Intro a Franchise

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Hey, this is Steve Bloom, and you are listening

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to the Geekcast Radio Network. and welcome to

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the Cyber Dragon Ball. I’m your host, Steve,

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or I should change my name for this show, Majin

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Phillips, and joining me is… I would be Master

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Birdman, because I’m the perverted older man

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who will teach you the Kami Kami Ha or the Turtle

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Dragon Wave, and that’s how I roll. Hey, and

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you wouldn’t be that much different from Master

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Roshi, so… Yep. It’s only when you see porn.

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So, I guess jumping into the gist of this show

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is, this episode is going to be a light overview

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of our experience with Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball

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Z, and so on. Each episode will more or less

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take a stance of, in the vein of our review shows,

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we’re going to be doing this in Saga. Because

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we all know that it can take, you know, 20 episodes

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to get to the end of a particular saga. Depending

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on how much screaming they get through. So we’re

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going to go that route. So like the, you know,

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the Raditz, you know, Saiyan saga and then the

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Vegeta saga and so on. I have an official breakdown

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on another. I just have to dig it out. Too lazy

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to do it tonight. I mentioned to you off air

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that I happen to have a Pojo Dragon Ball magazine.

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1996. This particular issue I have, it’s the

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515 character bios. It is from May 15, 2001.

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I still have this magazine. It’s in pretty damn

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good condition, which is actually funny. I’ve

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had it in a notebook for years because I used

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to write Dragon Ball Z fan fiction. You friggin’

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nerd! Yeah. Well, what’s funny is when I was

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in middle school, my friend that I had during

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that time used to write… In collaboration with

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me, we’d write Dragon Ball Z Mega Man X crossover

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fanfiction. Then we’d introduce slowly our own

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characters into the mix. He at one point passed

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the series on to me, and then I continued it.

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I finished one of his fanfics, and then I continued

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on beyond that. Then I had this whole mapped

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out plan, and then I never executed it. So I

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had this magazine as a reference guide. So what

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are your experiences or how did you get into

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the land of Dragon Ball? For me, it started back

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in the 90s. I was in high school, probably about

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grade 9 or 10. I remember hanging out with my

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friends Brad and Ben. And at the time, my parents

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had satellite, but they didn’t have cable. I

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know you could have one or the other. And I didn’t

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get a chance to see a lot of really cool cartoons.

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So my friend Brad, I think it was, it was either

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Brad or Ben, loaned me a VHS tape of Dragon Ball

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Z. And it was something they recorded off of

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a channel up here in Canada called YTV, which

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would be equivalent to your Nickelodeon, more

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or less. And I was like, holy shit, what the

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hell is this? And it was so cool. So I started

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boring. more and more tapes from ben at this

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point and he loaned me all the tapes up until

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just before goku goes super saiyan in frieza

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and i never saw past that until years upon years

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later and it wasn’t until i went to an anime

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convention uh anime north in 1998 i remember

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this because i bought a bunch of cds off a guy

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who had dragon ball z in these little 2×40 window

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thumbnail clips that were real player format

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and they were subtitled you couldn’t yeah you

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couldn’t oh wow real player crap on these things

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and i was like oh my god this is so cool and

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then i saw like the majin buu stuff i saw all

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that happen and then the final wouldn’t call

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it nail in the coffin experience with Dragon

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Ball is there was an RPG company in the 90s,

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Talosian or Talosian, I don’t know. They’re the

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same people that make Cyberpunk 2020. They produced

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a Dragon Ball Z RPG. An actual pen and paper

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role -playing game. Which is the most unbalanced

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thing you can possibly imagine. Like, you were

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literally throwing attacks that could range in

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the hundreds of dice and just The game mechanics

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are complete garbage, but the fact that they

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had it was amazing. And even back then, they

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had the age -old question, could Goku beat Superman?

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And there’s actually one section in one of the

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books where it says, in all technicality, Krillin

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could hand Superman his booty in a super -powered

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sack. And that’s the exact quote from the book.

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And I’m thinking, man, that’s really weird. So,

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yeah, that’s mostly my experiences with early

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Dragon Ball. However, though, as the years have

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gone by through doing This Week in Geek, I’ve

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actually become friends with a number of the

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Dragon Ball Z voice cast. I’m friends with Sean

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Schemmel, who plays Goku in the Funimation dub.

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I’m friends with Kyle Hebert, who was the original

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Dragon Ball Z announcer. He plays Gohan. Teen

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Gohan. He was also Ox King in the Dragon Ball

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Z Kai dub. I want to say he plays Pycon as well,

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but I want to say that might be Chris Sabbath.

