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In Episode 585 of The Pull Bag join TFG1Mike and we have the return of Jesse Earley as they go back to IDW Publishing to read through and discuss the M.A.S.K. – Mobile Armored Strike Kommand – Riding V.E.N.O.M.’s Trail! They talk about the story, the art, the whole M.A.S.K. concept, the 80’s cartoon, and the future of M.A.S.K. with Skybound Entertainment and the Energon Universe. However the focus is definitely on this 12 issue collected edition of the IDW Comics series! As always Make Your Great Escape Into Comics!!!

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WEBVTT

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Hi, this is Christy Marks, the writer of Gem

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and the Holograms and Beast Wars, and you’re

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listening to Geekcast Radio Network. Hey, it’s

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Jesse Rass here, and you’ve made the great escape

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into comics by jumping inside the pull bag today.

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Illusion is the ultimate weapon. You’ve just

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jumped inside the pull bag. This is episode 585.

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We’ve got just a few more episodes until the

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landmark 600th episode of this podcast, folks.

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I am, of course, TF2 and Mike, and I’m coming

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to you live, kind of, sort of, not really, since

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this is always recorded, but this is episode

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585, and I am pulling a switcheroo. This is going

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to be the IDW Publishing Mask episode that Jesse

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Early, a .k .a. Matrix Prime, from another comic

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review. That’s his podcast. We recorded this

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as episode 586. Originally, this was going to

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be Skybound Entertainment Transformers Volume

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2 Transport to Oblivion. But Steve Megatron and

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I haven’t been able to record that just yet.

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So instead of waiting and instead of waiting

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for episode 586 and getting the mask episode.

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Because as of this recording, Skybound Entertainment

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has released mask number one. You are going to

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be getting on that release day, even though it’ll

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be backdated and yada, yada, yada, yada, yada.

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This will be episode 585, and this is going to

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be our coverage of the IDW publishing story for

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mask mobile armored strike command. This is the

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full trade. This is my conversation with Jesse

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Early where we review the IDW publishing story

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for Mask written by Brandon Easton. So please

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enjoy. Originally this was going to be episode

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586. It is now 585. Mask is 31 years old at this

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point. The cartoon debuted in 1985. It only had

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75 episodes. If you want to go back in the cartoon

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vaults here on the Geekcast Radio Network, you

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can check out a podcast called Masked Mayhem

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with my buddy Optimus Solo, where we discussed

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all 75 episodes of Mask, actually. I think Optimus

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Solo tapped out after the first season, and my

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other buddy, Tim Silvers, helped me finish out

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the racing season, which is those last ten episodes.

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But anyway, folks, please enjoy the Pull Bags

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episode 585, Mask, from IDW Publishing. And now,

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on with the show! Are you ready for more? Let’s

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go! Alright, you good to go? As good as I’m going

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to be. It’ll be painless, I promise. It’ll be

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painless. Hey, look, I’m doing all the work this

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time. You have just jumped inside the pull bag.

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I am TF2 and Mike, and today’s featured guest

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is none other than Jesse from another comic review.

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Hey, it’s been a while since we had Jesse on

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the show, folks. You said 2023? 2024, technically,

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you had your podcast approach over on Studio

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2009. Just a couple years. Yeah, a couple years.

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We’re fast approaching your three -year anniversary

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of your own podcast, June 16th of this year.

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You think you got this comics thing down? I don’t

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know if I got it down, but I’ve certainly been

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reading far more comics than what I imagined

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that was going to be. And it’s not just the Energon

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Universe stuff, which is what we’ve been covering,

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but I’ve been reading other stuff as well. So

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that’s kind of actually surprised me quite a

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bit. Well, that’s good. That just means in a

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couple of years or so, you can jump back inside

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the pull bag with me and go through the 30 questions

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all about reading comics. So same premise as

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the podcast approach. just 30 questions about

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comics. But today, folks, leading up to the stuff

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with the Energon universe that’s currently going

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on, we’re going to head back to the IDW publishing

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vault and make sure our spectrums are ready because

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illusion is the ultimate weapon. That’s right.

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Even though Skybound already released their free

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comic book day issue for 2026, which gave us

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our first taste of their version of Mobile Armored

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Strike Command, their full launch is June 3rd.

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I thought it would be awesome that we unleashed

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some of our own mass mayhem. Right here on the

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Geekcast Radio Network and discuss the IDW series

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ahead of the Skybound launch. Oh, yeah. Also,

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this episode will be a double bill on the pull

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bag and the old school mask cartoon review show

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that Optimus Solo and I did way back in the day

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in 2011. I can’t believe it was 2011 that we

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did Masked Mayhem. For those that may not remember,

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and for those that do remember, Masked Mayhem

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was us reviewing all 75 episodes of Mask from

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1985. And honestly, really, you only need to

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watch the first season. It’s 65 episodes, because

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65 was syndication in the olden days. Those last

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10 episodes was deemed, the second season of

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the show was deemed the racing season. It’s not

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that good. Heck, Optimus Solo tapped out. I had

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to bring in a ringer. I had to bring in my buddy,

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Tune Master Tim, to finish out the show with

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me. But this comic from IDW, wowzers. Oh, boy.

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But first, the creative team for this. This whole

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series was written by Brandon Easton. You’ve

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probably heard his name before. I don’t have

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all of his credits in front of me. I actually

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just have the title, the creative page from the

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trade paperback in front of me. But he has written

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multiple other things. I believe he’s written

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some Transformers stuff. I’ll talk more about

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him later. In this trade for revolution, the

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art was done by Tony Vargas. The colors were

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done by Jordi Esquen. I’m sorry, Jordi, if I

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butchered your name. Letters were done by Chris

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Mowry. Tony Vargas basically did most of the

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art. Issue three was Juan Samu. Colors in the

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entire thing were done by Jordi. That’s awesome.

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Drew Moss did the art on issue 10, 6, 7, 8, 9,

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and 10. Mask. I had never read this. In the IDW

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publishing landscape, when it comes to the Hasbro

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stuff, I stuck with Transformers, and that’s

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all I had read. read gi joe when it crossed over

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with transformers i’ve read several gi joe trades

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and we’ve covered several of the gi joe trades

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on the podcast but i don’t know i just never

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got around to doing this until the next company

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that got the license was like hey guess what

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we’re gonna do this and i’m like oh crap well

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let’s go back in time uh so there are 12 issues

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in this trade. You got the one through 10 for

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the main series. We got the revolution one shot

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and the annual, uh, from 2017. Now I normally

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don’t do this. I am, I like it when it’s being

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used as a tool to accomplish a goal, but I loathe

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AI in general as a general thing. And you people

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are going to hear this way later, but today kind

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of proves my point. Somebody on the internet

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decided to put out a 44th anniversary Knight

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Rider Hot Wheels image. There is no 44th anniversary

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Knight Rider Hot Wheels thing. It’s not happening.

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There is no car coming out from Hot Wheels. celebrating

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the 44th anniversary of Knight Rider, they would

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never do that. They would just never do that.

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So that’s what I don’t like about artificial

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intelligence, is when people use it for misinformation.

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Now, if you’re going to use it as a tool and

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to do good things with it, fine, great. For the

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preparation of this record, because we weren’t

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sure if we were going to sit here for what we

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normally sit here for. My buddy Joe and I will

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sit here through this trade or any trade. Our

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Turtles coverage is two and a half to three hours

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long. And I know I can hear in my headphones

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Jesse rolling his eyes. Yes, his eye rolls are

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audible, folks. Trust me, I can hear it. I was

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actually laughing. Okay, well, same difference.

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You know, he’ll ask me, who listens to two and

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a half hour, three hour podcasts besides you?

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There is an art form to long form podcasting.

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And it just depends because for me personally,

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even if I wasn’t just a hermit homebody who hates

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leaving his house and doesn’t like interacting

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with people out in the room, I love going outside.

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I love going out and sitting on my little patio

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out here, or I love taking a walk or actually

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being out in nature. It’s just too people -y

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outside. I don’t like being around crowds. I

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don’t like being around people in general. Specific

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people, more than fine. Absolutely. But if you

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get me in a crowd, more than five people. including

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myself, I’m done. I it’s too much stimulation

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for me. So that’s why I don’t like that kind

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of stuff. But the long form podcast for me, it’s

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like, Oh, it’s a three hour tour. It’s a three

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hour podcast. I can listen to the foot like I

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can listen to the first hour now and I can take

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a break and come back to it later. Or I can find

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a good stopping point. Or if they have ad breaks.

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Or if they have whatever. It is what it is. But

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we are going to try to condense this as best

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we can. And in that vein, I did something that

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I never would normally do on any of my podcasts

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that I produce. Hell has frozen over. Yes, because

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I prefer… actual intelligence to artificial

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intelligence, but here we are. And even though

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this note says, I wanted to see what this would

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say or would come up with for this. And I said,

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I was not going to read this, but I am actually

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going to read this. The Google AI summary for

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this trade. It breaks down each section of the

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thing. So for the Revolution One -Shot summary

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origin and setup, Miles Mayhem runs Project Spectrum,

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a government -funded trading program using OR

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-13 technology derived from Cybertronian Transformers

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to create advanced masks, vehicles, the Tern

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Mayhem, a war -hardened soldier, yadda yadda

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yadda yadda yadda. Venom’s Creation, Mayhem Secretly

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Handpicks Trainees, Vanessa Warfield, Sly Rax,

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and Bruno Shepard. And then it breaks down Masks

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1 through 10, Issues 1 through 10, and the 2016

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-2017 run. And it breaks all of this down. Now,

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I’m clearly glossing over this, and one of your

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biggest fears in even doing this with me is…

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It’s going to spoil my entire Transformers run

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because it crosses over with Transformers and

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G .I. Joe. Where this is in that, I think there’s,

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I said this to you off air, I’ll say it to you

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on air. There’s enough here where there’s, like,

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you don’t, because there’s, it’s just the mask

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revolution one shot. i think you’ll be okay it’s

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not it’s so far flung in the past at this point

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and you haven’t gotten to that future yes go

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ahead so i’ve i did read the entire thing right

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last time i had not read the entire thing right

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between yesterday and today i was able to finish

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reading i was like halfway through i think when

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we talked last uh but yeah i was able to finish

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it so my Maybe when I was talking to you, I explained

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it wrong. I wasn’t worried about being spoiled

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with the IDW Transformers stuff. Because I think

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that stuff, where there’s robots in disguise

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and more than just the eye, that doesn’t play

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into this at all. I think what I had previously

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read… assuming this takes place around the

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same time, was an IDW series, and then I just

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quit reading it after a while. My concern was,

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and I didn’t really enjoy that, so that must

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have been, I think, the one that ties into this,

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maybe. My concern wasn’t being spoiled by the

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IDW stuff. My concern, again, I think I probably

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used the wrong terminology here. My concern was

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kind of being, because all of this is going to

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be within the shared universe, within the Energon

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universe. No! No, no, no. I know this isn’t.

