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Episode 06.16.2026

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In Episode 585 of The Pull Bag join TFG1Mike and we have the return of Jesse Earley as they go back to IDW Publishing to read through and discuss the M.A.S.K. – Mobile Armored Strike Kommand – Riding V.E.N.O.M.’s Trail! They talk about the story, the art, the whole M.A.S.K. concept, the 80’s cartoon, and the future of M.A.S.K. with Skybound Entertainment and the Energon Universe. However the focus is definitely on this 12 issue collected edition of the IDW Comics series! As always Make Your Great Escape Into Comics!!!
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Hi, this is Christy Marks, the writer of Gem
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and the Holograms and Beast Wars, and you’re
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listening to Geekcast Radio Network. Hey, it’s
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Jesse Rass here, and you’ve made the great escape
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into comics by jumping inside the pull bag today.
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Illusion is the ultimate weapon. You’ve just
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jumped inside the pull bag. This is episode 585.
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We’ve got just a few more episodes until the
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landmark 600th episode of this podcast, folks.
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I am, of course, TF2 and Mike, and I’m coming
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to you live, kind of, sort of, not really, since
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this is always recorded, but this is episode
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585, and I am pulling a switcheroo. This is going
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to be the IDW Publishing Mask episode that Jesse
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Early, a .k .a. Matrix Prime, from another comic
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review. That’s his podcast. We recorded this
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as episode 586. Originally, this was going to
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be Skybound Entertainment Transformers Volume
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2 Transport to Oblivion. But Steve Megatron and
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I haven’t been able to record that just yet.
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So instead of waiting and instead of waiting
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for episode 586 and getting the mask episode.
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Because as of this recording, Skybound Entertainment
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has released mask number one. You are going to
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be getting on that release day, even though it’ll
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be backdated and yada, yada, yada, yada, yada.
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This will be episode 585, and this is going to
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be our coverage of the IDW publishing story for
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mask mobile armored strike command. This is the
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full trade. This is my conversation with Jesse
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Early where we review the IDW publishing story
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for Mask written by Brandon Easton. So please
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enjoy. Originally this was going to be episode
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586. It is now 585. Mask is 31 years old at this
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point. The cartoon debuted in 1985. It only had
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75 episodes. If you want to go back in the cartoon
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vaults here on the Geekcast Radio Network, you
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can check out a podcast called Masked Mayhem
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with my buddy Optimus Solo, where we discussed
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all 75 episodes of Mask, actually. I think Optimus
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Solo tapped out after the first season, and my
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other buddy, Tim Silvers, helped me finish out
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the racing season, which is those last ten episodes.
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But anyway, folks, please enjoy the Pull Bags
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episode 585, Mask, from IDW Publishing. And now,
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on with the show! Are you ready for more? Let’s
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go! Alright, you good to go? As good as I’m going
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to be. It’ll be painless, I promise. It’ll be
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painless. Hey, look, I’m doing all the work this
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time. You have just jumped inside the pull bag.
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I am TF2 and Mike, and today’s featured guest
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is none other than Jesse from another comic review.
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Hey, it’s been a while since we had Jesse on
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the show, folks. You said 2023? 2024, technically,
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you had your podcast approach over on Studio
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2009. Just a couple years. Yeah, a couple years.
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We’re fast approaching your three -year anniversary
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of your own podcast, June 16th of this year.
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You think you got this comics thing down? I don’t
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know if I got it down, but I’ve certainly been
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reading far more comics than what I imagined
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that was going to be. And it’s not just the Energon
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Universe stuff, which is what we’ve been covering,
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but I’ve been reading other stuff as well. So
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that’s kind of actually surprised me quite a
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bit. Well, that’s good. That just means in a
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couple of years or so, you can jump back inside
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the pull bag with me and go through the 30 questions
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all about reading comics. So same premise as
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the podcast approach. just 30 questions about
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comics. But today, folks, leading up to the stuff
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with the Energon universe that’s currently going
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on, we’re going to head back to the IDW publishing
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vault and make sure our spectrums are ready because
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illusion is the ultimate weapon. That’s right.
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Even though Skybound already released their free
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comic book day issue for 2026, which gave us
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our first taste of their version of Mobile Armored
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Strike Command, their full launch is June 3rd.
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I thought it would be awesome that we unleashed
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some of our own mass mayhem. Right here on the
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Geekcast Radio Network and discuss the IDW series
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ahead of the Skybound launch. Oh, yeah. Also,
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this episode will be a double bill on the pull
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bag and the old school mask cartoon review show
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that Optimus Solo and I did way back in the day
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in 2011. I can’t believe it was 2011 that we
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did Masked Mayhem. For those that may not remember,
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and for those that do remember, Masked Mayhem
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was us reviewing all 75 episodes of Mask from
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1985. And honestly, really, you only need to
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watch the first season. It’s 65 episodes, because
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65 was syndication in the olden days. Those last
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10 episodes was deemed, the second season of
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the show was deemed the racing season. It’s not
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that good. Heck, Optimus Solo tapped out. I had
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to bring in a ringer. I had to bring in my buddy,
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Tune Master Tim, to finish out the show with
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me. But this comic from IDW, wowzers. Oh, boy.
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But first, the creative team for this. This whole
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series was written by Brandon Easton. You’ve
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probably heard his name before. I don’t have
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all of his credits in front of me. I actually
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just have the title, the creative page from the
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trade paperback in front of me. But he has written
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multiple other things. I believe he’s written
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some Transformers stuff. I’ll talk more about
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him later. In this trade for revolution, the
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art was done by Tony Vargas. The colors were
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done by Jordi Esquen. I’m sorry, Jordi, if I
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butchered your name. Letters were done by Chris
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Mowry. Tony Vargas basically did most of the
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art. Issue three was Juan Samu. Colors in the
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entire thing were done by Jordi. That’s awesome.
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Drew Moss did the art on issue 10, 6, 7, 8, 9,
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and 10. Mask. I had never read this. In the IDW
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publishing landscape, when it comes to the Hasbro
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stuff, I stuck with Transformers, and that’s
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all I had read. read gi joe when it crossed over
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with transformers i’ve read several gi joe trades
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and we’ve covered several of the gi joe trades
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on the podcast but i don’t know i just never
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got around to doing this until the next company
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that got the license was like hey guess what
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we’re gonna do this and i’m like oh crap well
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let’s go back in time uh so there are 12 issues
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in this trade. You got the one through 10 for
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the main series. We got the revolution one shot
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and the annual, uh, from 2017. Now I normally
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don’t do this. I am, I like it when it’s being
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used as a tool to accomplish a goal, but I loathe
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AI in general as a general thing. And you people
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are going to hear this way later, but today kind
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of proves my point. Somebody on the internet
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decided to put out a 44th anniversary Knight
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Rider Hot Wheels image. There is no 44th anniversary
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Knight Rider Hot Wheels thing. It’s not happening.
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There is no car coming out from Hot Wheels. celebrating
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the 44th anniversary of Knight Rider, they would
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never do that. They would just never do that.
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So that’s what I don’t like about artificial
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intelligence, is when people use it for misinformation.
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Now, if you’re going to use it as a tool and
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to do good things with it, fine, great. For the
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preparation of this record, because we weren’t
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sure if we were going to sit here for what we
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normally sit here for. My buddy Joe and I will
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sit here through this trade or any trade. Our
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Turtles coverage is two and a half to three hours
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long. And I know I can hear in my headphones
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Jesse rolling his eyes. Yes, his eye rolls are
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audible, folks. Trust me, I can hear it. I was
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actually laughing. Okay, well, same difference.
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You know, he’ll ask me, who listens to two and
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a half hour, three hour podcasts besides you?
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There is an art form to long form podcasting.
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And it just depends because for me personally,
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even if I wasn’t just a hermit homebody who hates
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leaving his house and doesn’t like interacting
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with people out in the room, I love going outside.
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I love going out and sitting on my little patio
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out here, or I love taking a walk or actually
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being out in nature. It’s just too people -y
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outside. I don’t like being around crowds. I
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don’t like being around people in general. Specific
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people, more than fine. Absolutely. But if you
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get me in a crowd, more than five people. including
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myself, I’m done. I it’s too much stimulation
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for me. So that’s why I don’t like that kind
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of stuff. But the long form podcast for me, it’s
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like, Oh, it’s a three hour tour. It’s a three
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hour podcast. I can listen to the foot like I
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can listen to the first hour now and I can take
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a break and come back to it later. Or I can find
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a good stopping point. Or if they have ad breaks.