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And randomly, Chuck Hubert. I did some work for

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him way, way back. And you may know him as Garlic

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Jr. or Android 17. So yeah, it’s been really

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weird. I’ve always had the peripheral of Dragon

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Ball Z in my life. Best experience is when Goku

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stole my mic. I was recording at a convention

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back in 2007 or 2008, and I’m interviewing Sean,

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and I have this device called a Morant, which

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is like a digital field recorder. And he’s like,

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hey, you, Birdman, hold on a minute. I’ll be

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right back. And he literally takes my mic and

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runs away for like 10 or 15 minutes. And it’s

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just him babbling in it as Arnold Schwarzenegger,

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as Nicolas Cage, as Christopher Walken. He’s

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just… saying random shit for 15 minutes like

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giving us like really weird like um audio promos

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for our show he called me steve he called me

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mike e honda dodd and steve a film negative sailor

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and it was just very very very odd and uh sean

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is a one -of -a -kind man let me tell you that

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much um and yeah that’s that’s dragon ball in

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me Okay, and for me, I remember watching back

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when Ian James Perlite was Goku. I remember being

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pissed off when it became Sean, and then going

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back, I’m like, you know, Ian wasn’t all that

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good. Well, and I don’t think it was even him.

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Like, it was just, it was that dubbing studio

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that did it. And he, I think he did well for

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what it was, but you could tell it was him. like

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i was like oh it’s megaman and and cheetor and

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and i was like oh okay it’s he’s playing goku

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too and then when uh you know because all i think

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as far as i got was like just the vegeta battle

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like before namik um with with him playing goku

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and then they changed it to sean shemel and i

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was to begin with was a little peeved and wasn’t

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happy about it but then I can’t imagine anybody

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else besides Sean Schimmel playing Goku and Chris

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Sabat playing Vegeta. I remember when they changed

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the voice from Brian Drummond, who played Vegeta,

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to Chris Sabat. I was like, man, that’s really

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weird. And then even looking back on that, I

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can’t picture anybody else playing him either.

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But the meme, it’s over 9 ,000, sounds way better

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with Brian Drummond. I don’t know why. It just

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does. Oh, yeah. Well, I think it was the guttural,

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It’s over 9 ,000! Like, just… So, I mean, it

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was just… It was crazy, but that’s why it was

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such a popular meme, was just because of the

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strength and intensity that went into that voice.

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I also remember when they changed Krillin’s voice,

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and I remember thinking, I don’t know which one

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I like better. They actually both sound kind

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of totally appropriate for the character. But

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I remember specifically when those voices all

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changed. It was like halfway through Namek. And

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you’re like, hey, where’d Sheetor go? And all

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this crap. And everybody’s voice was so different.

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Yet, consistently, I’m pretty sure the woman

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who did Gohan did it all the way through Cell.

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I’m pretty sure it was still her. Colleen something.

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Oh, yeah. Yeah, I’m… I… This show, like…

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There was a point in time that when I watched,

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I used to record the episodes on VHS because

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most of the time I wouldn’t catch them because

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they would come on right around dinner time at

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home. So I would always miss the episodes and

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I’d get so mad if I missed one. And I was like,

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I can’t miss it, blah, blah, blah. Back in the

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pre -DVR days for you people, you had to actually

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program a VCR and hope that the tape recorded.

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and hope that somebody didn’t change the channel

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on you. So I had that. And then in school, I

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knew so much about it because, one, the internet

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was kind of, you know, it was kind of getting

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out there for the most part. I frequented so

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many Dragon Ball Z sites and soaked up as much

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information as I could on the show that I was

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the go -to reference guy at school. for younger

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and older students that wanted to know anything

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about the series. So I was kind of that go -to.

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And then I’d have to sit there and explain all

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the differences in the sagas and their powers

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and who has this and who does what and how some

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of their names are after vegetables or after

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musical instruments or just various factoids

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like that. Definitely one of the highlights of

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my childhood. And then I actually ran a Dragon

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Ball Z website, which actually spawned from writing

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the fanfiction. So to begin with, it was called

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Majin Phillips and Baby Gojitos, or Bilby Kilburn’s

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Dragon Ball Z GT website, which later on got

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renamed to the Cyber Dragon Ball. To shorten

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it up. Hence the name of the show. And then I

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changed it later again. To the Dark Dragon Ball.

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When I was running it solo. But I got bored.

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And went on to Transformers by then. But I also

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watched all of the Dragon Ball Z Saga. So there

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was nothing left to watch. Because I don’t acknowledge

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GT. I think GT to a certain extent. Does get

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kind of a bad rap. I do kind of like Pan. Actually.

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I think that that and the Super Saiyan 4 were

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about the only positive thing about the show.

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Super Android 17 was kind of cool, but Baby was

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stupid. Yeah, Baby was stupid, and I liked that

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Trunks got to play kind of a front -running role

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to kind of replace his dad, in a sense, and kind

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of Gohan and some of those other guys. So it

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was a nice dynamic. I wasn’t happy about him

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being a kid again. Yeah, I thought that was a

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bit of a step backwards. But then again, I guess

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I’m happy having Goku alive than be an angel

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500 years in the future sort of thing. So I was

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better. I was more happy with that. But I don’t

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know. I mean, it’s funny. I never much cared

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for the original Dragon Ball series. Like the

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one that was all kind of cutesy. Yeah, I’m not

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really a fan of that either. But the dice have

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some pretty cool fights in it. In fact… One

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of the things that really got me more into Dragon

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Ball than anything else was the video games.