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I’m saying all of the properties within the Energon

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universe, right? They’re all going to come together.

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And Mask is obviously going to play a part into

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that. My concern was that it’s going to give

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me these preconceived notions of what we’re going

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to see going into the Energon universe version

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of Mask. I got you. I got you. Okay, I get it.

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I get it. I didn’t want it to ruin that experience

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for me. No, I don’t think that’s good. No, see

00:15:47.299 –> 00:15:53.679
that. See, for me, like that never affects me

00:15:53.679 –> 00:15:59.480
because I understand that this is this writer,

00:15:59.559 –> 00:16:04.600
this creator’s version of it. And this is his,

00:16:04.740 –> 00:16:09.720
this is Brandon’s stamp on it. This is his story.

00:16:10.259 –> 00:16:14.840
Whatever Mr. Waters is going to create is going

00:16:14.840 –> 00:16:22.240
to be. his and skybound’s story with it and i

00:16:22.240 –> 00:16:27.480
don’t think they’re going to take too much from

00:16:27.480 –> 00:16:31.100
this i think they’re hoping that but i know i

00:16:31.100 –> 00:16:33.379
don’t know i don’t personally like with the crow

00:16:33.379 –> 00:16:36.639
for example like i’ve never read the comic but

00:16:36.639 –> 00:16:40.519
i love the first crow movie and it’s like like

00:16:40.519 –> 00:16:42.740
that’s that to me is like perfection in terms

00:16:42.740 –> 00:16:45.149
of that story Again, I have not read the comics,

00:16:45.169 –> 00:16:47.350
so maybe the comic is better. I don’t know, but

00:16:47.350 –> 00:16:49.429
I’ve only watched the movie. Right. And then

00:16:49.429 –> 00:16:52.350
I take that and I compare it with any other crow

00:16:52.350 –> 00:16:54.649
thing that comes out. Right. Including the new

00:16:54.649 –> 00:16:56.850
one that happened a couple of years ago. It’s

00:16:56.850 –> 00:16:59.409
like I’m taking that first thing because I enjoyed

00:16:59.409 –> 00:17:01.990
it so much and I compare everything else to it.

00:17:02.389 –> 00:17:04.289
Like that’s what I kind of didn’t want to do

00:17:04.289 –> 00:17:06.750
going into the Energon universe version of the

00:17:06.750 –> 00:17:09.109
mask where it’s like, if I enjoyed this. Yeah.

00:17:09.150 –> 00:17:11.980
Well, now I’m only going to be let down. by what

00:17:11.980 –> 00:17:13.759
I’m going to see in the Energon universe, or

00:17:13.759 –> 00:17:16.740
maybe it’ll be far superior to what I read here.

00:17:16.880 –> 00:17:18.880
Like that was my, my biggest concern. So now

00:17:18.880 –> 00:17:21.500
it’s like, am I going in sullied now? I don’t

00:17:21.500 –> 00:17:25.319
know because I, I don’t think so. Okay. I don’t

00:17:25.319 –> 00:17:30.940
think you are. I had highs and lows as this progressed.

00:17:32.220 –> 00:17:37.599
At first I didn’t like, so where I was coming

00:17:37.599 –> 00:17:41.049
from with this, Because I started reading it

00:17:41.049 –> 00:17:44.009
before free. I was late to free comic book day,

00:17:44.130 –> 00:17:47.009
which is why you find people don’t hear me on

00:17:47.009 –> 00:17:49.569
the free comic book day episode of another comic

00:17:49.569 –> 00:17:53.289
review. I was very late to that, unfortunately.

00:17:54.369 –> 00:17:58.769
But so where I come from with this is like, oh.

00:17:59.980 –> 00:18:03.799
I’m thinking animated series. I’m thinking 1985.

00:18:04.420 –> 00:18:08.200
I’m thinking I am not thinking Scott and T -Bob.

00:18:08.339 –> 00:18:12.440
Thank God. That stupid scooter and that damn

00:18:12.440 –> 00:18:17.299
kid are not in this. Thank God. Matt’s kid and

00:18:17.299 –> 00:18:21.579
his damn scooter are not in this. And I’ll show

00:18:21.579 –> 00:18:24.079
you. I’m sure you’ve seen videos of that. If

00:18:24.079 –> 00:18:27.470
you haven’t, I’ll show you later. It’s one of

00:18:27.470 –> 00:18:30.309
those things where I come from growing up with

00:18:30.309 –> 00:18:33.210
the cartoon. And because it’s an 80s cartoon,

00:18:33.529 –> 00:18:37.250
what do all 80s cartoons have? They have to have

00:18:37.250 –> 00:18:42.089
the sidekick. And every side, Transformers had

00:18:42.089 –> 00:18:48.549
Spike to a general, I guess, team -up thing.

00:18:48.690 –> 00:18:53.250
Bumblebee was Spike’s, or technically Spike was

00:18:53.250 –> 00:18:56.940
Bumblebee’s sidekick. You know, you have to have

00:18:56.940 –> 00:19:00.920
a sidekick. Thundercats had Snarf and other cartoons

00:19:00.920 –> 00:19:04.960
had whatever. Well, in Mask, Scott, who is Matt’s

00:19:04.960 –> 00:19:09.539
son, is the sidekick. And then Scott has his

00:19:09.539 –> 00:19:15.720
little scooter, T -Bob. And the most annoying

00:19:15.720 –> 00:19:22.500
thing about that show, even though we can curse

00:19:22.500 –> 00:19:27.410
on here, I just… decided to do that uh i just

00:19:27.410 –> 00:19:32.450
so that’s where i was coming from walking into

00:19:32.450 –> 00:19:36.170
any any anytime anyone says mask to me even though

00:19:36.170 –> 00:19:39.509
i love you know the the vehicle transformations

00:19:39.509 –> 00:19:42.849
i love the team assembly i love all that i love

00:19:42.849 –> 00:19:44.809
the music of the car or the original cartoon

00:19:44.809 –> 00:19:48.289
series so that’s where i was coming from and

00:19:48.289 –> 00:19:51.890
thank god scott ain’t here t -bob ain’t here

00:19:53.130 –> 00:19:57.049
But where also I was coming from is I was one

00:19:57.049 –> 00:20:01.349
of the only kids I knew. I had every single toy.

00:20:01.690 –> 00:20:05.069
I had the Boulder Hill play set. I had all the

00:20:05.069 –> 00:20:11.849
cars. I had Rhino. My Rhino didn’t explode. Spoilers,

00:20:11.849 –> 00:20:14.650
even though this book was published way back

00:20:14.650 –> 00:20:20.289
years and years ago at this point. So Rhino…

00:20:21.099 –> 00:20:25.799
I would say Rhino was my favorite. Not because

00:20:25.799 –> 00:20:28.880
it’s just kind of like a Optimus Prime knockoff,

00:20:28.920 –> 00:20:33.119
even though it isn’t. But that was my favorite.

00:20:33.220 –> 00:20:35.980
So as I was going through this, I was like, oh,

00:20:36.160 –> 00:20:41.400
wait, where’s Rhino? What’s going on? Why is

00:20:41.400 –> 00:20:46.440
the team different? And Julio Lopez? didn’t even

00:20:46.440 –> 00:20:48.980
remember Julio, like literally after we do the

00:20:48.980 –> 00:20:51.680
recording, not literally right after, but I’m

00:20:51.680 –> 00:20:53.579
going to have to go back and watch the first

00:20:53.579 –> 00:20:56.200
season of mask to remember Julio in the show.

00:20:56.240 –> 00:20:59.660
Because as I was reading this, I’m like, I don’t

00:20:59.660 –> 00:21:04.400
remember Julio at all. So yeah, that’s, that’s

00:21:04.400 –> 00:21:07.660
where I was coming from. And I knew how I operate.

00:21:07.779 –> 00:21:11.440
Like I was not going to let this, this, I view

00:21:11.440 –> 00:21:15.900
it as its own thing and whatever Dan. And Dan

00:21:15.900 –> 00:21:18.420
Waters, as the writer in the new series, and

00:21:18.420 –> 00:21:20.619
Pai Par as the artist, whatever they’re doing,

00:21:20.779 –> 00:21:23.420
whatever they’re doing and what they’ve told

00:21:23.420 –> 00:21:29.400
us so far, I’m so ready for that and just cannot

00:21:29.400 –> 00:21:34.019
wait. So whatever the Energon universe is doing

00:21:34.019 –> 00:21:40.759
right now, it’s doing it on all cylinders. But,

00:21:40.799 –> 00:21:44.200
yeah, getting into this, I don’t even know where

00:21:44.200 –> 00:21:46.400
we want to start. But, like, we already said,

00:21:46.460 –> 00:21:50.000
kind of, like, it’s your standard thing where

00:21:50.000 –> 00:21:55.980
Miles, you know, betrays Matt and ends up starting

00:21:55.980 –> 00:21:59.240
his own team. And it’s your standard. I don’t

00:21:59.240 –> 00:22:04.299
want to say standard, but it is. It’s the standard

00:22:04.299 –> 00:22:09.519
masks. Like, there cannot be any different way.