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Or if they have whatever. It is what it is. But
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we are going to try to condense this as best
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we can. And in that vein, I did something that
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I never would normally do on any of my podcasts
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that I produce. Hell has frozen over. Yes, because
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I prefer… actual intelligence to artificial
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intelligence, but here we are. And even though
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this note says, I wanted to see what this would
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say or would come up with for this. And I said,
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I was not going to read this, but I am actually
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going to read this. The Google AI summary for
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this trade. It breaks down each section of the
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thing. So for the Revolution One -Shot summary
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origin and setup, Miles Mayhem runs Project Spectrum,
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a government -funded trading program using OR
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-13 technology derived from Cybertronian Transformers
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to create advanced masks, vehicles, the Tern
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Mayhem, a war -hardened soldier, yadda yadda
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yadda yadda yadda. Venom’s Creation, Mayhem Secretly
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Handpicks Trainees, Vanessa Warfield, Sly Rax,
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and Bruno Shepard. And then it breaks down Masks
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1 through 10, Issues 1 through 10, and the 2016
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-2017 run. And it breaks all of this down. Now,
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I’m clearly glossing over this, and one of your
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biggest fears in even doing this with me is…
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It’s going to spoil my entire Transformers run
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because it crosses over with Transformers and
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G .I. Joe. Where this is in that, I think there’s,
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I said this to you off air, I’ll say it to you
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on air. There’s enough here where there’s, like,
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you don’t, because there’s, it’s just the mask
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revolution one shot. i think you’ll be okay it’s
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not it’s so far flung in the past at this point
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and you haven’t gotten to that future yes go
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ahead so i’ve i did read the entire thing right
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last time i had not read the entire thing right
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between yesterday and today i was able to finish
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reading i was like halfway through i think when
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we talked last uh but yeah i was able to finish
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it so my Maybe when I was talking to you, I explained
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it wrong. I wasn’t worried about being spoiled
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with the IDW Transformers stuff. Because I think
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that stuff, where there’s robots in disguise
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and more than just the eye, that doesn’t play
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into this at all. I think what I had previously
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read… assuming this takes place around the
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same time, was an IDW series, and then I just
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quit reading it after a while. My concern was,
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and I didn’t really enjoy that, so that must
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have been, I think, the one that ties into this,
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maybe. My concern wasn’t being spoiled by the
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IDW stuff. My concern, again, I think I probably
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used the wrong terminology here. My concern was
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kind of being, because all of this is going to
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be within the shared universe, within the Energon
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universe. No! No, no, no. I know this isn’t.
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I’m saying all of the properties within the Energon
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universe, right? They’re all going to come together.
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And Mask is obviously going to play a part into
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that. My concern was that it’s going to give
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me these preconceived notions of what we’re going
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to see going into the Energon universe version
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of Mask. I got you. I got you. Okay, I get it.
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I get it. I didn’t want it to ruin that experience
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for me. No, I don’t think that’s good. No, see
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that. See, for me, like that never affects me
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because I understand that this is this writer,
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this creator’s version of it. And this is his,
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this is Brandon’s stamp on it. This is his story.
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Whatever Mr. Waters is going to create is going
00:16:14.840 –> 00:16:22.240
to be. his and skybound’s story with it and i
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don’t think they’re going to take too much from
00:16:27.480 –> 00:16:31.100
this i think they’re hoping that but i know i
00:16:31.100 –> 00:16:33.379
don’t know i don’t personally like with the crow
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for example like i’ve never read the comic but
00:16:36.639 –> 00:16:40.519
i love the first crow movie and it’s like like
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that’s that to me is like perfection in terms
00:16:42.740 –> 00:16:45.149
of that story Again, I have not read the comics,
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so maybe the comic is better. I don’t know, but
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I’ve only watched the movie. Right. And then
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I take that and I compare it with any other crow
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thing that comes out. Right. Including the new
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one that happened a couple of years ago. It’s
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like I’m taking that first thing because I enjoyed
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it so much and I compare everything else to it.
00:17:02.389 –> 00:17:04.289
Like that’s what I kind of didn’t want to do
00:17:04.289 –> 00:17:06.750
going into the Energon universe version of the
00:17:06.750 –> 00:17:09.109
mask where it’s like, if I enjoyed this. Yeah.
00:17:09.150 –> 00:17:11.980
Well, now I’m only going to be let down. by what
00:17:11.980 –> 00:17:13.759
I’m going to see in the Energon universe, or
00:17:13.759 –> 00:17:16.740
maybe it’ll be far superior to what I read here.
00:17:16.880 –> 00:17:18.880
Like that was my, my biggest concern. So now
00:17:18.880 –> 00:17:21.500
it’s like, am I going in sullied now? I don’t
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know because I, I don’t think so. Okay. I don’t
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think you are. I had highs and lows as this progressed.
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At first I didn’t like, so where I was coming
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from with this, Because I started reading it
00:17:41.049 –> 00:17:44.009
before free. I was late to free comic book day,
00:17:44.130 –> 00:17:47.009
which is why you find people don’t hear me on
00:17:47.009 –> 00:17:49.569
the free comic book day episode of another comic
00:17:49.569 –> 00:17:53.289
review. I was very late to that, unfortunately.
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But so where I come from with this is like, oh.
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I’m thinking animated series. I’m thinking 1985.
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I’m thinking I am not thinking Scott and T -Bob.
00:18:08.339 –> 00:18:12.440
Thank God. That stupid scooter and that damn
00:18:12.440 –> 00:18:17.299
kid are not in this. Thank God. Matt’s kid and
00:18:17.299 –> 00:18:21.579
his damn scooter are not in this. And I’ll show
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you. I’m sure you’ve seen videos of that. If
00:18:24.079 –> 00:18:27.470
you haven’t, I’ll show you later. It’s one of
00:18:27.470 –> 00:18:30.309
those things where I come from growing up with
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the cartoon. And because it’s an 80s cartoon,
00:18:33.529 –> 00:18:37.250
what do all 80s cartoons have? They have to have
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the sidekick. And every side, Transformers had
00:18:42.089 –> 00:18:48.549
Spike to a general, I guess, team -up thing.
00:18:48.690 –> 00:18:53.250
Bumblebee was Spike’s, or technically Spike was
00:18:53.250 –> 00:18:56.940
Bumblebee’s sidekick. You know, you have to have
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a sidekick. Thundercats had Snarf and other cartoons
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had whatever. Well, in Mask, Scott, who is Matt’s
00:19:04.960 –> 00:19:09.539
son, is the sidekick. And then Scott has his
00:19:09.539 –> 00:19:15.720
little scooter, T -Bob. And the most annoying
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thing about that show, even though we can curse
00:19:22.500 –> 00:19:27.410
on here, I just… decided to do that uh i just
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so that’s where i was coming from walking into
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any any anytime anyone says mask to me even though
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i love you know the the vehicle transformations
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i love the team assembly i love all that i love
00:19:42.849 –> 00:19:44.809
the music of the car or the original cartoon
00:19:44.809 –> 00:19:48.289
series so that’s where i was coming from and
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thank god scott ain’t here t -bob ain’t here
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But where also I was coming from is I was one
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of the only kids I knew. I had every single toy.
00:20:01.690 –> 00:20:05.069
I had the Boulder Hill play set. I had all the
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cars. I had Rhino. My Rhino didn’t explode. Spoilers,
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even though this book was published way back
00:20:14.650 –> 00:20:20.289
years and years ago at this point. So Rhino…
00:20:21.099 –> 00:20:25.799
I would say Rhino was my favorite. Not because
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it’s just kind of like a Optimus Prime knockoff,
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even though it isn’t. But that was my favorite.
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So as I was going through this, I was like, oh,
00:20:36.160 –> 00:20:41.400
wait, where’s Rhino? What’s going on? Why is
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the team different? And Julio Lopez? didn’t even
00:20:46.440 –> 00:20:48.980
remember Julio, like literally after we do the
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recording, not literally right after, but I’m
00:20:51.680 –> 00:20:53.579
going to have to go back and watch the first
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season of mask to remember Julio in the show.
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Because as I was reading this, I’m like, I don’t
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remember Julio at all. So yeah, that’s, that’s
00:21:04.400 –> 00:21:07.660
where I was coming from. And I knew how I operate.
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Like I was not going to let this, this, I view
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it as its own thing and whatever Dan. And Dan
00:21:15.900 –> 00:21:18.420
Waters, as the writer in the new series, and
00:21:18.420 –> 00:21:20.619
Pai Par as the artist, whatever they’re doing,
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whatever they’re doing and what they’ve told
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us so far, I’m so ready for that and just cannot
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wait. So whatever the Energon universe is doing
00:21:34.019 –> 00:21:40.759
right now, it’s doing it on all cylinders. But,
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yeah, getting into this, I don’t even know where
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we want to start. But, like, we already said,
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kind of, like, it’s your standard thing where
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Miles, you know, betrays Matt and ends up starting
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his own team. And it’s your standard. I don’t
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want to say standard, but it is. It’s the standard
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masks. Like, there cannot be any different way.
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That, apparently, that Venom and Mask and everything
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gets started. Like, apparently there just isn’t.
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That’s the formula. Go with the formula. It’s
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kind of like Cybertronians are from Cybertron.
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I can’t be from anywhere else. I guess, you know?