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Almost all of them were done by Atari, I think.

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The one that I liked, and I think it was the

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best. I still think it’s the best Dragon Ball

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Z game, and I’m really sad that I sold it. It

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was for the PS2, and it was called Dragon Ball

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Z Budokai Tenkaichi 3. That had a… Yes, it

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was. That was such an awesome game. You went

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through the entirety. of every Dragon Ball fight.

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You also went through several what -if scenarios.

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And you get to do some of the GT. The only other

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game that comes close would be Dragon Ball Z

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Xenoverse, and that came out last year for the

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next -gen consoles. And it’s an amazing game

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in its own right, too. I haven’t… I haven’t

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had a chance to play it yet, although I do own

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it. I bought that game actually used, so that

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was kind of nice. And then I bought one before

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that, and I can’t remember for the life of me

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what it was. It wasn’t that, but it came out.

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Raging Blast? Maybe? You’ll probably recognize

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it when I say it. It was one of the… I would

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recognize it, but I can’t. The last one that

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was released for the PS2 was Dragon Ball Z Another

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World. It was garbage and a half. Raging Blast

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and Raging Burst… Sorry, Burst Limit and Raging

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Blast both built upon similar mechanics. They

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weren’t bad games. They weren’t great. It took

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the series to go back to Xenoverse before it

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got good. And let’s not even talk about the Dragon

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Ball Z Kinect game, which is so ridiculous. In

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fact, I remember getting the press kit for that

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game. You got a scouter with it, fake Goku hair,

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and a headband. And I remember just looking at

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this mail. The FedEx guy hands me this Dragon

00:16:37.610 –> 00:16:40.230
Ball Z envelope. I’m thinking, what the hell

00:16:40.230 –> 00:16:45.309
is this? Yeah, awkward day is awkward. I remember

00:16:45.309 –> 00:16:48.190
sitting around my apartment at the time, because

00:16:48.190 –> 00:16:50.750
I was still in college with this, looking at

00:16:50.750 –> 00:16:53.409
my friends. And I’m like, all right, so who wants

00:16:53.409 –> 00:16:55.509
to be the first asshole to try this? And everyone’s

00:16:55.509 –> 00:17:03.539
like, nope. I don’t know if you remember any

00:17:03.539 –> 00:17:07.960
of the imported emulators of the Super NES games.

00:17:08.240 –> 00:17:09.660
I remember playing those in my high school cafeteria

00:17:09.660 –> 00:17:12.980
because someone was too cool to have a laptop

00:17:12.980 –> 00:17:17.059
running it in my high school cafeteria. We played

00:17:17.059 –> 00:17:22.660
that during lunches. Yeah, I used to play some

00:17:22.660 –> 00:17:25.400
of these games back when I was… Because I used

00:17:25.400 –> 00:17:27.400
to run an emulator site, so I used to get those

00:17:27.400 –> 00:17:32.460
all over the place too. They… There was one

00:17:32.460 –> 00:17:36.180
with cards. You had to play with cards to decide

00:17:36.180 –> 00:17:39.700
the moves that you did. And it goes all the way

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through Super Saiyan and defeating Frieza and

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then that’s the end of the game. And then there

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was a couple other fighting games that were on

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the Sega Genesis that was like… It’s almost

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like a Hyper Dimension or something like that.

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But it was such an awesome game, and that’s where

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I learned to button mash for the first time.

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And then I started figuring out how to actually

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play. Because I’d never played a fighting game

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until Dragon Ball Z. And to this day, that is

00:18:12.180 –> 00:18:14.859
the only game I will get that is a button mash

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fighter game. Because I enjoy the tournaments

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of it. Well, I should say that the only other

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game that I would play is… smash brothers but

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this is for an actual fighting game this is what

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i go to and i did figure out what game i bought

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that it was ultimate tenkaichi i’m trying to

00:18:36.029 –> 00:18:40.970
remember if that one was good or not yeah it

00:18:40.970 –> 00:18:44.289
was okay i the expectations for it that i had

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were not as good as um because a lot of the the

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fighting a lot of the the the stuff you had it

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would either lock on aim or you would have that’s

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right i remember the fighting being incredibly

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frustrating in that game and that was part of

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the problem and then they had timed things so

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like you had to hit the the like you know xyz

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you know or or the certain colors or whatever

00:19:12.420 –> 00:19:16.599
of the buttons uh or x y a b or something in

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a random order and if you didn’t it you’d get

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smashed by a hit or you you would have like a

00:19:22.559 –> 00:19:24.519
side scroller because you had to fight like hildegard

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and you had to fight like the the uzar and you

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had to fight um uh like stuff from the from the

00:19:31.680 –> 00:19:34.740
movies in the game and i was kind of like and

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then it wouldn’t let you get to like gt characters