00:22:11.640 –> 00:22:16.200
That, apparently, that Venom and Mask and everything

00:22:16.200 –> 00:22:21.200
gets started. Like, apparently there just isn’t.

00:22:21.660 –> 00:22:24.180
That’s the formula. Go with the formula. It’s

00:22:24.180 –> 00:22:27.500
kind of like Cybertronians are from Cybertron.

00:22:27.880 –> 00:22:32.960
I can’t be from anywhere else. I guess, you know?

00:22:33.759 –> 00:22:43.099
Like, so, yeah. But no, as the, and I, I never

00:22:43.099 –> 00:22:45.480
got into the whole revolution and then first

00:22:45.480 –> 00:22:48.519
strike after that, I never got into the ID. Like

00:22:48.519 –> 00:22:51.660
when IDW started doing those crossovers, I was

00:22:51.660 –> 00:22:55.920
like, okay, I don’t even honestly remember reading

00:22:55.920 –> 00:23:00.019
any of the other revolution stuff. Yes. I can

00:23:00.019 –> 00:23:03.440
tell you my experience with mask. prior to this

00:23:03.440 –> 00:23:07.980
and my only experience with mask has been what

00:23:07.980 –> 00:23:11.000
we’ve seen inside of the energon universe so

00:23:11.000 –> 00:23:14.900
i was born in 81 so obviously a child through

00:23:14.900 –> 00:23:18.240
the 80s but i don’t recall i don’t recall anything

00:23:18.240 –> 00:23:21.980
about mask at all i did not read comics as a

00:23:21.980 –> 00:23:25.319
kid i mean not until the 90s i really only got

00:23:25.319 –> 00:23:27.799
into uh superman during the death of superman

00:23:27.799 –> 00:23:30.420
the death of rebirth of superman rather Death

00:23:30.420 –> 00:23:33.539
and Return of Superman. There we go. But yeah,

00:23:33.640 –> 00:23:35.460
I don’t remember any comics. I don’t remember

00:23:35.460 –> 00:23:39.460
the cartoon. It was just a cartoon as far as

00:23:39.460 –> 00:23:42.740
I remember. It was no comics in the 80s? No,

00:23:42.920 –> 00:23:47.119
no. I remember the toys insofar as I remember

00:23:47.119 –> 00:23:51.660
the ads for the toys. But I don’t recall ever

00:23:51.660 –> 00:23:54.539
seeing them in the store as a kid. like in the

00:23:54.539 –> 00:23:57.220
toy aisles like i just do not recall this at

00:23:57.220 –> 00:24:00.160
all which is odd because i was very much into

00:24:00.160 –> 00:24:02.619
transformers i was very much into knight rider

00:24:02.619 –> 00:24:04.700
it seems like this would be like right up my

00:24:04.700 –> 00:24:07.119
alley but i just did not get into it at all just

00:24:07.119 –> 00:24:11.819
passed me by completely oh man you’d love the

00:24:11.819 –> 00:24:15.420
toys so my only experience uh with mask like

00:24:15.420 –> 00:24:17.519
i said is what we’ve seen in the energon universe

00:24:17.519 –> 00:24:20.500
so far and then obviously reading the straight

00:24:20.500 –> 00:24:23.289
paperback here reading this yeah So what were

00:24:23.289 –> 00:24:26.630
your thoughts on this? Like, I really don’t want

00:24:26.630 –> 00:24:30.210
to have to say, I mean, I do a high level here.

00:24:30.269 –> 00:24:33.170
What are you looking for? Cause I can tell you

00:24:33.170 –> 00:24:38.950
high level. I hated it. Oh no. Absolutely hated

00:24:38.950 –> 00:24:42.150
it. And I think it’s unfair to say that. And

00:24:42.150 –> 00:24:44.759
I’m going to tell you why. okay go ahead the

00:24:44.759 –> 00:24:46.740
the trade that we have here right i’m looking

00:24:46.740 –> 00:24:48.700
at the i don’t know what page this is inside

00:24:48.700 –> 00:24:51.700
of the trade it’s uh page five i guess so 306

00:24:51.700 –> 00:24:54.319
according to the thing i’ve got here okay um

00:24:54.319 –> 00:24:57.140
it’s got uh it’s got everything listed out here

00:24:57.140 –> 00:25:01.039
right so there are uh 12 issues in here you you

00:25:01.039 –> 00:25:04.200
said revolution issue one two three four five

00:25:04.200 –> 00:25:08.880
annual 2017 then issues six through ten yep and

00:25:08.880 –> 00:25:14.529
uh as i was reading this It became clear, especially

00:25:14.529 –> 00:25:18.309
once we got to… There’s a point in the story,

00:25:18.470 –> 00:25:20.309
and I don’t remember which issue this is. This

00:25:20.309 –> 00:25:22.549
is about where I stopped the first time and said,

00:25:22.609 –> 00:25:23.910
I don’t know if I’m going to read the rest of

00:25:23.910 –> 00:25:27.069
this. So it’s probably issue five, issue six,

00:25:27.170 –> 00:25:28.529
or the annual. I don’t know. I don’t remember.

00:25:28.849 –> 00:25:31.650
But there’s effectively a spot in the story where

00:25:31.650 –> 00:25:36.589
we get to… The masked characters are now interacting

00:25:36.589 –> 00:25:39.690
with a couple of the G .I. Joe characters. Yep.

00:25:40.079 –> 00:25:42.339
right so there’s scarlet and i think there is

00:25:42.339 –> 00:25:47.859
an what’s the guy’s name is um oh i know who

00:25:47.859 –> 00:25:50.380
you’re what’s his name night uh night stalker

00:25:50.380 –> 00:25:53.299
night stalker i think so night stalker i think

00:25:53.299 –> 00:25:56.819
those are the only two joes we see yeah and i

00:25:56.819 –> 00:25:59.299
was like oh they’re talking about they don’t

00:25:59.299 –> 00:26:01.599
specifically say the word transformers but they’re

00:26:01.599 –> 00:26:04.400
talking about cybertronians Yeah, they specifically

00:26:04.400 –> 00:26:07.279
say Cybertronians, yeah. And we see the two Joe

00:26:07.279 –> 00:26:10.240
characters, and I’m like, oh man, this is where

00:26:10.240 –> 00:26:12.299
I was like, oh, this is going to spoil me, and

00:26:12.299 –> 00:26:14.420
again, not the story, but spoil me for enjoying

00:26:14.420 –> 00:26:17.640
Mask in the Energon universe, because eventually

00:26:17.640 –> 00:26:19.480
all those properties are going to come together,

00:26:19.660 –> 00:26:21.220
and I think we’re going to get that announcement

00:26:21.220 –> 00:26:26.650
at Comic -Con, by the way. But I feel like, like,

00:26:26.869 –> 00:26:28.630
all right, this is going to spoil my enjoyment

00:26:28.630 –> 00:26:30.349
of the Energon universe stuff. So I’m going to

00:26:30.349 –> 00:26:31.730
stop. And that’s where I told you I’m not going

00:26:31.730 –> 00:26:36.329
to read anymore. Yeah. Up to that point. I feel

00:26:36.329 –> 00:26:39.390
like the story was very cohesive. When we kick

00:26:39.390 –> 00:26:42.069
off with Revolution, based on my remembrance

00:26:42.069 –> 00:26:44.269
here, like I didn’t take notes here. Yeah. With

00:26:44.269 –> 00:26:47.230
my remembrance of this, I feel like it started

00:26:47.230 –> 00:26:49.710
the story off really well. And it actually started

00:26:49.710 –> 00:26:51.630
kind of in the future and then went backwards

00:26:51.630 –> 00:26:53.930
to kind of tell the story. Generally speaking,

00:26:54.190 –> 00:26:57.349
any time that’s used as like a storytelling device,

00:26:57.650 –> 00:27:00.990
I hate it, especially in TV shows. But it seemed

00:27:00.990 –> 00:27:04.289
to work okay here. One of the things they touched

00:27:04.289 –> 00:27:08.210
on where Matt was talking about, we’ll explain

00:27:08.210 –> 00:27:12.890
why like mask is, or sorry, why, Oh, what’s the

00:27:12.890 –> 00:27:16.269
case stand for a command? Like my command starts

00:27:16.269 –> 00:27:20.230
with the letter K. Well, yeah, I was looking

00:27:20.230 –> 00:27:23.829
for that and I saw it nowhere in the comic. It’s

00:27:23.829 –> 00:27:26.470
a joke. Yeah, it’s a joke. Okay. So that pissed

00:27:26.470 –> 00:27:28.710
me off, but it seemed like up until that point,

00:27:28.750 –> 00:27:32.099
like the story was very, It was very cohesive.