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Like, so, yeah. But no, as the, and I, I never
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got into the whole revolution and then first
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strike after that, I never got into the ID. Like
00:22:48.519 –> 00:22:51.660
when IDW started doing those crossovers, I was
00:22:51.660 –> 00:22:55.920
like, okay, I don’t even honestly remember reading
00:22:55.920 –> 00:23:00.019
any of the other revolution stuff. Yes. I can
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tell you my experience with mask. prior to this
00:23:03.440 –> 00:23:07.980
and my only experience with mask has been what
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we’ve seen inside of the energon universe so
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i was born in 81 so obviously a child through
00:23:14.900 –> 00:23:18.240
the 80s but i don’t recall i don’t recall anything
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about mask at all i did not read comics as a
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kid i mean not until the 90s i really only got
00:23:25.319 –> 00:23:27.799
into uh superman during the death of superman
00:23:27.799 –> 00:23:30.420
the death of rebirth of superman rather Death
00:23:30.420 –> 00:23:33.539
and Return of Superman. There we go. But yeah,
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I don’t remember any comics. I don’t remember
00:23:35.460 –> 00:23:39.460
the cartoon. It was just a cartoon as far as
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I remember. It was no comics in the 80s? No,
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no. I remember the toys insofar as I remember
00:23:47.119 –> 00:23:51.660
the ads for the toys. But I don’t recall ever
00:23:51.660 –> 00:23:54.539
seeing them in the store as a kid. like in the
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toy aisles like i just do not recall this at
00:23:57.220 –> 00:24:00.160
all which is odd because i was very much into
00:24:00.160 –> 00:24:02.619
transformers i was very much into knight rider
00:24:02.619 –> 00:24:04.700
it seems like this would be like right up my
00:24:04.700 –> 00:24:07.119
alley but i just did not get into it at all just
00:24:07.119 –> 00:24:11.819
passed me by completely oh man you’d love the
00:24:11.819 –> 00:24:15.420
toys so my only experience uh with mask like
00:24:15.420 –> 00:24:17.519
i said is what we’ve seen in the energon universe
00:24:17.519 –> 00:24:20.500
so far and then obviously reading the straight
00:24:20.500 –> 00:24:23.289
paperback here reading this yeah So what were
00:24:23.289 –> 00:24:26.630
your thoughts on this? Like, I really don’t want
00:24:26.630 –> 00:24:30.210
to have to say, I mean, I do a high level here.
00:24:30.269 –> 00:24:33.170
What are you looking for? Cause I can tell you
00:24:33.170 –> 00:24:38.950
high level. I hated it. Oh no. Absolutely hated
00:24:38.950 –> 00:24:42.150
it. And I think it’s unfair to say that. And
00:24:42.150 –> 00:24:44.759
I’m going to tell you why. okay go ahead the
00:24:44.759 –> 00:24:46.740
the trade that we have here right i’m looking
00:24:46.740 –> 00:24:48.700
at the i don’t know what page this is inside
00:24:48.700 –> 00:24:51.700
of the trade it’s uh page five i guess so 306
00:24:51.700 –> 00:24:54.319
according to the thing i’ve got here okay um
00:24:54.319 –> 00:24:57.140
it’s got uh it’s got everything listed out here
00:24:57.140 –> 00:25:01.039
right so there are uh 12 issues in here you you
00:25:01.039 –> 00:25:04.200
said revolution issue one two three four five
00:25:04.200 –> 00:25:08.880
annual 2017 then issues six through ten yep and
00:25:08.880 –> 00:25:14.529
uh as i was reading this It became clear, especially
00:25:14.529 –> 00:25:18.309
once we got to… There’s a point in the story,
00:25:18.470 –> 00:25:20.309
and I don’t remember which issue this is. This
00:25:20.309 –> 00:25:22.549
is about where I stopped the first time and said,
00:25:22.609 –> 00:25:23.910
I don’t know if I’m going to read the rest of
00:25:23.910 –> 00:25:27.069
this. So it’s probably issue five, issue six,
00:25:27.170 –> 00:25:28.529
or the annual. I don’t know. I don’t remember.
00:25:28.849 –> 00:25:31.650
But there’s effectively a spot in the story where
00:25:31.650 –> 00:25:36.589
we get to… The masked characters are now interacting
00:25:36.589 –> 00:25:39.690
with a couple of the G .I. Joe characters. Yep.
00:25:40.079 –> 00:25:42.339
right so there’s scarlet and i think there is
00:25:42.339 –> 00:25:47.859
an what’s the guy’s name is um oh i know who
00:25:47.859 –> 00:25:50.380
you’re what’s his name night uh night stalker
00:25:50.380 –> 00:25:53.299
night stalker i think so night stalker i think
00:25:53.299 –> 00:25:56.819
those are the only two joes we see yeah and i
00:25:56.819 –> 00:25:59.299
was like oh they’re talking about they don’t
00:25:59.299 –> 00:26:01.599
specifically say the word transformers but they’re
00:26:01.599 –> 00:26:04.400
talking about cybertronians Yeah, they specifically
00:26:04.400 –> 00:26:07.279
say Cybertronians, yeah. And we see the two Joe
00:26:07.279 –> 00:26:10.240
characters, and I’m like, oh man, this is where
00:26:10.240 –> 00:26:12.299
I was like, oh, this is going to spoil me, and
00:26:12.299 –> 00:26:14.420
again, not the story, but spoil me for enjoying
00:26:14.420 –> 00:26:17.640
Mask in the Energon universe, because eventually
00:26:17.640 –> 00:26:19.480
all those properties are going to come together,
00:26:19.660 –> 00:26:21.220
and I think we’re going to get that announcement
00:26:21.220 –> 00:26:26.650
at Comic -Con, by the way. But I feel like, like,
00:26:26.869 –> 00:26:28.630
all right, this is going to spoil my enjoyment
00:26:28.630 –> 00:26:30.349
of the Energon universe stuff. So I’m going to
00:26:30.349 –> 00:26:31.730
stop. And that’s where I told you I’m not going
00:26:31.730 –> 00:26:36.329
to read anymore. Yeah. Up to that point. I feel
00:26:36.329 –> 00:26:39.390
like the story was very cohesive. When we kick
00:26:39.390 –> 00:26:42.069
off with Revolution, based on my remembrance
00:26:42.069 –> 00:26:44.269
here, like I didn’t take notes here. Yeah. With
00:26:44.269 –> 00:26:47.230
my remembrance of this, I feel like it started
00:26:47.230 –> 00:26:49.710
the story off really well. And it actually started
00:26:49.710 –> 00:26:51.630
kind of in the future and then went backwards
00:26:51.630 –> 00:26:53.930
to kind of tell the story. Generally speaking,
00:26:54.190 –> 00:26:57.349
any time that’s used as like a storytelling device,
00:26:57.650 –> 00:27:00.990
I hate it, especially in TV shows. But it seemed
00:27:00.990 –> 00:27:04.289
to work okay here. One of the things they touched
00:27:04.289 –> 00:27:08.210
on where Matt was talking about, we’ll explain
00:27:08.210 –> 00:27:12.890
why like mask is, or sorry, why, Oh, what’s the
00:27:12.890 –> 00:27:16.269
case stand for a command? Like my command starts
00:27:16.269 –> 00:27:20.230
with the letter K. Well, yeah, I was looking
00:27:20.230 –> 00:27:23.829
for that and I saw it nowhere in the comic. It’s
00:27:23.829 –> 00:27:26.470
a joke. Yeah, it’s a joke. Okay. So that pissed
00:27:26.470 –> 00:27:28.710
me off, but it seemed like up until that point,
00:27:28.750 –> 00:27:32.099
like the story was very, It was very cohesive.
00:27:32.460 –> 00:27:36.400
It was easy to understand, easy to follow. And
00:27:36.400 –> 00:27:39.279
once we got past that point, I felt like the
00:27:39.279 –> 00:27:41.299
story was all over the place. That’s where it’s
00:27:41.299 –> 00:27:45.099
almost like I feel the story or this trade didn’t
00:27:45.099 –> 00:27:47.440
capture every bit of the story that it needed
00:27:47.440 –> 00:27:51.299
to for me to enjoy the entire thing. Because
00:27:51.299 –> 00:27:53.240
I didn’t realize going into this that this was
00:27:53.240 –> 00:27:56.019
a shared universe inside of IDW, which clearly
00:27:56.019 –> 00:27:58.539
it is, right? There’s GI Joe involved. Yeah,
00:27:58.539 –> 00:28:03.539
GI Joe. I feel like we’re missing out on some
00:28:03.539 –> 00:28:05.759
of the math stuff that occurred in those issues
00:28:05.759 –> 00:28:08.259
that we don’t have here. Like by the time we
00:28:08.259 –> 00:28:13.799
get to the end in Zartan shows up and this monster
00:28:13.799 –> 00:28:16.339
comes out of the, out of the earth, out of the
00:28:16.339 –> 00:28:19.059
mountain Mount St. Helen. Yeah. I’m like, what
00:28:19.059 –> 00:28:21.119
the hell is any of this? How does any of this
00:28:21.119 –> 00:28:23.059
have to do with anything I just read previously?
00:28:23.440 –> 00:28:25.440
It’s like, it just seems like totally out of
00:28:25.440 –> 00:28:28.819
the blue. I don’t know like where those plot
00:28:28.819 –> 00:28:31.440
points came from. or why they were highlighted
00:28:31.440 –> 00:28:33.519
here. Because if you read, like I said, if you
00:28:33.519 –> 00:28:35.859
read the first initial issues and then you read
00:28:35.859 –> 00:28:38.079
the end of this, it’s like, it seems like two
00:28:38.079 –> 00:28:40.900
completely different series, even though it’s
00:28:40.900 –> 00:28:43.759
written by the same person, which confused me.
00:28:43.799 –> 00:28:45.980
So the only thing I could, I could think of is
00:28:45.980 –> 00:28:48.599
there are pieces of this story that are missing
00:28:48.599 –> 00:28:50.779
because they’re in these other properties, which
00:28:50.779 –> 00:28:55.099
we don’t have here in this trade. Yeah, it’s
00:28:55.099 –> 00:29:00.950
yeah. And I, I don’t blame that on Mr. Easton.
