talk at that hour of the morning,

00:50:28.039 –> 00:50:31.760
it was just such a treat. Absolutely. So switching

00:50:31.760 –> 00:50:35.019
gears just a little bit, what was your favorite

00:50:35.019 –> 00:50:38.900
show that you’ve hosted over all the years that

00:50:38.900 –> 00:50:41.039
you’ve done? It was The Breakfast Time on FX.

00:50:41.920 –> 00:50:46.199
About two years we did that. at the corner of

00:50:46.199 –> 00:50:48.860
26th and 5th in the Flatiron District of New

00:50:48.860 –> 00:50:54.079
York. And it was, you can find on YouTube compilation

00:50:54.079 –> 00:50:57.239
videos that give you a sense of how much freedom

00:50:57.239 –> 00:51:01.639
we had and how much mayhem we caused in the morning

00:51:01.639 –> 00:51:04.780
on that show. It was just wonderful. It really

00:51:04.780 –> 00:51:07.099
was. Well, it’s like, as you said in the book,

00:51:07.199 –> 00:51:11.519
most morning programs, anywhere from 5 to 9 a

00:51:11.519 –> 00:51:14.400
.m. that aren’t radio programs, but on television,

00:51:15.130 –> 00:51:17.389
It’s news. It’s giving you the headlines. It’s

00:51:17.389 –> 00:51:19.829
catching you up on what may have happened on

00:51:19.829 –> 00:51:21.889
the night before or whatever kind of thing. And

00:51:21.889 –> 00:51:26.050
with breakfast time was a whole other animal.

00:51:26.429 –> 00:51:29.369
Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Somebody said it was like a

00:51:29.369 –> 00:51:32.929
televised morning zoo radio show. So that there

00:51:32.929 –> 00:51:35.789
were elements of that, I think. Yeah, absolutely.

00:51:36.269 –> 00:51:39.090
So what’s what’s next for you? And, you know,

00:51:39.110 –> 00:51:41.210
what’s what’s a show that you’d love to host

00:51:41.210 –> 00:51:45.039
or be part of? There to be completely honest,

00:51:45.119 –> 00:51:48.539
there is no show that I have any burning desire

00:51:48.539 –> 00:51:52.579
to host. I, you know, I hosted things. This is

00:51:52.579 –> 00:51:57.880
my 50th year as a broadcaster. I started when

00:51:57.880 –> 00:52:05.900
I was 17. So and now I’m not 17. So there’s the

00:52:05.900 –> 00:52:09.360
honest to gosh, there’s no show. I mean. He’s

00:52:09.360 –> 00:52:12.119
open to being surprised, you know, because Dancing

00:52:12.119 –> 00:52:15.239
with the Stars came out of left field and that

00:52:15.239 –> 00:52:19.519
was a wonderful gift for many years. So, you

00:52:19.519 –> 00:52:21.880
know, I would never say never, but there’s no

00:52:21.880 –> 00:52:27.300
burning desire to host another show. And nor

00:52:27.300 –> 00:52:32.860
am I in any hurry to at all. Quiet, guys, please.

00:52:34.539 –> 00:52:39.389
I think my favorite. Because my buddy Josh and

00:52:39.389 –> 00:52:42.510
his wife Anissa, they are huge dancing fans.

00:52:42.789 –> 00:52:45.789
And I had said to him before we were going to

00:52:45.789 –> 00:52:48.949
do this, I said, if you have any specific dancing

00:52:48.949 –> 00:52:53.289
questions, let me know beforehand. And everything

00:52:53.289 –> 00:52:56.210
he was asking is everything that you were talking

00:52:56.210 –> 00:53:01.289
about in the book. And yeah, for me, it’s not

00:53:01.289 –> 00:53:02.889
that I didn’t want to watch the show. It’s just

00:53:02.889 –> 00:53:07.099
I was moving out of like for me now. I don’t

00:53:07.099 –> 00:53:09.780
do appointment television. I want it when I want

00:53:09.780 –> 00:53:13.159
to watch it, and I want it without ads. I understand

00:53:13.159 –> 00:53:16.199
why there are ads, but I don’t mind paying for

00:53:16.199 –> 00:53:20.900
an ad -free service. And I think the only two

00:53:20.900 –> 00:53:25.639
times I caught it were Bindi’s final performance

00:53:25.639 –> 00:53:29.260
when she was on. Oh, yeah. And then the Super

00:53:29.260 –> 00:53:34.940
Mario Brothers video. I loved that. That was

00:53:34.940 –> 00:53:38.659
awesome. Yeah. Bindi Bindi Irwin, you’re talking

00:53:38.659 –> 00:53:42.099
about who won her season with. Yes, she did.