00:27:32.460 –> 00:27:36.400
It was easy to understand, easy to follow. And

00:27:36.400 –> 00:27:39.279
once we got past that point, I felt like the

00:27:39.279 –> 00:27:41.299
story was all over the place. That’s where it’s

00:27:41.299 –> 00:27:45.099
almost like I feel the story or this trade didn’t

00:27:45.099 –> 00:27:47.440
capture every bit of the story that it needed

00:27:47.440 –> 00:27:51.299
to for me to enjoy the entire thing. Because

00:27:51.299 –> 00:27:53.240
I didn’t realize going into this that this was

00:27:53.240 –> 00:27:56.019
a shared universe inside of IDW, which clearly

00:27:56.019 –> 00:27:58.539
it is, right? There’s GI Joe involved. Yeah,

00:27:58.539 –> 00:28:03.539
GI Joe. I feel like we’re missing out on some

00:28:03.539 –> 00:28:05.759
of the math stuff that occurred in those issues

00:28:05.759 –> 00:28:08.259
that we don’t have here. Like by the time we

00:28:08.259 –> 00:28:13.799
get to the end in Zartan shows up and this monster

00:28:13.799 –> 00:28:16.339
comes out of the, out of the earth, out of the

00:28:16.339 –> 00:28:19.059
mountain Mount St. Helen. Yeah. I’m like, what

00:28:19.059 –> 00:28:21.119
the hell is any of this? How does any of this

00:28:21.119 –> 00:28:23.059
have to do with anything I just read previously?

00:28:23.440 –> 00:28:25.440
It’s like, it just seems like totally out of

00:28:25.440 –> 00:28:28.819
the blue. I don’t know like where those plot

00:28:28.819 –> 00:28:31.440
points came from. or why they were highlighted

00:28:31.440 –> 00:28:33.519
here. Because if you read, like I said, if you

00:28:33.519 –> 00:28:35.859
read the first initial issues and then you read

00:28:35.859 –> 00:28:38.079
the end of this, it’s like, it seems like two

00:28:38.079 –> 00:28:40.900
completely different series, even though it’s

00:28:40.900 –> 00:28:43.759
written by the same person, which confused me.

00:28:43.799 –> 00:28:45.980
So the only thing I could, I could think of is

00:28:45.980 –> 00:28:48.599
there are pieces of this story that are missing

00:28:48.599 –> 00:28:50.779
because they’re in these other properties, which

00:28:50.779 –> 00:28:55.099
we don’t have here in this trade. Yeah, it’s

00:28:55.099 –> 00:29:00.950
yeah. And I, I don’t blame that on Mr. Easton.

00:29:01.190 –> 00:29:04.970
That’s not his fault. That’s IDW’s fault because

00:29:04.970 –> 00:29:12.769
clearly. Yeah. And like, so. I mean, the way

00:29:12.769 –> 00:29:15.970
this started was there right there down in, I

00:29:15.970 –> 00:29:18.329
think it’s Miami. Is that right? They’re down

00:29:18.329 –> 00:29:20.309
in Miami. Like that whole, if they would have

00:29:20.309 –> 00:29:22.589
just stayed there and like carried out whatever

00:29:22.589 –> 00:29:24.670
missions they’re doing, this would have been

00:29:24.670 –> 00:29:27.650
like it. completely awesome series like i would

00:29:27.650 –> 00:29:29.670
have i would have gone back and reread this numerous

00:29:29.670 –> 00:29:32.869
times because it almost felt like uh i don’t

00:29:32.869 –> 00:29:35.750
know like a modern day -ish like miami vice type

00:29:35.750 –> 00:29:38.069
thing where they’ve got this whole group of characters

00:29:38.069 –> 00:29:40.230
except in this case these characters have some

00:29:40.230 –> 00:29:43.769
semi quasi powers because of their masks and

00:29:43.769 –> 00:29:46.309
they’ve got these souped up uh souped up vehicles

00:29:46.309 –> 00:29:48.670
and everything but it was sort of like it was

00:29:48.670 –> 00:29:50.750
sort of like i’m gonna say quote -unquote based

00:29:50.750 –> 00:29:53.319
in reality even though it’s like reality with

00:29:53.319 –> 00:29:56.140
future sci -fi at least that made sense but by

00:29:56.140 –> 00:29:57.980
the time we got to the end and we got these monsters

00:29:57.980 –> 00:30:01.059
crawling out of the uh the earth and we’ve got

00:30:01.059 –> 00:30:03.440
all these zartan clones and i have i still have

00:30:03.440 –> 00:30:06.960
no idea what they are yeah that was like so off

00:30:06.960 –> 00:30:09.500
the wall it’s not even funny yeah that was a

00:30:09.500 –> 00:30:15.019
little like because literally so i was trying

00:30:15.019 –> 00:30:19.660
my best i am quote -unquote facebook friends

00:30:19.660 –> 00:30:25.289
with mr easton Uh, never have I reached out to

00:30:25.289 –> 00:30:29.950
the man up until preparation for this. I didn’t

00:30:29.950 –> 00:30:32.450
get any responses, which is fine. I understand

00:30:32.450 –> 00:30:34.470
the man’s busy. He doesn’t want to be bothered.

00:30:34.529 –> 00:30:39.109
That’s fine. But I genuinely asked him some genuine

00:30:39.109 –> 00:30:41.849
questions in order to prepare for this. And I

00:30:41.849 –> 00:30:44.670
made a comment. I was like, Oh, cool. Sean Berger.

00:30:45.369 –> 00:30:51.000
Cool. Nice. Love that reference. And then. yeah

00:30:51.000 –> 00:30:54.740
it went to hell and a hell in a hell basket like

00:30:54.740 –> 00:31:02.039
what the like okay the hat that took a to quote

00:31:02.039 –> 00:31:05.779
bugs it took a really sharp turn left turn in

00:31:05.779 –> 00:31:09.059
albuquerque because yikes dude i didn’t say this

00:31:09.059 –> 00:31:12.039
to him obviously but like yeah that was a little

00:31:12.039 –> 00:31:17.400
much and what gets me is that, yes, I know technically

00:31:17.400 –> 00:31:21.579
in a trade paperback, usually you have usually

00:31:21.579 –> 00:31:35.480
you have 12 issues in a trade. However, why is

00:31:35.480 –> 00:31:40.779
the first strike issue not in here? That’s what

00:31:40.779 –> 00:31:45.839
I want to know. Like, That would have made it

00:31:45.839 –> 00:31:49.519
so much… That would have been the missing piece,

00:31:49.740 –> 00:31:56.319
I think. Maybe. Because… I don’t know. At the

00:31:56.319 –> 00:32:01.599
end of this… Just to go straight… No, straight

00:32:01.599 –> 00:32:06.839
to the end. I don’t know. But going to the end

00:32:06.839 –> 00:32:11.859
of this trade… The one thing I like, the only

00:32:11.859 –> 00:32:15.480
thing I liked about the ending to this is Tracker

00:32:15.480 –> 00:32:18.900
saying, next time I’m going to do it smarter.

00:32:19.099 –> 00:32:21.400
I’m going to do it better. I’m going to build

00:32:21.400 –> 00:32:24.880
a better team or whatever it is that he says.

00:32:26.019 –> 00:32:30.559
Like, that’s the only thing I like. I didn’t

00:32:30.559 –> 00:32:32.819
like that either, because then it’s like, did.

00:32:33.559 –> 00:32:35.079
And this, I guess this is a question I’m asking

00:32:35.079 –> 00:32:37.200
you. I didn’t look this up prior. Like, does

00:32:37.200 –> 00:32:39.220
the story continue after this? Like, is there

00:32:39.220 –> 00:32:43.720
more? This is it. Like literally. So the trade,

00:32:43.759 –> 00:32:50.099
so the, the trade that I originally, so I wanted

00:32:50.099 –> 00:32:54.500
to find everything. And when I looked up, cause

00:32:54.500 –> 00:32:57.980
originally I looked it up on the TF wiki, which

00:32:57.980 –> 00:33:02.089
is what I’m on right now. And it originally was

00:33:02.089 –> 00:33:05.470
published in two volumes, which is the first

00:33:05.470 –> 00:33:09.849
five or six issues, and then the second half,

00:33:10.109 –> 00:33:13.349
whatever. And then they did a full, which is

00:33:13.349 –> 00:33:17.210
this version of the trade. And I thought, okay,

00:33:17.289 –> 00:33:19.130
that means they’re going to give us everything,

00:33:19.329 –> 00:33:22.210
right? Right? Thinking they were going to put

00:33:22.210 –> 00:33:26.220
the first strike issue in. They didn’t. which

00:33:26.220 –> 00:33:28.660
is fine. It’s their publishing company. They

00:33:28.660 –> 00:33:30.539
can do whatever the hell they want to as far

00:33:30.539 –> 00:33:35.940
as collected editions, whatever. But yeah, no,

00:33:36.099 –> 00:33:39.640
there is no more mask after this. It was, it

00:33:39.640 –> 00:33:43.180
was done. Cause I’m looking at mask force .com

00:33:43.180 –> 00:33:45.839
for example, and they have like the IDW stuff

00:33:45.839 –> 00:33:49.619
on here and they have IDW revolution zero zero,

00:33:49.720 –> 00:33:52.579
which is that what you’re talking about is this

00:33:52.579 –> 00:33:56.109
is like the prelude to, to the mass comic. Yeah,

00:33:56.230 –> 00:33:59.269
which… Revolution Prelude, sorry. Yeah, Revolution

00:33:59.269 –> 00:34:02.829
Prelude, which is in a remote military base,

00:34:02.890 –> 00:34:06.490
Miles Manheim observes Matt Tracker, Gloria Baker,

00:34:06.849 –> 00:34:10.389
Julio Lopez. That has to be this, right? Here,

00:34:10.469 –> 00:34:15.070
hold on, let me pull this up. Ooh! Technical

00:34:15.070 –> 00:34:18.369
difficulties. Let’s move on, shall we? Now back

00:34:18.369 –> 00:34:21.750
to Mask and Venom. Okay, so the trade that we

00:34:21.750 –> 00:34:24.409
have is Mask, Mobile Armored Strike Command,

00:34:24.670 –> 00:34:28.570
riding Venom’s trail. This was published in 2018.

00:34:29.710 –> 00:34:34.369
This is those two trades put together. All right,

00:34:34.389 –> 00:34:37.269
where are we? Where do we want to be? You were

00:34:37.269 –> 00:34:38.610
talking about the ending, and I was talking about

00:34:38.610 –> 00:34:43.550
how I didn’t like that either. Yeah, I… There’s

00:34:43.550 –> 00:34:45.710
a whole bunch of this comic that I do enjoy.