00:29:01.190 –> 00:29:04.970
That’s not his fault. That’s IDW’s fault because
00:29:04.970 –> 00:29:12.769
clearly. Yeah. And like, so. I mean, the way
00:29:12.769 –> 00:29:15.970
this started was there right there down in, I
00:29:15.970 –> 00:29:18.329
think it’s Miami. Is that right? They’re down
00:29:18.329 –> 00:29:20.309
in Miami. Like that whole, if they would have
00:29:20.309 –> 00:29:22.589
just stayed there and like carried out whatever
00:29:22.589 –> 00:29:24.670
missions they’re doing, this would have been
00:29:24.670 –> 00:29:27.650
like it. completely awesome series like i would
00:29:27.650 –> 00:29:29.670
have i would have gone back and reread this numerous
00:29:29.670 –> 00:29:32.869
times because it almost felt like uh i don’t
00:29:32.869 –> 00:29:35.750
know like a modern day -ish like miami vice type
00:29:35.750 –> 00:29:38.069
thing where they’ve got this whole group of characters
00:29:38.069 –> 00:29:40.230
except in this case these characters have some
00:29:40.230 –> 00:29:43.769
semi quasi powers because of their masks and
00:29:43.769 –> 00:29:46.309
they’ve got these souped up uh souped up vehicles
00:29:46.309 –> 00:29:48.670
and everything but it was sort of like it was
00:29:48.670 –> 00:29:50.750
sort of like i’m gonna say quote -unquote based
00:29:50.750 –> 00:29:53.319
in reality even though it’s like reality with
00:29:53.319 –> 00:29:56.140
future sci -fi at least that made sense but by
00:29:56.140 –> 00:29:57.980
the time we got to the end and we got these monsters
00:29:57.980 –> 00:30:01.059
crawling out of the uh the earth and we’ve got
00:30:01.059 –> 00:30:03.440
all these zartan clones and i have i still have
00:30:03.440 –> 00:30:06.960
no idea what they are yeah that was like so off
00:30:06.960 –> 00:30:09.500
the wall it’s not even funny yeah that was a
00:30:09.500 –> 00:30:15.019
little like because literally so i was trying
00:30:15.019 –> 00:30:19.660
my best i am quote -unquote facebook friends
00:30:19.660 –> 00:30:25.289
with mr easton Uh, never have I reached out to
00:30:25.289 –> 00:30:29.950
the man up until preparation for this. I didn’t
00:30:29.950 –> 00:30:32.450
get any responses, which is fine. I understand
00:30:32.450 –> 00:30:34.470
the man’s busy. He doesn’t want to be bothered.
00:30:34.529 –> 00:30:39.109
That’s fine. But I genuinely asked him some genuine
00:30:39.109 –> 00:30:41.849
questions in order to prepare for this. And I
00:30:41.849 –> 00:30:44.670
made a comment. I was like, Oh, cool. Sean Berger.
00:30:45.369 –> 00:30:51.000
Cool. Nice. Love that reference. And then. yeah
00:30:51.000 –> 00:30:54.740
it went to hell and a hell in a hell basket like
00:30:54.740 –> 00:31:02.039
what the like okay the hat that took a to quote
00:31:02.039 –> 00:31:05.779
bugs it took a really sharp turn left turn in
00:31:05.779 –> 00:31:09.059
albuquerque because yikes dude i didn’t say this
00:31:09.059 –> 00:31:12.039
to him obviously but like yeah that was a little
00:31:12.039 –> 00:31:17.400
much and what gets me is that, yes, I know technically
00:31:17.400 –> 00:31:21.579
in a trade paperback, usually you have usually
00:31:21.579 –> 00:31:35.480
you have 12 issues in a trade. However, why is
00:31:35.480 –> 00:31:40.779
the first strike issue not in here? That’s what
00:31:40.779 –> 00:31:45.839
I want to know. Like, That would have made it
00:31:45.839 –> 00:31:49.519
so much… That would have been the missing piece,
00:31:49.740 –> 00:31:56.319
I think. Maybe. Because… I don’t know. At the
00:31:56.319 –> 00:32:01.599
end of this… Just to go straight… No, straight
00:32:01.599 –> 00:32:06.839
to the end. I don’t know. But going to the end
00:32:06.839 –> 00:32:11.859
of this trade… The one thing I like, the only
00:32:11.859 –> 00:32:15.480
thing I liked about the ending to this is Tracker
00:32:15.480 –> 00:32:18.900
saying, next time I’m going to do it smarter.
00:32:19.099 –> 00:32:21.400
I’m going to do it better. I’m going to build
00:32:21.400 –> 00:32:24.880
a better team or whatever it is that he says.
00:32:26.019 –> 00:32:30.559
Like, that’s the only thing I like. I didn’t
00:32:30.559 –> 00:32:32.819
like that either, because then it’s like, did.
00:32:33.559 –> 00:32:35.079
And this, I guess this is a question I’m asking
00:32:35.079 –> 00:32:37.200
you. I didn’t look this up prior. Like, does
00:32:37.200 –> 00:32:39.220
the story continue after this? Like, is there
00:32:39.220 –> 00:32:43.720
more? This is it. Like literally. So the trade,
00:32:43.759 –> 00:32:50.099
so the, the trade that I originally, so I wanted
00:32:50.099 –> 00:32:54.500
to find everything. And when I looked up, cause
00:32:54.500 –> 00:32:57.980
originally I looked it up on the TF wiki, which
00:32:57.980 –> 00:33:02.089
is what I’m on right now. And it originally was
00:33:02.089 –> 00:33:05.470
published in two volumes, which is the first
00:33:05.470 –> 00:33:09.849
five or six issues, and then the second half,
00:33:10.109 –> 00:33:13.349
whatever. And then they did a full, which is
00:33:13.349 –> 00:33:17.210
this version of the trade. And I thought, okay,
00:33:17.289 –> 00:33:19.130
that means they’re going to give us everything,
00:33:19.329 –> 00:33:22.210
right? Right? Thinking they were going to put
00:33:22.210 –> 00:33:26.220
the first strike issue in. They didn’t. which
00:33:26.220 –> 00:33:28.660
is fine. It’s their publishing company. They
00:33:28.660 –> 00:33:30.539
can do whatever the hell they want to as far
00:33:30.539 –> 00:33:35.940
as collected editions, whatever. But yeah, no,
00:33:36.099 –> 00:33:39.640
there is no more mask after this. It was, it
00:33:39.640 –> 00:33:43.180
was done. Cause I’m looking at mask force .com
00:33:43.180 –> 00:33:45.839
for example, and they have like the IDW stuff
00:33:45.839 –> 00:33:49.619
on here and they have IDW revolution zero zero,
00:33:49.720 –> 00:33:52.579
which is that what you’re talking about is this
00:33:52.579 –> 00:33:56.109
is like the prelude to, to the mass comic. Yeah,
00:33:56.230 –> 00:33:59.269
which… Revolution Prelude, sorry. Yeah, Revolution
00:33:59.269 –> 00:34:02.829
Prelude, which is in a remote military base,
00:34:02.890 –> 00:34:06.490
Miles Manheim observes Matt Tracker, Gloria Baker,
00:34:06.849 –> 00:34:10.389
Julio Lopez. That has to be this, right? Here,
00:34:10.469 –> 00:34:15.070
hold on, let me pull this up. Ooh! Technical
00:34:15.070 –> 00:34:18.369
difficulties. Let’s move on, shall we? Now back
00:34:18.369 –> 00:34:21.750
to Mask and Venom. Okay, so the trade that we
00:34:21.750 –> 00:34:24.409
have is Mask, Mobile Armored Strike Command,
00:34:24.670 –> 00:34:28.570
riding Venom’s trail. This was published in 2018.
00:34:29.710 –> 00:34:34.369
This is those two trades put together. All right,
00:34:34.389 –> 00:34:37.269
where are we? Where do we want to be? You were
00:34:37.269 –> 00:34:38.610
talking about the ending, and I was talking about
00:34:38.610 –> 00:34:43.550
how I didn’t like that either. Yeah, I… There’s
00:34:43.550 –> 00:34:45.710
a whole bunch of this comic that I do enjoy.
00:34:45.809 –> 00:34:49.369
Like I said, effectively the whole first half
00:34:49.369 –> 00:34:52.070
of this, I really enjoy. There are some very
00:34:52.070 –> 00:34:55.489
stupid moments in here. One of them, for example,
00:34:55.690 –> 00:35:04.550
is Matt is attacking Miles. And just for no reason
00:35:04.550 –> 00:35:07.969
at all, all of a sudden, and I realize after
00:35:07.969 –> 00:35:10.130
the fact that, I mean, they explain this, it
00:35:10.130 –> 00:35:14.730
ends up being a hologram. yes but his mom just
00:35:14.730 –> 00:35:18.309
shows up for no reason at all yeah yeah that
00:35:18.309 –> 00:35:22.690
was it’s like what how does that even make sense
00:35:22.690 –> 00:35:27.889
in any uh in any part of this story in any way
00:35:27.889 –> 00:35:31.030
at all it doesn’t so it’s like i i don’t know
00:35:31.030 –> 00:35:35.530
that was a little yeah some of the it’s not i
00:35:35.530 –> 00:35:37.690
don’t even think it’s jumps in logic i think
00:35:37.690 –> 00:35:41.159
it’s the way that I don’t think it’s the way
00:35:41.159 –> 00:35:43.079
that we’re even reading it. I just think it’s
00:35:43.079 –> 00:35:50.079
the way that it’s… Oh, no, man. When I read
00:35:50.079 –> 00:35:53.559
this, and I’ve only read it once, I skimmed through
00:35:53.559 –> 00:35:58.679
it before the record just to do a refresher.