00:53:42.260 –> 00:53:46.059
And she just lovely. The whole family is just

00:53:46.059 –> 00:53:50.219
a girl. I think I think her brother was. I don’t

00:53:50.219 –> 00:53:53.119
think he’s on this season, which they’re doing

00:53:53.119 –> 00:53:55.639
on Disney Plus now, but he was rumored to be

00:53:55.639 –> 00:53:58.480
doing. Yeah, she was great. So whenever she and

00:53:58.480 –> 00:54:00.739
her mom and brother would visit in subsequent

00:54:00.739 –> 00:54:03.940
seasons, I would. pull her out of the audience

00:54:03.940 –> 00:54:06.679
to, like, toss to a commercial or welcome us

00:54:06.679 –> 00:54:10.400
back. And, you know, I would keep saying, you

00:54:10.400 –> 00:54:12.420
know, you’re going to be my hosting Padawan.

00:54:14.679 –> 00:54:19.039
Nice. You could have almost done that with the

00:54:19.039 –> 00:54:21.719
person in the audience at Hollywood, too, because

00:54:21.719 –> 00:54:24.219
in that April Fool’s show, I was trying to get

00:54:24.219 –> 00:54:26.920
a picture of your face with your finger up, because

00:54:26.920 –> 00:54:29.619
when you walk off stage and you address the audience.

00:54:31.360 –> 00:54:34.940
As you’re about to walk away, you hear somebody

00:54:34.940 –> 00:54:38.519
say something to you about it being your fault

00:54:38.519 –> 00:54:40.380
or something, and you just turn. You have this

00:54:40.380 –> 00:54:42.960
really stern look. You put your – I didn’t do

00:54:42.960 –> 00:54:45.320
it. It wasn’t my fault. Yeah, yeah. I remember

00:54:45.320 –> 00:54:49.159
that, yeah. All said and good fun, but yeah.

00:54:49.219 –> 00:54:52.199
Well, yes. No, obviously, yeah. But like – I

00:54:52.199 –> 00:54:56.519
was just like, oh, my God, his face. It was great

00:54:56.519 –> 00:55:01.159
because I felt like the audience and I and the

00:55:01.159 –> 00:55:04.579
celebrities and the stars, we had all bonded

00:55:04.579 –> 00:55:07.900
in this sort of bubble of confusion. Like, what

00:55:07.900 –> 00:55:13.739
the hell is going on here? But again, the part

00:55:13.739 –> 00:55:17.880
of me that is the producer part of my head thought,

00:55:17.920 –> 00:55:19.860
we got to just keep going because this is great.

00:55:20.059 –> 00:55:22.909
This is good TV. At that point, I thought they

00:55:22.909 –> 00:55:29.030
were legitimate assholes. Wall -to -wall proctologists.

00:55:29.449 –> 00:55:32.170
Yeah, but what they really were were really wonderful

00:55:32.170 –> 00:55:36.130
actors completely snowing all of us. Absolutely.

00:55:38.150 –> 00:55:41.510
So when’s the second book coming? Is there a

00:55:41.510 –> 00:55:44.699
second coming of Tom Bergeron? You know, it’s

00:55:44.699 –> 00:55:47.679
interesting. I during the early months of the

00:55:47.679 –> 00:55:53.059
pandemic, I started to write a comic novel called

00:55:53.059 –> 00:55:56.539
Drive Time about which was inspired by my my

00:55:56.539 –> 00:56:00.519
teenage years in radio. And I got I think I got

00:56:00.519 –> 00:56:04.320
about 70 pages into it. And to be completely

00:56:04.320 –> 00:56:09.280
honest, I just lost I lost interest. Honestly,

00:56:09.559 –> 00:56:13.010
if you give that a second look. Yeah. That could

00:56:13.010 –> 00:56:20.869
be most usually 24. That could be something like

00:56:20.869 –> 00:56:23.750
five or six or seven issues, what you already

00:56:23.750 –> 00:56:28.769
have. That’s 70 pages. Collected editions are

00:56:28.769 –> 00:56:31.309
usually six issues. It’s usually like 100 and

00:56:31.309 –> 00:56:33.889
something pages. So you probably have enough

00:56:33.889 –> 00:56:35.710
material where you could essentially release

00:56:35.710 –> 00:56:39.449
four individual comic issues. Oh, so I just need

00:56:39.449 –> 00:56:41.820
to get a good illustrator. Mike knows people.