00:34:45.809 –> 00:34:49.369
Like I said, effectively the whole first half

00:34:49.369 –> 00:34:52.070
of this, I really enjoy. There are some very

00:34:52.070 –> 00:34:55.489
stupid moments in here. One of them, for example,

00:34:55.690 –> 00:35:04.550
is Matt is attacking Miles. And just for no reason

00:35:04.550 –> 00:35:07.969
at all, all of a sudden, and I realize after

00:35:07.969 –> 00:35:10.130
the fact that, I mean, they explain this, it

00:35:10.130 –> 00:35:14.730
ends up being a hologram. yes but his mom just

00:35:14.730 –> 00:35:18.309
shows up for no reason at all yeah yeah that

00:35:18.309 –> 00:35:22.690
was it’s like what how does that even make sense

00:35:22.690 –> 00:35:27.889
in any uh in any part of this story in any way

00:35:27.889 –> 00:35:31.030
at all it doesn’t so it’s like i i don’t know

00:35:31.030 –> 00:35:35.530
that was a little yeah some of the it’s not i

00:35:35.530 –> 00:35:37.690
don’t even think it’s jumps in logic i think

00:35:37.690 –> 00:35:41.159
it’s the way that I don’t think it’s the way

00:35:41.159 –> 00:35:43.079
that we’re even reading it. I just think it’s

00:35:43.079 –> 00:35:50.079
the way that it’s… Oh, no, man. When I read

00:35:50.079 –> 00:35:53.559
this, and I’ve only read it once, I skimmed through

00:35:53.559 –> 00:35:58.679
it before the record just to do a refresher.

00:35:58.940 –> 00:36:09.429
I enjoyed… I want to say… 70 -30? I enjoyed

00:36:09.429 –> 00:36:13.170
it 70 % of the time, and I had problems with

00:36:13.170 –> 00:36:18.750
it 30 % of the time. For this being, I want to

00:36:18.750 –> 00:36:22.090
say, the first time I’ve read Brandon Easton

00:36:22.090 –> 00:36:26.670
as a comic book writer, I liked it for the most

00:36:26.670 –> 00:36:31.449
part. But there are still things in here where

00:36:31.449 –> 00:36:35.039
it’s like, yeah, I don’t know. I think for me,

00:36:35.059 –> 00:36:38.380
what I want to know more and see more with his

00:36:38.380 –> 00:36:41.719
writing is that I want to see more about the

00:36:41.719 –> 00:36:45.920
people as they’re dealing with their masks and

00:36:45.920 –> 00:36:51.059
their vehicles. I’m stuck on the rhino thing,

00:36:51.239 –> 00:36:57.480
the rhino telemetry and telepathy and how you

00:36:57.480 –> 00:37:00.659
have to have two, but one can also do it, kind

00:37:00.659 –> 00:37:04.179
of, sort of, but not really. How dare you blow

00:37:04.179 –> 00:37:07.980
up my favorite truck in mask history and blah,

00:37:08.039 –> 00:37:15.380
blah, blah. Because, yeah. But, I mean, yeah,

00:37:15.420 –> 00:37:19.500
no. I liked it overall for the most part. It’s

00:37:19.500 –> 00:37:23.840
not a comic I’m going to read again. It’s not

00:37:23.840 –> 00:37:27.400
a reread for me. But having the experience now.

00:37:29.099 –> 00:37:31.239
It makes me want to, like I said at the beginning

00:37:31.239 –> 00:37:32.980
of the podcast, it makes me want to go back and

00:37:32.980 –> 00:37:37.199
watch the old episodes of the cartoon. I mean,

00:37:38.360 –> 00:37:41.039
I already had hype for the Energon Universe version.

00:37:41.079 –> 00:37:43.820
It makes me even more interested to see what

00:37:43.820 –> 00:37:50.440
Dan Waters is going to do with the Energon Universe

00:37:50.440 –> 00:37:53.199
version and the multiple interviews I’ve heard

00:37:53.199 –> 00:37:57.639
from him. Along with Piper and just hearing how

00:37:57.639 –> 00:38:01.239
excited they are about the Energon universe version

00:38:01.239 –> 00:38:06.619
of mask. I’m very excited to see what they do.

00:38:07.079 –> 00:38:09.900
Well, I think, I think I’m probably, you said

00:38:09.900 –> 00:38:12.239
you’re about 70, 30. I think I’m about 50, 50.

00:38:13.039 –> 00:38:16.179
And again, if we break it down, like first half

00:38:16.179 –> 00:38:20.539
of this, and it’s probably where the 50, 50 is

00:38:20.539 –> 00:38:23.000
going to come into play. I feel like once we

00:38:23.000 –> 00:38:26.869
hit the midway point, uh i mean even even before

00:38:26.869 –> 00:38:29.329
we hit the midway point um well no i take that

00:38:29.329 –> 00:38:31.349
back let me let me go to the very front here

00:38:31.349 –> 00:38:34.610
uh yeah so once we hit the midway point we effectively

00:38:34.610 –> 00:38:38.670
switch uh artists as well right yeah we don’t

00:38:38.670 –> 00:38:41.849
get tony vargas anymore uh he does uh revolution

00:38:41.849 –> 00:38:46.280
issue one two four and five he bails out for

00:38:46.280 –> 00:38:48.840
issue three for some reason but we get him effectively

00:38:48.840 –> 00:38:52.219
for the first entire half and i love the artwork

00:38:52.219 –> 00:38:54.760
the artwork when he was doing it was fantastic

00:38:54.760 –> 00:38:59.000
i thought uh later in the the the rest of this

00:38:59.000 –> 00:39:02.639
book i would say it’s a mixed bag but the first

00:39:02.639 –> 00:39:04.780
half of this book i really really enjoyed the

00:39:04.780 –> 00:39:08.239
art i think as far as the writing goes this is

00:39:08.239 –> 00:39:12.559
like when you compare with what easton does versus

00:39:12.559 –> 00:39:15.460
with Again, I’ve only read his stuff inside the

00:39:15.460 –> 00:39:17.699
Energon universe. When you compare it with what

00:39:17.699 –> 00:39:20.219
Kirkman has been doing, I think it’s like night

00:39:20.219 –> 00:39:23.659
and day difference. When you open this up, there’s

00:39:23.659 –> 00:39:28.780
just so much text on each page. The art is doing

00:39:28.780 –> 00:39:31.480
a great job at visually storytelling, but then

00:39:31.480 –> 00:39:34.519
there’s a lot of spoken word happening here as

00:39:34.519 –> 00:39:37.679
well. When you compare it with stuff that Kirkman

00:39:37.679 –> 00:39:41.119
does, that’s not really the case. I guess I would

00:39:41.119 –> 00:39:44.579
even say most of the energon universe comics

00:39:44.579 –> 00:39:46.739
right there’s not a whole lot that’s going on

00:39:46.739 –> 00:39:50.159
in these word bowls no and what is there right

00:39:50.159 –> 00:39:54.280
there isn’t a whole lot of word bubbles to see

00:39:54.280 –> 00:39:56.619
it packed on here it’s not as packed as what

00:39:56.619 –> 00:39:59.260
it is with like more than meets the eye and robots

00:39:59.260 –> 00:40:04.320
in disguise okay but okay okay okay hang on really

00:40:04.320 –> 00:40:09.900
different people hang on a second here robots

00:40:09.900 –> 00:40:14.039
in disguise are more than meets the eye are essentially

00:40:14.039 –> 00:40:19.659
you said novels right they’re they’re like novels

00:40:19.659 –> 00:40:26.500
slash stage plays with visual accents around

00:40:26.500 –> 00:40:31.159
them all right i mean that’s that’s fair but

00:40:31.159 –> 00:40:32.980
here like i’m saying like there’s a lot of text

00:40:32.980 –> 00:40:34.780
on here which i think is good because there’s

00:40:34.780 –> 00:40:37.260
a lot of story here on these pages it’s just

00:40:37.260 –> 00:40:39.920
once we hit that midway mark i don’t know what

00:40:39.920 –> 00:40:43.489
the hell happens But in my opinion, the story

00:40:43.489 –> 00:40:45.670
just goes completely off the rails. And I had

00:40:45.670 –> 00:40:48.070
a hard time following it. That’s where it’s like,

00:40:48.150 –> 00:40:51.150
I don’t know if other mask pieces were introduced

00:40:51.150 –> 00:40:54.349
in G .I. Joe inside of Transformers. And it’s

00:40:54.349 –> 00:40:56.789
just not included here. Again, I don’t know that

00:40:56.789 –> 00:40:59.130
it’s the fault of the writing. As you mentioned,

00:40:59.230 –> 00:41:02.730
it’s the fault of IDW for not including those

00:41:02.730 –> 00:41:04.829
bits here because we’re losing out on part of

00:41:04.829 –> 00:41:07.769
the story. And because of that, it’s hard to

00:41:07.769 –> 00:41:09.769
understand what’s going on. But I think the first

00:41:09.769 –> 00:41:12.780
half. It’s very easy for me to follow. And then,

00:41:12.800 –> 00:41:14.500
like I said, I don’t know if they started having

00:41:14.500 –> 00:41:16.639
more crossover when the second half happened

00:41:16.639 –> 00:41:19.440
here, but for me personally, I had a hard time

00:41:19.440 –> 00:41:22.300
following the story. Yeah. A couple of other

00:41:22.300 –> 00:41:25.340
things that I disliked throughout this. I don’t,

00:41:25.340 –> 00:41:27.099
I don’t know that I get a sense from reading

00:41:27.099 –> 00:41:29.380
this, which is funny because this was the introduction

00:41:29.380 –> 00:41:34.539
of mask, like why we have these masks at all.