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so you couldn’t use or something like that super

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saiyan 4 Yeah, something like that. I think you

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could use… Maybe you could use Gogeta. I can’t

00:19:45.890 –> 00:19:48.150
remember, but it’s been a while since I played

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it. But I know you couldn’t play the actual sagas

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of some of the stuff. And so it kind of… It

00:19:53.329 –> 00:19:55.970
didn’t really mesh well with me. Whereas when

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I played… Because I’d played sagas too at one

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point, and that wasn’t all that great. But I’d

00:20:02.089 –> 00:20:05.210
played Budokai, Budokai 2, and Budokai 3. And

00:20:05.210 –> 00:20:07.589
Budokai 3 was good back in the day. And then

00:20:07.589 –> 00:20:12.400
all the Tenkaichis have been… Now, if you want

00:20:12.400 –> 00:20:16.720
to check out something really good, go on YouTube.

00:20:16.940 –> 00:20:19.420
There’s a YouTuber known as ProJared. He’s former

00:20:19.420 –> 00:20:23.319
ScrewAttack. He does a lot of things now with

00:20:23.319 –> 00:20:25.700
Dungeons and Dragons, I think. He’s a really

00:20:25.700 –> 00:20:28.099
good YouTuber. And he did a series when he was

00:20:28.099 –> 00:20:30.240
working for ScrewAttack where he goes through

00:20:30.240 –> 00:20:34.680
every Dragon Ball Z game up until, I want to

00:20:34.680 –> 00:20:39.559
say, Ultimate Tenkaichi. and it’s really, really

00:20:39.559 –> 00:20:41.380
well in -depth. They talk about the car games,

00:20:41.500 –> 00:20:43.839
they talk about the role -playing games. There

00:20:43.839 –> 00:20:46.559
was a couple for the DS, actually. There was

00:20:46.559 –> 00:20:50.079
one for the Nintendo Wii. There was Dragon Ball

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Sagas, which was a role -playing game for the

00:20:52.000 –> 00:20:54.839
PS2 and the Xbox. And he goes through each title.

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He goes through even the Super Nintendo ones.

00:20:57.180 –> 00:20:58.839
There was actually a Dragon Ball Z Tournament

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Fighter, which actually played, I think, at Evo

00:21:02.279 –> 00:21:06.440
for, like, a year or two. So that’s how legit

00:21:06.440 –> 00:21:10.339
Dragon Ball Z got for a while. So if your listeners

00:21:10.339 –> 00:21:12.000
are really curious, I highly recommend you go

00:21:12.000 –> 00:21:13.539
check out his series on YouTube. I think it’s

00:21:13.539 –> 00:21:15.920
five videos long, and I don’t think they’re any

00:21:15.920 –> 00:21:25.319
less than half an hour each. Huh. Yeah, I’ll

00:21:25.319 –> 00:21:26.940
probably end up checking them out in my free

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time. And I… I gotta check out Xenoverse since

00:21:35.640 –> 00:21:39.920
I actually own it now. Because I haven’t played

00:21:39.920 –> 00:21:42.440
any of that game yet. I think I created a character

00:21:42.440 –> 00:21:48.940
and I think it’s about as far as I went. My experience

00:21:48.940 –> 00:21:51.359
with Dragon Ball Z has been between the television

00:21:51.359 –> 00:21:53.220
show and I think for a little bit there I did

00:21:53.220 –> 00:21:58.220
collect the comics. Which I think was through

00:21:58.220 –> 00:22:00.900
the Namek saga when I was collecting. I don’t

00:22:00.900 –> 00:22:03.420
think I had very much, but I had enough to go

00:22:03.420 –> 00:22:07.440
through some of the first fights with Frieza,

00:22:07.480 –> 00:22:08.640
and then I stopped collecting, unfortunately,

00:22:08.960 –> 00:22:15.500
due to money issues. I remember the company that

00:22:15.500 –> 00:22:19.079
produces the manga, Viz, they sent me this huge

00:22:19.079 –> 00:22:23.279
omnibus, and it went through Raditz all the way

00:22:23.279 –> 00:22:28.880
to the end of Vegeta. This thing was like a small

00:22:28.880 –> 00:22:33.160
city’s phone book. I couldn’t believe how long

00:22:33.160 –> 00:22:37.579
the manga was. I never did get around to reading

00:22:37.579 –> 00:22:39.400
all of it. I think I got halfway through it.

00:22:39.440 –> 00:22:42.539
I was like, man, okay, I might tap it out. Can’t

00:22:42.539 –> 00:22:46.160
do it anymore. And then, well, obviously we saw

00:22:46.160 –> 00:22:49.039
how long the series was on TV. That’s why I was

00:22:49.039 –> 00:22:51.599
really glad when they did Dragon Ball Z Kai and

00:22:51.599 –> 00:22:57.710
condensed the hell out of it. Yeah, I still have

00:22:57.710 –> 00:23:03.130
yet to watch the actual Kai setup of it. I’m

00:23:03.130 –> 00:23:07.150
one of the throwbacks to the original entire

00:23:07.150 –> 00:23:10.990
long, drawn -out saga. I actually like how it

00:23:10.990 –> 00:23:14.250
paces the first saga really, really, really well.