00:35:58.940 –> 00:36:09.429
I enjoyed… I want to say… 70 -30? I enjoyed
00:36:09.429 –> 00:36:13.170
it 70 % of the time, and I had problems with
00:36:13.170 –> 00:36:18.750
it 30 % of the time. For this being, I want to
00:36:18.750 –> 00:36:22.090
say, the first time I’ve read Brandon Easton
00:36:22.090 –> 00:36:26.670
as a comic book writer, I liked it for the most
00:36:26.670 –> 00:36:31.449
part. But there are still things in here where
00:36:31.449 –> 00:36:35.039
it’s like, yeah, I don’t know. I think for me,
00:36:35.059 –> 00:36:38.380
what I want to know more and see more with his
00:36:38.380 –> 00:36:41.719
writing is that I want to see more about the
00:36:41.719 –> 00:36:45.920
people as they’re dealing with their masks and
00:36:45.920 –> 00:36:51.059
their vehicles. I’m stuck on the rhino thing,
00:36:51.239 –> 00:36:57.480
the rhino telemetry and telepathy and how you
00:36:57.480 –> 00:37:00.659
have to have two, but one can also do it, kind
00:37:00.659 –> 00:37:04.179
of, sort of, but not really. How dare you blow
00:37:04.179 –> 00:37:07.980
up my favorite truck in mask history and blah,
00:37:08.039 –> 00:37:15.380
blah, blah. Because, yeah. But, I mean, yeah,
00:37:15.420 –> 00:37:19.500
no. I liked it overall for the most part. It’s
00:37:19.500 –> 00:37:23.840
not a comic I’m going to read again. It’s not
00:37:23.840 –> 00:37:27.400
a reread for me. But having the experience now.
00:37:29.099 –> 00:37:31.239
It makes me want to, like I said at the beginning
00:37:31.239 –> 00:37:32.980
of the podcast, it makes me want to go back and
00:37:32.980 –> 00:37:37.199
watch the old episodes of the cartoon. I mean,
00:37:38.360 –> 00:37:41.039
I already had hype for the Energon Universe version.
00:37:41.079 –> 00:37:43.820
It makes me even more interested to see what
00:37:43.820 –> 00:37:50.440
Dan Waters is going to do with the Energon Universe
00:37:50.440 –> 00:37:53.199
version and the multiple interviews I’ve heard
00:37:53.199 –> 00:37:57.639
from him. Along with Piper and just hearing how
00:37:57.639 –> 00:38:01.239
excited they are about the Energon universe version
00:38:01.239 –> 00:38:06.619
of mask. I’m very excited to see what they do.
00:38:07.079 –> 00:38:09.900
Well, I think, I think I’m probably, you said
00:38:09.900 –> 00:38:12.239
you’re about 70, 30. I think I’m about 50, 50.
00:38:13.039 –> 00:38:16.179
And again, if we break it down, like first half
00:38:16.179 –> 00:38:20.539
of this, and it’s probably where the 50, 50 is
00:38:20.539 –> 00:38:23.000
going to come into play. I feel like once we
00:38:23.000 –> 00:38:26.869
hit the midway point, uh i mean even even before
00:38:26.869 –> 00:38:29.329
we hit the midway point um well no i take that
00:38:29.329 –> 00:38:31.349
back let me let me go to the very front here
00:38:31.349 –> 00:38:34.610
uh yeah so once we hit the midway point we effectively
00:38:34.610 –> 00:38:38.670
switch uh artists as well right yeah we don’t
00:38:38.670 –> 00:38:41.849
get tony vargas anymore uh he does uh revolution
00:38:41.849 –> 00:38:46.280
issue one two four and five he bails out for
00:38:46.280 –> 00:38:48.840
issue three for some reason but we get him effectively
00:38:48.840 –> 00:38:52.219
for the first entire half and i love the artwork
00:38:52.219 –> 00:38:54.760
the artwork when he was doing it was fantastic
00:38:54.760 –> 00:38:59.000
i thought uh later in the the the rest of this
00:38:59.000 –> 00:39:02.639
book i would say it’s a mixed bag but the first
00:39:02.639 –> 00:39:04.780
half of this book i really really enjoyed the
00:39:04.780 –> 00:39:08.239
art i think as far as the writing goes this is
00:39:08.239 –> 00:39:12.559
like when you compare with what easton does versus
00:39:12.559 –> 00:39:15.460
with Again, I’ve only read his stuff inside the
00:39:15.460 –> 00:39:17.699
Energon universe. When you compare it with what
00:39:17.699 –> 00:39:20.219
Kirkman has been doing, I think it’s like night
00:39:20.219 –> 00:39:23.659
and day difference. When you open this up, there’s
00:39:23.659 –> 00:39:28.780
just so much text on each page. The art is doing
00:39:28.780 –> 00:39:31.480
a great job at visually storytelling, but then
00:39:31.480 –> 00:39:34.519
there’s a lot of spoken word happening here as
00:39:34.519 –> 00:39:37.679
well. When you compare it with stuff that Kirkman
00:39:37.679 –> 00:39:41.119
does, that’s not really the case. I guess I would
00:39:41.119 –> 00:39:44.579
even say most of the energon universe comics
00:39:44.579 –> 00:39:46.739
right there’s not a whole lot that’s going on
00:39:46.739 –> 00:39:50.159
in these word bowls no and what is there right
00:39:50.159 –> 00:39:54.280
there isn’t a whole lot of word bubbles to see
00:39:54.280 –> 00:39:56.619
it packed on here it’s not as packed as what
00:39:56.619 –> 00:39:59.260
it is with like more than meets the eye and robots
00:39:59.260 –> 00:40:04.320
in disguise okay but okay okay okay hang on really
00:40:04.320 –> 00:40:09.900
different people hang on a second here robots
00:40:09.900 –> 00:40:14.039
in disguise are more than meets the eye are essentially
00:40:14.039 –> 00:40:19.659
you said novels right they’re they’re like novels
00:40:19.659 –> 00:40:26.500
slash stage plays with visual accents around
00:40:26.500 –> 00:40:31.159
them all right i mean that’s that’s fair but
00:40:31.159 –> 00:40:32.980
here like i’m saying like there’s a lot of text
00:40:32.980 –> 00:40:34.780
on here which i think is good because there’s
00:40:34.780 –> 00:40:37.260
a lot of story here on these pages it’s just
00:40:37.260 –> 00:40:39.920
once we hit that midway mark i don’t know what
00:40:39.920 –> 00:40:43.489
the hell happens But in my opinion, the story
00:40:43.489 –> 00:40:45.670
just goes completely off the rails. And I had
00:40:45.670 –> 00:40:48.070
a hard time following it. That’s where it’s like,
00:40:48.150 –> 00:40:51.150
I don’t know if other mask pieces were introduced
00:40:51.150 –> 00:40:54.349
in G .I. Joe inside of Transformers. And it’s
00:40:54.349 –> 00:40:56.789
just not included here. Again, I don’t know that
00:40:56.789 –> 00:40:59.130
it’s the fault of the writing. As you mentioned,
00:40:59.230 –> 00:41:02.730
it’s the fault of IDW for not including those
00:41:02.730 –> 00:41:04.829
bits here because we’re losing out on part of
00:41:04.829 –> 00:41:07.769
the story. And because of that, it’s hard to
00:41:07.769 –> 00:41:09.769
understand what’s going on. But I think the first
00:41:09.769 –> 00:41:12.780
half. It’s very easy for me to follow. And then,
00:41:12.800 –> 00:41:14.500
like I said, I don’t know if they started having
00:41:14.500 –> 00:41:16.639
more crossover when the second half happened
00:41:16.639 –> 00:41:19.440
here, but for me personally, I had a hard time
00:41:19.440 –> 00:41:22.300
following the story. Yeah. A couple of other
00:41:22.300 –> 00:41:25.340
things that I disliked throughout this. I don’t,
00:41:25.340 –> 00:41:27.099
I don’t know that I get a sense from reading
00:41:27.099 –> 00:41:29.380
this, which is funny because this was the introduction
00:41:29.380 –> 00:41:34.539
of mask, like why we have these masks at all.
00:41:35.050 –> 00:41:37.869
Why we have these vehicles at all. Like, why
00:41:37.869 –> 00:41:41.570
are they a thing? Why did miles mayhem put this
00:41:41.570 –> 00:41:44.150
team together only to say, Oh my bad. I’m out.
00:41:44.250 –> 00:41:46.469
Peace out. And I’m putting together my own group.