00:41:35.050 –> 00:41:37.869
Why we have these vehicles at all. Like, why

00:41:37.869 –> 00:41:41.570
are they a thing? Why did miles mayhem put this

00:41:41.570 –> 00:41:44.150
team together only to say, Oh my bad. I’m out.

00:41:44.250 –> 00:41:46.469
Peace out. And I’m putting together my own group.

00:41:46.530 –> 00:41:48.389
It’s like, but you were just putting together

00:41:48.389 –> 00:41:50.590
the mass group. Now you’re leaving it and you’re

00:41:50.590 –> 00:41:53.210
putting together the venom group. I didn’t understand

00:41:53.210 –> 00:41:57.449
why that happened. Okay. But that’s the thing

00:41:57.449 –> 00:42:04.789
though. He, let me try to, it’s, Following formula

00:42:04.789 –> 00:42:12.530
from the show, he’s essentially traitoring. He’s…

00:42:12.530 –> 00:42:17.190
Give me a valid reason as to why you’re doing

00:42:17.190 –> 00:42:18.809
it. Like, that’s not even stated here. I get

00:42:18.809 –> 00:42:21.309
it that, right, this is like a throwback to,

00:42:21.369 –> 00:42:23.869
oh, a good versus bad. We need a good guy and

00:42:23.869 –> 00:42:26.429
a bad guy version of this. But, like, it’s not

00:42:26.429 –> 00:42:28.570
explained why he just, like, gives up the mask

00:42:28.570 –> 00:42:30.510
group and is like, ha ha ha, I’m going off to

00:42:30.510 –> 00:42:34.730
make Venom. It just sort of happens. And like,

00:42:34.789 –> 00:42:37.110
I didn’t, I didn’t follow that. Like at least

00:42:37.110 –> 00:42:38.929
within the Energon universe that we’ve seen so

00:42:38.929 –> 00:42:42.710
far, like we see, we haven’t seen miles really

00:42:42.710 –> 00:42:45.170
do anything with the mass. I still don’t understand.

00:42:45.190 –> 00:42:47.670
Again, I have no background on mask. I don’t

00:42:47.670 –> 00:42:50.429
know why these masks are created. I don’t know

00:42:50.429 –> 00:42:53.710
why they have to tie in with the vehicles. I

00:42:53.710 –> 00:42:55.250
don’t, I don’t understand any of that. There’s

00:42:55.250 –> 00:42:57.349
no background, no backstory at any of that here.

00:42:58.510 –> 00:43:01.360
I’m hoping. in the energon universe we get some

00:43:01.360 –> 00:43:03.760
of that but here in idw from what we’ve read

00:43:03.760 –> 00:43:06.219
in the here i’ve not seen any of that now maybe

00:43:06.219 –> 00:43:08.880
i should have come into this knowing about mask

00:43:08.880 –> 00:43:11.679
but if this is my first introduction and i don’t

00:43:11.679 –> 00:43:13.760
know any of it it seems like it should be in

00:43:13.760 –> 00:43:19.280
the story yeah but again every everybody’s good

00:43:19.280 –> 00:43:21.280
with what you’ve got pulled up here right now

00:43:21.849 –> 00:43:24.309
I have no idea what the hell this has to do with

00:43:24.309 –> 00:43:26.809
the story at all. I’m like, are we looking at

00:43:26.809 –> 00:43:29.690
street fighter characters here? Like what? Sorry.

00:43:30.070 –> 00:43:34.170
I forgot. I had the screen share still on. Sorry.

00:43:34.590 –> 00:43:37.369
Let me turn that off. No, I mean, that’s fine.

00:43:37.469 –> 00:43:39.230
Like I was, I was reading that. I was trying

00:43:39.230 –> 00:43:44.719
to. I’m trying to find the annual in the thing

00:43:44.719 –> 00:43:48.599
because I wanted to discuss the annual at some

00:43:48.599 –> 00:43:51.619
point. I effectively just read through that portion

00:43:51.619 –> 00:43:54.059
and I just kind of skipped the rest of it because

00:43:54.059 –> 00:43:57.300
I’m like, I have no idea how this has any merit

00:43:57.300 –> 00:43:59.880
to what I’m reading. So it looks like Street

00:43:59.880 –> 00:44:03.119
Fighter. I’m just going to go on by it. There

00:44:03.119 –> 00:44:05.519
we go. No, no, no. Sorry, sorry, sorry. I forgot

00:44:05.519 –> 00:44:09.969
I had the screen share still on. No, I… But

00:44:09.969 –> 00:44:11.489
no, you’re right. But here’s the thing, though.

00:44:12.130 –> 00:44:18.269
One of the things I love in podcasting is I have

00:44:18.269 –> 00:44:21.329
most of the history with Mask. Like I said, grew

00:44:21.329 –> 00:44:24.130
up with the cartoon, had the toys, yada, yada,

00:44:24.130 –> 00:44:26.409
yada. You don’t have any of that history. So

00:44:26.409 –> 00:44:29.889
you’re just walking into this kind of cold. I

00:44:29.889 –> 00:44:32.389
started you out with this to not necessarily

00:44:32.389 –> 00:44:37.829
get you into what we have coming over on. the

00:44:37.829 –> 00:44:39.989
other show with another comic review with the

00:44:39.989 –> 00:44:43.309
Energon universe, but to just kind of, you know,

00:44:43.309 –> 00:44:47.670
see what the previous comic company did with

00:44:47.670 –> 00:44:52.170
the license kind of thing, because I, this is

00:44:52.170 –> 00:44:54.469
my first time ever reading this, even though

00:44:54.469 –> 00:44:57.650
I knew the cartoon and I was already excited.

00:44:57.710 –> 00:44:59.250
Like I said, I’ve already said multiple times

00:44:59.250 –> 00:45:04.409
in this, I was already excited for, for it. There’s

00:45:04.409 –> 00:45:07.550
that end point. That’s what I was looking for.

00:45:08.210 –> 00:45:14.070
But it’s one of those things where I just wanted

00:45:14.070 –> 00:45:17.389
to, like, there’s nothing wrong with somebody,

00:45:17.530 –> 00:45:21.070
something being somebody’s first time for whatever.

00:45:21.250 –> 00:45:25.429
That’s how, like, that’s how the world goes around.

00:45:25.690 –> 00:45:28.190
Everybody has to have a first at some point or

00:45:28.190 –> 00:45:33.750
another. And, you know, I understand you’re worried

00:45:33.750 –> 00:45:38.260
about. having this be the first mask thing, even

00:45:38.260 –> 00:45:40.119
though technically it isn’t the Energon universe

00:45:40.119 –> 00:45:42.500
was because of free comic book day, but like

00:45:42.500 –> 00:45:45.420
reading this versus reading that, I don’t think

00:45:45.420 –> 00:45:48.460
this is going to affect what you read in the

00:45:48.460 –> 00:45:51.460
Energon universe. Cause this is, thankfully they

00:45:51.460 –> 00:45:53.840
didn’t go on to make, I mean, as much as I would

00:45:53.840 –> 00:45:56.880
have been interested to read the story, this

00:45:56.880 –> 00:46:03.639
is the only mask we have. Um, so. you know, for,

00:46:03.840 –> 00:46:11.139
for IDW. And I just needed to get more mask in

00:46:11.139 –> 00:46:14.340
my life. And since it last year was the 80th,

00:46:14.340 –> 00:46:18.920
the 80th, wow. 40th anniversary last year. And

00:46:18.920 –> 00:46:22.400
we’ve got this coming up and all this and all

00:46:22.400 –> 00:46:25.239
that. I wanted to get this, uh, an episode for

00:46:25.239 –> 00:46:29.980
the IDW book, uh, in the books as it were, but

00:46:29.980 –> 00:46:35.309
no, what I was looking for. As you were alluding

00:46:35.309 –> 00:46:39.309
to, I was looking for the story in the 2017 annual

00:46:39.309 –> 00:46:44.510
because the 2017 annual has two stories. It has

00:46:44.510 –> 00:46:51.590
the Death Stone, which is a title reference to

00:46:51.590 –> 00:46:57.050
the very first episode of Mask, and it has Child’s

00:46:57.050 –> 00:47:01.809
Play. Child’s Play, which I thought was Sly’s

00:47:01.809 –> 00:47:06.369
origin, it’s not. It’s Cliff Dagger’s origin.