00:23:14.390 –> 00:23:18.170
It cuts out so much filler in the Frieza saga,

00:23:18.349 –> 00:23:23.089
too. It also takes out a good chunk of Cell as

00:23:23.089 –> 00:23:25.930
well. I haven’t kept up with it post -Cell, though.

00:23:27.169 –> 00:23:29.009
Just because I haven’t had a chance to contact

00:23:29.009 –> 00:23:30.569
the company to send it to me. But I know it’s

00:23:30.569 –> 00:23:36.349
been out for like a year or two now. But I remember

00:23:36.349 –> 00:23:38.890
Kai definitely being worth checking out, though.

00:23:43.269 –> 00:23:45.750
Now, have you had a chance to check out Dragon

00:23:45.750 –> 00:23:51.869
Ball Super yet? I’m… I’ve heard that the animation

00:23:51.869 –> 00:23:55.000
is batshit terrible. Some episodes will look

00:23:55.000 –> 00:23:57.920
great, some will look like shit. And I’m not

00:23:57.920 –> 00:24:03.599
precisely sure why that is. The movies… See,

00:24:03.619 –> 00:24:05.359
that’s really unfortunate because that’s the

00:24:05.359 –> 00:24:12.759
first series post Resurrection of… Which I’m

00:24:12.759 –> 00:24:16.180
glad they actually released those theatrically.

00:24:16.579 –> 00:24:19.400
I was really surprised when they did that, when

00:24:19.400 –> 00:24:22.390
they did… battle of gods and then did this

00:24:22.390 –> 00:24:26.009
one although i do think it’s kind of cheating

00:24:26.009 –> 00:24:31.210
where they just oh now your hair is blue is that

00:24:31.210 –> 00:24:37.490
all you got um but yeah super super saiyan god

00:24:37.490 –> 00:24:39.549
super saiyan ridiculous and then it turns out

00:24:39.549 –> 00:24:43.150
god’s not as powerful as regular it’s see that’s

00:24:43.150 –> 00:24:46.450
one thing akira toriyama basically said He’s

00:24:46.450 –> 00:24:48.890
like, don’t ever pay attention to power levels

00:24:48.890 –> 00:24:52.250
or anything. And it just got so confusing because

00:24:52.250 –> 00:24:54.829
even during the original saga, they’re like Super

00:24:54.829 –> 00:24:57.670
Saiyan 1 is stronger than Super Saiyan 2, but

00:24:57.670 –> 00:25:00.069
3 is the most powerful, but not as fast as 1,

00:25:00.210 –> 00:25:04.190
and thus not as powerful. I’m like, what? If

00:25:04.190 –> 00:25:06.569
I want to kick his ass, what do I got to do?

00:25:06.769 –> 00:25:10.849
Sort of thing. And I always hated that. Sometimes

00:25:10.849 –> 00:25:16.210
Dragon Ball, for as simple as it should be, They

00:25:16.210 –> 00:25:17.829
overcomplicated the crap out of it sometimes.

00:25:20.789 –> 00:25:26.809
Uh -huh. Yeah, I… It was one thing that I kind

00:25:26.809 –> 00:25:30.490
of thought was stupid with since that movie came

00:25:30.490 –> 00:25:33.130
out was they were like, oh, it’s Super Saiyan

00:25:33.130 –> 00:25:36.410
God, Super Saiyan. And then everybody can do

00:25:36.410 –> 00:25:43.119
it now. Yeah, I just… mind -boggling to me,

00:25:43.200 –> 00:25:47.099
but I did enjoy that film, despite the fact that

00:25:47.099 –> 00:25:50.940
it had kind of a really phony cop -out way of…

00:25:50.940 –> 00:25:56.680
Hey, Whis! I was… Yeah, they’re like, Whis,

00:25:56.839 –> 00:26:04.180
fix it! It’s just… I don’t know. I wanted to

00:26:04.180 –> 00:26:05.960
choke somebody at the end of that film, but…

00:26:08.919 –> 00:26:11.880
Yeah, it was great. I mean, I really enjoyed

00:26:11.880 –> 00:26:14.539
it, but then it had that, and I was like, eh.

00:26:15.779 –> 00:26:18.900
They pulled a Dragon Ball Z Eternal Dragon move

00:26:18.900 –> 00:26:22.960
without using the dragon. Because they used it

00:26:22.960 –> 00:26:28.119
at the beginning. So yeah, I mean, it was pretty

00:26:28.119 –> 00:26:35.519
good, though. With the duration of this podcast,

00:26:35.720 –> 00:26:37.599
obviously going to cover the sagas, but I thought

00:26:37.599 –> 00:26:43.359
we’d cover each film as well. That’s the plan.