00:56:42.039 –> 00:56:46.380
Oh, Mike, we should talk. Hey, you give me Shatner’s

00:56:46.380 –> 00:56:50.360
number, I’ll give you in touch with Mike. And

00:56:50.360 –> 00:56:54.460
now, welcome to Bartering for a Career. Oh, I

00:56:54.460 –> 00:56:58.159
don’t want a career. I just want to have Steve

00:56:58.159 –> 00:57:03.480
talk to him. I got to tell you, he is an absolute

00:57:03.480 –> 00:57:08.679
hoot and just amazing and just a genetic anomaly.

00:57:08.900 –> 00:57:12.019
I mean, seriously. Every interview I have ever

00:57:12.019 –> 00:57:17.960
seen him do, he is so animated and up. He does

00:57:17.960 –> 00:57:20.840
not look his age. He does not act his age. No,

00:57:20.940 –> 00:57:24.139
not at all. He’s Captain Kirk, man. Well, I know.

00:57:24.460 –> 00:57:28.619
I understand that. And he told me when he went

00:57:28.619 –> 00:57:33.329
up in the – well, I called it the – a Bezos penis

00:57:33.329 –> 00:57:37.610
rocket, but technically something else, but it

00:57:37.610 –> 00:57:40.030
does look like a circumcised dick. I mean, come

00:57:40.030 –> 00:57:43.429
on. But anyway, when they, they delayed the launch,

00:57:43.550 –> 00:57:46.590
uh, for some, you know, I think weather reasons.

00:57:47.050 –> 00:57:50.630
And then, uh, so I was, I was on the blue origin

00:57:50.630 –> 00:57:55.070
website, uh, at our house back East. And my wife

00:57:55.070 –> 00:57:59.630
was watching as well. And, and, uh, uh, Liz Shatner

00:57:59.630 –> 00:58:02.500
was watching in studio. So, So we’re watching

00:58:02.500 –> 00:58:05.739
our friend or husband, you know, get into this

00:58:05.739 –> 00:58:10.519
capsule at 90 years old. And they stopped the

00:58:10.519 –> 00:58:13.780
countdown with about, like, I don’t know, five

00:58:13.780 –> 00:58:16.960
minutes left or less. And Bill told me later

00:58:16.960 –> 00:58:20.860
that they came over the capsule intercom and

00:58:20.860 –> 00:58:24.480
said, we don’t think this is anything to worry

00:58:24.480 –> 00:58:26.880
about. But if anybody would like to get out now,

00:58:27.199 –> 00:58:31.420
I thought, oh, my God. And, of course, he’s got

00:58:31.420 –> 00:58:34.599
to be thinking, I’m Captain Kirk. Do I want to

00:58:34.599 –> 00:58:37.300
skulk out of a capsule just before it shoots

00:58:37.300 –> 00:58:40.960
into space? That won’t look good. So, yeah, of

00:58:40.960 –> 00:58:43.579
course, everything went fine. The whole flight

00:58:43.579 –> 00:58:47.079
is like 17 minutes. Yeah. And you’re weightless

00:58:47.079 –> 00:58:50.539
for about four. And then, you know, it went off

00:58:50.539 –> 00:58:54.059
without a hitch. And it was a great relief to

00:58:54.059 –> 00:58:57.300
see him come out of the capsule. Yeah, absolutely.

00:58:58.989 –> 00:59:02.250
All right, before we let you go, remind everyone

00:59:02.250 –> 00:59:06.210
what you have coming up. You know, the projects

00:59:06.210 –> 00:59:08.449
I’m working on, well, the New Hampshire Film

00:59:08.449 –> 00:59:11.510
Festival, for those in the East Coast, I would

00:59:11.510 –> 00:59:15.010
recommend any year, whether I’m there or not,

00:59:15.110 –> 00:59:19.650
because you’re in coastal New Hampshire. It’s

00:59:19.650 –> 00:59:24.420
the beginning of… Fall foliage season. The

00:59:24.420 –> 00:59:27.539
film festival itself has grown by leaps and bounds.

00:59:27.800 –> 00:59:30.300
It took a bit of a hiccup during pandemic like

00:59:30.300 –> 00:59:33.320
everything did. But we’ll be screening that web

00:59:33.320 –> 00:59:37.500
series down the middle. And then we have the

00:59:37.500 –> 00:59:40.280
project that Bill and I are working on a film

00:59:40.280 –> 00:59:42.800
idea with Village Roadshow, which is moving far

00:59:42.800 –> 00:59:45.639
slower than we would have liked. But it is moving.

00:59:45.679 –> 00:59:50.019
So no definite date on that. But we are people

00:59:50.019 –> 00:59:52.630
writing a screenplay right now. Very cool, very

00:59:52.630 –> 00:59:55.809
cool. Would you do us the honor of tossing to

00:59:55.809 –> 00:59:58.130
our commercial break, please, sir? Absolutely.