00:47:09.099 –> 00:47:11.940
As he’s pummeled by an opponent, undefeated champion

00:47:11.940 –> 00:47:16.420
Body Bags, rising MMA star Cliff Dagger has a

00:47:16.420 –> 00:47:18.960
flashback to his childhood, remembering when

00:47:18.960 –> 00:47:22.880
he was awoken late one night and beaten by his

00:47:22.880 –> 00:47:25.820
drunken father after he learned that Cliff hadn’t

00:47:25.820 –> 00:47:29.159
fought back against a bully at school. And I

00:47:29.159 –> 00:47:31.440
wanted to discuss this because, first of all,

00:47:31.440 –> 00:47:37.360
folks, bullying is not uh -uh. Nope. Just uh

00:47:37.360 –> 00:47:40.469
-uh. Don’t even do that. I was bullied as a kid

00:47:40.469 –> 00:47:43.409
myself. So bullying must be stopped no matter

00:47:43.409 –> 00:47:47.030
the cost. But I love that they, in the annual,

00:47:47.190 –> 00:47:51.949
they chose to highlight a story like this. And

00:47:51.949 –> 00:47:54.750
I thought that story was, you know, a story for

00:47:54.750 –> 00:47:59.690
standing up for yourself and just do whatever

00:47:59.690 –> 00:48:02.329
you can to stand up for yourself. And that Cliff

00:48:02.329 –> 00:48:05.949
Dagger would eventually go on to become… part

00:48:05.949 –> 00:48:09.429
of Venom’s team and just the way they use the

00:48:09.429 –> 00:48:14.429
character. I thought it was so good. So I, I

00:48:14.429 –> 00:48:17.289
just love that, that, that part of the annual,

00:48:17.449 –> 00:48:22.409
um, the other story is just your standard kind

00:48:22.409 –> 00:48:28.389
of mask story. It’s not, uh, I don’t know. It’s

00:48:28.389 –> 00:48:31.269
just your standard mask story. It’s a way of

00:48:31.269 –> 00:48:35.059
homaging the, debut of the animated series 41

00:48:35.059 –> 00:48:44.780
years ago. Who is your least favorite character

00:48:44.780 –> 00:48:48.519
in all of this? Because I think mine, I think

00:48:48.519 –> 00:48:55.019
mine ended up being Matt tracker. I don’t like

00:48:55.019 –> 00:48:59.300
the characters constantly. I mean, miles specifically

00:48:59.300 –> 00:49:03.559
is like constantly saying like, uh he’s effectively

00:49:03.559 –> 00:49:05.940
like running him down right it’s he’s like you

00:49:05.940 –> 00:49:08.860
don’t have what it takes to be a leader uh he

00:49:08.860 –> 00:49:10.780
calls him out all these numerous times and then

00:49:10.780 –> 00:49:13.139
by the end of the book his own teammates are

00:49:13.139 –> 00:49:14.980
saying the same thing and right and then he even

00:49:14.980 –> 00:49:19.539
walks away from the team It’s very much like

00:49:19.539 –> 00:49:21.619
a struggle of trying to be the leader, right?

00:49:21.659 –> 00:49:24.500
Kind of what we see in Transformers Season 3

00:49:24.500 –> 00:49:29.679
with Rodimus Prime. Wait a minute. Hold on. Full

00:49:29.679 –> 00:49:32.000
dead stop. You are not going to sit here and

00:49:32.000 –> 00:49:34.300
compare Matt Tracker to Rodimus Prime. We’re

00:49:34.300 –> 00:49:39.199
in big trouble. Relax! Enjoy the ride! He’s very,

00:49:39.280 –> 00:49:44.420
very similar, yeah. Stop it! I’m not going to

00:49:44.420 –> 00:49:47.119
learn from any of this. with my current team,

00:49:47.159 –> 00:49:49.380
right? Like, why try to improve myself? I’m just

00:49:49.380 –> 00:49:51.599
going to walk off, and I’m going to start a new

00:49:51.599 –> 00:49:54.559
team. It’s like, okay. Again, I know the story

00:49:54.559 –> 00:49:56.440
ends there, but it’s like, if that’s effectively

00:49:56.440 –> 00:50:00.360
what happens, that’s pretty terrible as a leader.

00:50:00.960 –> 00:50:03.380
Yeah, Rodimus never did that, though, thankfully.

00:50:04.039 –> 00:50:06.320
So at least Rodimus is better than Matt in that

00:50:06.320 –> 00:50:10.039
one aspect. Last big party of the summer, folks!

00:50:10.300 –> 00:50:14.659
Let’s go out with a bang! Yeah, I would not say

00:50:14.659 –> 00:50:24.519
that I like Matt in this. I like Sly, and I like

00:50:24.519 –> 00:50:28.260
Brad. Brad’s always been a cool character to

00:50:28.260 –> 00:50:36.059
me. So that’s one from each side. What about

00:50:36.059 –> 00:50:40.619
you? In terms of a character I liked or didn’t

00:50:40.619 –> 00:50:46.829
like? Yeah, I liked. so i think and i got a thing

00:50:46.829 –> 00:50:48.869
i’m going to talk about why but i also didn’t

00:50:48.869 –> 00:50:51.570
like about this but i think i liked gloria the

00:50:51.570 –> 00:50:56.869
most okay uh i think i think just her interaction

00:50:56.869 –> 00:51:00.010
with matt not just from like the love affair

00:51:00.010 –> 00:51:03.110
aspect of it but um like she’s the one who calls

00:51:03.110 –> 00:51:05.809
him out at by the end of this thing yeah although

00:51:05.809 –> 00:51:09.409
she does kind of like turn turn back on that

00:51:09.409 –> 00:51:12.230
and like hugs him here at the end because effectively

00:51:12.230 –> 00:51:15.769
didn’t die. But, um, I think her interaction

00:51:15.769 –> 00:51:21.090
with Matt and trying to get him to, I don’t know,

00:51:21.150 –> 00:51:25.389
uh, be a better leader, I think was, was good

00:51:25.389 –> 00:51:28.690
to see the, the part that I didn’t like about

00:51:28.690 –> 00:51:34.530
this character. And this is no, uh, this is not

00:51:34.530 –> 00:51:37.010
a negative thing on the writing. This is more

00:51:37.010 –> 00:51:40.750
on the artist. She’s drawn very salaciously in

00:51:40.750 –> 00:51:43.110
the first half here, so I can only imagine it’s

00:51:43.110 –> 00:51:48.190
because of our artist here. What’s his name?

00:51:48.590 –> 00:51:54.630
Because of our artist, Tony. Tony Vargas, I think?

00:51:54.929 –> 00:52:01.670
Yeah. I just kept seeing page after page. I’m

00:52:01.670 –> 00:52:04.969
like, okay, this is definitely drawn for the

00:52:04.969 –> 00:52:10.579
horny teenage boy. because it was like one page

00:52:10.579 –> 00:52:13.099
after the next was like, it was just getting

00:52:13.099 –> 00:52:17.420
worse and worse. Maybe you could say the same

00:52:17.420 –> 00:52:21.940
thing about Vanessa as well, but I think we see

00:52:21.940 –> 00:52:25.119
it more with Gloria, because we effectively see

00:52:25.119 –> 00:52:29.099
more of Gloria. Yeah, that’s true. I’d like to

00:52:29.099 –> 00:52:33.690
see more of Vanessa, actually. But that goes

00:52:33.690 –> 00:52:44.429
back to my childhood. Okay. On the GCRN universal

00:52:44.429 –> 00:52:48.670
ratings scale, the geek meter, we rate zero to

00:52:48.670 –> 00:52:50.650
five with half points. What are you going to

00:52:50.650 –> 00:52:56.929
give? What the hell is this thing called? Oh,

00:52:56.929 –> 00:53:01.130
God. Matt, the mask trade all in one, what are

00:53:01.130 –> 00:53:02.769
you going to give it? Zero to five with half

00:53:02.769 –> 00:53:08.909
points. So again, I think I enjoyed the first

00:53:08.909 –> 00:53:11.929
half of this story. I enjoyed the art and the

00:53:11.929 –> 00:53:14.610
first half of this story. I think the writing

00:53:14.610 –> 00:53:18.789
throughout was good, regardless of the fact that

00:53:18.789 –> 00:53:20.449
I didn’t really like the second half of this

00:53:20.449 –> 00:53:22.369
story, because again, I think we’re missing parts

00:53:22.369 –> 00:53:25.150
of the story. So it didn’t, the story didn’t

00:53:25.150 –> 00:53:28.699
make any sense to me. Or the writer was told,

00:53:28.820 –> 00:53:32.659
hey, we’re going this direction now. Ignore everything

00:53:32.659 –> 00:53:35.400
you did previously. Because again, I think if

00:53:35.400 –> 00:53:37.119
you read the first half of this and the second

00:53:37.119 –> 00:53:39.579
half of this, they do not mesh together story

00:53:39.579 –> 00:53:42.619
-wise at all. It just feels like it almost feels

00:53:42.619 –> 00:53:45.289
like a different writer. Yeah. But I know that

00:53:45.289 –> 00:53:47.110
it’s not. So it’s like, there was a change of

00:53:47.110 –> 00:53:49.269
direction or something there. It’s like, we got

00:53:49.269 –> 00:53:52.469
to work in this story, these story beats because

00:53:52.469 –> 00:53:55.469
of the overall grander story inside of this universe

00:53:55.469 –> 00:53:57.710
of IDW. I don’t know. Cause again, I didn’t read

00:53:57.710 –> 00:54:01.789
IDW. Uh, but with that said, I, I would probably

00:54:01.789 –> 00:54:05.110
give it a three and a half out of five. Yeah.

00:54:05.789 –> 00:54:07.630
Again, I know I said I liked it. It was probably

00:54:07.630 –> 00:54:09.309
about 50, 50, but I think probably three and

00:54:09.309 –> 00:54:13.739
a half out of five. Yeah. I’m. I’m right there

00:54:13.739 –> 00:54:17.820
with you. I think it’s like I said, it’s, I like

00:54:17.820 –> 00:54:23.900
70, 30. There’s like minor nitpick type things.

00:54:24.039 –> 00:54:28.460
And for those that may need a reminder on what

00:54:28.460 –> 00:54:33.210
three and a half. Is on the Geek Meter for GCRN

00:54:33.210 –> 00:54:36.869
rating scale. It is good. It’s a mixed bag, but

00:54:36.869 –> 00:54:39.869
the good stuff outweighs the bad. There might

00:54:39.869 –> 00:54:44.570
be one amazing element or lots of fun moments

00:54:44.570 –> 00:54:48.650
that make the flaws easier to swallow. They are

00:54:48.650 –> 00:54:52.289
not deal breakers, but they do hold it back.

00:54:53.610 –> 00:54:56.449
Well, maybe I’ll dump it down to a three. Okay.

00:54:56.550 –> 00:54:58.889
Three and a half is there. Three is average.