00:41:46.530 –> 00:41:48.389
It’s like, but you were just putting together
00:41:48.389 –> 00:41:50.590
the mass group. Now you’re leaving it and you’re
00:41:50.590 –> 00:41:53.210
putting together the venom group. I didn’t understand
00:41:53.210 –> 00:41:57.449
why that happened. Okay. But that’s the thing
00:41:57.449 –> 00:42:04.789
though. He, let me try to, it’s, Following formula
00:42:04.789 –> 00:42:12.530
from the show, he’s essentially traitoring. He’s…
00:42:12.530 –> 00:42:17.190
Give me a valid reason as to why you’re doing
00:42:17.190 –> 00:42:18.809
it. Like, that’s not even stated here. I get
00:42:18.809 –> 00:42:21.309
it that, right, this is like a throwback to,
00:42:21.369 –> 00:42:23.869
oh, a good versus bad. We need a good guy and
00:42:23.869 –> 00:42:26.429
a bad guy version of this. But, like, it’s not
00:42:26.429 –> 00:42:28.570
explained why he just, like, gives up the mask
00:42:28.570 –> 00:42:30.510
group and is like, ha ha ha, I’m going off to
00:42:30.510 –> 00:42:34.730
make Venom. It just sort of happens. And like,
00:42:34.789 –> 00:42:37.110
I didn’t, I didn’t follow that. Like at least
00:42:37.110 –> 00:42:38.929
within the Energon universe that we’ve seen so
00:42:38.929 –> 00:42:42.710
far, like we see, we haven’t seen miles really
00:42:42.710 –> 00:42:45.170
do anything with the mass. I still don’t understand.
00:42:45.190 –> 00:42:47.670
Again, I have no background on mask. I don’t
00:42:47.670 –> 00:42:50.429
know why these masks are created. I don’t know
00:42:50.429 –> 00:42:53.710
why they have to tie in with the vehicles. I
00:42:53.710 –> 00:42:55.250
don’t, I don’t understand any of that. There’s
00:42:55.250 –> 00:42:57.349
no background, no backstory at any of that here.
00:42:58.510 –> 00:43:01.360
I’m hoping. in the energon universe we get some
00:43:01.360 –> 00:43:03.760
of that but here in idw from what we’ve read
00:43:03.760 –> 00:43:06.219
in the here i’ve not seen any of that now maybe
00:43:06.219 –> 00:43:08.880
i should have come into this knowing about mask
00:43:08.880 –> 00:43:11.679
but if this is my first introduction and i don’t
00:43:11.679 –> 00:43:13.760
know any of it it seems like it should be in
00:43:13.760 –> 00:43:19.280
the story yeah but again every everybody’s good
00:43:19.280 –> 00:43:21.280
with what you’ve got pulled up here right now
00:43:21.849 –> 00:43:24.309
I have no idea what the hell this has to do with
00:43:24.309 –> 00:43:26.809
the story at all. I’m like, are we looking at
00:43:26.809 –> 00:43:29.690
street fighter characters here? Like what? Sorry.
00:43:30.070 –> 00:43:34.170
I forgot. I had the screen share still on. Sorry.
00:43:34.590 –> 00:43:37.369
Let me turn that off. No, I mean, that’s fine.
00:43:37.469 –> 00:43:39.230
Like I was, I was reading that. I was trying
00:43:39.230 –> 00:43:44.719
to. I’m trying to find the annual in the thing
00:43:44.719 –> 00:43:48.599
because I wanted to discuss the annual at some
00:43:48.599 –> 00:43:51.619
point. I effectively just read through that portion
00:43:51.619 –> 00:43:54.059
and I just kind of skipped the rest of it because
00:43:54.059 –> 00:43:57.300
I’m like, I have no idea how this has any merit
00:43:57.300 –> 00:43:59.880
to what I’m reading. So it looks like Street
00:43:59.880 –> 00:44:03.119
Fighter. I’m just going to go on by it. There
00:44:03.119 –> 00:44:05.519
we go. No, no, no. Sorry, sorry, sorry. I forgot
00:44:05.519 –> 00:44:09.969
I had the screen share still on. No, I… But
00:44:09.969 –> 00:44:11.489
no, you’re right. But here’s the thing, though.
00:44:12.130 –> 00:44:18.269
One of the things I love in podcasting is I have
00:44:18.269 –> 00:44:21.329
most of the history with Mask. Like I said, grew
00:44:21.329 –> 00:44:24.130
up with the cartoon, had the toys, yada, yada,
00:44:24.130 –> 00:44:26.409
yada. You don’t have any of that history. So
00:44:26.409 –> 00:44:29.889
you’re just walking into this kind of cold. I
00:44:29.889 –> 00:44:32.389
started you out with this to not necessarily
00:44:32.389 –> 00:44:37.829
get you into what we have coming over on. the
00:44:37.829 –> 00:44:39.989
other show with another comic review with the
00:44:39.989 –> 00:44:43.309
Energon universe, but to just kind of, you know,
00:44:43.309 –> 00:44:47.670
see what the previous comic company did with
00:44:47.670 –> 00:44:52.170
the license kind of thing, because I, this is
00:44:52.170 –> 00:44:54.469
my first time ever reading this, even though
00:44:54.469 –> 00:44:57.650
I knew the cartoon and I was already excited.
00:44:57.710 –> 00:44:59.250
Like I said, I’ve already said multiple times
00:44:59.250 –> 00:45:04.409
in this, I was already excited for, for it. There’s
00:45:04.409 –> 00:45:07.550
that end point. That’s what I was looking for.
00:45:08.210 –> 00:45:14.070
But it’s one of those things where I just wanted
00:45:14.070 –> 00:45:17.389
to, like, there’s nothing wrong with somebody,
00:45:17.530 –> 00:45:21.070
something being somebody’s first time for whatever.
00:45:21.250 –> 00:45:25.429
That’s how, like, that’s how the world goes around.
00:45:25.690 –> 00:45:28.190
Everybody has to have a first at some point or
00:45:28.190 –> 00:45:33.750
another. And, you know, I understand you’re worried
00:45:33.750 –> 00:45:38.260
about. having this be the first mask thing, even
00:45:38.260 –> 00:45:40.119
though technically it isn’t the Energon universe
00:45:40.119 –> 00:45:42.500
was because of free comic book day, but like
00:45:42.500 –> 00:45:45.420
reading this versus reading that, I don’t think
00:45:45.420 –> 00:45:48.460
this is going to affect what you read in the
00:45:48.460 –> 00:45:51.460
Energon universe. Cause this is, thankfully they
00:45:51.460 –> 00:45:53.840
didn’t go on to make, I mean, as much as I would
00:45:53.840 –> 00:45:56.880
have been interested to read the story, this
00:45:56.880 –> 00:46:03.639
is the only mask we have. Um, so. you know, for,
00:46:03.840 –> 00:46:11.139
for IDW. And I just needed to get more mask in
00:46:11.139 –> 00:46:14.340
my life. And since it last year was the 80th,
00:46:14.340 –> 00:46:18.920
the 80th, wow. 40th anniversary last year. And
00:46:18.920 –> 00:46:22.400
we’ve got this coming up and all this and all
00:46:22.400 –> 00:46:25.239
that. I wanted to get this, uh, an episode for
00:46:25.239 –> 00:46:29.980
the IDW book, uh, in the books as it were, but
00:46:29.980 –> 00:46:35.309
no, what I was looking for. As you were alluding
00:46:35.309 –> 00:46:39.309
to, I was looking for the story in the 2017 annual
00:46:39.309 –> 00:46:44.510
because the 2017 annual has two stories. It has
00:46:44.510 –> 00:46:51.590
the Death Stone, which is a title reference to
00:46:51.590 –> 00:46:57.050
the very first episode of Mask, and it has Child’s
00:46:57.050 –> 00:47:01.809
Play. Child’s Play, which I thought was Sly’s
00:47:01.809 –> 00:47:06.369
origin, it’s not. It’s Cliff Dagger’s origin.
00:47:09.099 –> 00:47:11.940
As he’s pummeled by an opponent, undefeated champion
00:47:11.940 –> 00:47:16.420
Body Bags, rising MMA star Cliff Dagger has a
00:47:16.420 –> 00:47:18.960
flashback to his childhood, remembering when
00:47:18.960 –> 00:47:22.880
he was awoken late one night and beaten by his
00:47:22.880 –> 00:47:25.820
drunken father after he learned that Cliff hadn’t
00:47:25.820 –> 00:47:29.159
fought back against a bully at school. And I
00:47:29.159 –> 00:47:31.440
wanted to discuss this because, first of all,
00:47:31.440 –> 00:47:37.360
folks, bullying is not uh -uh. Nope. Just uh
00:47:37.360 –> 00:47:40.469
-uh. Don’t even do that. I was bullied as a kid
00:47:40.469 –> 00:47:43.409
myself. So bullying must be stopped no matter
00:47:43.409 –> 00:47:47.030
the cost. But I love that they, in the annual,
00:47:47.190 –> 00:47:51.949
they chose to highlight a story like this. And
00:47:51.949 –> 00:47:54.750
I thought that story was, you know, a story for
00:47:54.750 –> 00:47:59.690
standing up for yourself and just do whatever
00:47:59.690 –> 00:48:02.329
you can to stand up for yourself. And that Cliff
00:48:02.329 –> 00:48:05.949
Dagger would eventually go on to become… part
00:48:05.949 –> 00:48:09.429
of Venom’s team and just the way they use the
00:48:09.429 –> 00:48:14.429
character. I thought it was so good. So I, I
00:48:14.429 –> 00:48:17.289
just love that, that, that part of the annual,
00:48:17.449 –> 00:48:22.409
um, the other story is just your standard kind
00:48:22.409 –> 00:48:28.389
of mask story. It’s not, uh, I don’t know. It’s
00:48:28.389 –> 00:48:31.269
just your standard mask story. It’s a way of
00:48:31.269 –> 00:48:35.059
homaging the, debut of the animated series 41
00:48:35.059 –> 00:48:44.780
years ago. Who is your least favorite character
00:48:44.780 –> 00:48:48.519
in all of this? Because I think mine, I think
00:48:48.519 –> 00:48:55.019
mine ended up being Matt tracker. I don’t like
00:48:55.019 –> 00:48:59.300
the characters constantly. I mean, miles specifically
00:48:59.300 –> 00:49:03.559
is like constantly saying like, uh he’s effectively
00:49:03.559 –> 00:49:05.940
like running him down right it’s he’s like you
00:49:05.940 –> 00:49:08.860
don’t have what it takes to be a leader uh he
00:49:08.860 –> 00:49:10.780
calls him out all these numerous times and then
00:49:10.780 –> 00:49:13.139
by the end of the book his own teammates are
00:49:13.139 –> 00:49:14.980
saying the same thing and right and then he even
00:49:14.980 –> 00:49:19.539
walks away from the team It’s very much like
00:49:19.539 –> 00:49:21.619
a struggle of trying to be the leader, right?