00:59:58.230 –> 01:00:00.610
How would you like me to do that? Any way you

01:00:00.610 –> 01:00:06.150
want. What’s the name of the podcast? No, just

01:00:06.150 –> 01:00:09.230
do the traditional, we’ll be back after. Just

01:00:09.230 –> 01:00:13.730
make it Tom style. Okay, all right. We’ll be

01:00:13.730 –> 01:00:16.750
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Alright, we are back and… Whoa, whoa, whoa.

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That was great. We would like to thank Mr. Bergeron

01:03:39.539 –> 01:03:40.960
for taking the time to chat with us. Oh, Tom,

01:03:40.960 –> 01:03:44.219
not Mr. Bergeron, just Tom. Mr. Bergeron was

01:03:44.219 –> 01:03:47.460
your father, I assume? Yes, that’s right. Well,

01:03:49.139 –> 01:03:52.019
that’s usually how I end it all. But anyway,

01:03:52.239 –> 01:03:56.739
we would like to thank the man who is hosting

01:03:56.739 –> 01:03:59.059
as fast as he can, or who he used to be hosting

01:03:59.059 –> 01:04:03.360
as fast as he can, Tom Bergeron. This has been…

01:04:03.840 –> 01:04:07.579
An amazing, amazing, amazing time, because like

01:04:07.579 –> 01:04:10.519
I said at the beginning of this, I grew up watching

01:04:10.519 –> 01:04:13.519
you and never really had any inspiration to be

01:04:13.519 –> 01:04:16.059
a podcast or anything like I mean, I had inspiration,

01:04:16.139 –> 01:04:19.159
but I never like figured 13 years later we would

01:04:19.159 –> 01:04:23.719
be here. Like people asked me when I told a select

01:04:23.719 –> 01:04:27.940
few friends that we were going to be interviewing

01:04:27.940 –> 01:04:32.610
you. And I’m just like. As I told him, I’m like,

01:04:32.690 –> 01:04:34.449
oh, yeah, and by the way, Monday, this is all

01:04:34.449 –> 01:04:38.329
in lower caps. On Monday, I’m going to be interviewing,

01:04:38.389 –> 01:04:45.389
all caps, Tom Bergeron. And like I said, my buddy

01:04:45.389 –> 01:04:49.090
Josh and his lovely wife, Vanessa, have watched

01:04:49.090 –> 01:04:51.309
you throughout the entirety of Dancing with the

01:04:51.309 –> 01:04:55.349
Stars when you were on it. And he was like, oh,

01:04:55.389 –> 01:04:58.150
my God. He was like, can I listen in? Can I be?

01:04:58.519 –> 01:05:01.199
I’m like, if it was just me, Josh, if I didn’t

01:05:01.199 –> 01:05:04.440
already have Steve here, because the technology

01:05:04.440 –> 01:05:08.599
we’re using with this, it’s worse than two cans

01:05:08.599 –> 01:05:13.300
and a wire. Sometimes. It can be. Yes, it can

01:05:13.300 –> 01:05:15.860
be. Well, it was a pleasure. I mean, it was a

01:05:15.860 –> 01:05:19.159
very fast hour, and I enjoyed myself. I’m glad

01:05:19.159 –> 01:05:21.820
we did this. Yes, me too. I’m glad you were able

01:05:21.820 –> 01:05:25.300
to be a part of this with us. Yes, absolutely.

01:05:25.559 –> 01:05:29.199
So we will catch you next time here on Altered

01:05:29.199 –> 01:05:32.719
Geek and Geekcast Radio. I have no idea what’s

01:05:32.719 –> 01:05:35.119
going on, what’s coming up next for Altered Geek.

01:05:35.119 –> 01:05:37.579
That’s Steve’s thing, Geekcast Radio. The next

01:05:37.579 –> 01:05:40.900
episode, I hope, will be my buddy Terry Smith

01:05:40.900 –> 01:05:43.639
from Music Talks Podcast and I talking about

01:05:43.639 –> 01:05:48.019
a live concert experience that we had over…

01:05:48.670 –> 01:05:51.130
The Internet, because that’s how things are.

01:05:51.190 –> 01:05:53.150
That’s how I watch things now. I don’t do anything.

01:05:53.329 –> 01:05:56.250
I don’t leave my house. I don’t have to leave

01:05:56.250 –> 01:05:59.230
my apartment. I don’t. I have everything delivered

01:05:59.230 –> 01:06:02.949
and everything else like that. Yeah, it just

01:06:02.949 –> 01:06:05.969
is what it is. So unleash the geek in you and

01:06:05.969 –> 01:06:08.809
we will catch you next time. All right, Steve,

01:06:08.929 –> 01:06:09.530
Mike, a pleasure.