00:26:44.579 –> 00:26:46.559
Things may not turn out that way, but that’s

00:26:46.559 –> 00:26:52.019
the plan. And just because I’d like to actually

00:26:52.019 –> 00:26:53.960
sit down and converse about some of the films

00:26:53.960 –> 00:26:57.299
as well because I acquired them all over the

00:26:57.299 –> 00:26:59.519
last year and I’ve watched all of them numerous

00:26:59.519 –> 00:27:05.450
times. And besides the fact that the animation

00:27:05.450 –> 00:27:07.650
is inconsistent with the film. I love the dubbed

00:27:07.650 –> 00:27:10.750
soundtracks. Randomly they have like Finger Eleven

00:27:10.750 –> 00:27:14.829
and Disturbed in some of them. And it makes no

00:27:14.829 –> 00:27:18.390
sense. Although as a child that very much did

00:27:18.390 –> 00:27:20.569
influence some of my musical taste as a kid.

00:27:21.789 –> 00:27:27.170
One of my favorite musical bits of Dragon Ball

00:27:27.170 –> 00:27:29.630
Z was the starting that they had while it was

00:27:29.630 –> 00:27:33.339
on Toonami. That’s the best one. I don’t like

00:27:33.339 –> 00:27:36.700
the theme song at all, but Rock the Dragon, that’s

00:27:36.700 –> 00:27:41.460
awesome. Bring that shit back. I mean, that instantly,

00:27:41.680 –> 00:27:44.880
like, I can associate with it, and it’s so catchy.

00:27:45.200 –> 00:27:46.960
You know what’s weird, though? They actually

00:27:46.960 –> 00:27:49.079
released a special edition box set a couple years

00:27:49.079 –> 00:27:52.720
ago where they purposely restored just that.

00:27:54.279 –> 00:27:56.839
The intro is different. Every other thing was

00:27:56.839 –> 00:28:01.829
the same, except that. I’m like, wow, that’s

00:28:01.829 –> 00:28:04.029
kind of a cash grab. That’s a smart cash grab,

00:28:04.130 –> 00:28:07.170
but it’s a cash grab. I want to say it was also,

00:28:07.390 –> 00:28:09.769
yeah, it may have been the original Ocean dub

00:28:09.769 –> 00:28:12.410
too, yeah, up until things changed, and it was

00:28:12.410 –> 00:28:16.630
Rock the Dragon as the theme song. I always thought

00:28:16.630 –> 00:28:19.430
that was the superior theme song then, as opposed

00:28:19.430 –> 00:28:25.990
to the random Japanese guy singing. Yeah, Dragon,

00:28:26.089 –> 00:28:29.579
Dragon. It sounds… Like it’s saying something

00:28:29.579 –> 00:28:33.059
bad when you play it on QuickTime in slow motion.

00:28:33.140 –> 00:28:38.799
But it’s so badass. I know. It’s such a great,

00:28:38.799 –> 00:28:45.500
great theme. So being that this is just a overview

00:28:45.500 –> 00:28:47.839
of all of our memories and thoughts and everything,

00:28:47.960 –> 00:28:49.440
is there anything that you’d like to bring up

00:28:49.440 –> 00:28:52.920
that we may have missed in our gushing of the

00:28:52.920 –> 00:28:56.599
series? I will bring out my Dragon Ball Z role

00:28:56.599 –> 00:28:59.480
-playing books because one of them, is incredibly

00:28:59.480 –> 00:29:03.460
rare and i picked it up for five bucks on ebay

00:29:03.460 –> 00:29:06.279
on amazon i’ve seen it going for four or five

00:29:06.279 –> 00:29:10.299
hundred dollars and one of the authors of dragon

00:29:10.299 –> 00:29:14.099
ball oh wow rpg actually wrote an unofficial

00:29:14.099 –> 00:29:18.339
book he had the manuscript done but he couldn’t

00:29:18.339 –> 00:29:20.500
publish it because the company had lost the rights

00:29:20.500 –> 00:29:24.910
to it so he published the um end of the cell

00:29:24.910 –> 00:29:30.529
saga and the beginning of majin buu saga in a

00:29:30.529 –> 00:29:33.849
book he called magical wishing dreaming spheres

00:29:33.849 –> 00:29:36.769
and it was the rules that would be compatible

00:29:36.769 –> 00:29:39.910
with the dragon ball z rpg i think i still have

00:29:39.910 –> 00:29:44.309
it but i was so happy that someone actually completed

00:29:44.309 –> 00:29:47.900
the series quote unquote in this but uh Yeah,

00:29:47.920 –> 00:29:50.000
to talk about character creation, some of the

00:29:50.000 –> 00:29:53.759
unique things the book would give you, I think

00:29:53.759 –> 00:29:55.579
it’d just be a fun trip down memory lane about

00:29:55.579 –> 00:29:58.880
a piece of memorabilia almost nobody talks about.