00:49:21.659 –> 00:49:24.500
Kind of what we see in Transformers Season 3
00:49:24.500 –> 00:49:29.679
with Rodimus Prime. Wait a minute. Hold on. Full
00:49:29.679 –> 00:49:32.000
dead stop. You are not going to sit here and
00:49:32.000 –> 00:49:34.300
compare Matt Tracker to Rodimus Prime. We’re
00:49:34.300 –> 00:49:39.199
in big trouble. Relax! Enjoy the ride! He’s very,
00:49:39.280 –> 00:49:44.420
very similar, yeah. Stop it! I’m not going to
00:49:44.420 –> 00:49:47.119
learn from any of this. with my current team,
00:49:47.159 –> 00:49:49.380
right? Like, why try to improve myself? I’m just
00:49:49.380 –> 00:49:51.599
going to walk off, and I’m going to start a new
00:49:51.599 –> 00:49:54.559
team. It’s like, okay. Again, I know the story
00:49:54.559 –> 00:49:56.440
ends there, but it’s like, if that’s effectively
00:49:56.440 –> 00:50:00.360
what happens, that’s pretty terrible as a leader.
00:50:00.960 –> 00:50:03.380
Yeah, Rodimus never did that, though, thankfully.
00:50:04.039 –> 00:50:06.320
So at least Rodimus is better than Matt in that
00:50:06.320 –> 00:50:10.039
one aspect. Last big party of the summer, folks!
00:50:10.300 –> 00:50:14.659
Let’s go out with a bang! Yeah, I would not say
00:50:14.659 –> 00:50:24.519
that I like Matt in this. I like Sly, and I like
00:50:24.519 –> 00:50:28.260
Brad. Brad’s always been a cool character to
00:50:28.260 –> 00:50:36.059
me. So that’s one from each side. What about
00:50:36.059 –> 00:50:40.619
you? In terms of a character I liked or didn’t
00:50:40.619 –> 00:50:46.829
like? Yeah, I liked. so i think and i got a thing
00:50:46.829 –> 00:50:48.869
i’m going to talk about why but i also didn’t
00:50:48.869 –> 00:50:51.570
like about this but i think i liked gloria the
00:50:51.570 –> 00:50:56.869
most okay uh i think i think just her interaction
00:50:56.869 –> 00:51:00.010
with matt not just from like the love affair
00:51:00.010 –> 00:51:03.110
aspect of it but um like she’s the one who calls
00:51:03.110 –> 00:51:05.809
him out at by the end of this thing yeah although
00:51:05.809 –> 00:51:09.409
she does kind of like turn turn back on that
00:51:09.409 –> 00:51:12.230
and like hugs him here at the end because effectively
00:51:12.230 –> 00:51:15.769
didn’t die. But, um, I think her interaction
00:51:15.769 –> 00:51:21.090
with Matt and trying to get him to, I don’t know,
00:51:21.150 –> 00:51:25.389
uh, be a better leader, I think was, was good
00:51:25.389 –> 00:51:28.690
to see the, the part that I didn’t like about
00:51:28.690 –> 00:51:34.530
this character. And this is no, uh, this is not
00:51:34.530 –> 00:51:37.010
a negative thing on the writing. This is more
00:51:37.010 –> 00:51:40.750
on the artist. She’s drawn very salaciously in
00:51:40.750 –> 00:51:43.110
the first half here, so I can only imagine it’s
00:51:43.110 –> 00:51:48.190
because of our artist here. What’s his name?
00:51:48.590 –> 00:51:54.630
Because of our artist, Tony. Tony Vargas, I think?
00:51:54.929 –> 00:52:01.670
Yeah. I just kept seeing page after page. I’m
00:52:01.670 –> 00:52:04.969
like, okay, this is definitely drawn for the
00:52:04.969 –> 00:52:10.579
horny teenage boy. because it was like one page
00:52:10.579 –> 00:52:13.099
after the next was like, it was just getting
00:52:13.099 –> 00:52:17.420
worse and worse. Maybe you could say the same
00:52:17.420 –> 00:52:21.940
thing about Vanessa as well, but I think we see
00:52:21.940 –> 00:52:25.119
it more with Gloria, because we effectively see
00:52:25.119 –> 00:52:29.099
more of Gloria. Yeah, that’s true. I’d like to
00:52:29.099 –> 00:52:33.690
see more of Vanessa, actually. But that goes
00:52:33.690 –> 00:52:44.429
back to my childhood. Okay. On the GCRN universal
00:52:44.429 –> 00:52:48.670
ratings scale, the geek meter, we rate zero to
00:52:48.670 –> 00:52:50.650
five with half points. What are you going to
00:52:50.650 –> 00:52:56.929
give? What the hell is this thing called? Oh,
00:52:56.929 –> 00:53:01.130
God. Matt, the mask trade all in one, what are
00:53:01.130 –> 00:53:02.769
you going to give it? Zero to five with half
00:53:02.769 –> 00:53:08.909
points. So again, I think I enjoyed the first
00:53:08.909 –> 00:53:11.929
half of this story. I enjoyed the art and the
00:53:11.929 –> 00:53:14.610
first half of this story. I think the writing
00:53:14.610 –> 00:53:18.789
throughout was good, regardless of the fact that
00:53:18.789 –> 00:53:20.449
I didn’t really like the second half of this
00:53:20.449 –> 00:53:22.369
story, because again, I think we’re missing parts
00:53:22.369 –> 00:53:25.150
of the story. So it didn’t, the story didn’t
00:53:25.150 –> 00:53:28.699
make any sense to me. Or the writer was told,
00:53:28.820 –> 00:53:32.659
hey, we’re going this direction now. Ignore everything
00:53:32.659 –> 00:53:35.400
you did previously. Because again, I think if
00:53:35.400 –> 00:53:37.119
you read the first half of this and the second
00:53:37.119 –> 00:53:39.579
half of this, they do not mesh together story
00:53:39.579 –> 00:53:42.619
-wise at all. It just feels like it almost feels
00:53:42.619 –> 00:53:45.289
like a different writer. Yeah. But I know that
00:53:45.289 –> 00:53:47.110
it’s not. So it’s like, there was a change of
00:53:47.110 –> 00:53:49.269
direction or something there. It’s like, we got
00:53:49.269 –> 00:53:52.469
to work in this story, these story beats because
00:53:52.469 –> 00:53:55.469
of the overall grander story inside of this universe
00:53:55.469 –> 00:53:57.710
of IDW. I don’t know. Cause again, I didn’t read
00:53:57.710 –> 00:54:01.789
IDW. Uh, but with that said, I, I would probably
00:54:01.789 –> 00:54:05.110
give it a three and a half out of five. Yeah.
00:54:05.789 –> 00:54:07.630
Again, I know I said I liked it. It was probably
00:54:07.630 –> 00:54:09.309
about 50, 50, but I think probably three and
00:54:09.309 –> 00:54:13.739
a half out of five. Yeah. I’m. I’m right there
00:54:13.739 –> 00:54:17.820
with you. I think it’s like I said, it’s, I like
00:54:17.820 –> 00:54:23.900
70, 30. There’s like minor nitpick type things.
00:54:24.039 –> 00:54:28.460
And for those that may need a reminder on what
00:54:28.460 –> 00:54:33.210
three and a half. Is on the Geek Meter for GCRN
00:54:33.210 –> 00:54:36.869
rating scale. It is good. It’s a mixed bag, but
00:54:36.869 –> 00:54:39.869
the good stuff outweighs the bad. There might
00:54:39.869 –> 00:54:44.570
be one amazing element or lots of fun moments
00:54:44.570 –> 00:54:48.650
that make the flaws easier to swallow. They are
00:54:48.650 –> 00:54:52.289
not deal breakers, but they do hold it back.
00:54:53.610 –> 00:54:56.449
Well, maybe I’ll dump it down to a three. Okay.
00:54:56.550 –> 00:54:58.889
Three and a half is there. Three is average.