00:54:59.909 –> 00:55:03.690
It’s not bad. It’s not amazing either. For me,

00:55:03.710 –> 00:55:06.269
it would be an easy four if the second half of

00:55:06.269 –> 00:55:09.329
this story matched the first half. Yeah. Like

00:55:09.329 –> 00:55:14.030
I said earlier, that 30 % for me is basically

00:55:14.030 –> 00:55:18.909
Sean Berger turns into a giant. whatever the

00:55:18.909 –> 00:55:22.769
hell that was weird as hell that and then like

00:55:22.769 –> 00:55:25.750
you said the zartan shows up and zartan’s clones

00:55:25.750 –> 00:55:28.230
and all of this and it’s like and i don’t the

00:55:28.230 –> 00:55:32.630
clones yeah and i don’t mind like mask and gi

00:55:32.630 –> 00:55:36.750
joe working together hand in hand or foot and

00:55:36.750 –> 00:55:39.920
foot or Vehicle in vehicle, that’s fine. I actually

00:55:39.920 –> 00:55:43.679
loved Scarlet working with Mask. That was cool

00:55:43.679 –> 00:55:47.599
as hell to me. That was part of my 70 % was seeing

00:55:47.599 –> 00:55:51.639
Scarlet with them because I’m like, ooh, I can

00:55:51.639 –> 00:55:55.480
now see Kelly Thompson writing a new Scarlet

00:55:55.480 –> 00:55:59.659
miniseries featuring Scarlet and Gloria against

00:55:59.659 –> 00:56:05.519
Vanessa and somebody. Oh, God. Scarlet and Gloria

00:56:05.519 –> 00:56:09.820
versus Vanessa and Baroness. Mask Gia. Oh, God,

00:56:09.960 –> 00:56:13.519
Kelly. Kelly Thompson, I can hear it in my head.

00:56:14.280 –> 00:56:21.000
I know it’ll never happen. Anyway, you’re giving

00:56:21.000 –> 00:56:23.760
it a three. I’m giving it a three and a half.

00:56:23.960 –> 00:56:27.239
Like I said, my 70 % kind of outweighs my 30

00:56:27.239 –> 00:56:31.659
% of the bad stuff. I still enjoyed it overall.

00:56:32.969 –> 00:56:35.610
Anytime I can walk away from reading a comic

00:56:35.610 –> 00:56:40.409
feeling good and not feeling like, Oh my God,

00:56:40.469 –> 00:56:44.469
why did I read that? That’s a, that’s a good

00:56:44.469 –> 00:56:48.050
comic reading adventure for me. Yeah. It was

00:56:48.050 –> 00:56:50.190
more along the lines of what did I just read?

00:56:50.309 –> 00:56:53.849
Yeah. Why did I read this? Yeah, exactly. But

00:56:53.849 –> 00:56:56.429
again, that’s the second half. The first half

00:56:56.429 –> 00:57:02.920
I think is certainly more, uh, more on par with

00:57:02.920 –> 00:57:05.579
what i would be interested in story -wise for

00:57:05.579 –> 00:57:09.960
like an ongoing comic less of the the sci -fi

00:57:09.960 –> 00:57:13.000
stuff we get here at the end which again doesn’t

00:57:13.000 –> 00:57:17.460
make any sense to me so yep yep absolutely all

00:57:17.460 –> 00:57:19.659
right folks we’re gonna send it to a quick ad

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00:57:23.360 –> 00:57:26.139
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00:57:26.139 –> 00:57:34.880
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explosions. Yeah, I’m pretty sure you could have

01:01:57.420 –> 01:01:59.219
got the point across with sound effects, not

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the real thing. Car, car. Download this show

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on iTunes or at simplisticreviews .blogspot .com.

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I’m sure your insurance company will cover that.

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No, they won’t. No, they probably won’t. We got

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him. Now back to the show. All right, folks.

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We are back here inside the pull bag. This is

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episode 586. We are so close to 600. Kind of,

01:02:22.820 –> 01:02:26.619
sort of. Not really, but almost. All right, Jesse.

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Promote yourself, sir. What kind of podcasts

01:02:29.880 –> 01:02:33.980
are you doing these days? Transforming them wires

01:02:33.980 –> 01:02:37.800
or something? I’ve got another comic review over

01:02:37.800 –> 01:02:42.340
at anothercomicreview .com. We have Transformers

01:02:42.340 –> 01:02:44.699
number 32 of the Energon universe coming out

01:02:44.699 –> 01:02:47.619
actually tomorrow as of this recording. So looking

01:02:47.619 –> 01:02:50.679
forward to that. We’re heading back to Cybertron.

01:02:51.900 –> 01:02:55.039
Some of it has already been leaked online. I’ve

01:02:55.039 –> 01:02:58.659
looked at that. So, yeah, I’m looking forward

01:02:58.659 –> 01:03:00.860
to seeing what’s in store for the rest of the

01:03:00.860 –> 01:03:06.130
issue. I love how he hesitates. I’m not making

01:03:06.130 –> 01:03:08.730
fun of your stutter or anything, but I love the

01:03:08.730 –> 01:03:12.650
hesitation of, I’m kind of looking forward. Maybe,

01:03:12.829 –> 01:03:15.769
I don’t know. I mean, in what I’ve seen that’s

01:03:15.769 –> 01:03:17.969
been leaked so far, the art’s already hit or

01:03:17.969 –> 01:03:20.429
miss for me, so I knew that was going to be the

01:03:20.429 –> 01:03:23.809
case. Oh, no. It’s like, well, am I really looking

01:03:23.809 –> 01:03:28.079
forward to it? I don’t know. We’ll see. You can

01:03:28.079 –> 01:03:30.480
also find me on YouTube. I’m at youtube .com

01:03:30.480 –> 01:03:34.199
slash matrix underscore prime. Yeah, there you

01:03:34.199 –> 01:03:38.440
go, folks. All right. This has been episode 586,

01:03:38.519 –> 01:03:41.400
and you’ll hear all that stuff in the past, folks,

01:03:41.480 –> 01:03:43.039
since I don’t know when this episode’s coming

01:03:43.039 –> 01:03:46.579
out, because I still have to finish editing episode

01:03:46.579 –> 01:03:49.159
581. Tomorrow. It’s coming out tomorrow, right?

01:03:49.340 –> 01:03:53.780
Well, this episode? Yeah. No. This episode’s

01:03:53.780 –> 01:03:56.400
not coming out tomorrow. This episode’s coming

01:03:56.400 –> 01:04:02.099
out in the far -flung future of 2016, or maybe

01:04:02.099 –> 01:04:05.460
it’ll come out 40 years later, or 40 years in

01:04:05.460 –> 01:04:07.719
the past. Yes, release it on the 80th anniversary,

01:04:07.820 –> 01:04:11.019
like you were mentioning. Yeah, no, no, can’t

01:04:11.019 –> 01:04:14.199
do that. By that time, podcasting will just be

01:04:14.199 –> 01:04:16.880
something that we, you know, have a wire stuck

01:04:16.880 –> 01:04:20.679
in our head like the old PS9 commercial. Does

01:04:20.679 –> 01:04:24.400
anybody remember the PS9 commercial? I do, yes.

01:04:24.599 –> 01:04:27.119
Oh, thank God. Thank God I’m not making that

01:04:27.119 –> 01:04:38.920
up. New for 2078. PlayStation 9’s new electronic

01:04:38.920 –> 01:04:41.179
spores tap straight into your adrenal gland.

01:04:45.619 –> 01:04:51.849
PS9 has improved retinal scanning. A mind control

01:04:51.849 –> 01:04:55.449
system. A holographic movie surround vision.

01:05:01.030 –> 01:05:13.869
And telepathic personal music. The ultimate just

01:05:13.869 –> 01:05:18.550
got better. PlayStation 9. Teleport yours today.

01:05:25.360 –> 01:05:28.760
All right, folks, that’s going to do it for us.

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recording for next time. We head back to DC Comics

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where my buddy Dave McElvenny and I discussed

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the five issue, six issue, I think it’s five.

01:06:41.070 –> 01:06:44.670
We discussed Crypto, the last dog of Krypton.

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For now, I am TF2 and Mike with… Jesse, I think.

01:06:49.230 –> 01:06:51.409
You think? You don’t know? You’re supposed to

01:06:51.409 –> 01:06:54.670
know these things, man. As always, make it your

01:06:54.670 –> 01:06:58.449
greatest game of the comics. I thought the festival

01:06:58.449 –> 01:07:01.789
lasted till sunset. It turned out to be a limited

01:07:01.789 –> 01:07:05.369
engagement. You should have seen it, Dad. A king

01:07:05.369 –> 01:07:07.690
cobra followed this floating flute and scared

01:07:07.690 –> 01:07:10.769
everybody. And Scott climbed a rope that went

01:07:10.769 –> 01:07:13.650
straight up in the air. Wait a minute. Floating

01:07:13.650 –> 01:07:17.219
flutes? Running cobras? Alex. Well, not that

01:07:17.219 –> 01:07:20.539
it makes any sense, but a fakie somehow did the

01:07:20.539 –> 01:07:23.420
genuine Indian rope trick. At the same moment,

01:07:23.579 –> 01:07:26.679
a flute went winging through the air, luring

01:07:26.679 –> 01:07:29.380
a cobra from the festival. Then as soon as the

01:07:29.380 –> 01:07:32.119
cobra left, the rope I was climbing went limp.

01:07:32.460 –> 01:07:35.199
Sometimes the eye does not behold the truth.

01:07:35.420 –> 01:07:38.469
I think I can still catch the curtain call. And

01:07:38.469 –> 01:07:41.269
maybe Mr. Subas can help. You’ve just heard the

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TFG1Mike is a geek with many interests. He has been podcasting for over a decade, and sees no stopping point in sight. From Transformers, He-Man, Batman, Comics, movies, video games, cartoons, and so much more, Mike has a zeal for the things he loves, and he will bring the hammer down on the things that he has a disdain for. He's generally a postive person, but negativity can creep in there. Mike is all about the innuendos and innuendon'ts too. You'll hear him on many of The GCRN podcasts!

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