00:30:02.779 –> 00:30:06.599
Yeah, that’d be interesting. And then, like I

00:30:06.599 –> 00:30:10.599
said, I had this old Pojo magazine with some

00:30:10.599 –> 00:30:17.299
of their bios in there. Even though it references

00:30:17.299 –> 00:30:23.759
some sites that aren’t around anymore. Like Planet

00:30:23.759 –> 00:30:29.619
Namek and some of those type sites. So yeah,

00:30:29.660 –> 00:30:31.500
I’ll probably reference some of the characters

00:30:31.500 –> 00:30:34.220
in there at some point since it’s got the entire

00:30:34.220 –> 00:30:38.799
bios. It’s even got this interesting thing that

00:30:38.799 –> 00:30:45.089
it’s their English to Japanese names. and their

00:30:45.089 –> 00:30:47.349
dub names, and their alternate spellings. Yeah,

00:30:47.549 –> 00:30:50.109
I think I’ll be really kind of looking forward

00:30:50.109 –> 00:30:51.410
to actually kind of hearing about this more.

00:30:54.390 –> 00:30:57.930
Because, like, for instance, Vegeta, like the

00:30:57.930 –> 00:31:03.130
Japanese name is Vegeta. And the English dub

00:31:03.130 –> 00:31:07.329
translated name is Vegeta, like vegetable. Vegetable.

00:31:07.470 –> 00:31:10.450
And then the alternate spellings is actually

00:31:10.450 –> 00:31:13.900
the same as the Vegeta. except they replaced

00:31:13.900 –> 00:31:17.539
the B with the V. And then there’s three different

00:31:17.539 –> 00:31:20.480
spellings for the Vegeta, like V -E -G -E -T

00:31:20.480 –> 00:31:25.099
-A or V -E -J -I -T -A or V -E -G -I -T -A. So

00:31:25.099 –> 00:31:29.619
it’s like, there’s a lot of, like Kame, Senen

00:31:29.619 –> 00:31:32.059
is Master Roshi, obviously, or Mutant Roshi,

00:31:32.160 –> 00:31:34.079
which those are, you know, everybody knows that.

00:31:34.079 –> 00:31:36.940
Oh my God, Steve, you know what we have to do.

00:31:37.869 –> 00:31:39.970
We have to do commentary for the Dragon Ball

00:31:39.970 –> 00:31:44.970
Z, or sorry, Dragon Ball Evolution. I have a

00:31:44.970 –> 00:31:51.930
theatrical one -sheet poster for that. Is that

00:31:51.930 –> 00:31:55.349
the Dragon Ball movie? And James Marsden and

00:31:55.349 –> 00:32:00.650
Ernie Hudson randomly. Oh, you’re talking about

00:32:00.650 –> 00:32:03.390
the live action movie. Oh, you will. I’ve never

00:32:03.390 –> 00:32:06.690
watched that. I have it, but I’ve never watched

00:32:06.690 –> 00:32:09.700
it. We are going to Mystery Science Theater the

00:32:09.700 –> 00:32:15.339
shit out of that. Yeah, it’s… I would be interested

00:32:15.339 –> 00:32:18.000
in doing that, actually. Man, I’m almost tempted

00:32:18.000 –> 00:32:20.559
to drive down to Michigan so we can literally

00:32:20.559 –> 00:32:25.660
Mystery Science Theater 3000 this shit. My God.

00:32:26.339 –> 00:32:30.859
Yeah, it’s so, so bad. But it’s so entertaining

00:32:30.859 –> 00:32:39.029
at the same time. That’s funny. I think it would

00:32:39.029 –> 00:32:43.990
be really funny to actually go over that film.

00:32:44.529 –> 00:32:48.349
I have an intimate knowledge of the making of.

00:32:49.190 –> 00:32:53.210
I had to, in a not very proud moment of my career,

00:32:53.349 –> 00:32:56.990
had to ask for a lot of press material related

00:32:56.990 –> 00:32:59.950
to that movie. Like I said, I still have my theatrical

00:32:59.950 –> 00:33:05.339
one -sheet poster around here somewhere. Were

00:33:05.339 –> 00:33:07.160
you disappointed that you asked for so much on

00:33:07.160 –> 00:33:11.119
it? This is going to be my Zardot. This is going

00:33:11.119 –> 00:33:14.799
to be my Highlander 2, The Quickening. This is

00:33:14.799 –> 00:33:18.339
my beautiful disaster. It just happens to star

00:33:18.339 –> 00:33:26.180
Goku. Ish. Goku Light. Goku Ish. Goku Light.