00:54:59.909 –> 00:55:03.690
It’s not bad. It’s not amazing either. For me,
00:55:03.710 –> 00:55:06.269
it would be an easy four if the second half of
00:55:06.269 –> 00:55:09.329
this story matched the first half. Yeah. Like
00:55:09.329 –> 00:55:14.030
I said earlier, that 30 % for me is basically
00:55:14.030 –> 00:55:18.909
Sean Berger turns into a giant. whatever the
00:55:18.909 –> 00:55:22.769
hell that was weird as hell that and then like
00:55:22.769 –> 00:55:25.750
you said the zartan shows up and zartan’s clones
00:55:25.750 –> 00:55:28.230
and all of this and it’s like and i don’t the
00:55:28.230 –> 00:55:32.630
clones yeah and i don’t mind like mask and gi
00:55:32.630 –> 00:55:36.750
joe working together hand in hand or foot and
00:55:36.750 –> 00:55:39.920
foot or Vehicle in vehicle, that’s fine. I actually
00:55:39.920 –> 00:55:43.679
loved Scarlet working with Mask. That was cool
00:55:43.679 –> 00:55:47.599
as hell to me. That was part of my 70 % was seeing
00:55:47.599 –> 00:55:51.639
Scarlet with them because I’m like, ooh, I can
00:55:51.639 –> 00:55:55.480
now see Kelly Thompson writing a new Scarlet
00:55:55.480 –> 00:55:59.659
miniseries featuring Scarlet and Gloria against
00:55:59.659 –> 00:56:05.519
Vanessa and somebody. Oh, God. Scarlet and Gloria
00:56:05.519 –> 00:56:09.820
versus Vanessa and Baroness. Mask Gia. Oh, God,
00:56:09.960 –> 00:56:13.519
Kelly. Kelly Thompson, I can hear it in my head.
00:56:14.280 –> 00:56:21.000
I know it’ll never happen. Anyway, you’re giving
00:56:21.000 –> 00:56:23.760
it a three. I’m giving it a three and a half.
00:56:23.960 –> 00:56:27.239
Like I said, my 70 % kind of outweighs my 30
00:56:27.239 –> 00:56:31.659
% of the bad stuff. I still enjoyed it overall.
00:56:32.969 –> 00:56:35.610
Anytime I can walk away from reading a comic
00:56:35.610 –> 00:56:40.409
feeling good and not feeling like, Oh my God,
00:56:40.469 –> 00:56:44.469
why did I read that? That’s a, that’s a good
00:56:44.469 –> 00:56:48.050
comic reading adventure for me. Yeah. It was
00:56:48.050 –> 00:56:50.190
more along the lines of what did I just read?
00:56:50.309 –> 00:56:53.849
Yeah. Why did I read this? Yeah, exactly. But
00:56:53.849 –> 00:56:56.429
again, that’s the second half. The first half
00:56:56.429 –> 00:57:02.920
I think is certainly more, uh, more on par with
00:57:02.920 –> 00:57:05.579
what i would be interested in story -wise for
00:57:05.579 –> 00:57:09.960
like an ongoing comic less of the the sci -fi
00:57:09.960 –> 00:57:13.000
stuff we get here at the end which again doesn’t
00:57:13.000 –> 00:57:17.460
make any sense to me so yep yep absolutely all
00:57:17.460 –> 00:57:19.659
right folks we’re gonna send it to a quick ad
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I’m sure your insurance company will cover that.
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No, they won’t. No, they probably won’t. We got
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him. Now back to the show. All right, folks.
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We are back here inside the pull bag. This is
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episode 586. We are so close to 600. Kind of,
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sort of. Not really, but almost. All right, Jesse.
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Promote yourself, sir. What kind of podcasts
01:02:29.880 –> 01:02:33.980
are you doing these days? Transforming them wires
01:02:33.980 –> 01:02:37.800
or something? I’ve got another comic review over
01:02:37.800 –> 01:02:42.340
at anothercomicreview .com. We have Transformers
01:02:42.340 –> 01:02:44.699
number 32 of the Energon universe coming out
01:02:44.699 –> 01:02:47.619
actually tomorrow as of this recording. So looking
01:02:47.619 –> 01:02:50.679
forward to that. We’re heading back to Cybertron.
01:02:51.900 –> 01:02:55.039
Some of it has already been leaked online. I’ve
01:02:55.039 –> 01:02:58.659
looked at that. So, yeah, I’m looking forward
01:02:58.659 –> 01:03:00.860
to seeing what’s in store for the rest of the
01:03:00.860 –> 01:03:06.130
issue. I love how he hesitates. I’m not making
01:03:06.130 –> 01:03:08.730
fun of your stutter or anything, but I love the
01:03:08.730 –> 01:03:12.650
hesitation of, I’m kind of looking forward. Maybe,
01:03:12.829 –> 01:03:15.769
I don’t know. I mean, in what I’ve seen that’s
01:03:15.769 –> 01:03:17.969
been leaked so far, the art’s already hit or
01:03:17.969 –> 01:03:20.429
miss for me, so I knew that was going to be the
01:03:20.429 –> 01:03:23.809
case. Oh, no. It’s like, well, am I really looking
01:03:23.809 –> 01:03:28.079
forward to it? I don’t know. We’ll see. You can
01:03:28.079 –> 01:03:30.480
also find me on YouTube. I’m at youtube .com
01:03:30.480 –> 01:03:34.199
slash matrix underscore prime. Yeah, there you
01:03:34.199 –> 01:03:38.440
go, folks. All right. This has been episode 586,
01:03:38.519 –> 01:03:41.400
and you’ll hear all that stuff in the past, folks,
01:03:41.480 –> 01:03:43.039
since I don’t know when this episode’s coming
01:03:43.039 –> 01:03:46.579
out, because I still have to finish editing episode
01:03:46.579 –> 01:03:49.159
581. Tomorrow. It’s coming out tomorrow, right?
01:03:49.340 –> 01:03:53.780
Well, this episode? Yeah. No. This episode’s
01:03:53.780 –> 01:03:56.400
not coming out tomorrow. This episode’s coming
01:03:56.400 –> 01:04:02.099
out in the far -flung future of 2016, or maybe
01:04:02.099 –> 01:04:05.460
it’ll come out 40 years later, or 40 years in
01:04:05.460 –> 01:04:07.719
the past. Yes, release it on the 80th anniversary,
01:04:07.820 –> 01:04:11.019
like you were mentioning. Yeah, no, no, can’t
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do that. By that time, podcasting will just be
01:04:14.199 –> 01:04:16.880
something that we, you know, have a wire stuck
01:04:16.880 –> 01:04:20.679
in our head like the old PS9 commercial. Does
01:04:20.679 –> 01:04:24.400
anybody remember the PS9 commercial? I do, yes.
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Oh, thank God. Thank God I’m not making that
01:04:27.119 –> 01:04:38.920
up. New for 2078. PlayStation 9’s new electronic
01:04:38.920 –> 01:04:41.179
spores tap straight into your adrenal gland.
01:04:45.619 –> 01:04:51.849
PS9 has improved retinal scanning. A mind control
01:04:51.849 –> 01:04:55.449
system. A holographic movie surround vision.
01:05:01.030 –> 01:05:13.869
And telepathic personal music. The ultimate just
01:05:13.869 –> 01:05:18.550
got better. PlayStation 9. Teleport yours today.
01:05:25.360 –> 01:05:28.760
All right, folks, that’s going to do it for us.
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01:06:27.190 –> 01:06:30.750
have to edit it now. I don’t have to do any more
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recording for next time. We head back to DC Comics
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where my buddy Dave McElvenny and I discussed
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the five issue, six issue, I think it’s five.
01:06:41.070 –> 01:06:44.670
We discussed Crypto, the last dog of Krypton.
01:06:45.150 –> 01:06:49.130
For now, I am TF2 and Mike with… Jesse, I think.
01:06:49.230 –> 01:06:51.409
You think? You don’t know? You’re supposed to
01:06:51.409 –> 01:06:54.670
know these things, man. As always, make it your
01:06:54.670 –> 01:06:58.449
greatest game of the comics. I thought the festival
01:06:58.449 –> 01:07:01.789
lasted till sunset. It turned out to be a limited
01:07:01.789 –> 01:07:05.369
engagement. You should have seen it, Dad. A king
01:07:05.369 –> 01:07:07.690
cobra followed this floating flute and scared
01:07:07.690 –> 01:07:10.769
everybody. And Scott climbed a rope that went
01:07:10.769 –> 01:07:13.650
straight up in the air. Wait a minute. Floating
01:07:13.650 –> 01:07:17.219
flutes? Running cobras? Alex. Well, not that
01:07:17.219 –> 01:07:20.539
it makes any sense, but a fakie somehow did the
01:07:20.539 –> 01:07:23.420
genuine Indian rope trick. At the same moment,
01:07:23.579 –> 01:07:26.679
a flute went winging through the air, luring
01:07:26.679 –> 01:07:29.380
a cobra from the festival. Then as soon as the
01:07:29.380 –> 01:07:32.119
cobra left, the rope I was climbing went limp.
01:07:32.460 –> 01:07:35.199
Sometimes the eye does not behold the truth.
01:07:35.420 –> 01:07:38.469
I think I can still catch the curtain call. And
01:07:38.469 –> 01:07:41.269
maybe Mr. Subas can help. You’ve just heard the
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TFG1Mike is a geek with many interests. He has been podcasting for over a decade, and sees no stopping point in sight. From Transformers, He-Man, Batman, Comics, movies, video games, cartoons, and so much more, Mike has a zeal for the things he loves, and he will bring the hammer down on the things that he has a disdain for. He's generally a postive person, but negativity can creep in there. Mike is all about the innuendos and innuendon'ts too. You'll hear him on many of The GCRN podcasts!

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