00:33:27.119 –> 00:33:31.140
Who’s randomly a white kid now. And yet Yamcha

00:33:31.140 –> 00:33:33.839
is the only Japanese guy outside of Chao Yan

00:33:33.839 –> 00:33:36.740
Fat in the entire freaking movie. And Piccolo

00:33:36.740 –> 00:33:42.299
does nothing. Which is kind of messed up. The

00:33:42.299 –> 00:33:46.859
Ozaru as something. It gets so stupid. I remember

00:33:46.859 –> 00:33:48.940
there was a time when people wanted Jason David

00:33:48.940 –> 00:33:53.769
Frank to star as Vegeta. in if there was a sequel

00:33:53.769 –> 00:33:56.430
like there was a really weird fan campaign around

00:33:56.430 –> 00:33:59.789
it and i think he responded to it on like several

00:33:59.789 –> 00:34:08.309
occasions but we’ll get to that that just makes

00:34:08.309 –> 00:34:15.869
me laugh oh man so with that uh anything else

00:34:15.869 –> 00:34:18.449
you want to bring up look forward to us talking

00:34:18.449 –> 00:34:20.289
about this it’d be nice to get back into some

00:34:20.800 –> 00:34:23.639
anime type stuff and maybe talk about series

00:34:23.639 –> 00:34:26.280
that are similar to dragon ball at some point

00:34:26.280 –> 00:34:29.420
in terms of violence or content or even stuff

00:34:29.420 –> 00:34:32.119
that’s kind of dragged out and you know more

00:34:32.119 –> 00:34:34.480
than i would introduce you to some rather new

00:34:34.480 –> 00:34:37.239
stuff and hopefully you’ll take a liking to some

00:34:37.239 –> 00:34:40.139
of it so we’ll wait and see this is my goal for

00:34:40.139 –> 00:34:43.039
this podcast is to show steve some new and exciting

00:34:43.039 –> 00:34:50.920
things i have seen some anime My knowledge of

00:34:50.920 –> 00:34:54.139
anime is like anime light. I know like… I’ve

00:34:54.139 –> 00:34:58.800
seen a little bit of… You know, like obviously…

00:34:58.800 –> 00:35:03.300
I’ve seen Sailor Moon. I’ve seen like a little

00:35:03.300 –> 00:35:08.760
bit of Outlaw Star. I’ve seen Cowboy Bebop. Basically

00:35:08.760 –> 00:35:11.099
anything that had shown up on Toonami at one

00:35:11.099 –> 00:35:13.079
point I’ve seen. My main knowledge ends with

00:35:13.079 –> 00:35:17.659
Death Note back in 2008. But with series like…

00:35:17.769 –> 00:35:22.090
Attack on Titan, Kill la Kill, Space Dandy. I’m

00:35:22.090 –> 00:35:24.170
looking to get back into anime in a very large

00:35:24.170 –> 00:35:28.590
way. So hopefully I’ll be able to change some

00:35:28.590 –> 00:35:32.590
hearts and minds with this because it’s an art

00:35:32.590 –> 00:35:36.309
form and a genre that I really used to love as

00:35:36.309 –> 00:35:40.110
a kid. And maybe it’s time now that I’m that

00:35:40.110 –> 00:35:42.250
older adult, I can get back into it and see it

00:35:42.250 –> 00:35:45.309
with a fresh set of eyes. I mean, right now I’m

00:35:45.309 –> 00:35:48.239
just going through Avatar. the last Airbender

00:35:48.239 –> 00:35:49.960
series, and hopefully going to move on to Legend

00:35:49.960 –> 00:35:52.440
of Korra. And I’m looking forward to going through

00:35:52.440 –> 00:35:56.380
that again. So hopefully, like I said, I will

00:35:56.380 –> 00:35:58.559
be able to show you some crazy stuff like Fist

00:35:58.559 –> 00:36:02.099
of the North Star, which is ridiculous yet amazing,

00:36:02.139 –> 00:36:05.619
and really cool series like Attack on Titan.

00:36:05.840 –> 00:36:09.860
So stay tuned, guys. Lots of fun stuff, but mostly

00:36:09.860 –> 00:36:11.840
Dragon Ball and people screaming about power

00:36:11.840 –> 00:36:18.420
levels for the next X many episodes. Yep. Power

00:36:18.420 –> 00:36:25.280
level 9 ,000. Yeah, it’s just priceless. So,

00:36:25.340 –> 00:36:29.260
yeah. Thank you for listening to the Cyber Dragon

00:36:29.260 –> 00:36:34.280
Ball and catch us next week as we… Soon! Maybe

00:36:34.280 –> 00:36:37.760
not next week, but catch us soon. Yes, for the

00:36:37.760 –> 00:36:40.340
next episode. Please find all my Cyber Dragon

00:36:40.340 –> 00:37:13.440
Balls. Please. She’s like, shut up. But I have

00:37:13.440 –> 00:37:15.739
not ordered pizza as Goku, because if I did,

00:37:15.739 –> 00:37:17.280
it’d probably be something like, yeah, I’d like

00:37:17.280 –> 00:37:19.940
all the pizzas. Just send me all of them. How

00:37:19.940 –> 00:37:21.619
many do you have left? A couple hundred? Yeah,

00:37:21.639 –> 00:37:24.360
put everything on it, send all of it, and just,

00:37:24.400 –> 00:37:26.219
you know, that’d be awesome. Okay, thanks!